Valiant Hearts :The Nivelle Offensive

"Disaster of extraordinary magnitude" -Indy Neidell

[@NinjaLobsterStudios]

When I got to the end of the level, I was so angry at the commander. Assuming I wouldn't be able to, I ran at him and swung my shovel to pretend to hit him. I expected to just swipe the air. I was completely shocked when the shovel actually connected. The level had successfully guided me into mutiny without giving me any goals. I will never forget this game.

[@wackyotter1235]

I remember after doing what you described trying to see if there was a alternate ending I think both our actions are legendary lol.

[@ntfoperative9432]

@@wackyotter1235 from what I know the only thing that happens if you don't hit him right there is that he will shove the last few soldiers into the machine gun fire

[@iqstrats1250]

At the end I was compelled to salute in French style when he was executed- it may have been one of the few games to truly break my heart

[@khalidasum8300]

Hey i love your comment mate!

[@Stephenson--ce1no]

General Robert Nivelle claimed that offensive would accomplish in 48 hours and 10,000 casualties, but in reality, 187,000 casualties for French, 160,000 casualties for British, and 160,000 casualties for German. Beside these, Nivelle Offensive spent 24 days. Why did french soldiers mutiny ? Because their living conditions were "EXTREMELY BAD" and they suffered from the Battle of Verdun (that spent 10 months) and the Battle of Somme. Nivelle Offensive triggered french soldiers. However, when the mutiny had been suppressed, general Philippe Pétain (Lion of Verdun) promised the soldiers for improved their living conditions. French Government rehabilitated the mutineers in 1994. 77 years after the mutiny.

[@dopsgaming8796]

A lot of general at the time dreamed of doing an “all out 1 time knock blow to the enemy to win the war”, it always fails. Especially a lot of the generals failed to properly capitalise on new technology.

[@dopsgaming8796]

The soldiers were pushed to the limit until they mutinied and refuse to “go over the top”.

[@Stephenson--ce1no]

This offensive makes soldiers mutiny for pointless war.

[@CheQuinnvaraRules]

He also promised that he'd stopped the offensive if things got too hairy or it failed to achieve it's goals after the first two days. To add insult to injury pretty much every other general, the minister of war and the whole French government were skeptical of the offensive as it was slapped together without and care for the details. Nivelle should've counted his lucky stars the soldiers were still willing to man the trenches and defend their country, in my opinion they should've demanded Nivelle be either court martialed or be stripped of rank.

[@Stephenson--ce1no]

@@CheQuinnvaraRules General Nivelle was just fired from chief of staff and sent to North Africa. French gouvernement did not punish or jail him.

[@internetstrangerstrangerofweb]

Even for a cartoon this was an EXTREMELY dark portrayal of the war. Was without a doubt the most memorable scene in the entire game.

[@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s]

It's a game, not a cartoon.

[@internetstrangerstrangerofweb]

@@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s The game is clearly portrayed in a cartoony style. The point stands.

[@itsblitz4437]

Not to mention the music made feel so dark and gritty.

[@username3788]

@@internetstrangerstrangerofweb nope point doesnt stand, there are plenty of animations that are even more horrific than this, just because something is a cartoon doesnt automatically restrict it from being "dark"

[@internetstrangerstrangerofweb]

@@username3788 ????? Who said otherwise? The game was no where near as graphic until it reached this point.

[@yuuka4964]

What disturbed me the most was the mountain of bodies. So many lives used as cannon fodder.

[@MrMaro1995]

Well... If you watch carefully in one moment you use a cart full of bodies as a cover from enemy fire.

[@generalprincecodyhedgewolf2944]

That’s war for you I’ve seen corpses before I’ve blown tanks up before even soldiers in Toy Soldiers High definition

[@xxxCODExxx1]

The mutineers were honestly justified in abandoning their post. The Neville offensive was incredibly ass backwards throwing hoards of men into a literal killing zone with no strategy.

[@dopsgaming8796]

Yup all they want is no more suicidal assault. They are still willing to fight defensively against the Germans

[@Stephenson--ce1no]

Sadly, Mutineers were rehabilitated in 1990s, over 70 years from This offensive

[@iqstrats1250]

Sounds like what the Russians did in WWII tbh

[@GloriG_C17]

@@iqstrats1250 They have no Choice, They Called Backwards People by the Entire Europe, No Crops, Water, Food, No Weapons, Vehicles, And Armored Vehicles. They Still Use Bi-Plane in Early War. They are Poor People. But this is France, Who Have Everything Except Tactics of War.

[@erdachtzumuntergang]

@@iqstrats1250 they didn't.

[@aggimajera]

I kind of knew where this was going at the start, but then it just didn’t stop. The slaughter kept going, and going, and *going* with no sign of slowing down. Every step of the way, there was the officer in the rear. By the time we reached the end, it became incredibly obvious what needed to be done to save ourselves from joining the mountains of corpses surrounding us. At that point, when the officer fired on our own terrified men to keep them moving into death, it became clear who the enemy truly was.

[@botmexicanpatriot]

The saddest part of this is how even the narrator ironically said " *Once again* , it was to be the battle that would bring an end to the war"

[@USSBOAT]

2:25 I love when the music takes a darker tone as soon as you see the lines of German machine gunners and mountains of dead soldiers, very ominous

[@BaronVonMott]

I think what really makes this level so impactful is that your character has to use piles of bodies for cover, and then by the end the floor is a literal carpet of even more corpses. It really drives home the brutality of the slaughter - you can only make it because so many others have already fallen.

[@antoniodelaugger9236]

using bodies as covers had always been a tactic once firearms developed. there's paintings from the napoleonic wars where skirmishers used dead bodies as cover

[@lonewolf7761]

Even worse is that if you try to go back after getting up you find that the path backwards is littered with a wall of fresh bodies

[@ostaruempire]

*The painful screams of soldiers dying left and right throughout the field, the piles of dead soldiers who didn't even get to fight the enemy, fellow comrades dying before you, the helpless honorable groups of soldiers who meet their demise while your group lives on, the fact that there's wounded men trapped under the corpses of their fallen brethren, ruthless officers and generals throwing away their soldiers lives for a poorly calculated offensive.* Jesus... It makes tears leak out of my eyes just by seeing this massacre...

[@snowyaegis3875]

Its almost infuriating seeing that commander show up again and again, entirely unscathed, driving you forward with a wave of his sword and pistol after narrowly evading death time and time again as your team slowly thins, as though never even seeing a German. But I suppose that's the point.

[@claudcopter9784]

I love how during the parts where your fighting the Baron, it feels better. Sure it's still war, but the game uses a brighter color palette, and horrible disaster hasn't struck for the main 4 quite yet. You don't even think how people are still dying, just that you and Freddie are kicking ass. But once the Baron is beaten, it gets more horrific and depraved in the last chapter. Without even telling you, the game shows, primarily most in this level, that the war can't possibly be beaten by beating up some random villain. War is the villain. Fucking amazing storytelling.

[@ShasOSwoll]

3:32 i like how Spectacles helps take down the barricade

[@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s]

Moral of the story: Never repeat what you have planned before.

[@satriadicky3732]

Why cant these guy use guerilla warfare instead?

[@silvertemplar8061]

@@satriadicky3732 Hope it was like maze warfare you had open ground like this, it was an impossibility.

[@satriadicky3732]

@@silvertemplar8061 hmmm yea you right

[@saulgoodmansentme1992]

@@satriadicky3732 you don't know what guerilla warfare is.

[@pinkpuppy3415]

@@satriadicky3732 bruh

[@UsaKen_PMC]

_"Video games and cartoons are just for kids!"_ Video games with cartoonish style: **Shows the dark reality of war**

[@Mahsei]

What would one consider a good soldier after all... The person who saves his comrades but fails the mission? Or the one who succeeds the mission, at the cost of many ally lives? Valiant Hearts is an amazing game of how differing human moral is and the terrors of war.

[@ntfoperative9432]

Good soldiers follow orders

[@BiggerBossN313]

@@ntfoperative9432the nightmares there finally over

[@rangergxi]

@@ntfoperative9432 "Just following orders" is a morality system one would best not follow.

[@nathanhosea489]

​@@ntfoperative9432 Execute Order 66

[@black-uh1df]

Good soldiers follow orders. Great soldiers know when to tell their commanders to shove it

[@xtxownage]

My only question is how this officer is still alive for Emile to hit him.

[@quirkyusername1093]

He's the same guy that got blown to shit during the car sequence.

[@sinctova]

@@quirkyusername1093 Bumblebee?

[@dobremarian1234]

@@quirkyusername1093 That's General Nivelle en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Nivelle

[@jaystrickland4151]

German Snipers were told under no circumstances to shoot French Officers as they demoralized the French soldiers.

[@jaystrickland4151]

@vexillarius3356 Sir I was being cheeky

[@Centaura_Node]

This final battle is now showing the realities of war, the dark and dread among the soldiers, Bodies are everywhere, it shows the aftermath of the battle. When the first battle of game, there were only bodies with no arms and legs of the French soldiers, no blood, but in the Nivelle Offensive it have now shown blood around the pile of Corpse

[@p_filippouz]

Just finished the game This level really made me look at the screen in pure horror for what I was seeing, "no, no this is wrong! This is madness!" I've never seen a game with so many dead bleeding bodies on the ground, and to remember that this actually happened just left me with pure horror. The best game I've ever played

[@ERIK-457]

I think this is the reason why most games limit the amount of corpses abd blood, appart of fps of course

[@nicko7234]

I cannot find anything on the entire internet about this theme of this level, and it is bothering me, the theme of this level is so fitting!

[@nicko7234]

Edit: I found it

[@2-dcat28]

@@nicko7234 what is it

[@nicko7234]

Debris Field by Gregor Narholz

[@GoofyGoober191]

can you send a link???

[@dobremarian1234]

@@GoofyGoober191 there You go kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZm3dKxtgbiebpI

[@theredspy3579]

I can't help but feel bad for the little group of Men you take along with you- each one probably just wanting to go back home only to get sent back out there by their officer before getting gunned down again.

[@zlatko8051]

War is hell.

[@dopsgaming8796]

“War never changes”

[@zlatko8051]

Brent Dye And also my intestines are on the other side of the floor

[@bludeuce3855]

and sometimes war is inevitable

[@gigachaf6986]

War makes men mad

[@phucvinh2883]

France soldiers are lions when officers are donkeys. This game show them all that is true.

[@historyinoutline4785]

but remember men the war will be over by Christmas and not drag out into one of the most brutal conflicts in human history

[@dopsgaming8796]

*Those bastards lied to me* meme

[@GamerFozzy]

I think what makes this level truly horrific is at 4:30 where you're literally using a pile of bodies as cover and climbing a mountain of bodies

[@jasrajdhillon2658]

I want to thank the creators of this game and Battlefield 1: both devs made those games so realistic, and it showed us just a tiny spec of the horrific nature of the "Great" War. They gave us a form of entertainment, as we tackled the challenges in Valiant Hearts and fought massive operations in BF1, but in the end, the war is just bloody gruesome and pointless to the extent that they shouldn't have been such a sick war. I truly believe in order to achieve peace, we must accept the brutality of the past and make amends to ensure the past doesn't repeat itself

[@soniavallejos3039]

For all the ppl who support a war or believe than go to a war is the right thing...i will tell them to play this game. I never seen a war as the same after this game. A truly masterpiece

[@willthorson4543]

How do you know if you haven't been to war? This is just a game. Go watch all quite on the western front or a very long engagement. As to war? Sometimes you are forced into it by an enemy that attacks you. You defend your family, home, fellow citizens, and country.

[@soniavallejos3039]

@@willthorson4543 It's not just a game, it's art.

[@someonewhospams0w0inchat16]

@@willthorson4543 you obv didnt play this game

[@Yes-vx2un]

Just the coloring of the characters, oh man I love it. The Germans being the faceless enemy that brings death and destruction, the common soldier being grey and worn by the war, and the officer maintaining his clean outfit showing how he isn't the one who is really fighting yet he pushes those who fight into suicidal situations.

[@baronguyperson]

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but the Officer pressing the player along reminded me of General Mireau from Paths of Glory. Had both a similar looking scar and a blatant disregard for the lives of his men

[@ciprianocanda9405]

I wonder after the war what happened to all those bodys after the neville offense

[@dopsgaming8796]

Most likely physically injured like losing a leg or limbs or suffering ptsd as they witness hell on earth. Those who survived will have to fight again in 1940

[@ciprianocanda9405]

@@dopsgaming8796 jeez i though they would retired already

[@satriadicky3732]

Become homeless? That seems to be a trend for western country where their soldiers returned homeless or jobless after a war.

[@dobremarian1234]

@@ciprianocanda9405 you can't retire fighting its a law there

[@mileskessler2905]

Those intact were interred in cemeteries around the area. Few bodies remained intact, so the majority currently rot in bits and pieces underground after being shredded by continuous artillery.

[@gameoverxcx7740]

The thing that intrigued me most about the mission was that we were 3-4 meters away from the Germans and that they suddenly appeared to be radiating from the hills, not from the trenches. It confused me.

[@Creeper_ofDoom]

I was playing Valiant Hearts yesterday with 5 Other people on a 4K tv and i remember how rage inducing this mission was, primarily because how it turns out

[@adolfgaming1761]

What a pointless war this was..

[@dopsgaming8796]

This was called “the war to end all wars” but it ended up creating more wars after it’s over. The worst part is that there has been many opportunities where it could’ve been avoided too.

[@ozgurertural6363]

I have this game complete

[@damiencrossley7497]

The level that tears our hearts out!

[@Unserline]

Even now, the France didnt give the oficial pardon to soldier in Nivelle battle, they are so ingrate to these soldiers how fight so many times to them

[@n1kolayt289]

War Makes Men Mad...

[@jiaxunliu8181]

That commander and General Niville should be Court-martial

[@elyisuxd1440]

I still don't understand one thing, and that is that when I look for how Nivelle died, he tells me in 1924 of cancer and in the game he interprets that he died in the same offensive

[@ntfoperative9432]

That wasn’t Neville, that was just another officer

[@MichitaroNaito]

This is an excellent mission to learn the glory of war and some others.

[@p_filippouz]

Glory of war?! There's NO glory in war, NONE

[@AlexanderMikhailov629]

@@p_filippouz Yeah idk that really sounds weird. If anything, it shows the only glory you’ll get from war is that you’re dying.

[@thegeneralvilla2784]

​@@p_filippouz Glory of war is a term usually used in an ironic way to refer to the brutality, or he also probably refers to the glory of Emile doing his best, and sacrificing himself to free his comrades.

[@saechabashira8380]

Another thing I find amazingly haunting. Every other level has some sort of puzzles and enigmas. Not this one. In this one, you just go forward. You watch your allies die and you can only push forwards. You cannot do anything else...

[@ERIK-457]

Despite the cartoonish appearance and looking like a flash game from the 2000-2010, it actually portrayed war accurately and realistically, and it unironically gave me chills and made me imagine myself in that situation

[@DarklordDainos22]

1:20

[@kalkuttadrop6371]

I find it interesting how the game manages to make you sympathize with a traitor and mutineer(who are usually considered among the worst of the worst)

[@Lee-yo5cl]

Do you know that when the general start shooting ur friend if you wait the friend will get shoot to dead by the germans

[@luthfihisyam3222]

THOSE GODDAMN 1 SERBS GUY KILLED A COUPLES COULD CAUSE THIS 💀

[@toadstars]

How do you expect people to charge through heavy machine-gun fire and survive? Anyone with an IQ above 20 would not run through that.

[@dopsgaming8796]

Seems pretty obvious but this same Thing happened for ww1

[@dobremarian1234]

Well You see when You have 4 machine Guns allined next to each ather and becose of a Heavy backpack You try to tun how much You can

[@italian-lad]

You didn't have much of a choice, you could go to prison or be killed by your officer if you didn't listen to his orders.

[@alanjefferson1127]

Pretty obvious, you show the soldiers that they have an 80% chance of dying to the enemy machine gun, and a *100% chance of being hunted down and shot or hanged by your own country.* War is hell. And humans are good at doing it.

[@Noobguy377]

No one wins in war. Everyone loses.

[@gato656]

This game is amazing

[@andreacasazza3350]

"Sadly" i've playied the game after watching an whole playthrough so i don't know how i would have acted at the end on my own...

[@Talibanguerilla]

Welcome to what the boogaloo will most likely look like.

[@Talibanguerilla]

Aka people who elect them self's general who don't know what there doing so they get everyone killed

[@syteanric]

8:44 NO not this way! EMIIIIIIIIILLLLE!

[@PRO-ll7tl]

Браво мно го яко 👍👍👍👍 абонирайми се за канала моля

[@avoicefromsomewhere5483]

"War rewards only reasignation" Narrator darkest dungeon 2

[@aperson9973]

I'm an idiot. I thought before that I understood. I understand now. This game is fucking masterful. We need every single military commander, to play, and understand this.

[@fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu]

"Qu'est-ce que?"

[@brentdye1504]

How brutal this offensive attack will cost the lives of the soldiers nivelle plan didn't go through.

[@dobremarian1234]

lemme make it worse for you en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Nivelle

[@joshp698]

Based of the history

[@DarklordDainos22]

1:24

[@Coolkidd5.56]

Wow the video is 9 minutes and 17 seconds long

[@bellycubelow]

I have a question, Why do these soldiers, Aimlessly run around like hooligans?

[@personyoudontknow3342]

They don't want to get shot by the officers or be called a coward and executed. They had a better chance of living if they charged. Even though many died...

[@lonewolf7761]

They have to our else their commanding officers will kill them for being cowards plus their running from all the machine gun fire

[@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s]

Nivelle's orders.

[@satriadicky3732]

Well how else would they get close enough to actually see the enemy? Your entire infantry was just muskateers facing againts the efficiency of early modern weaponry. Replace the gung ho banzai charge with muskateers march and they are practically the same.

[@khalidasum8300]

ay wassup

[@Evil_inc]

whu is the end laggy

[@olivaiosefa]

Can this game be found on ipad

[@pokemonde-se5tv]

spoil: si vous laissez l'officier continuer de tirer pour faire avancer les soldats, toute l'unité mourra poussée par l'officier français sous les balles allemandes.

[@thomb4208]

Real ??

[@lonewolf7761]

Does anyone know the theme to this part 4:16

[@samyhbu135]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXi9aI2Le96ApJI here’s the link, just found it the moment I liked your comment

[@lonewolf7761]

@@samyhbu135 Thank you!

[@gameoverxcx7740]

It would be nice if instead of killing the general in the game, you could beat the general with the group and throw him under machine gun fire to feed him.

[@dobremarian1234]

8:38 qu'est-ce que vous foutez ?

[@Dragoneatspam]

During this whole mission, the guy with the bolt cutters couldve been the only one except Emile to survive in the squad. (Im leaving the guy with the glasses up to interpretation, because the player can either save him or let the general push him to machine gun fire.)

[@christianbusch5499]

“Dearest Marie, as the war ends for me, I have no regrets. I’ve seen too much horror.”

[@DarklordDainos22]

1:19 8:21

[@Talibanguerilla]

:-[

[@DarklordDainos22]

1:24

[@SiodogRehane]

That's why they lost the war, always shooting and reloading at the same time

[@juancarlosdegoya2757]

They won this war, lost the next one

[@desertigloo2383]

​@@juancarlosdegoya2757se refiere a los alemanes. Recargan y disparan a la vez

[@Solveig.Tissot]

​@@juancarlosdegoya2757Your lack of knowledge is as hopeless as your opinion...

[@annemccormick2561]

People please I preach to you out of love belive on the lord Jesus Christ and trust in him for you salvation and not in yourself Christ came to die for our sin we have all sinned and deserve hell but God is so merciful and Jesus died on the cross to take our punishment so that who ever belive on him will not perish but have eternal life john 3:16 romans 10:9 if we confess with our mouth Jesus is lord and belive in our heart that god rose him from the dead we will be saved we can not earn salvation it is the free gift from God❤❤,,,.,.,

[@MrRenix1990]

The most dramatic level in the whole game