Looks like a vane pump. The vanes are probably extended by centrifugal force as it spins and scoop air and compress it as they rotate off-centre to the cavity.
@bigclivedotcom4 жыл бұрын
Oh - it's a two stage vane pump on the same shaft. I guess one will be a roughing pump and the second stage increases the vacuum.
@patrickjholguin44474 жыл бұрын
You got it spot on!! Take care!
@bobweiram63213 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom I can tell he's never seen your channel. He's not starstruck. LOL!
@lordjaashin3 жыл бұрын
@@bobweiram6321 why would anyone be starstruck by seeing a comment?
@daveg89184 жыл бұрын
Great tear down. Now you need to rebuild it.
@jacobfoxworth4 жыл бұрын
Its a two stage vane pump. Google has all kinds of animations on how they work. But yeah, that basically it. The things that sling out are the vanes. They spin around and create a difference of pressure as they spin from the wider area to the narrower area. The oil helps seal everything up to allow lower vaccum to be achieved. It also lubricates but main function is sealing.
@Peter_S_4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the teardown, having never seen the inside of a vacuum pump before.
@FactsMattersUSA3 жыл бұрын
Could have cleaned the motor brushes, replaced pump springs and wala, a new pump is born. You destroyed a very nice pump. AMAZING!
@sjefoekel60584 жыл бұрын
This is te most tidy workshop i have ever seen!👍👍👍
@RayRay-nb7tn4 жыл бұрын
You are not alone. I never knew what was inside or what the individual pieces did inside. Thank you for the show and tell. Lolol. Nice video. Will see you on your next one.
@watomb4 жыл бұрын
JD industries sells the Cartridge($160) and you can make that pump work like new.
@throttlebottle59064 жыл бұрын
buy a new one at probably contractor discounted rate, unload old one as rebuildable on fleabay or some local lists. :)
@josbrun3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I learned something today. I have an old JB pump that I took out of service few years back. It was pumping, but making noises. Probably one of the vanes. It’s been sitting under my workbench ever since. I’ll se if I can get the cartridge for it and swap it. Would be nice to have a spare pump.
@dbc1057 ай бұрын
Hey man, I'm just glad to see youi tear it down, I have one that runs but is not sucking a vacuum and now I know what to do. Thanks.
@RedFathom4 жыл бұрын
has the same coupler as my yellowjacket pump. it's like a mechanical fuse for if something bad happens.
@danielgagne4854 жыл бұрын
dual stage, wet vane pump. Those" scoops" are called vanes. If the motor runs, and all vanes are in good shape, the next piece that would fail is the reeds. Im not a pump mguy either, but Used to help build dry vane pumps and have used them in my lab many years. Break about one a year...until I bought an Edwards pump. Its industrial grade and worth rebuilding. Most are throw away junk these days. Nice video. Had I never done a teardown this would have been very helpful.
@lordjaashin3 жыл бұрын
where do you get replacement parts for rebuilding edwards rotary vane vacuum pump?
@kangaroogod4 жыл бұрын
It sure beats the knowledge I had which was “its pfm”. Thanks for staying up and shooting the vid
@marknaravas3184 жыл бұрын
Same thing that creates pressure in automatic transmissions. But those have variable displacement.
@JuanTodoli4 жыл бұрын
Excellent visual of the acting vanes. Thank you for the teardown, appreciated 👍
@Uncle-Duncan-Shack4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks for sharing. Popped you a mail on how the gas ballast works on pumps fitted with them. Kind regards, Duncan, South Africa
@jullian02rq2 жыл бұрын
Can I use a HVAC vacuum pump in my trucks AC system??
@MrMultitool3 жыл бұрын
That WAS a good pump when it was new.I sure like mine.
@electricboyo5 ай бұрын
It looks to me like that is a 2-stage vacuum pump. There are 2 pumping rotors with vanes, each one in a separate compartment. The exhaust from one compartment is the intake for the second compartment. That’s also why there are 2 reed valves. It looks like 1 of the rotors is thicker than the other. I don’t know sure which comes first? I recently bought a similar 2-stage vacuum pump at Harbor Freight. Everyday price was $139 but they gave me some discounts so it wound up costing < $100 and it works great.
@hvacworkshop47919 ай бұрын
Why they don't make a discharge port with hose connection, So you can use it to test system pressure?
@alstevens444 ай бұрын
😊BTW what's the parts # for the coupler
@scrambler3503 жыл бұрын
Cool video - was always curious what was actually inside my pump - now I know!
@GoutamDAS-ls1wb2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your video and I think that your explanation of the way those metal shafts work on the rotor for squeezing out air is spot on! I am wondering if what spares are available for that pump (realize your intention was to disassemble to learn) to get it working again. Those 2 metal flaps would be one--would the metal plates on the rotor be the other--it seems that eventually the edges would wear down. The motor seems to be good.
@diakrisis13 жыл бұрын
Vacuum pump tear up is more accurate
@middleway1885 Жыл бұрын
Aww... no clips of the drilling... did you wiggle it much, or did you just put pressure on it? Thanks for keeping it real...
@HughMcVea4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable video Bill, thanks for making it. I was expecting a Piston Pump rather than the Positive Displacement Pump.
@patrickjholguin44474 жыл бұрын
Those small rectangular metal parts are called vanes.
@DetectingArizona4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't look like it would be to hard to rebuild it. Might try to do one.
@joshuabest1004 жыл бұрын
This actually reminds me of the wankel rotary engine
@alriv44 Жыл бұрын
Do you have the wiring diagram?
@HVACRSurvival4 жыл бұрын
I liked the video Bill 👍👍. I wondered how the cheaper ones were built so cheap.
@urayys2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to tear one of these down. Sorry you had to destroy the small retainer. Curious to know if you ever put it back together and figured out the puzzle pcs.
@samename39262 жыл бұрын
I have this same pump...it's not pulling a vac. Turns on runs good but no vac . What do I do to fix this?
@watcherwatchmen7785 Жыл бұрын
@@samename3926 Check the plastic flexible link that connects the motor to the pump underneath. It might be stripped out like mine was. 13.00 part. My pump was running but no vacuum. Apparently these linkages are designed to break to save the more expensive parts from damage. Also, change your oil with fresh stuff.
@samename3926 Жыл бұрын
@@watcherwatchmen7785 that was the problem easy fix thx
@watcherwatchmen7785 Жыл бұрын
@@samename3926 Awesome man, glad I was able to help.
@joshuabest1004 жыл бұрын
Why don't you keep that motor around for maybe a rainy day when one 0ump has a motor failure
@hartsfire57064 жыл бұрын
grate tare down . looks the same as the larger pumps i worked on for a few years.
@71sc5023 жыл бұрын
Im a professional vacuum pump tech. That plate is a splash plate that prevents the valves from splashing oil from where it shouldnt go. Those arent reeds, they're exhaust valves.
@dalethomasdewitt3 жыл бұрын
Reed valves. They sound like reeds, they quack like reeds, so they're reeds. Listen to the banter and you'll concur on such colloquial nomenclature. The part isn't sold separately on the cheap ones. Cutting your own with appropriate sheet might be doable. Not sealing tight reduces effectiveness obviously.
@kevinvt41744 жыл бұрын
Or was that both sides of a 2 stage pump?
@neilyoung30804 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video. Glad we can learn together.
@loretolaurente53693 ай бұрын
420 iveco vacuum pump,how to remove water seal
@Peter_S_4 жыл бұрын
Is the little rotor in the front an oil pump?
@curioushvacguy68764 жыл бұрын
I would say sort of, it slings the oil and uses it to seal the vanes as they extend out during its rotation. I believe anyway
@jeffreymurdock83663 жыл бұрын
Those slats of metal are called vanes. Kinda cool how that stuff works
@KG-yn9qi4 жыл бұрын
Nope I do not know any more than you! Nice to see what's inside. Thank you was interesting. They probably make a repair kit, but unless know how to mic up for clearances to know what has to be replaced. Cheaper to buy a new one? Good job!
@RJMaker4 жыл бұрын
LOL 6:03 Now that is classic Curious HVAC Guy.. Cracked me up.. Thanks for the video and the laugh...
@71sc5023 жыл бұрын
6:51 I was like yeeeeeee nooooo please dont lol
@randylong90452 жыл бұрын
Good job man!
@daveblane64424 жыл бұрын
NO "T" HANDLES??
@Heavy_metal_rulez4 жыл бұрын
Cool video curious vacuum pump guy!
@twincam825 Жыл бұрын
learned how to destroy a vacuum pump .
@pacearrow46202 жыл бұрын
its like a mazda rotary engine with apex seals. I bet just by replacing those "apex" seals the pump will be renewed
@Ronnie019642 жыл бұрын
Hey what do have here...a sharp dressed man!
@throttlebottle59064 жыл бұрын
lol @ "cutout 37 minutes of me spinning this thing"
@davegeorge70943 жыл бұрын
Vacuum pump problems suck, how do you fix a nothing=vacuum. Look for tiny leaks.
@smalljobrob64324 жыл бұрын
Grainger carriers all parts very reasonable prices. Only us Black Gold JB oil.
@71sc5023 жыл бұрын
I rebuild pumps for a living. not really these kinds. These arent worth the time for what we do, but i work on Edward's pumps ect.
@Eddy634 жыл бұрын
Good one Bill ... Looks like some hackers in the comment section ...
@sterlingarcher464 жыл бұрын
Man when you see how much oil gets trapped inside, how are we meant to purge the old contaminated oil ever ?
@throttlebottle59064 жыл бұрын
change it often, so the contamination is minimal?
@heavydiesel4 жыл бұрын
Get a cap from the oil can and fill it, then run the pump and carefully suck the oil and air through the inlet to the pump where you gauge line goes. Doesn't really need doing unless the pump is contaminated. Also, if its really dirty, put fresh oil in and run it until warm and change it again, repeat until you are happy and the oil comes out clean.
@sterlingarcher464 жыл бұрын
@@heavydiesel Cheers for that 👍 . I wish they made it easier like the Fieldpiece one where you just have a tap to open and voila !
@dalethomasdewitt3 жыл бұрын
The vapor pressure of the refined oil is the crux of all rotary vane oil pumps. Want vacuum. Replace oil. Simple but a bitch.
@rickyhertz72504 жыл бұрын
Release the shamooo all over your healing bench
@davegeorge70943 жыл бұрын
Clean oil is only way here for deep vacuum.
@kcomfortsystemshvac70604 жыл бұрын
Nice video,,,,I am going to tear down ,,my vacuum pump ,,now !,,, 😂
@IFIXCASTLES4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.
@throttlebottle59064 жыл бұрын
rookie mistake not having it inside a catch pan! I knew it would lube the whole bench and worse :)) oh-well lol
@curioushvacguy68764 жыл бұрын
sometimes I learn things the hard dumb way
@throttlebottle59064 жыл бұрын
@@curioushvacguy6876 that's how everyone learns! well, except the college sheeple that think their degree makes them perfect, they tend to learn when fired or dead :)))
@craighardey37514 жыл бұрын
Vanes
@harrydickson45754 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@cliveramsbotty60774 жыл бұрын
i'm so sick of people saying they drank some coffee. well done you drink coffee. who gives a shit.
@curioushvacguy68764 жыл бұрын
Im drinking coffee right now
@lordjaashin3 жыл бұрын
@@curioushvacguy6876 thats why spent 37 minutes spinning that thing lol