Vacuum Formed Packaging & 3D Printed Molds

[@danhogan4987]

Interesting and well produced series. Best of luck with the Kickstarter campaign.

[@The3DHandyman]

Thanks, Dan

[@medyk3D]

I've seen somewhere that people are using compressed air to release the molds from vaccum formed plastic. Probably won't work for 1:07 though.

[@The3DHandyman]

Haha, yeah. Nothing works at 1:07. I think if the buck was designed with this concept in mind, it would work. This 3D printed part is actually the first vacuum forming mold that I made since 2006. So, it worked... but it could use some tweaks.

[@Dragirek]

You can shutdown the vaccum as soon as the form is done, around 4sec after its pulled, that let air going between the mould and plastic and prevent the mould from heating and warping

[@katjones5187]

What is the best place to purchase PetG? A3 size

[@frikkiesmit327]

What plastic is used to make the mould? The sheet plastic that makes becomes the mould.

[@The3DHandyman]

The sheet plastic I use most is Styrene and PETG. PETG is by far my first choice because it does not shatter or tear easily. PETG also does not stink as much as Styrene or ABS. Always use a respirator when doing this kind of work no matter what you are using. Let me know if you have any other questions.

[@berkaltinkopru1362]

My PLA molds constantly melt whenever I vacuum form over them. Is PETG the best choice of filament for this process?

[@The3DHandyman]

PETG is a better choice but still not ideal if you are thermoforming with PETG. The higher the filament temperature rating, the better the print will hold up in thermoforming. Also print your molds with lots of perimeters and top side layers. The thicker it is the longer the overall structure will hold up... but not necessarily fine details. PETG's temperature range is 230-250C. Polycarbonate or Nylon would probably hold up longer as a vacuum forming mold because the print at even higher temperatures. They may also be challenging materials to print with. I haven't tried myself. Here's a list of printing temps: filaments.ca/pages/temperature-guide

[@AntonioRodriguez-ik7jq]

Very impressive. How much did it cost you to buy the custom packaging and foam insert?

[@The3DHandyman]

Thank you kindly! In small quantities it runs about $7 each. In larger quantities of 100 or more, it could be around half of that.

[@11danzizzle11]

Yet another great part in the series, something i'm a little curious of is what did you do to design the 3d model to use as the buck? I'm guessing you had a way more elegant sort of idea than my initial thought which uses Blenders "Shrinkwrap" modifier which will project an object onto another so if you use a flat plane over an object its practically digital vacuforming. Anyways I can't wait for the next in the series and have yourself a wonderful day! :)

[@The3DHandyman]

That was actually the first idea for designing the buck! At the time that I filmed this there was not enough time for experimentation with that modifier, unfortunately. The model for this was made in Solidworks. The challenging part of modeling this in Blender would be maintaining consistent draft angles and then cutting away the all the air vents in a way that didn't create a geometric disaster. I would still like to mess with the Shrinkwrap modifier tho... one day. You have a great day as well, Dan!

[@11danzizzle11]

@@The3DHandyman It's still super cool to me that it was a consideration! For draft angles/managing topology and underlying geometry I know a few ways that could work well, but when you know CAD well enough might as well use that for sure! The modifiers are so powerful once you get the hang of them and I hope in the future you can mess around more with it, a current work in progress I have is a nicer support generation for FDM and resin printing that uses shrinkwrap. :) Thank you!

[@pabloG3d]

will you do a video on how you made the foam packaging or did you use a service?

[@The3DHandyman]

I am going through a local manufacturer for the foam packaging. It seems like it would be possible to do in a DIY setting but the associated costs and difficulty would be hard to justify.

[@fabianpuyol7354]

Hola me podría decir de cuánto es la bomba de vacío que utiliza porfa me daría informacion

[@The3DHandyman]

¡Hola! Una bomba de vacío pequeña y económica y un tanque de vacío para almacenar el vacío son la forma más económica de hacerlo. Lo que uso en este video es una aspiradora de taller de 6.5hp y creo que costaba alrededor de 100usd

[@fyous]

We should do a vacuum forming project together!

[@bobweiram6321]

Save printing and material by printing with as little infill as possible and then fill the cavity with epoxy or polyurethane mixed with sand.

[@The3DHandyman]

Good thought! In order for to fill the cavity with material I think Gyroid infill is a must. What have you used before? I was in need of a new stepper motor for my printer at the time and could only print with Rectilinear infill at 90 without issues so I did without.

[@bobweiram6321]

@@The3DHandyman I use it on the lowest setting with just enough to hold up the model. Since it's a dome, it's likely to support its weight with the hollow facing down.

[@The3DHandyman]

There are 6 videos in this series! 1: Intro kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4qbYqGie7CGnpo 2: Casting clear resin mushrooms kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnzXXmCBas93h5I 3: Casting Cement Pots kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5qrZ4uga6ihaZo 4: Growing Moss kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3LRZZShrtx5rK8 5: Prototype vacuum formed packaging kzbin.info/www/bejne/imnFnmt9q6xmis0 6: DIY silicone injection machine kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWq3h6aofZt4mMU I hope to make more specials like this in the future, so be sure to back The 3D Handyman on Patreon! www.patreon.com/the3dhandyman You can also buy some classy floating metal Mushroom Prints to help the channel out! www.etsy.com/shop/CrucibleCompany Buy Prebuilt Vacuum Forming Machines! (these links help support the channel) Vaquform DT2 www.vaquform.com?sca_ref=1643805.yrI65jRrre Mayku Formbox amzn.to/3u9CAOB

[@gk6993]

Man, your videos aren't coming through to me.

[@The3DHandyman]

How so?

[@gk6993]

@@The3DHandyman You Post a new video, I'm subscribed all notifications. I haven't had any of your videos come up in my list. I thought your mask making video was the last one you made. Then a casual look through youtube shows this packaging video. I've not seen any of your videos since the mask making video. I've a lot to catch up on.

[@The3DHandyman]

Thanks for the heads up on that. I have seen similar comments while browsing other channels as well. There is such an overwhelming amount of content on KZbin that the Algorithm doesn't display videos with a small number of views with any real consistency. If I scroll my KZbin feed, virtually everything has 100k+ views. My videos do not have that many... not since the mask videos. Thanks for watching Garry! Every view helps

[@key2010]

aaaah yes, KZbin, where amateurs make "premium" products... not only was this wasteful, it was inadequate ... 4:56 an experienced manufacturer would've told you that there should be a rim, taller than the tallest part where shock can be dampened or absorbed, that's only 2 things noticed just by seeing this

[@The3DHandyman]

That's why the comment section is here to learn more :)