Valorant Patch 9.11 All Changes (Vyse Buff, Neon Nerf, Ping Update)

[@Cakehai]

Good to see the devs r trying to reduce communication with our no mic teammates 👍

[@Ch3_s]

LMAO

[@tommywalsh9631]

exactly they have no clue

[@spacesalmon]

i think they are trying to encourage ppl to use voice comms, but yea u can't really expect ppl to vc especially in apac

[@ethanliu6501]

@@spacesalmon nah they tryna stop the pros from sitting in main and spamming, but that really is just a bad map design issue. The change isnt targetted to us ranked players

[@arush_zyt]

@@ethanliu6501 pros don't even need pings to do that, the change isn't targetted to ranked players but we will be the one who will suffer since we have random teammates who might not comm and plant at weird places. So whatever this nerf is bad for ranked players and mostly solo queues. DK what you mean by that

[@kennedyoreo1003]

Nerfing ping is crazy

[@jacobnsh]

it is a powerfull tool

[@xIceBites]

Now my elo is gunna suffer

[@KWCHope]

​@jacobnsh it was only ever really good for random teams, pros and 5 stacks didn't need it nearly as much since they can actually actively com Why is Riot making solo queue even more ass

[@lemongrab7635]

Even in pro play they ping so you are just lying ​@@KWCHope

[@rbtx55]

Its now more like cs its better

[@EliteAsian14]

bro EU and APAC servers are already a nightmare when it comes to language barriers, why nerf pinging when it’s a way players can communicate across any language

[@Sai_Zz]

Yeah they should have just made it so you cant ping the bomb and kept the pinging system normal except for that

[@nel_tu_]

​@@Sai_Zzpeople would just ping 1mm off the bomb what's your point

[@vissivarrel9721]

cause dev think this game only exist in NA🤣

[@EliteAsian14]

@@nel_tu_ I get that people upset with the post plant spam meta but that’s the devs fault for their poor map design

[@nel_tu_]

@@EliteAsian14 yeah i was replying to the other suggestion. although, coming from cs, pinging in valorant did feel like wall hacks. don't get me wrong, i miss it when i play cs, just saying 😂

[@whereami.]

0:54 "The in-game ping system was created with the simple goal of allowing players to communicate with one another without using their mic" well shit, now that we basically can't do that, what do they expect us to do now? type really fast in our own language and pray our teammates can understand? people in the Tokyo servers don't usually use their mics and i don't blame them. nerfing pings was not the right call, seriously

[@xdesai]

i dislike this because its not very low elo friendly, i for example ping through smokes to know where im looking, for example when looking onto site and want to spray a certain spot where people often stand (take bind hookah to spawn for example)

[@bigglenator]

You can still ping though, you just have to look at the map to see them. It's really not a big deal.

[@akhileshmanchikanti2669]

Tag riot and comment it brother

[@michaelh5689]

@@bigglenatorit’s not a big deal to you, it is to others

[@whereami.]

@ oh, of course. That solves everything. If I want to ping anywhere that’s not a floor, or if I want to quickly tell teammates there’s an enemy _behind_ this smoke, or the enemy Omen/Yoru/Chamber teleported to _this_ specific spot behind a wall, sure. I’ll ping the minimap for all of that, while my teammates look at their crosshairs and shoot their guns. Sounds good.

[@thebrightpowderdealer6145]

Neon ult going from 20s to 10s is crazy, i was expecting 15s, people will just run away ....

[@brokemage1395]

15s wouldve been the best but i guess they thought that it was fine since neon can recharge ult with kill, it wouldnt matter as much

[@hugodeandres1497]

It’s still better than clove, she also gets 10 seconds but she can’t sprint. It’s a required and adequate nerf

[@BanditBen]

As you probably know, players run away from alot of ults. It's good cos it encourages it to b used tacticfully

[@kappadavid4453]

I think the duration nerf was the hardest hit

[@RainboFoxx]

Good.

[@kilagraa]

Never forget 9.11

[@divyanshgarg5434]

Historic for multiple reasons

[@noroyalbloodline3983]

Why nerf the ping….

[@aMnezia]

Knowing how riot works the REAL reason why ping is nerfed because the game has a desync feature (kind of rigged) to make util usage 'rewarding'. So if an enemy is defusing and is smoked by his utility or his teammate smoke, sometimes our crosshair wont touch him OR the agent is displaced away from the planted spike position. This is why sometimes it takes forever to kill an enemy in the 'pinged' position when theyre inside their smoke/teammate smoke. Now since replay system is coming, I think this update on ping nerf is to get rid of evidence and people from exposing this, by preventing us from comparing the live game POV vs replay POV

[@origin02]

Smokes were useless before cuz team mates ping and other just spray the smoke but now the smokes are over powered. This is better tbh.

[@buenvidanadz1969]

They did not nerf neon. They absolutely annihilated her

[@gamepedia9737]

Neon got the Jett treatment :D

[@buenvidanadz1969]

@gamepedia9737 I'm just hoping that Neon is still serviceable like Jett nowadays. I remember when Jett got the similar treatment, she wasn't broken anymore but still got a lot of picks due to her fun playstyle and still being viable. If Neon turns into nerfed Chamber though, dayum 🤣

[@stahmd]

@@gamepedia9737 Jett is still picked a lot, Neon won't be. So it's Astra/Chamber/Viper treatment.

[@quickscope8034]

finally

[@AwakeNonVal]

Lowkey needed it ngl, she’s just one of those agents where she’s either hideously broken or awful

[@popuppopcorn8143]

Now finally I can smoke and defuse

[@tazyjump5377]

Its almost like we just have to memorise the map just like how preaiming works it changes nothing outside of iron where i doubt they even ping their map

[@cain2523]

@tazyjump5377 what does memorize the map have to do with pinging the spike

[@plenarix]

@tazyjump5377 are you slow

[@ihamicheneMOUH]

@@cain2523 if u memorize the map u dont need to ping the spike to know where to shoot

[@KWCHope]

​@ihamicheneMOUH Only if it's planted default lmao Pinging really only helped solo players communicate, since stacks and pros can tell eachother where to aim/go Riot effectively nerfed playing solo and people who have different strategies like planting in unqiue places that offer different benefits

[@pandaangy1826]

the people or person who did the ping change are actually insecure

[@SkylarSpooko]

probably the same person that made shock darts do 75 damage

[@TrickZ_Retz]

Propably another nepotism hire

[@WilliamScott-ge4oh]

The ping nerf hurts attackers more than it does defenders. I wouldn't be surprised if we see attacker win rates drop on most maps. Especially ones like sunset

[@---lc2qo]

True, and val was already defender sided so rip their game

[@ahh170]

they nerfed Neon back to the pre-buff patch, She used to have 1 dash, 2 shocks, 20 second ult, no slide and gun After buff: Not gonna mention 9.11 Nerf: 1 dash, 1 shock, +1 ult point, 10 second ult, no slide and gun THANKS RIOT! Definitely made her more suitable for competitive matches!

[@OnlyZipho]

they had to budd her cuz of how ass she was, and decided that they would like to make her worse than she already was. bro these devs are actually loosing braincells by the second

[@theflyingwhale5778]

Equip speed for Vyse’ E is huge, she can now actually flash for herself like a duelist. Allowing her to play more versatile-ly

[@4pereal726]

And the fake flash

[@Xygard]

Ping not through smoke is fine but pinging on map not shown up in in sight just dumb af they gonna rever this back when they saw they player dwindling like 10 percent

[@adamwilder6304]

dont these nerfs make neon worse than before her buff? coz now she only has one shock

[@stahmd]

It's insane that her ult is 10 sec and 8 orb now when Jett ult exist.

[@onkelamog]

@@stahmd crazy just leave it at 20 sec or maybe 18 sec and just increase the cost, as a neon main I am broken

[@thishandleistaken1011]

buff still way better dude

[@Cuhtastic]

Yes this is worst than what she was before everything is now worst but her running passive. Weird how they over nerf characters in this game but slightly nerf characters is League.

[@keita-sama]

​@@Cuhtastic she is not worse she's one stun less BUT her side-sprint is still faster than before her stun is stronger her sprint regens 3x faster her slide still has better accuracy than before she is NOT worse. the ult change is somewhat fair in my opinion as now neon can't run the entire map with her ult and just run it down and forces neon to use her ult wisely. it was too oppressive before. now there's counterplay. balanced.

[@nonamegiven7650]

If theyre gonna remove a slide from neon shouldnt they at least give her back her second stun

[@davidstan2987]

This is legit a chamber situation all over again.

[@LifeIsNotEz]

It's a braindead character, no need for a character that breaks the rules of the game

[@jordanjaydantheboyschannel2207]

@@LifeIsNotEza character that no longer is as op as it was and also is worst then the pre nerf version. Your a clown 🤡

[@LifeIsNotEz]

@jordanjaydantheboyschannel2207 i would gladly be a clown for the sake of all valorant players not having to play against such a low skill broken character

[@lemongrab7635]

Neon main complaining I see

[@SIayerYT]

So is there no reason to pick neon anymore? She has only 1 of each util + raze and Jett have more mobility capabilities

[@GamingChaos]

No, there's no. Jett and raze is just much more better to take space than Neon were in the first place. The only diffreance between Neon and the other entry duelists, was that she could kill players while doing entry. Jett and Raze can't kill while in the air unless ultimate. Now Neon is a just a worse agent than when she wasn't buffed.

[@lemongrab7635]

Lol what? U can run and take all the space u want. It's time to play fair

[@arush_zyt]

the nerf was needed just did some unfair thing to the ult but its fine

[@Panic_Pickle]

⁠@@lemongrab7635she is now significantly worse than she was when no one picked her except for people goofing in spike rush/swift play. Making agents unviable for competitive play is bad, actually.

[@lemongrab7635]

@Panic_Pickle no she is not lmao...it just takes mores tactical skill. And this neon is the perfectly balanced version. Enjoy

[@henryzhu8661]

I think we all need to consider that maybe the neon nerfs are a bit much to where you cant even do half the things other duelists can anymore? As a neon main of 2 years from plat to ascendant, i 100% agree that the sliding accuracy was fucking ridiculous and shouldnt be in the game, but removing a slide, increasing an ult point AND cutting it by half is a bit much. She is literally worse than her pre buff state, because at least she had 2 stuns, but now she really has nothing. I cant tell you how many times ive gotten one tapped while sliding, sometimes even by stunned players. Even if you say "ohhh her sprint recharges faster than before," playing neon for any amount of time will make you realize that pre buff neon's sprint timer was insanely low and kinda unusable. Her being able to rotate quickly should be part of her character, and her movement with wasd instead of utility like raze or jett is what made her special. Theres so much tech you can learn and shes a fun agent, but these nerfs really are a bit much. Thank you for coming to my TED talk, idc if anyone reads this, the amount of ppl complaining about neon being STILL too strong is absolutely stupid

[@henryzhu8661]

and btw, i think we should have a common enemy which is riot removing the ping system

[@wundu7512]

The nerf absolutely made her unplayable, its like neon pre-buff.

[@zenithmarshadow5098]

1. People saying one slide is too much, like the 2-kill recharge trait exists. I at least support the 2 stuns should return tho. 10 seconds sounds a lil too much on paper, but compare it to like Raze ult, Jett ult and DL ult, this seems fair enough where you have to make it count. 2. The Razorvine nerf was unnecessary, it gave Vyse some more tricks to play beyond just "on the ground" or lineups. When they said QOL improvements, I thought they were gonna improve the visuals of the vines reaching the ground(when placed on top), not take it away. Truly the 9/11 Update.

[@AwakeNonVal]

So glad someone gets the Vyse update now 🙏 I’m a Vyse main and I don’t even wanna play her anymore cause most of her setups are terrible now

[@worstplat3player]

tbh, i think neons nerf was slightly too harsh, 10 seconds may seem like a long time but think about it in a real game, you get blinded/stunned and that’s basically half your ult gone (i suggest increasing the duration to 15 seconds so you have leniency, while reducing the charge/ammo you have while in her ult - from I believe 40 to around 30 would be good, and also nerfing the recharge time, waiting longer before it starts to accumulate again - because a lot of neon players like holding down left click, and there should be a penalty for doing so on the contrary, vyse is ever so slightly too powerful to me now, making agents such as jett raze and yoru instantly needed when going up against her she just needs to be slightly balanced, I feel like slightly reducing the duration of her shear by half or one second, and reducing the duration of her razorvines by one second, and increasing the cost by 50 (like i guess what they did with the jett smokes i guess, at first I believed it would kill jett making her smokes only last 2.5 seconds, but now it isn’t so bad) the slight cost increase is to prevent people from buying a shear, razorvine and light shield on pistol, which I do a lot and find to be very strong

[@Pauli-dg2yv]

Just dont get blinded. Look away from the flash then continue

[@atharvabende8768]

Good

[@artursarda8299]

Thank god the ult was nerfed, it was so fast and hard to get rid of

[@rohitmehta2693]

good old CS days without ping people smashed heads in smokes!

[@aMnezia]

yeah but u can spray and if it hits, it hits. Valorant on the other hand if the enemy is smoked by his smoke or teammates, there is a desync feature (kind of rigged) to make util usage 'rewarding'. I think this update on ping nerf is to get rid of evidence and people from finding this stuff out, and since replay system is coming out they don't want to compare the live game POV vs replay POV

[@arjiii29]

Now I can't place the Razorvine on the roof on Ascent alley side. -_-"

[@scrubius.]

its crazy how they buffed her to be a real competitor against jett and raze as entry duelists by giving her a second dash, and now that shes actually relevant, they make her worse than she was before with one stun and shorter ult. If the most frustrating/busted part about her was the slide accuracy, they shouldve just reverted that.

[@thorstenstreber9946]

Riot trying so hard to achieve world peace by nerfing Neon, at the same time starting WW3 with nerfing Pings. but nerfing pings is a great way to make players look at the map. All visual entries like Sova drone & skye dog profit off checking the map

[@aMnezia]

Knowing how riot works the REAL reason why ping is nerfed because the game has a desync feature (kind of rigged) to make util usage 'rewarding'. So if an enemy is defusing and is smoked by his utility or his teammate smoke, sometimes our crosshair wont touch him OR the agent is displaced away from the planted spike position. This is why sometimes it takes forever to kill an enemy in the 'pinged' position when theyre inside their smoke/teammate smoke. Now since replay system is coming, I think this update on ping nerf is to get rid of evidence and people from exposing this, by preventing us from comparing the live game POV vs replay POV

[@Bakashi]

@@aMnezia Source?

[@BingePanda]

riot logic: Buff a character that litrally breaks the game, then nerf the same character to the point where they become unplayable.

[@aMnezia]

whole purpose is to; keep us playing and hooked, keep us guessing, hard to get game. all of this? to increase revenue by increasing player base, increasing player retention system, fast queuing times etc. Riot is business and not just a game company. Thats how you maximize revenue on a 'free' game

[@BingePanda]

@aMnezia i mean if you put it ie that, it kinda makes sense lol but still, this company is owned by china and they are notorious for this crap

[@shadowz8378]

Pre-Buff Neon -> Current Neon Differences Side Sprint is Faster -> Doesn't Matter since you could've jump strafed as a tech to avoid the speed reduction before the buff. This change just made her noob friendly. Her stun is slightly bigger and lasts about 0.5s longer -> This was done bc the stun charges was being reduced to 1 with a 2nd slide being added. The logic behind this was that 1 stun and a 2nd slide was seen as less impactful on site takes bc with 2 stuns, you could essentially stun all important angles on most sites which was seen as too easy. The current charge reduction no longer makes sense bc she now has 1 slide. Slide Accuracy is better -> Hitting headshots mid-slide are hard/rare. Most of the time neon is hitting the hs JUST before her slide ends. This existed before the buff and would look like you hit a sliding hs when in reality neon timed it just right. Ult cost increased and ult time nerfed Case and Point -> Neon is objectively worse in site takes/retakes and engaging as a duelist than before the buff.

[@ducphatngo4567]

for a patch number this really explodes within neon main communities

[@ankari5257]

The amazing thing is now cypher becomes even more useful on post plants as you can set a cam up on spike, when they smoke spike to defuse its gg

[@funkycrawler619]

Nobody, and I mean nobody, asked for that Vyse nerfs and all it does it take away the skill expression of the agent (but sure, let Cypher have an infinite amount of creative trips).

[@TheCookieCook]

It’s not a nerf they buffed the character. I agree that the height nerf was dumb but it was only by a little bit so I’m not super mad. And I’ll gladly take that trade off for more damage and FINALLY NERFING JETT DASH YAY!!!

[@ethanwood1737]

They gave a really big buff and a tiny nerf to prevent a lack of counterplay…

[@atulsrivastava6558]

when riot releases an agent in the next patch it either gets nerfed a little or buffed more and then nerfed heavily

[@sonicakshay]

I’m the type of person who mostly doesn’t use a mic while playing games. Nerfing ping is just an idiotic move fr. I just want to talk to the guy who suggested nerfing ping 🔪

[@hariprasadh5017]

The ping nerf is for people like you xD

[@karasu-FPS]

if you're not dumb, nothing change at all (i don't mean you're dumb)

[@Rusk0000]

Info is still there but dead teamate wont aim for you anymore

[@SkopiTypek]

@@karasu-FPS It does, especialy for Sova mains, how am i suposted to land ult now?

[@stahmd]

So Neon is a lot worse than pre-buff. Terrible patch.

[@aMnezia]

Knowing how riot works the REAL reason why ping is nerfed because the game has a desync feature (kind of rigged) to make util usage 'rewarding'. So if an enemy is defusing and is smoked by his utility or his teammate smoke, sometimes our crosshair wont touch him OR the agent is displaced away from the planted spike position. This is why sometimes it takes forever to kill an enemy in the 'pinged' position when theyre inside their smoke/teammate smoke. Now since replay system is coming, I think this update on ping nerf is to get rid of evidence and people from exposing this, by preventing us from comparing the live game POV vs replay POV

[@Blade_Venom]

a 10 second ult is insane tho. also i feel like 2 slides was actually fine as long as they reduced the accuracy while sliding.

[@Proooooud]

riot never dissapoints to dissapoint ☺️

[@astoz2726]

Honestly neon might need a slight buff like 15 seconds ult or 2 slides to get her back into meta. Slide accuracy I don't rly care about.

[@suppleymaster5083]

Thanks Riot for nerfing Team Play on a team based game!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

[@Learnfromtheworst.-gr3zi]

The ping change actually improves calls and map awareness. But it was unexpected

[@LucasPlay171]

NAW BRO NOT MY NEON I AM *NOT* COMING BACK

[@s3ated980]

i like how its a "tactical shooter" with fucking slides with 100 percent accuracy

[@MZRNXD]

was the concuss for vyse's razorvine fake? ive been seeing it apparently concusses now

[@KangaValorant]

The patch notes say "Now slows enemy dashes similar to Sage’s Slowing Orb and concusses." So they're just saying that Razorvine now is harsher against dashes, similar to how slow orbs / concusses now stop dashes from going as far. Not actually adding a stun to the razorvine

[@MZRNXD]

@@KangaValorant ahh gotcha, thank you

[@Quicidal]

so back to the raze and jett duelist meta all again, great job riot

[@aMnezia]

0:55 dumb ass riot trying to get rid of evidence of rigged desync feature once again. goodluck shooting an enemy defusing with THEIR / enemy team's utility (smoke) coz even with pings its impossible most of the time unless burst

[@karasu-FPS]

So nothing change bro xD

[@gnpaone]

0:37 I think there's a increase in width of razorvine compared to old and new? (you can see below the green cylinders thing right end of the picture)

[@JIMMY_6969]

Give back stun or that 2nd slide How you want us to enter site now with only 3 abilities 😭😭😭😭

[@lium540]

Nah

[@gpfhantom1890]

The same way Jett does. Play with your team instead of just walling and running into sites by yourself and killing everyone on the site. It's a team game

[@mikewilkins136]

ur play a normal agent that isnt broken maybe ?

[@Sai_Zz]

Neon mains crying that their broken asf character got nerfed, you love to see it

[@henryzhu8661]

@@Sai_Zz broken asf for like a month, what abt jett mains with their insta dash? oh you have a 4700 credit one shot weapon whos only drawback is that its unwieldly and takes a fucking long ass time to reset? nope! just press e! no money? no problem! just pop ur ult, 5 knives that all one tap headshot and used to have a broken ass right click! riot making neon objectively worse than BEFORE the nerfs is just ridiculous and makes no sense, they basically killed her competitive viability with this lol if smth like this happened to yall obese 4 foot 3 jett mains riot games hq would get fucking bombed

[@NightcorePlume]

I absolutely hate the ping changes. I always found it fundamental to give / receive info... Hope it will come back to how it was before soon

[@antoniousadelraghebnaann6847]

When will this patch go live?

[@Kissiehyudo]

Should hv went live already NA, EU will be tmrw 4 -5 am smthng like tht

[@ricefarmer06]

totally the best update ever...they gave neon the chamber treatment making her completely useless...and nerfing the ping system...a system thats been in the game for years...

[@Mingo937]

For everyone hating on the new ping, riot had to do this to solve the spike spam problem. You see, people could easily ping then spam spike making post plant near impossible. So, to try to remove this strategy, riot nerfed the ping. It didn’t have to be this bad, but they did what they had to.

[@matthewgottlieb2703]

im confused for the skin change, does that mean radianite is only for varients now?

[@BeeffenZ]

Plsss I need like 150 rp to upgrade all my skins

[@hypxredits]

Nooo before you needed to purchase like stages for it, upgrade 1-2-3 but now it's all at once , in one click , full upgrade and for variants unlock it's normal

[@lynkaster8182]

probably just means that you can go from level 1 to 4 in 1 click rather than 4 now. I don't think riot will let themselves lose money on radianite

[@BeeffenZ]

Oh ok but it’s better for me at least

[@ANtroposo524]

I hope we get something big for season 10.0

[@plangmoo5902]

why change the ping system, just worsening low level gameplay. It is easier to com in high level gameplay alongside pings, however in mid range solo q its going to be hell when newer players cant see pings when someone is just saying the location instead.

[@eggu1828]

Can you use marks to check if there are smokes from enemies?

[@untilDAWN-h2m]

"Hoy! I'm pissed!”- Neon 2024 Rest in 🕊️ peace.

[@Shubhammjha]

now cant mark spike to attack while enemy diffuse in smoke

[@dyvyby]

Holy shit, the ping nerf is crazy, now I'm gonna love Valorant more than CS2 for defusing plays under the smoke and against dead teammates. The more patches it gets the less easier the game gets.

[@Cartoonsxyz3M]

i am neon main and still won 3/3 comp today with match mvp but i don't like this patch 9.11 😑😑

[@SadmanHossainOfficial]

Someone's gonna find lineups to spray the spike

[@supernova4467]

wth ping did

[@StormBlessedxo]

Can't tell you the amount of times I and others have lost a round or a game due to a no comm teammate. Comms can make all the difference and you take away a ping!

[@wat5]

Great work from Riot for removing the “tactical” in their “tactical FPS”

[@Maxitoes]

nah i can't believe they are nerfing my neon that hard and vyse isn't getting enough of a buff.

[@reddestoutofreds]

Neon nerf was too strong imo Like acc and ult cost nerf are alr But ult duration cut in haft is overkill And reducing neon's slide charge make it worse She might be bottom c tier agent rn

[@SushiGotMusic]

Why ping?

[@helge5565]

Letting Neon terrorize the game for gods know how long, just to suddenly make her unplayable. Typical Riot behavior ”Yeah, let’s just wait for a few months and then nerf her WHOLE kit, instead of changing one thing at a time” Also, let me add my straw to the haystack: the ping nerf f**king sucks

[@ElSantoso12]

I thought ping update makes my 40 ping to 20😢

[@dragonking2071]

Bruh the vyse c nerf is so fucking stupid, that made it at least little useful when u could put it on some high palces. And neon nerfs a so dumb, gj riot now we are going in boring ass jett and raze meta

[@chonkyboi._.]

Found the NEON ABUSER

[@zmaerd1503]

neon nerfs dumb??? have you played the game???

[@Kissiehyudo]

​​It's literally a very balanced nerf, they did not decrease her speed, they did not decrease her ult dmg, all they did was remove one slide so that neon doesn't get a free out of j card after she jst slid into our whole team, reduced accuracy bcz thts how it should be its the games rules to stand still bfr, and made her ultimate a bit more.... intentional instead of neon mains activating it across the map nd getting an ace every round with ult, they now need to activate it when they actually see someone at the very least, jett and raze have been nerfed in every single patch for ages now, both directly and indirectly, but yes let's cry about jett nd raze instead of crying about the overwatch character tht breaks game rules or about the iso who can make and take the most random decisions and get away w it bcz shield! Don't try to reason with these people let them cry.​@@zmaerd1503

[@RayReyRei]

​@@zmaerd1503 it is dumb. Absolutely dumb. She's in a worse state than she was prebuffed, and making the accuracy while sliding only partially accurate means even more rng would be involved, which wouldnt fix what annoys people abt her anyways

[@sebastiang.9731]

L take fr fr.neon nerfs still not enough imo

[@cyberflaw_]

the neon nerfs are overtuned imo as someone who used to play neon even before the buffs, she is in her all time low

[@glacialheir4815]

The ping is just... Crazy, its literally for comms and it just became useless if it doesn't show on the map!

[@Silent.17]

tbh, I dont really care about all the buffs or nerfs. But the Pings are the most annoying thing because it was in the game for so long and now its just basically gone.

[@ItsKaysu]

Neon was barely picked pre buff already, it makes so much sense to make her worse than she was before! 🥴

[@iyorter6863]

if they're gonna nerf neon slide back to 1 at least make the "kill to recharge" down to 1 too

[@noobmaster8974]

As a vyse main i love the flash equip buff

[@zirobie1016]

what? the 'play 100 matches' is a bug all that time?

[@rosanovavyole5405]

Neon nerfs are so overkill. You supposed to nerf the things that made her broken, not every single thing. On the surface it looks like reducing the ult duration sounds appropriate for a nerf, but not when you also increase ult point requirement, reduce her slide charges, reduce her slide accuracy etc.

[@jaguareagle7026]

2 slides are necessary for Neon maybe ult nerf was good but 2 slides is needed

[@sheekshow]

ping nerf is the 9.11 of valorant

[@aMnezia]

Knowing how riot works the REAL reason why ping is nerfed because the game has a desync feature (kind of rigged) to make util usage 'rewarding'. So if an enemy is defusing and is smoked by his utility or his teammate smoke, sometimes our crosshair wont touch him OR the agent is displaced away from the planted spike position. This is why sometimes it takes forever to kill an enemy in the 'pinged' position when theyre inside their smoke/teammate smoke. Now since replay system is coming, I think this update on ping nerf is to get rid of evidence and people from exposing this, by preventing us from comparing the live game POV vs replay POV

[@ksarehere86]

So who was complaining about pings being too broken?

[@dullahangms]

Nah bro, my older sister is Deaf and Immo2, This change simply fucked up her only form of communication mid-round

[@susanwojcicki5714]

As a neon main, This is a terrible update… Every change imo is kinda wack besides some buffs

[@TheConfusedTaco]

Is neon now worse than pre buff? No point in playing her now. I've been playing only phx recently but sad to see this heavy hand

[@NeptuneThePlanet]

The neon nerfs are a little too much, but those vyse buffs are really good, holy!

[@lavishcole]

Im so down to nerf neon into the ground. Id way rather shoot at raze and jett. The ping nerf is whack im not sure why they did that. Its incredibly useful to have a dead teammate ping bomb.

[@UditTamrakar4347]

Devs fakd up this time. All those ui changes and neon nerf

[@razorelfakira5052]

the ping is annoying as hell some teammates spam cant hear a thing

[@kovi2451]

I don’t like how neon is the only duelist in the game with 3 abilities they should give her 2 stuns at least she has no utility basically

[@warriorvedangop]

I wudn't be surprised if they remove voice comms and pings both completey

[@kronic2903]

I dont get why people are not liking the neon ult nerf. Have you tried killing a neon in her ult going left and right constantly? Atleast jett knives need accuracy but neon ult is just free kills. Atleast neon players will use their ult strategically, not like before where they could run the whole map before their ult ran out.

[@kaiquecavalcante2774]

I liked neon's nerf, my worries is that she's weaker than before the buff

[@trad3mark929]

They nerfed neon to the absolute bottom. They hit her with damn near every nerf possible

[@asheronval]

Omg the ping sound is annoying af im more mad about the sound than the fact it doesn't go through smokes

[@nubnib8537]

ping won't show on real map floor is too much nerf for the game I just don't want to talk and give them info play casually. It's okay to not show ping behind or inside or through the smoke but not showing on real map is too much shit

[@lucinamain6861]

crazy how the 9/11 patch is one of the worst patches ever

[@trek7985]

Neon is a good nerf except taking her slide away but the pinging system is stupid

[@godkingberkyy]

expect neon ult to go from 10 s to 13-15

[@Realy]

Another deadlock buff is definitely needed

[@ElectroPortalmain]

Man friendship with Neon is over my favorite agent (in my most hated role) just fucked me

[@chaseyagoobian]

is it real week mission 100 games?

[@chaseyagoobian]

i didn’t see at the end lol

[@ALONfiles]

As a Neon player this is the worst

[@lephilippin.gaming]

I wonder where did this ping idea came from? I’m intrigued on how they thought about that… It’s the dumbest idea to nerf the ping this way… Like… how does pinging through a smoke a problem? Hello?