Vagner Rocha vs Craig Jones

📌 May 31th / 🇺🇸 Portland, USA
#SUG14 #SUG #bjj

[@danieldelanoche2015]

Listening to Chael talk leglocks from such an obvious beginner's perspective is simultaneously fun and annoying. Only the GOAT can walk such a line.

[@bigdumbidiot5357]

@Harvey Alaric Wow loser

[@GregHuffman1987]

he doesn't care to rub legs with another man. hes a republican

[@josephpeat]

Chael actually let Craig beat him in a match before so I’m sure he has a lot of respect for him

[@sinshkmma]

The refree fucking named Rocha as winner at the end😂🥴

[@GregHuffman1987]

cool of these 2 to provide a visual element to accompany Chael's commentary

[@juntjoonunya9216]

Lol

[@elcapitanandy]

in Craig we trust 🇦🇺

[@CesarChin3]

Amen

[@ankushchowdhury2217]

Those entries from de la riva is a thing of beauty❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@newbritainpauly4841]

This was a great match ! Really high level stuff.

[@juiceman7649]

Commentary was Gold classic Chael lol

[@kobe51]

Did that referee smell like beer and cigarettes?

[@LIONTAMER3D]

7:11 i like his description of boxing "fake a jab to throw a jab" that is some next level boxing IQ lol

[@artvandelay2591]

Chael still traumatized by seeing Vinny get his leg mangled.

[@11Khalid11]

The worst thing about this competition is Chael's commentary

[@GregHuffman1987]

the worst thing about this commentary is the grapples taking away from chaels voice

[@gustavovilela8058]

2:36 tecnica secreta mil anos de dor.

[@Lonelyheartshotline_]

Chael please stop commentating forever

[@dr.ahnisekassab4595]

Hahaha i was thinking the same thing. Shit was cringey

[@catbangs276]

seriously. I was thinking of joining FightPass for the jiu jitsu, but if Chael is the commentator, no thanks.

[@Abbassis15]

lmao why , he did sound biased against craig this match

[@enricopucci7413]

Came here after Ryan announce and I am so disapointed this dude Vagner isn't material to face Ryan please Roger Gracie came back to give us the Roger VS Gordon we all want to see

[@mensrea1251]

Meh, the terms of a match like that would be pretty complicated. Gordon probably has upper hand over Roger in no gi while the opposite is true for gi. So, yeah, it would have to be set up in way to minimize controversy afterwards regardless of results. Maybe one match in each format? It would risk an inconclusive result if each won one, but maybe that’s as close to the truth of a Gordon v Roger BJJ match anyway… anyway it’s a match I would break quarantine and pay the fine to watch.

[@juntjoonunya9216]

Other than spider web and back mount for over time is there a third leg advantage position that could be offered? I think that is what these EBI rules format needs. A 3rd leg advantage position

[@charlieaydin1377]

Our pride and joy 🇦🇺

[@mathewgladden8914]

Lol chael is hilarious

[@wp8767]

Was Craig accusing Vagner of being greased? That was a weird moment.

[@Steven-rp8zo]

I love to see Vagner smashing that stupid butt scoot attack. That move alone is killing competition grappling and keeping it from more of a mainstream appeal. "hey guys, lets go watch the fights where these guys butt scoot after each other all night!"

[@elginger5215]

Don’t watch grappling then

[@artvandelay2591]

Craig Jones with some tight defense from the back.

[@tapuout101]

Craig Jones is #2 in the World

[@perrypelican9476]

That overtime thing is ridiculous. Jiu jitsu should be 20 minute rounds of submission only. Keep going until there is a submission. Then you find out who is the better grappler. If it is close then fitness can win. But the grappler with the most skill is likely to win most of the time in submission only. This overtime thing doesn't prove anything. Just to have a winner every match is not my idea of how to do it. You want a ruleset that is better for the better athlete. Do you want a ruleset that helps the less skilled grapplers? Well, that is what this overtime system is. Useless!

[@rochahouse4883]

Screw the rounds, just have them roll until one taps.

[@igipop14]

No one wants to watch a two hour match with stalling. Let them do that in private. Any televised match needs to make money and you don't make it when one match lasts that long.

[@jsl8461]

@Chocolatito Maravilla I think a lot of people do not like no time limits. You have to pace yourself, which means less activity all around. I'm a pretty big grappling fan and I have absolutely zero interest in no time limits unless it's some crazy awesome match-up like Roger Gracie coming back to compete against Gordon Ryan. I get that there are people who do want to see no time limits but I think that's a pretty small market.

[@mensrea1251]

I get what you’re saying and it’s what a purist would say so I respect that… but it’s pretty impractical and would ensure that bjj remain a super niche sport. Early days UFC was no rounds, no weight classes, no time limits and all in one day. It’s romantic and manly, but it proved unwatchable for all but the hardcore fans. It took rounds, weight classes, rules to allow UFC to take off. Packaging matters in the real world.

[@kommisar.]

@@mensrea1251 It doesn't matter what the rules are. There are never going to be any that satisfy both the purists and the fans who want entertainment.

[@adaptiveagile]

Good match. Not sure I’m feeling the contest’s seatbelt setup for overtime, but hey.

[@aplus1080]

EBI overtime rules.

[@contraproduction8778]

if craig is touching your leg...

[@arturofm1477]

Incredible how Vagner negated the leg lock from the leg lock master.

[@gamessportsandmore3371]

he never really got entangled.

[@Bugpickerlicker]

@@gamessportsandmore3371 that’s the best way to defend it

[@gamessportsandmore3371]

@@Bugpickerlicker fair enough. But Gordon and Craig could go balls deep on each other and defend it technically and not disengage the moment their leg is touched.

[@AJ-rg4nt]

@@gamessportsandmore3371 - LOL, they wouldn't let the other person get that deep. The correct defence is to shut it down early, just like Rocha did. That's what Jones and Ryan would do.

[@gamessportsandmore3371]

@@AJ-rg4nt I have seen on a few rare occasions people go deep on Gordon with a leg lock and he has never been in any kind of danger.

[@sheeparebillygoats7221]

Dammit chael... HUSH.... trying to hear the ref but I cant cus of that running mouth.

[@danodesigndanomotion2068]

Wagner have no chance to ryan

[@gamessportsandmore3371]

Nobody does.

[@danodesigndanomotion2068]

@Rill Music hahahahaha

[@kalikaputra]

Really? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZWuZ55om79kjrM

[@huilton]

@@gamessportsandmore3371 Felipe Pena did twice

[@gamessportsandmore3371]

@@huilton 4.YEARS.AGO.

[@Hazama91350]

That overtime thing is shitty.

[@RtsSven]

Can someone explain the ending? Seems like the commentator was saying CJ made VR tap, because he had something in the bottom half (legs?), yet I didn't see a tap and/or any submission hold by CJ.

[@josephjuarez7548]

CJ made VR tapped in the bottom half of the over time with a rnc (maybe a neck crank) That’s what Chael Sonnon, the commentator, meant by bottom half

[@RtsSven]

@@josephjuarez7548 Thanks, I get it now. I was confused because i thought VR had untill the end of the timer running to tap CJ.

[@romeopetrucciarpegio]

2:19

[@wisemanbjj91]

Now we know he was all juiced up !

[@Andreas_linden]

Great comentary!

[@cvblaylock]

Chael’s voice is like nails on a chalkboard.

[@sharkparty1027]

Greaser for the lose!

[@jodylowe8476]

chaels jit jitsu commentary is terrible

[@felipereis5865]

who won?

[@bronze5158]

craig jones

[@dirkeaton6905]

I just turned the sound off. Much better

[@candylord5363]

Rocha ADV Jones

[@shoto520]

Wait..this is grappling not fighting🤔

[@saninmw3]

for vagner is savegery but for craig its grapling hahahha what an ASSHOLE

[@mariadoralice2101]

Vagner Rocha the best

[@inquisitorsneed2]

Gordon will smash him

[@gnatboy2762]

dirtiest*

[@steverogers7601]

What was Craig complaining about with Vagner’s shins?

[@forwardgrappling]

said he was slippery (as in oil or vaseline was applied to avoid leg locks) but Vagner apparently just shaved his legs

[@jking5772]

Idiot ref declared the wrong winner. It definitely takes a little something away when that happens.

[@alonxgmalonxgm8682]

2:20 name of the move?

[@djdankmemes9257]

ehhh it's like an arm underhook de la riva with like an x guard hook sweep. it's kind of a mix of things there but essentially he's capturing the knee to place Vagner's body weight on top of him.

[@kallepikku4991]

Boring AF. Only good think about this match was the commentary.

[@deanodebo]

Uncle chael

[@koalaofdeath2045]

Fucking impressed by Rocha. Kind of confused that he let that happen in OT. Love Craig as well but really though Vagner would tap him if it got to OT

[@alexandrinz]

Jogo chato demais esse do gringo de ficar atacando só perna, pegando no pé. Eles estão fazendo o grapling ficar sem graça, maçante

[@benhallo1553]

Chaels commentary is so bad hahaha

[@joelyons3869]

creg

[@jonpulgar4407]

bs commentary

[@joelarmour]

craig's face would be bloody in that first minute. combat jj or nothing

[@ubermensch9688]

Tf man 😅

[@t_rok]

Guard pullers zzz

[@JMSkoyles]

This announcer is annoying

[@paulcormos1601]

what a shitshow !:))

[@t.d6379]

The sport isn’t going anywhere with heel hooks.

[@nazarethproductions7095]

Actually it is, Ibjjf is what’s causing the problem.

[@omoplata10]

What do you mean? What I see is in 5 or so years everyone will know how to heel hook and will know how to defend it. Things will get competitive again. No more Craig Jones and Gordon Ryan winning every match

[@95goa]

@David Masters 'fuck bjj im a brown belt' ok you lost me there bud

[@TheBriRu]

Funny how all comments are about how much chael sucks. Btw. this is bs bjj. They should just allow punches once the delariva or half guard is achieved.

[@TheBriRu]

@Kommisar i thought bjj was invented for fighting scenarios, mr. helio gracie.

[@candylord5363]

Rocha ADV Jones

[@chasevaughn7767]

2:20