Valerie Solanas - The Woman Who Shot Andy Warhol, and the Author of "The SCUM Manifesto"

[@adamesd3699]

This analysis is missing a few important details. First, Andy Warhol was gay. He was several other things as well. Pretty much none of Valerie Solanas‘s descriptions of men applied to Warhol. Second, Warhol had had a lot of problems with the police. They considered a lot of his work politically subversive and some of it pornographic. Warhol knew that and was worried about getting arrested. He’d been repeatedly raided, so he was right to be worried. Solanas wanted Warhol to publish her work. He took one look at it her stuff and thought she was either nuts or a police informer trying to set him up. In either case, he knew that publishing her work would likely get him arrested. That’s why he kept delaying and “lost” her manuscript. He was hoping to buy her off by having her act in one of his films, where he, as the director, could control what she said and did and make sure she didn’t say or do anything that would get him arrested. Solanas didn’t see or didn’t care that Warhol was just trying to protect himself and felt he was just another man controlling and disappointing her. Out of this anger, and to get some notoriety and fame, she shot him. I read the SCUM Manifesto in college, along with a variety of other works. I’m sure a lot of the authors were drunk and/or on drugs when they wrote. The people who write stuff like this are interesting, but are generally pretty broken. They were harmed, they harm themselves, and they harm others. Ticking time bombs in human form. Handle with care and keep at arm’s length. Which is what Andy Warhol tried, but failed, to do. What Valerie Solanas wrote was not satire.

[@veganbutterfly3652]

Being gay or transgender male (men wanting to be women)...doesn't prevent men from being misogynistic.

[@Stevenbfg]

@@veganbutterfly3652 Why are defending a femcel who tried to murder not just Warhol but a random security guard as well (the gun jammed)?

[@Alice-ot5hc]

That is true, but trans men are ftm. You mean trans women (mtf) and trans women are not men that want to be women. This is clumsy language, an over simplification and problematic

[@Alice-ot5hc]

​​​@@veganbutterfly3652I've seen A LOT of misogyny in the gay male community, i'm not saying trans women can't be misogynistic, cis women can be sexist (coz of internalised sexism) and that's common and I've seen it a lot, so i'm not saying trans women can't be sexist but I've never seen it, all the trans women I know are feminists, however I have come across many misogynistic gay men before, I've seen gay men sexually harass and sexually assault women as a 'joke' before because they aren't actually sexually attracted to them, they think it's therefore fine and allowed to grab a woman's genitals without consent and other stuff, like 'I'm not sexually interested in you, therefore i'm allowed to touch you or speak to you however I want coz it's not real' of course this is dehumanising, disrespectful, violating boundaries bullshit

[@Alice-ot5hc]

Also she said she was sexually abused by her father and grandfather. Of course her trauma inevitably shaped her outlook

[@R.A.Melltaya]

I think Valerie Solanas was a bit of a nutcase and having unrealstic ideas of a "utopia." I think women will have different opinions about this, agreeing with her or finding it extreme and wrong. For me death is not a joke under no circumstances. You can argue if Valerie Solanas was a man and saying this sort of stuff and doing this stuff (especially today) she would be consider evil of thinking that. Why does it have to be justified in her book?

[@user-us1yu8gx9s]

because men already commit violence against women. They do basically everything she says in the book. It is literally tongue and cheek.

[@calistafalcontail]

"agreeing with her or finding it extreme and wrong." Dude...women who agree with her are unhinged. This woman was an ABSOLUTE nutcase and projected her intense hate on roughly 50% of the world population. She did exactly what she hated about men. People who agree with her need therapy.

[@Artician]

Nobody would bat an eye if she was a man.

[@Admin-qy4zi]

@@user-us1yu8gx9s all men already get bitten violence against all women? 😂

[@kmhob]

There are some interesting contradictions in the message of Solanas, that are never discussion by those who either praise the message or only review it. If you take what she writes literally, something she herself advocated, then women should be encouraged to carry out the biggest genocide in history, bigger than the holocaust or similar. As far as I know the book does not give any answers as to how this process is compatible with women having a greater capacity for empathy, positive emotions or wanting to create a society, greater than what men and women can create together? Will this new society be a democratic system of governance, based on humanist principles? I belive this society will have to deal with some problematic issues, built as it will be on a mountain of blood and death, a process that will not be able to divide between old and disabled, the young and beskt born. In this respect the text does not make women stand out differently from what can be called typical male atributes. Possibly, there is something more genuinely universal that expresses itself here, such as our common human propensity for violence or violent thoughts?

[@christopher5024]

you really think they thought it thru. A twisted mind had a hard time computing the "solutions"

[@grinnian7959]

Solance has never called for genocide. It's just that men are too stupid to understand what she's talking about. She calls for the destruction of the patriarchal identity of men (the man is the head of the family, the rapist, the aggressor, etc.) Apparently, for men not to be rapists and dominant and it's like being dead.-.

[@m_e_nere]

I'm confused. You say the book is satirical in the description. But the author said it was supposed to be taken seriously. So, why consider it satirical? Especially from someone with only negative experiences with men and was willing to murder someone. I also don't see what's so funny. Patriarchy is garbage, and I hate how in our patriarchal society, I have to be on a draft in case my country ever decides they need more soliders. But is a genocide really the way of solving it?

[@betotedeoro]

If the author says it's not satire then you're just gashlighting everyone just because You don't want to accept she was a mysandric nutcase

[@bungiecrimes7247]

The youtuber is a nutcase just ignore her.

[@RaidenMustDie3594]

So…basically she was the first incel, lol

[@bluemasquerade7491]

Pretty much

[@chuckscott4661]

No. It’s not possible for a woman to be involuntarily celibate, because a woman can have xes anytime she chooses.

[@RaidenMustDie3594]

@@chuckscott4661 yeah dude but when she does it she only being used, just like when men get used for their wallets. Being used for sex isn’t the paradise you think it is

[@chuckscott4661]

“ DanteMustDie @Chuck Scott yeah dude but when she does it she only being used, just like when men get used for their wallets. Being used for sex isn’t the paradise you think it is“ Dante, how is a woman being used/exploited if she is Voluntarily having xes for pleasure?

[@RaidenMustDie3594]

@@chuckscott4661 because they can also get attached to someone after an encounter, and after their partner doesn’t call them back after the encounter they see they’ve only been used for their body. That’s why you got so many of them complaining that everyone they sleep with just wanted them for fun and nothing serious. Look dude, when the time comes that you get a little action (I promise the time will come) you’re gonna fall in love and get attached to whoever gave you intimacy, and god forbid if they don’t want anything to do with you after that night, you’ll feel the pain I told you about

[@scottmasson3039]

I have no idea why people try to intellectualize Valerie’s place in history, or publish her book. It would be much better for society and fighting the patriarchy if we collectively promoted and published new women voices, instead of regurgitating V’s bs just because she got famous for shooting one of the most prolific and celebrated figures of the 20th Century. Valerie was damaged, and completely out of her got-damn mind by the late 60s. End of story. No dissertation necessary. She’s not a feminist hero at all. Her writing doesn’t “upset” me as a man either. As a queer man, I find her views on men moronic, crass, empty, and narcissistic. If anything, her writing and actions set feminism back a few years. I realize it’s “fun-in-a-retro-kinda-way” for modern people to bring her up as an feminist icon, but this is shit we should’ve buried (or “cancelled”) decades ago.

[@james-nw9up]

The "moronic, crass, empty, and narcissistic" outlooks she has it what makes this thing interesting. She obviously doesn't give to shits of a fuck

[@maryamdiao1509]

We have tried to fight the patriarchy and men have not evolved. Enough is enough. Men are pathetic

[@james-nw9up]

Lmao evolveddd. Ooga booga

[@mina4108]

stfu scott and stay out of women's business

[@watching7721]

Mainly because variations of her views have become more mainstream

[@manankaur5315]

This is the biggest hateful book I have ever seen As a feminist

[@Juan-zk3dl]

@Chris Jones Hate is a human trait that does not distinguish between sexes.

[@Juan-zk3dl]

You should read the Feminist Manifesto

[@bluemasquerade7491]

@Chris Jones sounds like a male feminist simp

[@RaidenMustDie3594]

@@electricfishfan no I think if someone makes a generalization based off of one bad experience that person should grow up, or get therapy

[@bluemasquerade7491]

@Chris Jones which books have men made that says terrible stuff about women gives me some names

[@dimitriosdrossidis9633]

Not a woman, but I really have to question , how a supposed call to kill all men could ever be characterised as Satire. Like, if you would write something about how we should for example eat all children or poor people, how am I supposed to read out it's Satire? Especially if the author is supposedly serious. With that being said, I can understand how people have a contempt for the world and many men.

[@CamiiW123]

I think what makes it satire is how closely it resembles what Freud said about women during his time. During the 60s and earlier, stuff like this was said about women frequently and it wasn't seen as satire, it was just the way women were viewed by society. But on the other hand, you're right in that it is very blatantly sexist against men and Solanas does make it very clear what her feelings towards men are. I suppose one also have to keep in mind that she was sexually abused for pretty much her entire life, so i suppose it's understandable where those feelings came from. Finally, I think a lot of feminist scholars wants to label it as satire, even though Solanas wrote it with the intention of it being taken seriously, because it did put into words what a lot of women felt during that time and by labeling it as satire, it's kind of justified in a way. That coupled with the fact that Solanas was diagnosed with schizophrenia makes it easier for others to view her work in a different light than Solanas would view it herself, if that makes sense. These are just my own thoughts about the matter though!

[@dimitriosdrossidis9633]

I can see what you mean and don't necessarily disagree with it, but I do wonder, the longer time goes on and we move away from the time period, how would future generations be able to tell. For example, I didn't see the angle of taking Freud's and other men views into account until I saw this video. It's interesting for me, because I feel a lot of sympathy and pity for solanas, but at the end of the day she sadly lashed out at someone who didn't deserve anything. In her mind, Andy Warhol was more of a threat than he ever intended, but while I can think she can be somewhat 'excused', I find myself horrified, at the amount of people today, that use this book as a genuine foundation of their political goals with no care for males and even more horrifying, at least in my opinion, the people who use this as an example to accuse women collectively of the worst things and reinforce the unjust structures of society. I am in no Position to judge, but I do question, how much can be excused thanks to the label of satire and if that actually makes the book any good? For me personally, from what I could find, it's more of a relic of bygone times to which I simply can't relate without any explanation. Thank you for this video.

[@jc-vt7sg]

I also think calling her work “satirical” is a cop-out; the woman was mentally-ill, so it’s totally plausible she would write these hateful things in earnest. That said, your examples are uniquely bad. One of the most famous works of satire, Swift’s “A Modest Proposal,” does in fact recommended eating children.

[@Jo-nb9eb]

@@CamiiW123 sexist against WHO

[@funicon3689]

It's A Modest Proposal

[@punkprimate]

what a great video! and I also laughed along with you 🤭

[@txbxrii]

The problem of the text is an excessive exaggeration of the good in women

[@onyabike4205]

One of the many problems yeah.

[@someperson9999]

Lol its also incoherent and explicitly genocidal.

[@MrWispy-bn2kp]

the first femcel

[@kaesmith2893]

How? She was a lesbian, not someone driven to violence believing men are denying her sex.

[@Admin-qy4zi]

@@kaesmith2893 because she behaved like one. 😂

[@_Meriwether]

Just so we're clear, this video essay comes across as you unashamedly idolising the murderous, mentally unwell hyper-misandist Solanas.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

If a dude wrote something like this all y'all twinkletoes would be fuming 😅

[@elleme-sq6hg]

Dues write things like this and do things like those, wake up and read some history

[@Iranoutofideasforachannelname]

​@@elleme-sq6hg example?

[@Iranoutofideasforachannelname]

​@@elleme-sq6hg Still waiting on that example

[@luciesai4448]

A man has no reason to hate women. However, women do. (I'm not justifying misandry. It just makes sense why some women would hate men because of the crimes committed against them by the opposite-sex.)

[@attilathegoon2986]

@@luciesai4448 This is exactly right. It is the same reason it makes sense that some White people hate Black people, what with the disproportionate crime they commit, right?

[@15halerobert]

I wonder if her vitriolic writing was due to the trauma she suffered in her earlier life.

[@Cornelious72]

Clearly

[@luciesai4448]

For sure

[@Admin-qy4zi]

Not an excuse

[@ediesedgwick4462]

After her Warhol assassination attempt, Solanas was incarcerated in a hospital for the criminally insane. That should tell you all you need to know about whether or not she has anything to say that's worth considering.

[@sajking7269]

Right, the US Justice system, famously trustworthy - especially when it comes to the treatment of marginalized people 😜

[@jacobsnapp]

@@sajking7269she did try to murder someone

[@someperson9999]

​@@sajking7269 must more trustworthy than some random nutcase who wrote a poorly written play and a rambling, dull, and repetitive "manifesto" that calls for genocide. Fans of Solanas are no different than fans of psychopaths like Andrew Tate.

[@Admin-qy4zi]

@@sajking7269 she was a white woman, how was she being marginalized? She had privileged just like all the other white people.

[@I_Hate_Atom_Eve]

Bruh she couldn't even successfully assassinate Andy Warhol how does she expect women to kill off all men LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣

[@not.spir0s]

once in Seattle i saw a license plate that said CHD1488.

[@I_Hate_Atom_Eve]

@@not.spir0s it was me.

[@lacene111]

If all women would realize that Valerie solanas is right, trust me .... world war would start

[@RealNormHall]

Bruh women can’t even kill themselves, how can they kill men lol

[@RmonK2000]

She's based af. Males are already k1lling themselves anyways

[@J.Sebastian.Cardenas_Piza]

amazing! thank you so much for this:)

[@AllenCarter1966]

My good friend, the late Bob Fustero, was Valerie's first cousin. Their mothers were sisters. Robert, in his own right, was revolutionary.

[@chrisleroux4328]

Feminism truly jumped the shark in the second wave.

[@maryamdiao1509]

Can u really blame her stance?

[@ded5630]

Yes

[@maryamdiao1509]

@@ded5630no

[@ded5630]

@@maryamdiao1509 I’m a reject virgin and I don’t become woman hating incel. Anyone can choose love over hate

[@maryamdiao1509]

@@ded5630 true but men don’t so I won’t

[@ded5630]

@@maryamdiao1509 no seriously can we not joke that’s pretty terrible. Everybody just wants to be loved and the answer to not being loved is not hate. Be the person that you would want to be with not the person that will never be with anyone. I’m still single but I’ll never stop trying to be kind and honest because no matter what others think of me I have security in myself. I want everybody to be able to have that. You too. It’s better that you be loving and others be hateful then everyone being hateful

[@beatnik111]

I would never treat women like that hack I want to be one I'm a feminist but I'm a hippie feminist I want men and women to live and understand each other and be best friends equality is important to me

[@Juan-zk3dl]

Read the Feminist Manifesto then Mein Kampf and let me know if you can still be a "hippy feminist".

[@Juan-zk3dl]

PS: Germany was completely screwed over after WW1. The Nazis thought they were victims as well. History repeats itself, the most horrible historical events have happened through "good intentions".

[@platinumart8901]

​@Chris Jones Women and men are equal

[@lacene111]

@@platinumart8901xy chromosomes says otherwise

[@susanpolice8465]

How's that working out for you? We already got our BODILY AUTONOMY Ripped away by THE MOST Corrupt Supreme Court in history...are we prepared for what's next?

[@susanpolice8465]

Thank You so much for this! Valerie has Always fascinated me since I heard of her.Sad,Tragic life...but Her voice lives on...Have you read,"Herland" by Charlotte Perkins Gilman? LOVE your content!

[@bungiecrimes7247]

Her voice died as soon as she took someone's life. Tf you on about?

[@veganbutterfly3652]

Thanks for presenting this!!!

[@donaldkingsbury5614]

great video- i love the SCUM Manifesto- i used to hand out copies to ppl in the mid 90s to ppl.

[@r3gret432]

You are basically a nazi but for men

[@wackyval6898]

She was like the prototype of the annoying KZbinr.....seeking fame at all costs.... so lame

[@Bezaar69]

The writer wanted a automated utopia fair enough however how was she going to execute that plan without men??? Was she going to Throw enough tampons at the problem until it solves it self.

[@CamiiW123]

Why would you need men specifically to achieve an automated utopia? I'm not condoning or saying I agree with what she wrote in her book, but like, I don't think men are as vital as you think they are...

[@Bezaar69]

@@CamiiW123 I too think men are not that important, apart from major technical breakthroughs if not all in the field of automation, I mean Who needs men to conceptualize, prototype, test, manufacture and optimise that manufacturing cause there are irefuitable historic evidence that radical Feminist writers have been factory floor manager since the genesis of time, and that is why Father of automation is called Norbert Wiener and the mother of automation is called "Standardisation".

[@painunending4610]

@@CamiiW123 Men are kind of vital if people want to reproduce. Or at least their sperm is

[@dimitriosdrossidis9633]

@@Bezaar69 I think what she means to say is women can also do this stuff, which fair enough they are, but damn, I want to live.

[@gordonmorris6359]

Carmii 'Too Dreadful for Metro': kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKepnKB_mLVjicU

[@libbychang413]

0:11 except for overthrowing the govt, this passage has become eerily prophetic...none of the points she made have yet come to full fruition...but were very close...complete automation is rapidly being realized, and the cashless economy is well within current technology...males are becoming increasingly irrelevant in this economy & except for the few extreme outliers that can keep up, they will soon be slaved & starved to death...

[@yawnandjokeoh]

Ive stolen several copies to give to friends/lovers, i think its great!

[@onyabike4205]

Youre a terrible friend and lover then. May as well give them a copy of Mein Kampf.

[@WBrizzle81]

I'm curious about her theory of a world without death and disease. Technically it's correct that you will no longer need reproduction, which also means you'll no longer two sexes. Would that end in the utopia that she predicts however? What advantage does sexual reproduction bestow that we'd lose? The dynamics of sexual reproduction lead to sexual dimorphism. I don't have much to add at this point, but I am incredulous that a non-reproductive species would be a perfect scenario.

[@FallenLA]

Hahaha a world of only woman, it would be hell. They can't tolerate each other, they hate each other... full of gossip, reputation destruction, envy, and more... it exist in today society, it would never change.

[@shiteyanyo1111]

The fact that there are so many men crying in the comments really says something.

[@R.A.Melltaya]

What do you mean?

[@SkittyBeeper]

Over the video or the book. The videos pretty good so idk why anyone would be angry. The book I could understand. It’s kinda stupid.

[@Iranoutofideasforachannelname]

This book is just mein kampf written for misandrists

[@maryamdiao1509]

Facts

[@Admin-qy4zi]

Just like how the Jews were crying over the holocaust? Idiot.

[@oscarmild2]

Thank you. Me and my friend are just about to record a podcast episode on Gone Girl, and I specifically wanted to make the Solanas-SCUM connection (which is how I found your video). I'm a man, mired in heteronormativity, so I may be more the audience's target than the target audience. But when a hateful text surfaces - so long as it is radical like Solanas' - I think listening intently will yield much needed insight; in this case, insight into everything, under and over, what "love" captures in the sexual relation/difference (or even mere "oppression"). I also think that the only way to access these hidden things/structures in a relation is to listen to the hater, suspending (and suspecting) value-judgments, as befits (to my mind) any interaction with a radical gesture such as this. And Solanas is an exquisite hater with an exquisite gesture, much like Flynn's Amy. There's much to learn there and I fear few have even begun to scratch the surface (though I like Avital Ronell's take on it). Thanks again! PS I find most echo to my feelings and views on this "matter" in 2nd wave feminism (Irigaray...); just in case you were wondering where I am coming from (and why). S.

[@CamiiW123]

I also instantly thought of Solanas when I heard the famous "cool girl" monologue from Gone Girl! I think texts like these have quite a bit of value, seeing as the "hate" is coming from an oppressed groups point of view. It's at least a very interesting read! I'm glad you liked my video!

[@whitneybays6522]

Id love to listen to your podcast if you made one, can you link it?

[@Medgator]

Hell is empty and all the devils are here

[@lesliemarie7438]

I totally agree with Valerie's description of men. She HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD with that one. She describe my EX-HUSBAND to a T & how men only care about pushy & money...AMEN AMEN TO THAT!!

[@axewieldingmilena]

Exactly. She hit the nail with every word. She was right about every word she wrote. The scum manifesto should be the bible for all women, so we can take over the world and take control over the men. We're already somewhat getting there. Women have started to dominate a lot of previously male dominated branches. So we're getting there. Slowly but steadily taking over the world and will start to dominate all men.

[@Assassin99584]

@@axewieldingmilenaso you are sexist

[@christopher5024]

misandry at its best!

[@joegambitt7414]

Tbh women love money more than men

[@bungiecrimes7247]

If she's good at writing men then I'm a god at writing woman. Want to review my fanfic I made when I was 12 years old little gal. 😂

[@Whitelivesmatter148ate]

Revoke the 19th

[@maryamdiao1509]

Not gonna happen

[@livinglux9107]

100% agree

[@Acrxzy1]

She was. Uts

[@veganbutterfly3652]

She was ahead of her time.

[@FallenLA]

she was nuts.

[@maryamdiao1509]

💯

[@juliadwiggins-jo3fo]

So i was raised to not hate and all that. Never looked down on women. To know so many legitimately want to end my life or just seriously get rid of my sex because they dont understand history??? Ik who im gunna target and let out all lifes pain on...... Women dont realize we the same. All the same things women face men do too. Even with providing. Men are supposed to provide for women traditionally while women provide for the children. Seeing how headstrong women are about doing this to men and knowing the only readon the female sex isnt sex slaves is because some men dont make them...... Pretty strange enemy to make. Shouldn't threaten lives unless you want others to take it seriously. This is when i made my choice.

[@maryamdiao1509]

What are you even saying?

[@Admin-qy4zi]

@@maryamdiao1509 in the first part of his comment he says that being raised to hate is not a good idea.

[@Marea_Roja]

She brings up really good points, just not the bioessentialism

[@ThomasMullaly-do9lz]

The Society of Cutting Up Men

[@dimon3098]

Ah yea su funny. Disgust simply disgusting

[@axewieldingmilena]

The funny thing about the book is though that she was right. In every word she wrote.

[@christopher5024]

oh please. pile of horseshit.

[@clarkbowler157]

Do you really think so, Milanis?

[@R.A.Melltaya]

You really think that?

[@notvcinema8741]

No she wasn't. While in the womb, only one of their X chromosomes are activated. The only affect the Y chromosome has is purely physical, while the X chromosome has both a physical and physical, effect on the person. The whole idea that the Y chromosome is malformed is complete nonsense. The closest someone could come to have a malformed chromosome is having something like fragile X syndrome.

[@maryamdiao1509]

@@notvcinema8741the Y chromosome is a defect low value and a curse to Mother Earth