I love how our Hindu community is willing to debate discuss and deduce unlike some others who cry sar-tan-se-juda if you quote their "holy" books.
@Rohan1222 жыл бұрын
That's because we have democracy, otherwise you are also the same
@chitrasingh92342 жыл бұрын
@@Rohan122 no
@saloni22442 жыл бұрын
Coz hindu dharm is dharm and their mazhab is dirt also bhagwan Shree Ram Shree krishna are greatest not their Ola
@Rohan1222 жыл бұрын
@@saloni2244 you have no idea all religions are like that only
@sk....30492 жыл бұрын
Hindus ( brahman) are not debating wo bus sc st OBC kissan females ki awareness se ghabraye gye h 😝
@bvishwas992 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that Lallantop never invited Nupur Sharma to justify her side..
@gaurav82672 жыл бұрын
Lallantop is hypocrite channel, funded by mission@ries also.
@jitendraprasad9872 жыл бұрын
100% right
@austin4265122 жыл бұрын
Had they invited, she would have her sar tan se juda done at that time
@VirendraSingh-ry6jn2 жыл бұрын
Lallan top apane aap mein desh virodhi gatividhion mein naitikroop se lipt hai .
@2020soumya2 жыл бұрын
Why would they call her?? Was the allegation brought against her ?? Had it been so,they would have called her ...
@Butunmallick78512 жыл бұрын
This is why every hindu family has d responsibility to teach such epics with context to their child,so that they don't get manipulated by such teachers
@gaurav51612 жыл бұрын
Or teach sanskrit! Because even doing that will be enough to see through the lies that media feeds us.
@kalyanchanda51892 жыл бұрын
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@nawalkishorkayal73282 жыл бұрын
Communist arein full control of upsc exam
@VanaraVegeta2 жыл бұрын
Also check out *SANATAN SAMIKSHA* KZbin channel for archeological & literary evidences of SANATAN/HINDU Dharma.
@Butunmallick78512 жыл бұрын
@@gaurav5161 may be ,but spoon feeding is needed very much ,as most doesn't prefer reading books
@devendrasinghyadav2564 Жыл бұрын
रामायण में उत्तरकांड बाद में जोड़ा गया है आपकी ये बात सही है परंतु बाद में आप शबुक वध को सही ठहराती है। आप स्वयं मतीभ्रम का शिकार है।
@lolitaloke674110 ай бұрын
You are absolutly right
@धनञ्जयकुलकर्णी Жыл бұрын
To be able to read a scripture is one thing, to understand it is another thing and to explain it in a simple way is a completely different skill. Thank you.
@iXpress2 жыл бұрын
Shri Ram ji is called Siya Pati Ramchandra. Literally recognition as Husband of Sita ji & this is beyond any feminist understanding.
@manav44672 жыл бұрын
Just like radha krishna
@manav44672 жыл бұрын
लेकिन पत्नी तो नहीं थी राधा वह तो प्रेमिका थी जिसको कृष्ण छोड़कर चला गया था।
@TheEnglishator2 жыл бұрын
Now caste is birth based! You say Shravan Kumar was the son of a shudra woman hence he was a shudra!!! So now it's caste based now it's profession based...? You liars have no shame in trying to propagating your clout through lies deceit and debauchery ...your hinduism is just that...shame on you and your religion...!
@sachinpotdar77982 жыл бұрын
@@manav4467 abe Mandh buddhi Radha toh shri krishna ki haladini shakti hain koi khudse alag ho skta hain kya radha krishna ek hain Aur khud brahmaji ne shaadi karai thee unki Golok main wo saath hi rehte hain
@RaviTiwari-7772 жыл бұрын
Wo Shree Pati hi hain bhai.. Sriman Narayan hain...
@peacefoolcommunityexposed2 жыл бұрын
Hey Buddy can you make podcasts about the following Indian Kingdoms: 1. Vijayanagara Empire 2. Sathavahana Dynasty 3. Chola Dynasty 4. Sikh Empire 5. Gupta Empire 6. Mauryan Empire 7. Ahoms 8. Rajputs 9. Kalinga Empire 10. Chalukyas 11. Rastrakutas 12. Marathas
@aefwon39362 жыл бұрын
Kakatiyas? to whom the Kohinoor diamond belongs to?
@bharat91452 жыл бұрын
Recommend subject matter expert(SME) for above topics, so he can invite them, just suggesting topics is not helpful
@kalyanchanda51892 жыл бұрын
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@gg_fireland2162 жыл бұрын
Where is Pala ?
@intense102 жыл бұрын
@vikki See Saheb on Prachyan
@NeenaDubey2 жыл бұрын
This Lady is amazing, thank you for this episode. So many myths have been cleared. This talk should go viral.
@kalyanchanda51892 жыл бұрын
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@abhaybhadouriya10292 жыл бұрын
एवमुक्तो हनुमता रामो धर्मभृतां वरः | अगच्छत्सहसा ध्यानमासीद्बाष्पपरिप्लुतः || ६-११४-५ Hearing Hanuma’s words, Rama who was the foremost among the supporters of righteousness, lord rama was a little over whelmed with tears and suddenly became a bit thoughtful. Yuddha Kāṇḍa ~ Sarga 114 of 128, SHLOKA 5 Vālmīki Rāmāyaṇa
@DoodlePoodleLol2 жыл бұрын
What exactly according to you has justified what has been written in the epics, can you summarise briefly?
@preetamyadav79522 жыл бұрын
See by yourself . It is worth it . You will learn many new thing .
@TheEnglishator2 жыл бұрын
Now caste is birth based! You say Shravan Kumar was the son of a shudra woman hence he was a shudra!!! So now it's caste based now it's profession based...? You liars have no shame in trying to extend your clout through lies deceit and debauchery ...your hinduism is just that...shame on you and your religion...!
@AjayPandey-ft2mu Жыл бұрын
It is really delightful to know that we have such intellectuals like Ami Ganatra who understands our culture so well.
@SandeepYadav-gx3nj Жыл бұрын
कितनी gndgi फैलाई है धूर्त ब्राह्मणों ने..सनातन धर्म के असली दुश्मन तो खुद ब्राह्मण पंडे ही है ..ऐसे धूर्त ब्राह्मणों और पुजारियों का वध करना भी धर्म सम्मत है।ved और bhagvat geeta में ऐसे ब्राह्मणों का वध करने का आदेश देते है जो समाज में नकली देवी देवता बना कर लोगो को ठगते है ..सनातन धर्म का कोड है कपटी पंडे
@davethanky500 Жыл бұрын
With all Respect I would like to mention some grave Errors here. Satyavan And Satyavati : It is Satyavan and Savitri story , where Savitri went to Yama Loka and brought her husband Satyavan back to the Earth. Satyavati was Bhihma's Step Mother who married Maha Raja Shantanu after Bhishma's Pledge of never getting married 😢 there are 800 plus comments in the Praise of this Episode, none found this .Very Disappointing 😞
@vedicsunny Жыл бұрын
Wonderful discussion... शुभानि वर्धन्ताम्
@soumyadeepghosh33342 жыл бұрын
Vikas taking about lord Ram is same as Rahul Gandhi talking about savarkar.
@sheksharma72492 жыл бұрын
Chutiye kya yogdaan tha savarkar ka azadi ki ladai mein?? Maafiname likhne mein kaunsi azadi mili narangi khatmal? Kis angrez ko mara वीर्य सावरकर ने 🤣
@malayaranjansahu76502 жыл бұрын
chal be.... pura video dekha h ya clip dekh kar bol rha h bsdk gawar salee bangali bidi
@pratyushvaibhav32102 жыл бұрын
Vikas Divyakriti was not talking about Ramayan. He was discussing a question where the question was somewhat on the line of feminist/modernist critic of Tulsidas. He in the end concludes that no Tulsidas was not a patriarchal poet rather he was very progressive. We should know our Dharmagrantha but also try to explore what the context is. I am a devout Hindu. Ami Ganatra has correct interpretation of Valmiki Ramayana and she explains it eloquently, but what Vikas ji was doing was comparing poets of different ages and their writing style and interpretation and not commenting on lord Rama.
@rishavgupta29392 жыл бұрын
IF RAHUL GANDHI IS Politician then Vikas Divya kirti is The Spiritual Teacher
@gautamkv91752 жыл бұрын
@@rishavgupta2939 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@AnujKumar-in6ci2 жыл бұрын
Bhai why don't invite Vikas Sir , Ami for a Live debate on these issues... i hope Vikas sir will accepts it (if has guts)??
@आदित्यराय-त8थ2 жыл бұрын
भाई वो नहीं आएंगे
@OrionGamingg2 жыл бұрын
नहीं आएंगे भाई हिंदू को हिंदू में लाडवा दिए अब क्या आएंगे
@AnujKumar-in6ci2 жыл бұрын
@@OrionGamingg Yahi to Problem hai na bhai.. khudne koi kaand kiya aur khud hi usko justify karke aa gaye... Counter Argument and Multiple opinions ka to chance hi nahi mila...
@sarojkumaryadav45502 жыл бұрын
Surely bulaya jana chahiye
@2020soumya2 жыл бұрын
I think he would come, provided ,People like Ami Ganatra should also have that unbiased state of mind to listen to challenging and unpalatable views on hindu scriptures...
@rkahr27212 жыл бұрын
किसी की तपस्या से कोई दूसरा मर जाता है आज नई जानकारी मिली
@ravi-642 жыл бұрын
Uttarakhand nat part of ramayan
@prachisinghal2468 Жыл бұрын
Ami Ganatra ma'am you are amazing ❤❤❤❤ इतनी ज्ञान की बातें, हमारे पुराणों का इतना सुंदर विश्लेषण सुन कर मन आनंदित हो गया। आपको अनेकों धन्यवाद ❤
@ItuytTyf9 ай бұрын
Aj se gay ka mutr aur gobar khana suru kar do aur Anand say ga
@anityakumarjena2 жыл бұрын
Kitna rich hai hamara Sanatan Dharm. Goosebumps aa gaya. Jai Shreeram!
@pranavpathak54372 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video Vikas Divyakirti sir and their students MUST see this video. Sirf book ke pages utha kar kuch bhi bolne se tarkik nahi ban jaate
@brb5744 Жыл бұрын
Yes you are right sirf yt videos dekke vayakti tarkik bante hain😊
@rahulparewa6535 Жыл бұрын
Everyone knw what is reality
@umesh61432 жыл бұрын
Ami Ji, hope you read this comment! You are the best thing that has happened for our granths at least in this decade! ❤
@subhmaypatra55622 жыл бұрын
True
@ronakpatel69232 жыл бұрын
Explore more
@abhishek2026 Жыл бұрын
Bhai tu bhi padh tu bhi best banega.
@Sunny12-232 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing Ami to give us clarity on our itihasa.
@arman41102 жыл бұрын
विकाश सर का कोई धार्मिक प्रवचन नही था न वो कभी देते है बस वो अंतर बता रहे थे की स्त्री को लेकर दो अलग अलग लेखकों में कितना अंतर है और किस तरह एक ही राम और सीता के लिए कितना अलग अलग विचार है वो संदर्भ लेखकों के लिए था न की राम और सीता के लिए
@rdschauhan48692 жыл бұрын
Bhai .. finally कोई तो सही बोल रहा है। Keep it up Brother.🫂👍🏻 🇮🇳🇮🇳💯😇🔱😊🇮🇳🇮🇳
@abhipandey8427 ай бұрын
Haa Bhai but ye log to pata ni ulta hi bol rhe hai ab inko kon smjhay
@Goslow30372 жыл бұрын
So many topics you guys covered..some of. which i didn't hear as if now. Thank you for enlightenment !!
@peacefoolcommunityexposed2 жыл бұрын
Hey Buddy, can you bring Retrired IAS officer Sanjay Dixit Ji to your podcast. He is 1 of the few Indians who does a Perfect analysis of current Events related to the India. And surprisingly, he also has Answer to every Question related to India and its History. His Expertise lies in Indian History, Partition of India, National Integrity and islamic invasions. Thanks!
@saurabh64532 жыл бұрын
उनके चैनल पे थोड़ा कंटेंट है क्या ?😀
@definitelynotsatyam2 жыл бұрын
Ghamand bahut hai usme, humesha lagta hai jalan se bhara hua hai
@zalachhatrapalsinh2 жыл бұрын
@@saurabh6453 yes he is too busy man.
@piyushsonone72 жыл бұрын
@@saurabh6453 😂
@TommyJefferson18012 жыл бұрын
@@saurabh6453 He does God Analysis check it
@RameshChandra-sb5dh2 жыл бұрын
Very very very vivid & logical explanations of the situations of the past as mentioned in Valmiki Ramayana & Mahabharat by Amiji. Thanks alot to enlighten the interested persons on the subject and the whole controversy that started after showing limited clip of Vikas Divya kirtiji's teaching class on a particular question on Tulsidasjii must be supplemented with such type of videos.
@kishanagrawal54882 жыл бұрын
To you sir and to Ami ma'am from all true Indians, a heartfelt thankyou. Thanx a lot for bringing up such hidden treasures from inside our Dharma. Glad such podcasts are being conducted and intellectuals are sharing their knowledge. Keep up this fantastic work and send our best wishes to ma'am as well, if possible 🙏
@sciencevsyog4984 Жыл бұрын
सत्यवती ने नहीं सावित्री ने सत्यवान का वरण किया था। बस इतनी सी गलती हुई है अन्यथा संवाद बहुत ही सुंदर है।
@pkumar-gh8vy9 ай бұрын
जिस पर मुझे प्रगाढ़ प्रेम है, उसे सिर्फ इसलिये दुःख या कष्ट देना या उसके चरित्र पर शंका करने का स्वांग भी करना एक घटिया मानसिकता का द्योतक है.
@5amyak2 жыл бұрын
Always a delight to listen to AmiJi. Thank you Arihant for making this accessible.
@kalyanchanda51892 жыл бұрын
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@MrPawan3152 жыл бұрын
Kabhi gaur kiye ho... Ye didi... Aaj kal kuch months se youTube pe har jagah dikh rahi hain... Jab ki ye kayi salo se youTube pe video banati rahi hain.
@आदित्यराय-त8थ2 жыл бұрын
@@MrPawan315 बतुम्हारी ये दीदी आज कल दिख रही है क्युकी लोग इनको सुनना पसंद कर रहे हैँ और हाँ तुम्हारी दीदी करोड़ो का साम्राज्य सपने बेच कर नहीं बना रही 😂
@MrPawan3152 жыл бұрын
@@आदित्यराय-त8थ haan... Social media me kaise log ekdam se har jagah chhane lagte hain... Baad me pata chalne lagta hai.. 😀😀😀 didi ke channel pe ja ke dekhna guru.. Jab se controversial baatein bolne lagi hain tab se famous hone lagi hai... Halaki... Yoga aur medition kr video hi banati thi pahle. But... Tumhe dikhega nahi.
@आदित्यराय-त8थ2 жыл бұрын
@@MrPawan315 बात को समझो बात बस इतनी है की हमें बस इस पर ध्यान देना है की कउन सच बोल रहा है और कौन नहीं ये सच बोल रही हैँ कुछ भी इनका विवादस्पद नहीं है
@TommyJefferson18012 жыл бұрын
Bro can you bring in Rajiv Malhotra Ji to your Podcast. He exposed all the anti-nationals in his book Snakes in Ganga. I think we youngsters need to be aware of this and need to oppose it
@prakharmishra57362 жыл бұрын
अमरीका रहते हैं वो दयालु।।।
@kalyanchanda51892 жыл бұрын
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@आदित्यराय-त8थ2 жыл бұрын
🙏
@neerajkalani32222 жыл бұрын
@@prakharmishra5736 he spends a lot of time in india now. Vaad should reach out to his infinity foundation and align schedules.
मैं ही मुंसिफ, मैं ही गवाह, मैं ही कातिल, मैं ही जज, मैं ही वकील। फैसला हो गया
@4541518 Жыл бұрын
Kehna kya chah rahe ho bhai?
@UTSGAMERLIVE Жыл бұрын
You are a yadav of kansha Dynasty
@neerajahirwar905610 ай бұрын
@@4541518चोटी वाले समझ गए होंगे।😂
@santsawnt10 ай бұрын
यही दीव्यज्ञान, दीव्यकीर्ती को दे
@zelontusk2 жыл бұрын
This podcast was really mind-blowing 🤯
@praveendubey10582 жыл бұрын
Knowledge level of this lady is amazing.Excellent💝
@KK-Opinion2 жыл бұрын
दिव्यकीर्ति यह मानते है कि उन्होंने ग्रंथ नहीं पढ़े फिर उनसे धार्मिक और आध्यात्मिक विषयों पर उनकी टिप्पणीयों को , उनके विचारों को तरजीह देना तर्क संगत नहीं है। इन विवादों का लाभ यह जरूर होता है कि इस बहाने बहुत से लोग ग्रंथ पढ़ने लग जाते है।
@sharadgautam935410 ай бұрын
Par jo bhi kaha hai vikas sir ne pure proof ke sath kahte hai
@KK-Opinion10 ай бұрын
@@sharadgautam9354 द्वैतात्मक तथ्य
@sharadgautam935410 ай бұрын
@@KK-Opinion aap proof karo ki vikas sir galat hai
@KK-Opinion10 ай бұрын
@@sharadgautam9354 हमारी जिंदगी दूसरों को ही सही और गलत साबित करने में बरबाद हो जाती हैं, जबकि हम खुद कूपमंडूक बने घूम रहें हैं
@AmitSingh-pm7sg2 жыл бұрын
Divya Kirti Sir ek smart teacher hai,jo apne Left minded students ko satisfied karte hai aur saath hi Right minded students ke saath balance karte hue aisa act karte hai. Kitne aaye aur Kitne is duniya se chale gye pr Ramayana aur Shri Ram ko is desh ke janmamas se kabhi alag nahi kr sake. Madam jitni khoobsoorat hai equally intelligent bhi hai. Aapki knowledge ko pranam.
@kaustavghosh65002 жыл бұрын
300 versions of ramayana exists... how do u know which one is exact? How do u know which arguement is right? How do u know ur right? how do u know if she or he is right or wrong?... until n unless they both argue u don't know... and both of them are knowledgable.
@proudly123 Жыл бұрын
Thank you ma'am for explaining this.. Some pseudo intellectuals are unnecessarily blaming our culture, religion and scriptures for any wrong deeds.. Albeit they can't dare to say against one peaceful religion..
@pallavisingh35822 жыл бұрын
Thank God you clarified...I was so disappointed that god himself had said words like this..then how can we blame people for such kind of mindset...but as you clarified the context on which shri ram said what he said...i m very thankful to you
@waghsvlogs53652 жыл бұрын
बाबा साहब आंबेडकर जी कहते है जब पढ़ा लिखा समाज भी गलत और अन्याय का समर्थन करने लगे तो वो सबसे बड़ी विडंबना है🙏🏻
@Ashutosh58972 жыл бұрын
Vo anti hindu tha
@VinodSharma-vb9hu2 жыл бұрын
Kon tha baba ambedkar
@Ashutosh58972 жыл бұрын
@@VinodSharma-vb9hu Politicians who uses social issues to divide Hindus
@SsCgLove2 жыл бұрын
Aa gye baba saheb ko leke... Hadd h hr jagah baba saheb ko ghusa dena jruri h baba saheb to ye bhi kahte the ki padhai likhai kro to kro yha bakchodi kyu chhap rhe baba saheb ke nam pr
@ramjangid57072 жыл бұрын
baba saheb ko pdh lena Ye har jgh shudra ko lana unke sath Shri ram ne anyay kiya hai ye sb aapke baba saheb ka hi Kamal hai Unki books pdh lena usme ye point mil jayenge
@ShubhamPandey-jk9gw2 жыл бұрын
Ami maam is a chad sanatani sukanya ! Hope we have more ladies like her.
@TommyJefferson18012 жыл бұрын
Bro can you bring in Palki Sharma Upadhyay to your podcast. She used to do the Prime Time in Wion and resigned recently. She's also 1 of the few journalists in India who does a Good Analysis of Events
@asmit48472 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion
@LaggardInLove2 жыл бұрын
WION went woke!
@ohm45002 жыл бұрын
Not required. Not welcome
@abhinnakhale75202 жыл бұрын
Lol she is no different then a librandu hindu phobe.
@LaggardInLove2 жыл бұрын
@@abhinnakhale7520 well, wouldnt go so far to call her anti Hindu (not Hinduphobe, there is difference), but neither an extraordinary journalist. I think she blew up due to her China coverage during COVID.
@Harsh.S.A.H.9 ай бұрын
What ram ji did was in favour of both prakriti and shambuk ji ...he desired to go to heaven, ram ji fulfilled it but with a little change so that laws of nature couldn't be disturbed Shambuk went to heaven but without his body...thats the one solution to problems of all ...prakriti, law, brahmin ,his son , ayodhya wasi and Shambuk.....✅️
@OfficialAdarsh1713710 ай бұрын
लोगों को सच बताने का महान कार्य आप कर रहे हैं आपको प्रणाम 🙏🚩
@indianhistorybuff2 жыл бұрын
Shame that even very learned teachers can't even discuss when analysing literature. What a pathetic close minded society we are becoming.
@aniket16382 жыл бұрын
Kelav us teacher ka social Media pe virodh hua hai buslims hote to sar tan se juda kar dete
@AnimeshDas1082 жыл бұрын
Angry 40 year old IAS aspirants arriving in 3 2 1 👇👇👇👇👇
@MayankTiwari242 жыл бұрын
Ami ji has presented ramayan amd Mahabharata in such way that it becomes more curious.. i read both books and now started reading Valmiki Ramayan
@soniaarya0286 Жыл бұрын
Ami Ganatra ji, You are the best & who studied a lot our Hindu culture & very well explain to us. How much respect & love in our culture.
@arupghosh486410 ай бұрын
Ye lady bahut funny hain 😂😂 kya logic hain unka, hasi rokh nahi pa rahi... 😂😂😂
@krushna62142 жыл бұрын
Ami ganatra mam you are doing a great job please carryon and make some more podcasts on the topic ramayan we love to hear you always.
@iXpress2 жыл бұрын
in Europe a Scholar of Christianity must know Latin, Hebrew & Greek to comment on Bible & Christian history. In India many historians don't know Sanskrit still make comments on Vedas, Puranas .... as if they are Scholar on Hindu Scriptures
@priyankatgt3587 Жыл бұрын
Dear ! we do have some knowledge of Sanskrit which is compulsory in a few classes. Apart from that many foreigners have commented or explained or deeply studied our Vedas, puranas, Upanishads, Ramayana, Mahabharata, Shrimadbhagwadgeeta individually etc. Did they all know Sanskrit. Perhaps not.... But yes there are translations available in many languages of all these books from long ago. From there we get the knowledge of our ancient History, which is the mythology for foreigners. Hinduism is just not the religion, it's the sabhyata itself. Which is very old & maintained. And ofc individuals have some knowledge that's why they start debating on some topic. Which itself increases others knowledge too. Thank you
@anupamasharma88982 жыл бұрын
एक और तर्क है कि यदि शूद्र होने पर ही शंबूक वध करते तो क्या धोबी को नही मार सकते थे? सिर्फ जनता संतुष्ट हो इसलिए अपनी पत्नी को त्याग दिया और आजीवन दूसरा विवाह नही किया,यानी खुद पर ही अत्याचार किया था।सीता जी उनकी पत्नी नही अर्धांगिनी अर्थात उनका ही अंग थीं।
@ShubhamKumar-ys9pp2 жыл бұрын
Sayd dalit hone nhi , balki dalit ka Puja karane pr vadh kiya h.
@prakharshankar3064 Жыл бұрын
@@ShubhamKumar-ys9pp dalit hote. Hi nhi the tab dalit word 200 Saal pahale Nhi tha
@gauravsinghrajawat9939 Жыл бұрын
Dhobi ki baat nhi thi, ek vichar tha samaz ke andar ki raja ne aisi rani ko kyu apnaya jo 1 year tak kisi aur ke sath rahi thi. Logo ne ise ek apradh ki tarah dekha. Iski wajah se ayodhya me stree bhagne lagi thi aur example raja ka deti thi. Ye problem thi, sirf dhobi ko marne se problem solve nhi hoti. Jaisa rajya ramji chahte the wo nhi ho sakta tha.
@SanSha21002 жыл бұрын
Excellent !! For understanding Ramayana, one has to have eligibility and intelligence to look from various angles and context setting.
@रजतभूषण2 жыл бұрын
कही का रोड़ा कही घुसोड़ा। ये ही आज कल का कुतर्क करने का तरीका है। बहुत बाडिया point he janta tak pahunch Raha hai bhut धन्यवाद 🙏🙏
@आदित्यराय-त8थ2 жыл бұрын
मैंने खुद भी थोड़ा बहुत पढ़ा है और जगह जगह से संतो से आरएसएस के विचारकों के लेख या विद्वानो से सुना है इस मसले पर क्युकी मेरे सामने ये बात दलित वर्ग हमेसा से रखता आया है लेकिन अमी जी 🙏🙏🙏🙏 जो तर्क आपके हैँ मौलिक और वास्तविक हमने आज तक किसी विद्वान् से नहीं सुना इसका कारण निश्चित रूप से आपकी निष्ठा और विदवता को जाता है मेरे विचार से आप राजीव मल्होत्रा संजीव दिक्छित अंकुर आर्या नीरज अत्रि के समान हैँ 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@apsnapsn47002 жыл бұрын
Also, Shambhuk's intentions were very clear, vo swarg par kabza karna chahata hai. Usse pehle ese attempts ravan type log mar chuke hai, aur sab ko aftermath pata hi hai. Agar shri Ram ne shambhuk vadh na kiya hota to yahi kuch mahan log kahate, "Are kaha ke bhagwan shri Ram, agar bhagwan hote to time rahate shambhuk ko rok swarg ki tabhai rok na lete".
@adwaitvedant32972 жыл бұрын
Woh bhi sadeha ( with mortal body ) devlok Vijay... Itna deh vab zyada.. ek saccha yogi ka to ho hi nahi sakta.... tapasya ka pehla wasul hai dehvab chhor do.. atmasth hojao...You are not body , your are atma (pure consciousness).... sambhuk atmashth ho nahi paya yahi agyan (shudrata) ka lakshan hai... usko bas lalach tha apne deh leke swarg Vijayawada kare bhog ke lie...
@Fhjkkkkgfddffgh4 ай бұрын
Pahle tum bolte ho ye ramayan ka part nhi hai fir defend karne aa jate ho. Bhai saaf saf bol do shudra ka kaam sirf Brahman kshatriya ka sewa karna tha aur wo tapasya kar rha tha isliye maar Diya
@ABHISHEKYADAV-qm4ex2 жыл бұрын
This podcast showed if we could told the truth without falling to any propaganda. Hats off for you Bhai, Ami ji as awesome as always.
@abi-wg4jt2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@truthtobetold99152 жыл бұрын
Kya truth bataya video me? Voh b batao..
@vaibhavrajput99802 жыл бұрын
@@truthtobetold9915 she gave the actual context about the incident ,that is the truth she talked about
@truthtobetold99152 жыл бұрын
@@vaibhavrajput9980 Context 😐, I thought falsified. M preety sure Teacher did that too. Its so Lame.
@Bharatwasi72 жыл бұрын
@@vaibhavrajput9980 If a Brahmin committed adultery or rape, he was only fined (Manu Smriti VIII.385). However if a Shudra had sexual intercourse with a Brahmin woman, he was to be put to death whether the act was consensual or not (Vashishtha Dharmashastra 21.1). If a Brahmin abuses a Shudra, he has to pay a small fine (Manu Smriti VIII. 268) or nothing at all (Gautam Dharma Sutra XII.10). But in the reverse case, the tongue of a Shudra was to be cut off (Manu Smriti VIII. 270).
@zozochiku32293 ай бұрын
According to the Ayodhya Kaṇḍa of the Ramayana (in chapter 34, verses 10-13), King Dasharatha had around 350 wives, three of whom were his favourite queens:- Kausalya was his chief queen, Sumitra was his second queen Kaikeyi was his third queen.Itna bhi pata nehi hai phir aa jate ho gyan dene😅😅
@Green_Earth6233 Жыл бұрын
This Is Hinduism We Ready For Any Debate. But If You Debate On Islam Scenario Will Totally Change.
@sekh97422 жыл бұрын
half knowledge is more powerful than full knowledge: Vikas Divyakirti.
@geethapai95452 жыл бұрын
Half knowledge is more dangerous.
@Daredevil6622 жыл бұрын
Dammm 😂😂😂
@2020soumya2 жыл бұрын
He is happy with that much knowledge, and his students too...UPSC me jitna chahiye utna sufficient hai...baaki jinko mirchi lg rhi hai, unko hmesha mirchi lgti rhegi
@hd-in Жыл бұрын
@@2020soumya Going by your coments on this video, mirchi to tumhe lagi hai
@2020soumya Жыл бұрын
@@hd-in toh tumh v lg gyi !!! Wah ji wah 😂
@sudhakarsingh72552 жыл бұрын
Vikash sir said maine Twitter pe samay nhii bitaya hai ...maine adhayyan kiaa hai...he should watch this ...and know the difference between just reading it as it is and studying it knowing the context also understanding it .....Thanks 🙏 to this channel for bringing Ami ma'am and clearifying each and every point ...its so great of you
@anujsrivastava35722 жыл бұрын
Bhai is video me pura manipulate Kiya hai, saari baat isme subjective Kari hai, agar itna samjh nahi hai to khud padho Ramayan aur samjho,
@viveksharma90752 жыл бұрын
@@anujsrivastava3572 acha jo shlok padha vo bhi selective tha wahh re wahh re😂
@anujsrivastava35722 жыл бұрын
@@viveksharma9075 shlok sahi padhe par suno, unko . Yahi shlok to vikas ne bhi padhe the. Unhone shloka pe baat kaha ke gai
@gradstudent584 Жыл бұрын
He has an agenda. He is adored by either other propagandists or special kind of dumb self-righteous people.
@Holisti78007 ай бұрын
That's literal translation, one is expert on these books and the other one is a teacher with barely some surface knowledge on this. (I know by your comment that you will assume the expert to be vikas and the one with surface knowledge is Ami, but it's reverse if you observe after taking off your biased lenses)
@suna92612 жыл бұрын
I watched the lallantop video of Vikas Divyakirti Sir and was convinced that people have misinterpreted and that he is right, but seeing this video abt the shambuk vadh and the related explainations it is clear that Vikas Sir also omitted out some facts on that topic. Plus academics sometimes follow the logic and leave out emotions and its consequences on human behaviour, which I think was the case of Shri Ram calling out Sitaji. I am reminded of a saying in this context "everybody who speaks against you is not your enemy, everybody who speaks for you is not your friend" Two takeaways from this controversy is that experts from both sides should be heard, and always have space for some addition to what you have concluded.
@austin4265122 жыл бұрын
You are a fool if you think that Marxist and manipulator is an expert
@indiboy7 Жыл бұрын
Ami mam speaks so clearly and with so much articulation, I never miss any chance to listen to her. We have a true modern day Rishika in form of her.
@sweetnidhi6288 Жыл бұрын
मैं एक शूद्र हूं और मैं अब कभी भी तप और पूजा पाठ नही करूंगा। ना ही मोक्ष पाने की चाह रखूंगा। क्योंकि ये प्रकृति के विरुद्ध है और ऐसा करने से ब्राह्मण के पुत्र मृत्यु को प्राप्त हो सकते हैं। आपने मेरी आंखे खोल दी। जय सनातन धर्म
@harshitshukla3551 Жыл бұрын
Why you manipulating the facts. Sambook not killed just because he doing Tap. The motive of his Tap to go swarga with his body that is against the nature. And the same desire king Trishanku(Ancestor of Ram) have and get Shrap for this. Shravan Kumar, Shabri also shudras and doing Tap but never get punished.
@sweetnidhi6288 Жыл бұрын
@@harshitshukla3551 you are manipulating the facts. Rama killed shambhuk just because of he was a shudra and shudra people were not allowed to do tap. According to vyas smriti shudras are not suitable for swarg. That's the root cause of shambhuk murder. And there is no mention about doing tap by shabri. Shabri offered only fruits to rama and the fruit was not defiled.
@harshitshukla3551 Жыл бұрын
@@sweetnidhi6288 first of all Smriti and puran are not consider equivalent to Vedas(upnishads). And Tapashwani word is used for Sabri that means she is doing Tap. Also many shlokas written in ved are by lower class (shudras) that means at that time shudras also allowed do the Tap and can change their varna. Motive of Sambook is clearly mention you can not deny it. Whole Katha is symbolic that says if you want to fulfill your unnatural desires and it affects others, it should be stopped. If wanted to malign the Sanatan dharma and Ram then you can find many ways to that. I advised you to watch Acharya prashant for spiritual knowledge. And am not gonna reply you further.
@BengaliManfromWB11 ай бұрын
@@sweetnidhi6288 I am a Brahmin and I agree with you. In those days things were like that. Ab aisa rules nahi chalega. Shambuk badh kaa koi excuse nahi hai. But other things that she said about Rama was right for example Rama did not have a 2nd wife. Isa aur Buddha ek lauta insaan hai Jo kisiko mara nahi. Isliye Buddhism aur Christianity sabse achcha hai. Phir bhi ek cheez spasht hai, hum Hindu log Molla logon ke jaisa nahin hai. Hum log sar tan se juda nahi bolte.
@PriyankaKUMARI-b5g9 ай бұрын
Jai bhim
@swapnildas85772 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. Thanks a lot for bringing such knowledgeable experts.
@BalajiSharma2 жыл бұрын
Great conversation. Glad that this discussed nuances beyond the mischief in isolating issues/stories from context. Kudos to Ms. Ganatra. A very minor nitpick. Pronunciations matter, if only for authenticity. Vishrava and Pulastya we're both mispronounced. It is also worth mentioning that after Ravana, Pulastya's name was removed from the Saptarshi group - a sign that punishments were based on actions and not on birth considerations.
@Bharatwasi72 жыл бұрын
If a Brahmin committed adultery or rape, he was only fined (Manu Smriti VIII.385). However if a Shudra had sexual intercourse with a Brahmin woman, he was to be put to death whether the act was consensual or not (Vashishtha Dharmashastra 21.1). If a Brahmin abuses a Shudra, he has to pay a small fine (Manu Smriti VIII. 268) or nothing at all (Gautam Dharma Sutra XII.10). But in the reverse case, the tongue of a Shudra was to be cut off (Manu Smriti VIII. 270).
@mahalakshmir24042 жыл бұрын
@@Bharatwasi7 What is the context ? Don't bring stuff out of context. Which Manvantara ?
@madhaviphadnis2 жыл бұрын
@@Bharatwasi7 and how many people follow Manusmriti?
@AmitJha-ow2sr2 жыл бұрын
@@Bharatwasi7 padhi h manusmriti kabhi, padhna chhod dekhi h kabhi?
@priyankaSingh-yj4bg Жыл бұрын
No its not vishrava its Vishshrava, and she is right
@ramsoft51892 жыл бұрын
Bhagawati Abhaar 🙏🙏, you have captured the topic in proper light of varchasv of Sri Rama and the trust that Mata Sita had in him. Unlike other videos on the same topic which sounded like apologetics I was dying to make a video of my own, now I will forward the link instead. Every Sanatani should read and embibe the essence of Sri Rama through Ramayan and be ready to put proper responses when such Dhoorthta is exhibited by scholarly people for whatever reasons. Contemplation should always be encouraged not Cancel culture
@advait11152 жыл бұрын
नमस्कार, इस वाद प्रतिवाद में मैंने जितने भी वीडियो देखे हैं वो संदर्भ से भटक गए हैं। बात ये नहीं है कि श्री राम ने क्या कहा और किस भाव से कहा। विकास दिव्यकीर्ती जी का संदर्भ ये था कि अलग अलग काल खंड में लेखक ने क्या लिखा और क्या छोड़ दिया। वे यह समझा रहे थे कि जो प्रसंग वर्तमान काल खंड में सामान्य जन को समझने में अनुचित लग सके उसे कालांतर में लेखक छोड़ते गए। इस संदर्भ में तुलसी दास जी ने कई प्रसंग जो आधुनिक काल में विवादित हो सकते थे उसे छोड़ दिया। जैसे सीता परित्याग, शंबूक वध आदि। अतः इस दृष्टि से तुलसीदास पिछले लेखकों से प्रगतिशील हैं। ऐसा प्रश्न upsc पूछती है इसलिए ये पढ़ाना आवश्यक हो जाता है। पर हर डिबेट में ये सिद्ध करने की कोशिश की जा रही है कि प्रभु राम ने को कहा उसे सही सिद्ध किया जाए। इसकी कोई आवश्यकता नहीं है जो नारायण के अवतार हैं उन्हें हम सही और गलत नहीं सिद्ध कर सकते। जो बात समझने की जरूरत है वो ये है कि हमने राम को लेखकों के लेखनी से बंध कर देखा है। हर समय का लेखक अपने काल खंड की सीमाओं से बंधा रहता है और उसी अनुरूप चरित्र चित्रण करता है। आज के 200 वर्ष बाद हो सकता है कोइ और लेखक श्री राम का चरित्र चित्रण और आधुनिक ढंग से करे जो वर्तमान से भिन्न हो। ये एक प्रक्रिया है इसे हम रोक नहीं सकते हैं। जय श्री राम।
@abhi9va262 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever ।।
@ramautar62192 жыл бұрын
आदरणीया बहन जी आपका कोई भी तर्क वैज्ञानिक कसौटी पर खरा नहीं उतरेगा।
@SanSha21002 жыл бұрын
Adaraniya Ram autar ji these are social behaviour talks and nothing to do with Science. And in social behaviour context setting is very important, we cannot take some clips out of context and create ruckus and fan hatful emotions to damage already existing fault lines in society.
@Hero138abcd2 жыл бұрын
@@SanSha2100 social behaviour? She's quoting some fairytale nonense from scriptures with barely any rationale to it.
@utkarshninawe976 ай бұрын
@@Hero138abcd so why do people have problems with it? According to the tale, she is right
@studies33272 жыл бұрын
🔺श्री रामचन्द्र जी महाराज का चरित्र : वाल्मीकि रामायण में श्री रामचन्द्र द्वारा वनवास काल में निषाद राज द्वारा लाये गए भोजन को ग्रहण करना (बाल कांड 1/37-40) एवं शबर (कोल/भील) जाति की शबरी से बेर खाना (अरण्यक कांड 74/7) यह सिद्ध करता हैं की शूद्र वर्ण से उस काल में कोई भेदभाव नहीं करता था। श्री रामचंद्र जी महाराज वन में शबरी से मिलने गए। शबरी के विषय में वाल्मीकि मुनि लिखते हैं की वह शबरी सिद्ध जनों से सम्मानित तपस्वनी थी। अरण्यक 74/10 इससे यह सिद्ध होता हैं की शूद्र को रामायण काल में तपस्या करने पर किसी भी प्रकार की कोई रोक नहीं थी। नारद मुनि वाल्मीकि रामायण (बाल कांड 1/16) में लिखते हैं राम श्रेष्ठ, सबके साथ समान व्यवहार करने वाले और सदा प्रिय दृष्टी वाले हैं। अब पाठकगण स्वयं विचार करें कि श्रीराम कैसे तपस्या में लीन किसी शूद्र कूल में उत्पन्न हुए शम्बूक की हत्या कर सकते हैं? जब वेद, रामायण, महाभारत, उपनिषद्, गीता आदि सभी धर्म शास्त्र शूद्र को तपस्या करने, विद्या ग्रहण से एवं आचरण से ब्राह्मण बनने, समान व्यवहार करने का सन्देश देते हैं तो यह वेद विरोधी कथन तर्क शास्त्र की कसौटी पर असत्य सिद्ध होता है। नारद मुनि का कथन कि द्वापर युग में शूद्र का तप करना वर्जित है असत्य है। 🔷*श्री राम का पुष्पक विमान लेकर शम्बूक को खोजना एक और असत्य कथन है क्योंकि पुष्पक विमान तो श्री राम जी ने अयोध्या से लौटते ही उसके वास्तविक स्वामी कुबेर को लौटा दिया था।* 🔷*सन्दर्भ- युद्ध कांड 127/62*🔷 जिस प्रकार किसी भी कर्म को करने से कर्म करने वाले व्यक्ति को ही उसका फल मिलता है उसी प्रकार किसी भी व्यक्ति के तप करने से उस तप का फल उस तप करने वाले व्यक्ति मात्र को मिलेगा इसलिए यह कथन की शम्बूक के तप से ब्राह्मण पुत्र का देहांत हो गया असत्य है। सत्य यह है की मध्य काल में जब वेद विद्या का लोप होने लगा था, उस काल में ब्राह्मण व्यक्ति अपने गुणों से नहीं अपितु अपने जन्म से समझा जाने लगा था, उस काल में जब शूद्र को नीचा समझा जाने लगा था, उस काल में जब नारी को नरक का द्वार समझा जाने लगा था, उस काल में मनुस्मृति में भी वेद विरोधी और जातिवाद का पोषण करने वाले श्लोकों को मिला दिया गया था, उस काल में वाल्मीकि रामायण में भी अशुद्ध पाठ को मिला दिया गया था जिसका नाम उत्तर कांड है। इस प्रकार के असत्य के प्रचार से न केवल अवैदिक विचारधारा को बढ़ावा मिला वरन् श्रीराम को जाति विरोधी कहकर कुछ अज्ञानी लोग अपने स्वार्थ की सिद्धि के लिए हिन्दू जाति की बड़ी संख्या को विधर्मी अथवा नास्तिक बनाने में सफल हुए हैं। तदर्थ सत्य के ग्रहण और असत्य के त्याग में सदा तत्पर रहते हुए, हमें श्री रामचंद्र के प्रति जो अन्याय करने का विष वमन किया जाता है उसका प्रतिकार करना चाहिए तभी राम राज्य को सार्थक और सिद्ध किया जा सकेगा। ~ *स्वामी विद्यानंद सरस्वती (रामायण के नाम पर भ्रांतियाँ और उनका समाधान)*
@babannandavadekar59342 жыл бұрын
अरे रे अब आपको कितवा कष्ट उठताना पडता है कितना. शूद्रोने अन्याय. किया
@studies33272 жыл бұрын
@@babannandavadekar5934 भाई शूद्र धार्मिक व्यक्ति ही होते हैं और वर्ण-व्यवस्था कर्म आधारित है जन्म आधारित नहीं। तुम कुछ भी कर लो सनातन धर्म में सेंध नहीं मार पाओगे।
@lifeoftaurus2 жыл бұрын
I really adore her😉😉
@good_king20242 жыл бұрын
Ami Ganatra ji explains very nicely. Namaste 🙏
@up_examphobia10 ай бұрын
Unable to clarify the matter i still believe on respected vikas divykirti sir
@Learner212 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Amiji is superb.
@NishantVikrama2 жыл бұрын
I think viewers are parted 2 sides for one truth. So I recommend the team of VAAD to invite Vikas Sir and Ganatra ji to have a face 2 face debate which can give us a broad view as a viewer
@Prakharwani2 жыл бұрын
भ्रमित मत करो Wrong information
@s_s31322 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the podcast. Amazing 🙏🙏
@beenamansingh8666 Жыл бұрын
एमी जी का बाल्मीकि रामायण पर गहन अध्ययन के कारण ही तथ्यों को सही संदर्भ में सही दिशामे सटीक विश्लेषण किया। आजकल भारतीय साहित्य हो या संस्कृति को अज्ञानी लोग जनमानस को जानकर भ्रमित कर अपने को श्रेष्ठ बताने के कुत्सित प्रयास कर रहे हैं। आपका बहुत बहुत आभार धन्यवाद
@vijayak88858 ай бұрын
I don't agree fully with Amiji ,the way she is defending Ram. Here l feel, Ram is worried about his kingship as he is going to be crowned now. He even tells Sita u can go to Laxman or Sugreev or Laxman which is not at all Dharma.
@Holisti78007 ай бұрын
Dude she quoted the exact verses, what else do you want? It's clear that you have some heavy confirmation bias.
@pramod_p52 жыл бұрын
Vikas Divyakirti: takes what Shri Rama said out of context, also, him: Don't take my words out of context oh, the irony, lol.
@avishekG2 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation!! I always had the doubt about the justification of agnipravesh. Now I am clear. Thanks for this Q/A
@manojojha6397 Жыл бұрын
अगर शंबुक कुछ गलत कर रहा था तो समझाया जा सकता था नहीं मानने पर कैद किया जा सकता था पर गर्दन काट देना कहाँ तक उचित है उस भगवान के लिए जीसे हम समदर्शी कहते हैं
@SatishSingh-ww4cp10 ай бұрын
भाई आपने मान कैसे लिया कि राम जी शंबूक जी की हत्या करेंगे यह सब बकवास है हम कभी ऐसा नहीं मान सकते
@Liyasilverstan10 ай бұрын
राजा का काम दंड देना है शिवाजी भी गला काट देते थे गौ हत्यारों का
@neerajahirwar905610 ай бұрын
@@SatishSingh-ww4cpतो फिर वाल्मीकि रामायण ही मत मानो,उसी में लिखा है शंबूक वध।😅
@SatishSingh-ww4cp10 ай бұрын
@@neerajahirwar9056 बहुत से धार्मिक ग्रंथों को धर्म के कुछ ठेकेदारों ने अपने स्वार्थ के लिए modify कर रखा है
@neerajahirwar905610 ай бұрын
@@SatishSingh-ww4cp किन लोगों ने कर दिया मोडिफाई!सिवाय ब्रामणो के।😀☝️
@hemantmishra5452 жыл бұрын
हम यह मान क्यों नहीं लेते कि रचनाएं समय - सापेक्ष हुआ करती हैं। इतनी सफ़ाई क्यों देनी पड़ती है?
@pksharma9041 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Vaad and Ami Ganatra specially, for spreading real knowledge about our Hindu Scriptures and history(Ramayan, Mahabharat) Hari Om 🕉 Jai Shree Ram ❤
@yogendra268 Жыл бұрын
जब इतना प्रेम था तो धोबी के कहने पर सीता जी का त्याग क्योँ किया।
@dhavalsuthar9285Ай бұрын
me kya bolu tumse kyo ki tumse suna nahi jayega #%^$^%* ke
@rajivsrivastav721811 ай бұрын
खुद ही पोल खोल रही है 😂 Dr. विकास Sir rightly said 💯
@sfoodchain9891 Жыл бұрын
जो छप गया वो छुपेगा नहीं 😂😂😂😂
@swarnjeetSingh11 ай бұрын
Thanks for explanation in very clear way, this is important for all of us to understand the truth.
@iraja333 Жыл бұрын
To my family in Dharam especially my sister 🥰🙏 Jaya Jaya Sri SitaRam 🙏🙏🙏
@rishvbhardwaj80242 жыл бұрын
Pure Gold content ..keep it up bro ..so simple yet so much full of knowledge ...love your work 💕💕
@aryansingh24502 жыл бұрын
The best thing i liked abut her is that even vikas sir has said those untrue words due to lack of knowledge of religion but still she is reffering him as sir
@Hero138abcd2 жыл бұрын
He is more knowledge that her and she didn't clear shit. Obviously delusional religious clowns can't see it
@aryansingh2450 Жыл бұрын
@@Hero138abcd kya hota hai be aur agar wo knowledgeable hai bhi to hamare dharm par hi kyo baat karta hai aur koi dharam pe kyo nahi karta wo baat aur agar padana hi hai to class me sirf syllabus ki bate padao religion kyu padane lage hai chodu
@aryansingh2450 Жыл бұрын
@@Hero138abcd ye chutiyo wali baat maine lack of knowledge of religion kaha tha samghe woke ke 14
@diwakerviresh6510 ай бұрын
Justification of shambuk badh is not clear. I think all Sita AGNIPARIKKHA " and VANVAS was the rivelry of Vashisht and Vishwamitra. Vashisht was Bhrahmin and Vishwamitra was Rajput. Whenever Vishwamitra got the chance he played game with DASHRATHA family., and whenever Vashisht got chance, he toppled that decision and played his game . It is the history that Brahmins always more educated than other caste of society. So in all literature which have been written by Brahmins, they showed their supremacy.
@tapanbiswal41082 жыл бұрын
Vikash sir is a great teacher
@tilkeshwarjha96272 жыл бұрын
At the same time,he is a sweet poison. Destroyer and distorter of sanatani ethics, represents the half truth ,suiting left ideology.
@anartisticjourney9192 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@dineshk632 жыл бұрын
Kutton ko kutte hi pasand aate Hain.
@CillianMurphy. Жыл бұрын
But he has a little knowledge with big mouth...
@subhashithaks2 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to her Ami Ganatraji. She so eloquently explains our epics. Heard Vikasji in Lallantop so that I can get the context. Vikasji is well read but felt he is missing the point. The examples Vikasji is quoting that they were regressive so Tulsidasiji left it out (so he was progressive) were not regressive in the FIRST place. Shambuk wasn't punished because he was shudra. The words he quoted, as was used for Mata Sita doesn't appear in Ramayana (though it is used in Mahabharatha by second person who was describing the incident). So which will obviously not be referred/included by Tulsidasji. And what Ramji told Sita mata which we get to know by Valmikiji weren't regressive either as it had a purpose as clearly explained by Ami Ganatraji. So Tulsidasji left these things out not because he might have thought these as regressive but might be because his sole intention was bhakthi of Sri Rama his ishta devata, so concentrating on those where he can express his bhakthi. So the better way of addressing the UPSC question would be to rather to concentrate on those parts of Ramacharitamanas where he can get a glimpse of what were the thoughts of Tulsidasji towards women & how he revered them & what expressions in his poems makes him progressive.
@tw29862 жыл бұрын
So ma’am, I ask you- was shambhuk vadh justified according to you. And do you really believe a shudra meditating can lead to death of Brahmin. How can a shudra be a Hindu if he can’t read the holy texts. A Christian can read bible, a muslim - Kuran. But a shudra was not allowed to read vedas. How come? How can you justify it logically?
@nirmalchandrabiswas64032 жыл бұрын
@@tw2986 have you listened to the podcast carefully
@tw29862 жыл бұрын
@@nirmalchandrabiswas6403 yes I have . Please be more specific
@nirmalchandrabiswas64032 жыл бұрын
@@tw2986 so didn't you understand what she said regarding that. For a Shudra life is easier, more freedom is given to them. They are cared as a younger brother and also shown a way to right path. Evolution and devolution in Varna is the described social method. Action or karma decides the status of a person.
@tw29862 жыл бұрын
@@nirmalchandrabiswas6403 but what is your opinion on Shambuk vadh? Do you agree with it?
@holisticdevelopment42022 жыл бұрын
highly required discussion. thanks to both of you.
@YatendraYadav-pd7ubАй бұрын
You are right 👍❤❤❤
@studies33272 жыл бұрын
🔷वाल्मीकि रामायण से शूद्र के उपासना से महान बनने के प्रमाण : मुनि वाल्मीकि जी कहते हैं की इस रामायण के पढ़ने से (स्वाध्याय से) ब्राह्मण बड़ा सुवक्ता ऋषि होगा, क्षत्रिय भूपति होगा, वैश्य अच्छा लाभ प्राप्त करेगा और शूद्र महान होगा। रामायण में चारों वर्णों के समान अधिकार देखते हैं। सन्दर्भ- प्रथम अध्याय- अंतिम श्लोक इसके अतिरिक्त अयोध्या कांड अध्याय 63 श्लोक 50-51 तथा अध्याय 64 श्लोक 32-33 में रामायण को श्रवण करने का वैश्यों और शूद्रों दोनों के समान अधिकार का वर्णन है। 🔷महाभारत से शुद्र के उपासना से महान बनने के प्रमाण : श्री कृष्ण जी कहते हैं - हे पार्थ ! जो पापयोनि स्त्रियाँ, वैश्य और शूद्र हैं, यह भी मेरी उपासना कर परमगति को प्राप्त होते हैं। गीता 9/32 🔷उपनिषद् से शूद्र के उपासना से महान बनने के प्रमाण : यह शूद्र वर्ण पूषण अर्थात पोषण करने वाला हैं और साक्षात् इस पृथ्वी के समान हैं यतः(=क्योंकि) जैसे यह पृथ्वी सबका भरण -पोषण करती है, वैसे शूद्र भी सबका भरण-पोषण करता है। सन्दर्भ- बृहदारण्यक उपनिषद् 1/4/13 व्यक्ति गुणों से शूद्र अथवा ब्राह्मण होता है न कि जन्म गृह से। सत्यकाम जाबाल जब गौतम गोत्री हारिद्रुमत मुनि के पास शिक्षार्थी होकर पहुँचा तो मुनि ने उसका गोत्र पूछा। उन्होंने उत्तर दिया था की युवास्था में मैं अनेक व्यक्तियों की सेवा करती रही। उसी समय तेरा जन्म हुआ, इसलिए मैं नहीं जानती की तेरा गोत्र क्या है। मेरा नाम सत्यकाम है। इस पर मुनि ने कहा- जो ब्राह्मण न हो वह ऐसी सत्य बात नहीं कर सकता। सन्दर्भ- छान्दोग्य उपनिषद् 3/4 🔷महाभारत में यक्ष -युधिष्ठिर संवाद 313/108-109 में युधिष्ठिर के अनुसार व्यक्ति कुल, स्वाध्याय व ज्ञान से द्विज नहीं बनता अपितु केवल आचरण से बनता है। 🔷कर्ण ने सूत पुत्र होने के कारण स्वयंवर में अयोग्य ठह राये जाने पर कहा था- जन्म देना तो ईश्वर अधीन है, परन्तु पुरुषार्थ के द्वारा कुछ का कुछ बन जाना मनुष्य के वश में है। 🔷आपस्तम्ब धर्म सूत्र 2/5/11/10-11 - जिस प्रकार धर्म आचरण से निकृष्ट वर्ण अपने से उत्तम उत्तम वर्ण को प्राप्त होता हैं जिसके वह योग्य हो। इसी प्रकार अधर्म आचरण से उत्तम वर्ण वाला मनुष्य अपने से नीचे वर्ण को प्राप्त होता हैं। 🔷जो शूद्र कूल में उत्पन्न होके ब्राह्मण के गुण -कर्म- स्वभाव वाला हो वह ब्राह्मण बन जाता हैं उसी प्रकार ब्राह्मण कूल में उत्पन्न होकर भी जिसके गुण-कर्म-स्वाभाव शुद्र के सदृश हों वह शूद्र हो जाता हैं- मनु 10/65 🔷चारों वेदों का विद्वान, किन्तु चरित्रहीन ब्राह्मण शूद्र से निकृष्ट होता हैं, अग्निहोत्र करने वाला जितेन्द्रिय ही ब्राह्मण कहलाता है- महाभारत वन पर्व 313/111 🔷ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय, वैश्य और शूद्र सभी तपस्या के द्वारा स्वर्ग प्राप्त करते हैं। महाभारत अनुगीता पर्व 91/37 🔷सत्य, दान, क्षमा, शील अनृशंसता, तप और दया जिसमें हो वह ब्राह्मण हैं और जिसमें यह न हों वह शूद्र होता है। वन पर्व 180/21-26
@noselfnoproblem2 жыл бұрын
Based on the discussion, I suspect that shambhuk could have been practicing one of the forbidden aghori tantric practices that leads to eternal life in the flesh, but as a consequence other beings are hurt and is against the natural laws of nature. The child regaining consciousness after shambhuk was killed seem to indicate that there was something like that going on perhaps. Ofcourse this is completely a conjecture on my part.
@girdharnag92422 жыл бұрын
Pura body ke saath devatya prapat ki baat se hi shimbuk ko maar diya uska definition deti ho aapke baat clear nhi haiii
@shreem3752 жыл бұрын
Exactly...aise dekha jaaye toh sambhuk kinda wanted to be amara. Jo Ravan ko milke b na mila. Usko b mara gya. Aur sambhuk ne bhi wahi krna chaha. Aur kehte he ghor tantrik padhhati me agar ap apna umr badhana chahte ho toh apko kisi aur ka umr lena hota he. If i m not wrong isiliye uss baalak ki jaan gyi hogi. To usko maarna to yatharth he na kyu k wahi pr Ravan b mra he. Kya pta Shambuk aage chlke amarta paake Raavan p2 bnjata toh. I feel it was nyay to kill shambuk.Agar Ravan Vadh zaruri tha to Shambuk vadh bhi zaruri tha taaki koi dusra Ravan na pnpe.Prakriti k niyam k khilaf ravan b gya n shambuk bhi toh ek ko maara dusre ko kyu chhordete haaain.
@Holisti78007 ай бұрын
Why conjecture on your own just go and read the Sanskrit verses and understand the whole situation.
@ThatLogicalGuy12 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Vinash divyakirti never cleared ias ips irs or ifs. He just makes a mockery out of students.
@devot2013 Жыл бұрын
Pranams to such learned analyst. God bless Ganatra madam🙏
@bhups56 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to this Devi to clear our doubts ♥️
@sahayapurv2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful conversation ❤️
@Annapurna24052 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for these insights!! Your interpretation on Sita mata taking a test for Lord Rama sounds very logical to prove that Lord Rama only had to prove to the world what Sita mata character is. TO him, it is pure love for Sita. Because he is a king he had to do that, if it were a regular citizen, it might not be as required. But, I have one doubt - when you call Sravan a Shudra because his mother is so, should Ravan not called a Rakshasha(and not a brahmin) as his mother is so? This is only to seek clarification. Not to question you at all. Salutations with utmost respect🙏
@shravyaamin83462 жыл бұрын
It's high time that we start speaking about the competitive and exploitative nature of many such coaching classes......
@saloni22442 жыл бұрын
Exactly ye vikas kameena bahut bada harami hai
@vinaykachhare50302 жыл бұрын
आप से एक निवेदन है कि मनुस्मृति पर भी वाद प्रस्तुत करें धन्यवाद♥️ सत्मेव जयते🙏🙏