V3 rules review, first read-through

[@michaelybarbo3182]

Russell, you are exactly right! Warlord missed a big opportunity to address MLRS! At least make them reload and fire every other round! Also minimum range of 12?

[@ijsbeermeneer9952]

Great vid! What would you fellas like to see with the army special rules in the 'armies of' books?

[@boltactiontutorialsbybomor3846]

@@ijsbeermeneer9952 a selection of 3-4 rules per nation that you can choose between

[@kevino1219]

Same. Also thise rules need to be somewhat balanced accriss the spectrum. If detrimental rules are going to be applied they should probably be categorised differently.

[@russellwright6190]

Lots of themed u it choices

[@Flippotycoon4583]

Thank you yes it's driving me crazy people who think the rules in the rulebook will be the same as the armies of rules 😅

[@a-uhuman6483]

(Ali here) I am over half way in and you guys still have not mentioned cover saves amongst the major changes 😮

[@skyekrichel7621]

I Cant wait for V3 ! Just Finished off my US recently. Im Starting a cheeky Brit Tea-Boo army I cant wait to see some faction reviews or know your foes vids 🎉

[@boltactiontutorialsbybomor3846]

lots of data should be comming soon

[@nomisekul4969]

My comet tank rising from the dust in the bottom of my box because the tigers and Panthers are coming

[@WhiskeyjackZA]

I hope TOs don't step in too early and first let the rules play out. What I like about 3.0 is that it opens up the stale and solved 2.0 meta. Lets see creative list building, the meta swing back and forth, players adjust / experiment to lists etc and overall more data / games - before we have content creators, big tournament organisers and other influencers stamp their biases and preferences on the game. I would also like to see Warlord be much more active in assisting this process with some data and balancing... If this game wants to be taken seriously as a competitive game it needs to learn from the big boys and drop a lot of the historical gamer gatekeeping and personalities running the OP and game. Finally list building and balance looks open enough to actually talk about meta and competitive play as in other wargames and TCGs...

[@GatorGamesandBooks]

The game looks a lot like Flames of War

[@astrocat1128]

It looks like they(warlord games) have rushed this out without really asking the BA community and testing then adjusting so I fear this may take a downward turn and might just lose alot of players sadly 😢 also they do not seem to to proof read or edit their books.. too many literal texts and grammatical mistakes.. we pay good money for these mistakes and spelling errors? Quite discouraging and discerning warlord… 😢

[@nehrigen]

US M51's. 24 shots at 48 inches with +1 to pen.😂

[@toniwa3]

So what are now your preferred weapons to kill and to pin?

[@adiebland9220]

Interesting conversation around meta, I don’t have a rule book yet, but I’m expecting to see lots of mortars and indirect fire weapons, less tanks and static infantry units, I think V3 is a backward step

[@merlin4084]

I think indirect is going to be about as useful as it ever was. Since you need a 6 to hit (initially) it's going to take time before they come into play. Especially if they are inexperienced and need line of sight to do anything. I think this is the edition for rapid fire weapons. Since it's easier to hit now (compared to v2) rolling more dice per attack has become far more important. So, there will be some competition between using MMG teams and Mortars now (as in how many of each do you take in a list compared to the other, whichever is more important to you to have).

[@rich_john]

H.E. was a big killer in WW2 and played a big part in combat....whether localised mortars or bigger guns

[@adiebland9220]

@@merlin4084 I 100% agree, but , with a base of 4, makes it 50/50 on the dice role, then to kill a regular, it’s another 50/50, but then he gets a cover save, in the worse case it 32% chance of a save,? That’s well better than version 2, if your infantry teams move your 50/50 dice role drops to a 32% chance of hitting and in this version pins aren’t worth anything. I just think less kills, more dice roles, with a low probability and static battles = a backwards move for the game, and tanks rolling 1 dice (main gun) with at best a 32% chance of hitting, their dead. All this version offers is more command teams, a new squad building matrix and an offer to disgruntled 40K players of a better game. I love bolt action, I’ve bought every book released, spent £100’s on figures of all nations, but this version feels rushed, unplanned, poorly play tested and is only about money for warlord, I would have much preferred rule tweaks, more imagination used for better squads in the campaign books,

[@adiebland9220]

@@rich_john 100% agreed, but how many navel barrages were fired inland? And most rifles would kill you at over a mile, how many bushes would it take to stop a 303 round, I just feel they’ve tipped the balance of the “Game”, which is a real shame, because V2 was a very good game, which only needed a couple of minor tweaks.

[@merlin4084]

@@adiebland9220 I can tell you that the game feels way more killy than v2, so I wouldn't be that worried in that regard. I haven't got v3, but I played some of the rules Warlord previewed and others leaked and the shooting was much better. Cover saves are actually quite a fickle mechanic. It feels like it'll be better for you, but in practice it all comes down to the random dice results that can go for or against you. For example, in that game I used an inexperienced MMG team, hitting on 5+, in turn 2 and wiped out a Mortar team on the other side of the table that had a 4+ cover save. They all failed that save. In v2 this would never have happened as 1) no MMG team would be taken and 2) even if it had it would have been 7s to hit. The rest of the game it managed 2 more kills and some pins, before being wiped out itself in turn 6. Yes, the changes to shooting have put Bolt Action two more steps closer to being 40k, but looking at it and playing that game, I feel it was probably the best way to deal with some units just being unusable. Inexperienced units would still be worthless if the game still had all of the negatives to hit in v2 and no cover save mechanic. Now they can actually be quite useful.

[@sojourner3671]

Can you clarify the statement about what units a spotter can spot for. In the V3 rule book on Page 102 in the spotter info box text, it says that a spotter can spot for any indirect fire unit that is Reg or Vet. That seems pretty clear, as well as terrifying to me. Yet Russel stated that it will be addressed in a FAQ. Is that a FAQ for WoW? or will it be a Warlord FAQ. Thanks Bo

[@boltactiontutorialsbybomor3846]

Russell was answering for the WoW tournament, personally I also think that that is the way the rules were intended😅

[@janne3013]

In the end what was the light weapon that might be popular? I listened that part 5 times but still couldnt figure it out.

[@boltactiontutorialsbybomor3846]

@@janne3013 light autocannons

[@toniwa3]

Is the go to point limit still 1000 pts?

[@RIGHTTitan]

They have said in their warlord community articles that they've balanced the game around 1250. But recently they have said that it plays well at least down to 750 and up to 1500. They specifically mentioned 1000 and 1100 as other totally viable point levels to play at.

[@deccabw]

Have you seen the minor powers Pdfs 🤔

[@boltactiontutorialsbybomor3846]

@@deccabw not yet, no

[@deccabw]

The free stuff the minor power received did help balance out there lack access to powerful units and options ,will be interesting to see what the new National rules will be.

[@ShinJabba]

This has nothing to do with bolt action. Why even post this video for.

[@boltactiontutorialsbybomor3846]

what are you talking about? this is about Bolt Action version 3