V8 v.s. 4 Cylinder LandCruiser Dyno Tuning shootout! New 79 Series compared towing & offroad

[@mightycarmods]

Solid video as always. Good to see some dyno numbers. Let us know if you need any tips with your 4x4

[@PaddyBoy644]

About time the best 4WD channel on KZbin gave a hand to some of the smaller channels! 😂

[@Jacobtheunwise]

You guys need to do a build or Collab!

[@maxlunedei4976]

😂

[@Sean-sn6gn]

Collab please! 🙏🏻

[@sh8kes]

😂😅

[@CarExpertAus]

For those wondering - a standard magic cup (3/4, strong latte) can fit in the cup holder, slightly propped up by a standard sized house key.

[@doscwolny2221]

That's all that matters these days.

[@yuvrajsinghloch777]

😂

[@Your-girl_Bonnie5]

Legend thanks

[@basedchristianhistory3443]

"An expensive uncomfortable hilux." Cracked me up. Nice call

[@robguz1007]

gcm 7t not a hilux at all

[@ninjadragonblade]

well its true. why continue the landcruiser as a 4 cyl. if the hilux is basically the same motor and driveline and towing capacity

[@MrGundawindy]

When he says the torque figures are exageratted due to the torque converter, he is not describing it accurately. The torque figures at the wheel are accurate and real at the wheels. The torque converter actually does increase the useable torque at the wheels, which is what actually matters. It may give confising results if you're trying to compare flywheel torque by measuring wheel torque, but when you're driving, wheel torque is all that matters.

[@mattcarlyon3334]

Bigger tyres will speed things up more, you’ll go slower downhill on the stock size tyres. ..

[@samartz]

i thought so as well

[@MadRS]

And I don't know why you'd be working the clutch on a down hill decent either. That's the last thing you want to do.

[@Caboosewa]

The script gets messed up here and there on this show, but to be honest if your watching this for the words or advice then heaven help you lol

[@rickasheyelabs5662]

only reason why big tyres speed things up is tread. reality you have less torque. more revs at the tyre and less on the motor overall. stock tyres have less revs and more torque as more revs from the motor. whole reason why people lower gear 4wds to get the torque curve etc better offroad, especially low down on bigger tyres. my point is that yeah bigger tyres will have something better in the end of the rev range going downhill. but getting up and go will suffer with larger tyres and stock gearing.

[@intimatespearfisher]

I think Jocko got a bit dyslexic there for a minute lol

[@DanielB-py1yi]

Well done on comparing 79 vs 79. Everyone else compares 79 vs 76, old V8 vs new 2.8. This is the only video I've seen so far that compared apples with apples of the same spec.

[@bishopcorva]

As someone from the US, I have to say those two trucks look mighty sharp and if I were able, wouldn't mind either one. Though the turbo 4 might be more of the work truck than the weekender for me, but there is something about a nice v8 that gives that ample power without really needing to strain hard that delivers surprisingly excellent mileage.

[@MadRS]

Sorry Jocko but I do have to pull you guys up on something. It's about the down hill decent in a manual. Firstly you should never be using the clutch on a hill decent, Tommy probably just got things confused there. Secondly putting larger tyres on will increase the speed of down hill decents as the rolling diameter is larger thus you will travel a longer distance per revolution of the hub. I'd love to see the 2.8 with an Auto Chiller installed.

[@cyclemoto8744]

I too was confused about their comments at that point of the video. I thought they may have been referring to the auto when stating that 1st gear was too fast and larger tires are better to go slower. I only have 33 on my 76 manual and the ratio is still slower than any vehicle I've owned.

[@KennyHepundjua-ff2fd]

You should never use the clutch on a hill decent? I kinda disagree with you. Depends on the terrain. Perhaps in this experiment the terrain is ideal for not using the clutch

[@English_Speaking_Fox]

A lot of guys are forgetting that the 4-cyl 1GD-FTV 2.8 has been in production since 2015, in numerous vehicles. There are thousands upon thousands of very high mileage 1GD Hilux and Hiace out there in Asia in particular, also Aus. The motor is proven FFS, its not as if this is a new experiment now that its turned up in the Cruiser! Jeez, its even used in the Hino 200 trucks and Coaster buses! All this talk about how the 4-cyl will wear out blah blah, its just baloney. Toyota know what they’re doing, they’re not gonna go and screw the Land Cruiser reputation just for kicks. The V8 is old, inefficient and lazy. Time to move on.

[@harrisr1018]

lol exactly. In the UK all of our hiluxes and land cruisers have used this 2.8 since 2015, never heard anyone complaining about it. It’s nearly 10 years old now.

[@Sisu2280]

People have a sickness for nostalgia. V8 is a dinosaur... A poor one at that.

[@reeltomeal]

I think we all would have liked to have seen the comparison after the tunes, if the customer with the white four cylinder would have been happy to do so; that way you can see the actual real world difference towing that 3.1t caravan. Seeing the torque figures on the V8 against the 4-cylinder would have been great too. I can only imagine that you can certainly tune more out of that beautiful V8! Good review boys.

[@tonycook2347]

100% Jocko, finally someone had the balls to say it.

[@simmo6035]

The Hilux and 79 are very different vehicles with different markets.

[@tonycook2347]

@simmo6035 not any more. Hilux lifted with bash plates and rear locker is ever bit as capable and has all the comfort and style. Same engine now. So I know what I'd spending my money on if it was not a v8. And I love my 76v8

[@mitchell5064]

@@tonycook2347idk why’d you’d still buy a v8 one, literally worse outdated engine

[@tonycook2347]

@mitchell5064 latterly, hey. Righto 👍

[@brandonredding2371]

An auto has a torque converter? Put the 8 on an auto would be the end of this ahahahah

[@Dan-sv7ne]

Jacko has a point the 2.8L Cruiser is an expensive hilux.

[@shanenorwell8580]

With less of everything…why anyone buys a 1979 series is absolutely beyond me.

[@carlmenzel8744]

​@@shanenorwell8580one word (substance )which is what the others don't have is why people buy them.

[@veneratedmortal4369]

​@shanenorwell8580 it was the v8 Ute. Toyota just killed it

[@JimBob-vb8oz]

@@shanenorwell8580 Mining companies use the Cruiser for underground and pit work. Those conditions kill anything else, Hilux included

[@simmo6035]

Mining companies will buy the 2.8 hand over fist.

[@The60Series]

In my opinion no matter what, i would still choose the V8

[@LopezZeta]

Ok why

[@DB-yj3qc]

​@LopezZeta Not working the motor as much. Loss of fuel economy is a bite in wallet, but the motor is likely to last longer. My choice is actually splitting the difference with I-6 N.A motors. A straight 6 is my choice over 4, v6 or v8.

[@hi9580]

@@LopezZetamore better than less, big better than small

[@frothieman4293]

@@LopezZeta no thong slap on the 2.8😂

[@bazzaham8552]

Not anymore

[@mrblondeheart9562]

I (an American) have no way of buying one of these in the states but I love seeing the changes and breakdown of new Toyotas none the less

[@principal7819]

Great video again boys. The thing that you’ve done which others haven’t is comparing a tuned v8 vs a tuned 4cyl. This is the useful comparison

[@lastknownlocation8760]

The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long

[@bigseladventures4640]

Word 👌

[@simmo6035]

Lucky it's only 10% brighter

[@1FiftyOverland]

Engines are just slightly different than candles.

[@o0bananaman0o]

I've seen dozens of N80s and Prados with half a million k's on them, no reason the 70 would be any different

[@Razza2250]

a fair observation, if you were comparing two otherwise identical candles....

[@KennyHepundjua-ff2fd]

Loved your review. Respect from Namibia 🇳🇦. I own a v8 double cab and I love every bit of it

[@Michael-Masi-911]

What did that cost you in your local currency?

[@whiteunicornDR659]

Grew up driving manual v8’s. Reluctantly got an auto 10 years ago…never looked back. Auto boxes are by far better, especially when you know how to use sports mode properly Offroad

[@dennisryan-hm5vg]

Autos better for gays

[@MPin-jh2kj]

@@dennisryan-hm5vg 🤣

[@kgomotsomsiza3364]

​@@dennisryan-hm5vg😂😂😂

[@resistivity08]

Manual good for dinosaurs. New auyos mint

[@philmarriott8084]

Wouldn’t it be interesting to compare V8 and 4 cylinder if they both had automatic gearboxes or both had manual gearboxes? I guess we’ll never know the results of such a comparison… keep up the work Jocko!😊

[@Ckktopa]

Great review, a realistic review of how people use these utes. Much better than the typical Latte reviews

[@tonywilson5295]

Very interesting. Thanks for the content. Love it.... Bought a new 76 in 2015 as my forever. Haven't changed my my mind yet after so many trips + a lap. Chipped and still running original clutch at 215,000kms. Only tow a large boat some times, but she loves it. It's not fast but loves a challenge. Buy a motor cycle if you have a need for speed.

[@dunxy]

My clutch said bye at 115, only exhaust and intake mods,stock fueling and boost! Seen many go much sooner. You sure you didnt get a detune lol?

[@snakeinthegrass7630]

Same here,any problems with injectors yet?

[@tonywilson5295]

@@snakeinthegrass7630 No, none at all. Ive only changed the bushes in the rear springs and repaired a leak in the after market fuel tank. Otherwise just servicing.

[@snakeinthegrass7630]

@@tonywilson5295 Thanks for that.

[@MonsterMick]

I’ve been watching Ronny Dahl compare the two vehicles for the last few months on his vids. The new 2.8 auto is better at almost everything apart from the sound and going down hills. I still think the V8 has an X factor that could get me to choose it though despite the flaws it clearly has.

[@dualcablowlux]

There was a time when the roar of a V8 engine was more than just noise-it was a symphony, a heartbeat, a thrill that coursed through every vein. Every time you turned the key, there was a rush, a deep rumble that seemed to echo through your soul. It wasn't just about speed; it was about freedom, about the open road stretching out before you like an endless promise. But time has a way of changing things, of softening the edges of what once was. The world started talking about efficiency, about the future, and the once-mighty V8 was quietly replaced by something more sensible, more economical-a 4-cylinder that, while reliable, never quite filled the void. At first, it seemed like a wise decision. The fuel gauge moved slower, the emissions were lower, and the world seemed a little more in tune with progress. But as the years slipped by, something else happened. The memories of that V8 started to creep back, not in loud, boisterous ways, but in soft whispers of nostalgia. You'd hear it in the faint rumble of a passing car, or in the way the wind whistled through the trees on a quiet evening. It was there in the smell of gasoline, in the sight of an open road on a summer day. And each time, it tugged at something deep inside, something that the 4-cylinder could never quite touch. The 4-cylinder was practical, yes, but it lacked the soul, the character, the raw, unfiltered joy that the V8 had brought. The memories of that V8 became like snapshots from a childhood long past-moments of pure, unadulterated happiness that could never be recaptured, only remembered. And so, as time went on, you found yourself missing that V8, not just for what it was, but for what it represented-a time when life was simpler, when the world felt bigger, and when every drive was an adventure. It became a bittersweet longing, a reminder that some things, once gone, can never be replaced. The V8 was more than just an engine-it was a piece of your heart, left behind on the open road.

[@motorsportfreak1]

According to Toyota the 2.8 in the 70 has the following upgrades over the Hilux and prado 2.8: Larger radiator Larger fan Isolation crank pulley Water air cooler Larger steel sump compared to smaller alloy sump Redesigned oil pick up for steeper angles Engine Balance shaft Revised fuel filter and oil filter Stronger hoses and clamps for turbo inlet and cooler. Gearbox has a larger capacity steel sump pan compared to small alloy Gearbox has elevated breather with catch can 4.3.1 diff gears Tow/haul mode.

[@mikezog1030]

So really not much except the transmission ratio to account for any performance difference. And that's not that much.

[@motorsportfreak1]

@@mikezog1030I think the balance shaft will make a big difference when working hard. Also the larger capacity steel sumps are good. You don’t want shitty alloy and small oil capacity. Gearbox is beefed up . Also it is running the V8 transfer case, drive shafts and diffs.

[@Michael-Masi-911]

Gimme that auto with the V8 and I'm sold.

[@pierreborg]

I watched this before I bought my 79, and i couldn't help myself and stuck with the v8. Boys will be boys.

[@michaelkeenan6668]

Longevity of the engine would be a consideration for me. What kind of boost pressure are they using, V8 v 4cyl???? Surprised you did not cover this when doing the tune. Is the 4cyl running much higher boost pressure than the V8?

[@Amir-z6v7e]

Fitting bigger tires will increase the downhill speed (one revolution in a bigger wheel is longer than that of a smaller wheel). Also, the manual v8 is far better in terms of engine braking downhill.

[@justinramkhelawan5575]

13:05 fitting larger tires will make 1st low taller and even less engine braking going down hills

[@philg2468]

Great video. I love a manual, so I'll wait for a 2.8L manual on a 70 series - hoping that will become available when Toyota scrap the V8. Reasons: The 2.8 is a simpler motor and easier to work on than the VDJ78 I currently own. And I like the manual when towing and when crawling in 4wd. No auto trans that overheats and you get to pick the gear you need. Great engine braking.

[@whiteunicornDR659]

You obviously haven’t driven an auto in sports mode. You can choose to hold gears and consequently keeps temps down.

[@philg2468]

@@whiteunicornDR659 Yes. Owned a 200series for 7 years. Hated the auto and ATF temps can go very high when towing. Needed it in S4 for the torque converter to stay locked at above 85 kph and then it sat at 2400rpm at 100kph. Thats one reason I'm back in a Troopy.

[@william6815]

Agreed mate I currently have a 2021 hilux n80 manual I absolutely love it good on fuel super reliable when Toyota said they were getting the v8 out of the 79 I thought they give the 2.8L in manual a go really disappointed

[@TwoHemiViewer]

Hmmmmm this is a great video explaining multiple areas of the down and dirty. Well done ✅

[@FuManchu5ltr]

I would absolutely love to see a regular 4WD-24/7 where Marty and Moog join them on a trip. Would be funny as.

[@mickanon5607]

They take the Kei-Tip and get winched through hell and back. That would be amazing.

[@jamesrichardson645]

the best 4wding channel on KZbin wouldn't step down to the level of such plebeians. /S

[@1989cranston]

No fucking way lol. MCM would be selling out if they did that lol.

[@twizelbob]

i will stick with my de-tuned v8.

[@Andrew-hu1bx]

Bhahaha enjoy that useless boat ancho mate 😂

[@growler7771]

Once again proving. Bigger isnt always better. Great job guys

[@Blackbird70707]

Thanks Robert, great comparison as always. Looking at the fuel economy it would be similar to your Ranger towing your van wouldn’t it? So, having the Ranger & the van, would you keep that or swap for the Hiace? For me it seems the better touring option is to tow the van, then drop it off for the more difficult 4WDing and just use the Ranger and a tent? Then tow the van for the moderate stuff?

[@ashleydruce9777]

My RG 2.8 4cyl turbo ,puts out factory 500nm.Thats the sweet spot for towing .The 4 cyclinder landcruser just as good and even better with the water to air cooler,as water has a 100% better heat transfer than air.Landcruser unfortunately over priced ,hence the RG .Quiet powerful ,with a quality catch can from new ,never missed a beat.

[@NoelG-IRE]

V8’s don’t make sense in this day and age, but calling a 2.8 engine little is quite hilarious

[@hiltonavis3795]

Best comparison i have seen on youtube between these two utes

[@bertskidmore5506]

drinking game we all take a swig when they say Clutch!

[@locar12]

Although i enjoyed Ronny Dahl's comparison tests, Jocko's test are more balanced. Apples to apples. Your conclusions are actually on point. It all boils down to personal preference, and not because one is better than the other. Do you have any idea why Toyota did not use the V6 diesel from the 300 in these agricultural workhorses? 🤔

[@dunxy]

Its an oil guzzling nightmare....

[@TasmanianHillBilly]

uhh, bigger tyres does not make the vehicle crawl slower.. 13:15

[@wanderingwinters]

Great video lads! nice to see some honest opinions also Jock's "uncomfortable Hilux" comment is the funniest thing ive heard in a while

[@Beanhunter91]

Something I’d like to hear the Aussie perspective on, in the US the trend is the same. Toyota and all manufacturers are ditching the big naturally aspirated V8s and everything is smaller displacement twin turbo V6 and turbo 4cyl. There’s no doubt they make more power and tow better. But the big concern is longevity. How long will these smaller engines last with much higher compression and cramming a lot of boost through them? We all know the naturally aspirated V8s last a lifetime with minimal maintenance.

[@dunxy]

They don't care as long as most outlive warranty period. Its bs emission's requirements as well, not just the manufacturers fault. The old 4.2 six was better again, but emission's killed it...

[@Beanhunter91]

@@dunxy You’re right for sure. Emissions are supposedly why we don’t have any small diesel options in the states. I think in a decade, the V8s will be very sorely missed when everyone realizes it’s a maintenance nightmare to keep a twin turbo V6 on the road after a couple hundred thousand miles.

[@jasonhenderson8604]

The Toyota 70 series V8 in Australia is turbo charged

[@Beanhunter91]

@@jasonhenderson8604 Yes, but surely much less compression and boost under normal ops than the newer engines, no?

[@christopherharris6005]

Awesome video as always Jocko. My choice is the V8 with a manual transmission their becoming a rare breed.

[@Andrew-hu1bx]

😂😂😂😂 a rare breed!!! It is the most common car in Australia

[@Andrew-hu1bx]

I honestly love it when a V8 landcruiser driver tells themselves stupid shit to make them feel like they have a special car hahaha when really they have the most useless 4x4 money can buy. Go lift another wheel champion 🇦🇺

[@australia-ukraine]

I've tested both vehicles and read extensively on the topic. With an engineering degree, practical skills, and over 10 years of professional driving experience, my choice was the V8. The V8 is designed for enthusiasts and pro who prioritise performance. It's suited for those who appreciate the nuances of manual driving, including gear shifting and clutch usage, rather than just comfort. If comfort and ease of use are your main criteria, perhaps a Hilux would be more suitable. For those seeking a durable, reliable off-road vehicle, the V8 is unmatched. Do you need more power and torque? It's as easy as $1.5-2k and you get almost doubled over 4 cyl. As for the popularity of the 2.8, I'm puzzled.

[@dr3zy]

i love my n80. as a trade vehicle its perfect around town and on the long jobs the comfort is great. id still love a v8 79 though

[@Jussttbaked420]

I just wanna know how much psi they running in the 2.8 for that power

[@sheraansadik4689]

It’s close to 30psi

[@philg2468]

Yeah stock V8 gets up to around 8 psi.

[@PowermanZAR]

The later model Toyota 1-HDFTE 24 Valve 4.2 Diesel Turbo Diesel Automatic is always the best engine, no arguments, espcially on my 105 chassis /100 VX landcruiser Hybrid ultimate offroad Beast

[@morepawstravels]

a lot of people here saying "it's just an expensive Hilux". And that may even be partially true. If all we're looking at is the 79 series. But the 2.8L/auto also comes in the 76 series (an "expensive Prado/Fortuner"? perhaps). Oh and the 2.8L/auto also comes in the Troopy... which is obviously just an expensive... ummmm... (hmmmm something unique and something I want myself) I think the purpose of this vid was to compare the engines/gearboxes. Not the fact that they were both utes.

[@Horuss12]

4:34 shots fired 😂 great vid guys.

[@deanosslewis]

Toyota should have just stuck with the 4.2 straight six

[@fredio54]

I love ours. 100 FTW on road.

[@deanosslewis]

@@fredio54 great things.

[@4funnw]

Nicely done. 2.8 for me, better value for money

[@miguelfelipegomezdasilva2997]

Toyota Motor Corperacion Should Release the Land Cruiser 70, its Manual version With the 2.8 Liter 6 speed like the Hilux and that's it 🦾🛻🚙 and they should also release a new 6 Cylinder Diesel engine in line like the 4.2 1hz With the technology of the 2.8 1gd and that's it, I hope they do it in 6 cylinders in line and 6 speed manual 🙏🏼🦾🛻🚙💯 Greetings from Venezuela 🇻🇪 for Friends Jocko and Shaun 🇦🇺

[@dancartwright4808]

What were the torque numbers for the two post tune????? Missed a huge difference here

[@1989cranston]

100%. That v8 tune is dog shit aswell.

[@AidenHannigan-fk2pl]

Mine option strap 2 of those straight 4s together you got an insane V8

[@Michael-Masi-911]

Just whack a twin turbo setup on the 4.5L V8. It's the turbo doing all the heavy lifting in these 2.8L engines.

[@mikeda3643]

Need the torque figures before and after. HP is great, but torque is king when towing which most of the vehicles will be doing.

[@southerncharity7928]

The before is easily looked up, and the after can be practically anything - depending on how fat your wallet is.

[@mikeda3643]

@@southerncharity7928 Totally, but all they spoke about with the tune was the HP figures. Torque is just if not more important in this instance. So whilst both had similar HP after a tune, i would have expected to see the torque comparison between the 2.8 and V8

[@vanderz1012]

V8 is about 410nm from factory and 2.8 is 500nm. After tuning you can see almost double that figure in the V8 and the 2.8 you'll see about a 20% increase Edit: Double is abit of an exaggeration but you'll see an increase to about 650 to 700 nm of torque in the V8 with a tune

[@mikezog1030]

@@mikeda3643 They did give the torque figures? Look again.

[@trevormutch6098]

is it just me or is the rear suspension a bit too soft for towing the caravan (both vehicles) Jocko... i bet you would love this 2.8 conversion in the pony.

[@R.Sole88109]

Or the tongue weight of the caravan is too much. The axles look a bit far back for my liking.

[@intimatespearfisher]

@@R.Sole88109 Moving the rear axel back on the 79 and air bag helpers would be sweet for big van $$$

[@larsconnors3793]

I love, the love to the Watagans in the video

[@samshepherd26]

I'm still lost, where do I put my pretentious coffee ☕?

[@southerncharity7928]

If you have to ask, you need to stick to your BMW my pretentious friend

[@samartz]

lol is that a Redriven quote?

[@markegan5949]

In the Grenadier

[@rohantherockwiththerocketh7871]

You should do a "Best Towing Vehicle" for heavy caravans and boats!

[@gerardroelands9888]

I tend to agree, the 2.8L Cruiser is an expensive hilux. I just don't know why Toyota didn't put the auto 3.3 V6 in the 70's.

[@matthewbain6707]

To prevent warranty claims on diiffs

[@simmo6035]

Because the V6 would have made it so much more expensive. Toyota know what they are doing. There is a reason they are the biggest car manufacturer. It's very different to a Hilux.

[@keqrou]

Or imagine this, a 4.2 1hz like engine but modernised with higher hp and torque. Those engines are gods gift to the world.

[@harrykourbeis4292]

Emissions requirements​@@keqrou. Same reason the 4.2 was stopped on Patrol

[@keqrou]

@@harrykourbeis4292 still they work around it on every other diesel. As I said it would be a more refined version. A.k.a it would be more modernised with better more precise parts and better emissions. But now that I think about it that is what they do with every engine and then by the end of the process the modernisation ends up making it too complicated and unreliable. In conclusion, toyota needs to pull a Volkswagen

[@radod6147]

this was so far the best comparison of these two cars, thanks guys, if I was buying one of them I get 2.8l because I already have V8 and it will go to grave with me

[@540chevhell9]

Wow these tunes create incredible extra horse power. Amazing.

[@MarkOConnor-w1w]

Regards the tune, no doubt the 4 cylinder is operating at much higher psi. Longevity concern?

[@dunxy]

I hear factory is like 27lb vs around 8lb! These milk bottles will not last.

[@alienfromarea5115]

2lt bi-turbo Ford rangers run like 40psi from factory 😂

[@DaveMcguinness-k8m]

Seeing as there is sweet f all between these and my prado in wait and first gen 2.8 longetivitey isn't bad at all

[@NicholasRourke]

​@@alienfromarea5115 mate i tried to get one tuned. No one will touch it. It's at its limit stock haha

[@jayd3931]

The quote I received for an automatic conversion on a V8 70 series was $32,000.

[@colinhoward74]

Remember one thing , the v8 runs on 0.8 psi boost , the 2.8 gd6 runs at 27psi boost , the stress levels on these motors are very different , remember , you can build a 1000 hp on the rear wheels chevy LS 6 v8 but how long will it last but you can buy a std Chevy LS6 v8 that puts out 289 hp on the rear wheels , the difference is the 1000 hp motor may last 10000 miles before needing a rebuild but proberably a lot sooner , a LS6 stock motor will last a minimum of 300000 miles but as much as 600000 miles in a chev corvette , a sports car that is going to work hard for its money , the gd6 is a lot more like the 1000hp motor than the v8 which I know of examples that have over 1500000 kms on the clock , I have yet to see a gd6 with much more than 450000km on it .

[@veysher3756]

Why did you not show the torque comparison?

[@raffs_adv]

I want to see a wholesale auto’s V8 automatic in the same testing

[@rowinbryers-shelley9722]

I jumped on here to make the same comment. Let's see it boys

[@simmo6035]

Ronny Dahl has already tested his worked V8 against a factory 2.8. 2.8 smashed it. 2.8 used less diesel towing a big van than the V8 used not towing. V8 could only hold 80kph up steep hill. 2.8 held 100 up same hill.

[@sumpjunkie]

That would be really good

[@mickanon5607]

$30,000 buys a LOT of diesel

[@raffs_adv]

@@simmo6035 he didn’t change gear in the manual, and an automatic v8 is a completely different thing., but hey I won’t be buying either.

[@bob8573]

Cmon guys if you are going to tow a decent size van make sure the bloody thing is level you have always said towing requires the damn things are level to be safe that van is fairly front heavy and the front wheels on that dual axle are taking a fair bit of weight as for the rest of it not bad

[@Eddie_-_]

Perfect video. Currently looking at a -22 V8 troopy vs a -23 V4. Both fitted out, the V4 is much cheaper. Can’t make my mind up.

[@moistmycar5224]

Why’d he put the handbrake on? Maybe the new Toyota ones work?

[@dunxy]

Old ones are fine if you have a mechanic (as in not toyota..) who isn't a reet hard...

[@DougieBlue]

I’d want the v8, but I live in the USA and cannot have a diesel v8 Toyota because Toyota is mean it it’s biggest client. My 1gr-Fe 4 runner has 343,000 miles with no problems just maintenance so I cannot really complain. I’m going to buy a v8 Tundra in the next couple of weeks but keep the 2005 4Runner and turn it into a modest weekend overlander for here in North Carolina, thanks for the video it was very informative.

[@PaddyBoy644]

00:01 Yes, there you go I saved you 24 mins! Waiting here for all the Toyota V8 fan boys….😂

[@Ronny_Dahl]

Bit late to the party boys, but better late than never 😉

[@BenSmith-sr9ox]

Except they’ve given more info, and did a comparison stock v stock.

[@scottkann3554]

The real test for the 2.8L is how does it go at 400,000kms?

[@bradyfilm]

What R.P.M. do each make maximum torque?

[@shelbytops]

I sold my 2.8 hilux for the glx 23 V8 much better truck At bit more noise, a lot tuffer, tows easy, slower yes, but at least i dont get the embracing plums of smoke from the DPF every other day Lot easier to mod and customise Better suspension YES! Auto was boring drive Manual keeps you engaged and lets you select the perfect gear when you want it Plus the old low tec V8 is money in the bank as an instant classic man truck for thoughs who are not afrade to drive a machine

[@randalleighty-nine675]

i love hearing the complaints about the gaurds. That system has been in cars since around 2010ish. The tall soft brackets are designed to cushion the initial impact to a pedestrian should they be unfortunate enough to land on the car in the event of an accident.

[@AdamAdam-gd2tv]

Was amazing review well done cheers

[@KevinBirah]

The sound of the V8 always gives me goosebumps especially when the AC is on! Orgasmic

[@sumpjunkie]

Great testing , best so far A few questions 1.Where does tuning leave the oem warranty 2.Does it still meet emissions, i would of thought this would be regarded as tampering as you are changing the calibration from the OEM 3. Wouldn't you look at increasing the line pressure in the auto to help cope with the additional power

[@dunxy]

no 2, lol whut? Why would one GAF? You a greenie ffs? buy a cybertruck...

[@CurlyHeadedFark]

If towing at what point to do you get a v6 ranger over a cruiser now? Be interesting to see the comparison. I’d still feel sick parting with near 100k for a 30 year old dual cab with speakers and an interior from the same era

[@parthnair959]

Never. The VW Turbo diesel V6 unreliable as hell.

[@trublu4416]

Great video but it confirms and strengthens the case for the Y62.

[@antonhuman8446]

Thanks for the video. The four is a good engine. Although. One would need two of those screaming four cylinder jobs on each wheel to equal a V8. The reverse side of the coin is 3 - 4 litres of fuel better off per 100km. Also. Where the going gets tough. A manual are oceans ahead in reliability. Each one has their own application.

[@Tk-ou9ec]

I read that the 4 bangers get around 14 litres per 100 kilometres! So still quite thirsty. I wonder how thirsty the V8 model is?

[@jek4311]

I can comment re 2024 V8 78 series. Was about 11L/100km on the highway drive home from the dealer. Sits just over 12 now with bar, spots, roof platform and some awnings up there plus weight from drawers in the back. Just over 13 pretty loaded up (and roof space utilised) for a 2 week road trip.

[@jonah3543]

Love the video, car you guys do a full compassion of the Ute based SUVs next. You guys started one last year but never finished it😢. Love your opinion more than anyone else’s, literally watched a fortune vs MUX video today and they never even put in 4WD.

[@cameronwallis7024]

Ol mate with the hat is an “Auto Queen”. I do respect the comfort of an auto though.

[@fitzyholden1036]

Guessing that as in the past, the V8 will still be the longer lived unit. So more for longer with regular maintenance. Or maybe the rules have changed. Only time will tell.

[@jamberoobigsplah924]

I feel like people are always trying to make excuses as to why the v8 is better. The v8 made more horsepower after the tune but still less than the 4

[@SuperchargedSupercharged]

V8 will live longer.

[@JF-di1nr]

based on?

[@bradcozens]

​@@JF-di1nrmore capacity so less stress when tuned up ,these guys are paid to promote the new cruiser. Fully decked out 79 heavy beast and a highly strung 4 pot under serious load is asking for unreliability

[@Luke-rt9gy]

lol no @@SuperchargedSupercharged

[@Bigsoot7393]

​@@bradcozensa 308 Holden engine isn't more reliable or more powerful than a Nissan rb30 so that's a lie

[@johnboudreau5135]

I would like to see the results of longevity of the 4 cylinder over the 8. A little less in performance but my guess would be the 8 cylinder out lives the 4 by a long shot.

[@subtleinfluence9478]

Should’ve just reuploaded Ronny Dahl’s video.

[@sumpjunkie]

I disagree, Ronny' s was really good however this data was exceptional for non OEM testing

[@DkBu-zy6ui]

Jocko - bigger tires will not help gears that are too tall. If you need a lot of clutch because you are struggling for torque you need smaller tires or shorter gears (or more power). Taller tires will have that clutch working even harder buddy!

[@williamswilliams4355]

Im surprised be the numbers on the v8 most tuned v8s i thought come in anout 180kw 600nm this video's conciderably less??

[@markhowells13]

Does the 79 hill decent not touch the break ? in most cars its auto braking ? which if you in the VHC and want to use it , means you will burn the brakes out on 1 days trip

[@chriskendall473]

we got a fleet of these in the US at a underground Trona mine.. ours have a 2.8 l Cummins "diesel" with a 5 speed .. so far so good. Our Ram fleet made its "some of them" 180k + miles with the regular wear and failures. be interesting how the toyota's do compared...

[@Sparky_D]

At the end of the video you guys forgot to mention how awesome that V8 sounds with a high flow exhaust. The 4 cylinder will never match that.

[@audoinxr6372]

Using the terms "bang for buck" when describing 100k farm hacks with 200hp is hilarious

[@grantkerr2971]

First time I’ve heard a complaint the gearing is too tall in low range 1st gear for the V8 and had too over work the clutch? I think it was driver not familiar enough to trust it. And bigger tyres would make it worse not better lads. The 2.8 if you want to drive it stock. (That’s me) Turning that up higher than factory is asking for trouble . The V8 if you don’t mind paying + 6k to Toyota and another 10k+ to the aftermarket for clutch, exhaust and tunes.

[@marktonner9713]

They should keep both the v8 & 4cyl. Different models for different uses. What I would like to see is Toyota put a solid axle front-end back in the hilux, coil sprung all round this time, make it a specialized 4x4 model(get rid of the rogue/rugged), keep the ifs model for those who use it more on road.

[@alisonphilp7497]

200 series over the 79 there epic but for this day and age to old school on the inside

[@Silvos29]

The 2.8 land cruiser runs hot when towing and sand driving. Each cylinder working double the rate to put out the same power as the V8