VALUE ELECTRONICS 2024 TV Shootout! G4 vs BRAVIA 9 vs S95D vs A95L vs QN95D!

[@vKingLouie]

Hey Brian, I actually went to Value Electronics Yesterday and took the 50 min drive from NJ, hoping to be able to see the A95L and G4 in different ways than at Best Buy. I walked in and they were setting up and building chairs and the lady at the desk told me about the event this weekend. I totally forgot about the yearly shootouts. I didnt want to get in their way so I ended up driving right back home lol. But She said I could come to the event though and I thought what better way to compare the two TVs and even my 3rd option (Bravia 9) then have the best in the industry compare them and show them off while I watch. I’ll be there tomorrow and maybe Sunday as well.. im excited to purchase my TV from them this weekend!!

[@pekamikush2416]

Did you wind up buying one?

[@vKingLouie]

@@pekamikush2416 I did, although I ended up purchasing from Costco instead. The 77” G4 was $3,999 and included a free 3 year All State extended warranty. So with the 1 year lg warranty and 1 year costco warranty + the 3 year AllState, I have 5 year total warranty + 5 year LG burn in warranty. The deal was too good to pass up.

[@sparkiegaz3613]

Just get the 85 inch Bravia 9 job done , sit down rewatch all your favourite movies 👍👍👍👍

[@Tablahands]

I'm with you, man. I've been seeing a lot of reviews on the B9, and the details seen in dark scenes make it outstanding to enjoy films. With unnoticeable blooming and excellent contrast for a miniled i can not imagine a better television on the market.

[@brokenwrench404]

@@Tablahands and it should last way beyond oled and qd-oled tv’s

[@Tablahands]

​@@brokenwrench404definitely! Amazing value!

[@SagaciousFrank]

Or a smaller size if you can't fit the 85". Aren't the extra dimming zones proportional to the size increase anyway? Panel difference maybe be more of a factor.

[@SLICK8116]

@@sparkiegaz3613 no🤣😂😅

[@eiksman]

For everyone a comparison how the shootout works: oleds will go against each other and mini led will go against each other seperatly. The winner of both type will then go against each other to crown the winner.

[@welshcaesar]

The best Tv of 2023 is still the best Tv of 2024. Take a bow A95L.

[@matttafakt]

What's funny is that the X95L won out over the A95L in popular opinion but nobody wants to compare apples to apples. I've seen all these "reviewers" get paid and also receive free Tv's and merch from manufacturers .. so they're basically getting paid to not do proper reviews or comparisons.

[@bigcdub]

​​@@matttafaktBro, "popular opinion", lol!? Anyone can have an opinion or preference, your talking about two different panel technologies. One uses a led backlight, and the other is self emissive and has infinite contrast, better viewing angles, and better screen uniformity. Sure LED's can get brighter, but can never match the black levels or color saturation of OLED, and that doesn't mean you can't still prefer MiniLED...

[@goodson1959]

G4 COMES IN LAST!! A full half point behind S95D! A95L wins over S95d by only 0.1 point!

[@AllisonRoadWest]

It does very very poorly with streaming content. Value electronics did not even use the calibrated Netflix or calibrated Amazon modes on the Sony that would have put it even further ahead Sony won by one of the largest margins I've ever seen in both categories. Definitely a bad year for LG (No hate - I'm an lg owner - But they are way behind Sony)

[@marro2483]

@@AllisonRoadWestvalue electronics is a joke putting a 2023 tv in the shootout I’ve lost all respect for them!

[@markblock5602]

@@AllisonRoadWest What so you mean the G4 does poorly with streaming content..? ....as opposed to hooking up a DVD? Could you please elaborate and explain? Most of us (certainly me) just streaming Netflix, Amazon movies and series...

[@JBlakeS23]

All I heard this year was G4 G4 G4!!!! And it comes in last yet again…. The LG G4 didn’t win a single category… QDOLED is undefeated.

[@บรรเลงเพลงเสียงสวรรค์]

QD-OLED SONY A95L WINNERS 🏆 WOLED + MLA LG G3 G4 Didn't win

[@kjell9745]

I like the OS and the 3D pop from the Lg, Have an G4 now if it wasn't about the sony only having 2 hdmi's I would picked the sony...

[@oziejah]

Which would be best ootb at 55"?.

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Great video guys😊😊

[@Vetteman6363]

A95L ❤

[@matttafakt]

Have fun with your little 65" vs a much better 85" X95L

[@AndreyGevechanov]

I got the G4 after testing the B9 and A95L, and I like it the most. To say I'm blown away is not enough; it's a great TV. Actually, all of them are, but for my specific gaming needs and movies, the G4 is for me. This TV has serious brightness, the HDR is great, and the picture quality is super sharp with micro details. The processor is a big step up from the older models; you can see the clarity on the display. I tested the QD-OLEDs, and yes, they have superior colors, but they are not far ahead. The G4 has great colors as well; I doubt anyone will complain if they had it. There is no perfect TV-G4 has its problems as well-but I really enjoy it. You can't go wrong with any of them; it depends on what you are using it for

[@chrisbullock6477]

It's about time for these to start being recorded in 4k in HDR at least on a website for a high-quality version because for such great TVs 1080p is just not going to do justice for anything

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

@chrisbullock6477 these discussions are my only 1080p vids. All other videos are 4K@60FPS for years😁

[@michaelcasper2613]

Thanks very helpful

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

My pleasure! Thank you for watching!

[@sj460162]

Super video boys! So when I trade in my amazing QN95C im stuck on G4 or S95D..mmm

[@CEVGNMOR]

Where do you trade in??

[@sj460162]

@@CEVGNMOR probly samsung

[@Flackdiesel889]

Hey brother, have you heard anything about the release of the Hisense U9N? Thank you for all that you do.

[@PrinceIndiaGaming]

G4 is awesome in all

[@Jammedup18]

People arguing about a test thats opinion based. Just because they perform the test doesn't mean the winner is the "best". Do your own research and find a way to actually check out the TV's. KZbin isn't it.

[@ilusiil]

The results of these test are based on measureble values, and weighed against the performance metrics of a professional mastering monitor, so to call them "opinion based" is disingenuous.

[@Jammedup18]

@@ilusiil "🐑"

[@AleksandreMzhavia]

Wooo, les goo! Love Sony, but this year its - G4 ;)

[@From-sl3yg]

Hey Brian, For people that don’t upgrade TVs as often and for a home theatre use case would you recommend QD-OLEDs over the W-OLEDs as when 4000 nits movies become more available even though the S95D wasn’t able to get as bright as an B9. it was able to keep colour and detail were as the G4 would lose colour. And if thats the case do you think next year QD-OLEDs will be bigger in size as i got my hart set on an 80+ inch

[@d1nicoya]

A95L is King of TVS

[@electronbashful540]

Nope

[@MISTERMASTER1234]

Easily.

[@chrisbullock6477]

Roberts skin tones are really popping put that TV behind him😅😊

[@MrUpscaleman]

Congratulations on the 20th Anniversary! Robert was kind enough to extend an invitation but I'm, unfortunately, unable to make it. Enjoy the event. I'll be there next year!

[@petecap4382]

Hello has anyone check the nextgen tunner issues with the Bravia 7 the Bravia 9 may have the same issues.

[@claykeough7898]

85" X90L for the win! 😆 Pure value!!

[@kheanchyuanyap6562]

Hi Brian, I am planning to get either Bravia 9 85 inch, Samsung qn 900d 77 inch or Samsung 95d 77 inch, which is a better choice?

[@profitfever]

The Bravia 9 will have better processing, better colour out of the box, better sound by miles, better uniformity and build quality as Samsung is known for its poor quality control. The OLED will have a slightly deeper black and a better viewing angle. But the Bravia will be much brighter and have more detail in the shadows. Personally I’d go BRAVIA 9.

[@kheanchyuanyap6562]

@@profitfeverthanks for the advice.

[@46GarageUSA]

Saw the Bravia 9, 8 and 7 yesterday. I gotta say the Bravia 7 has awful blacks and the screen was awful for reflection. The Bravia 8 had perfect blacks and less reflection but sometimes the 7 color looked better. Odd. The 9 was out of this world in perfection. But 3k for a Tv that might not last 10 years ugh 😫

[@brokenwrench404]

The Bravia 9 is the only one I’d expect to last 10 years. My 6 year old c8 is having issues with motion but no burn in

[@whitecrowuk575]

That is until you see A95L,G4 or S95D. Then you will see that B9/8/7 doesn’t compare

[@brokenwrench404]

@@whitecrowuk575 watch “all about tkk” for some A95L vs Bravia 9 content. The Bravia 9 was way better than the qdoled in dark scenes. You could see details on the b9 that was just a black smear on the a95L. Quite amazing tbh

[@Tablahands]

No burn in. Think about it

[@46GarageUSA]

@@whitecrowuk575 my Best Buy had the G4 display. But had a completely different video on loop than the Sony section had. In fact the video on the G4 was a graphic cartoon not showing anything real other than colors on the screen. So I couldn't compare. Best Buy does a lousy job of demonstrating TV's or making the displays customer friendly to compare anything.

[@wavey57]

I have 3 oleds: LG CX, LG C3 and Samsung S95D. Whoever disregards Samsung for the mat finish, and hasn't seen it in person, doesn't know sh!t. It's an amazing TV.

[@MISTERMASTER1234]

I agree, S95D is awesome. And better than WOLED.

[@Pichoniix]

Lmao if people doesn't like the S95D because of the mat finish that means they don't know shit 😂.

[@wavey57]

@@Pichoniix "without seeing it in person", did your brain skipped that bit?!

[@MiamiBuster]

It would be interesting if the value judgements made during the showdown were based on the “Viewing experience” rather than the black levels. I you walk around outside on a clear day, you will NEVER see black unless it is a black car or a pair of shoes. The black that creeps into the picture on a TV is the result of the cameras used which are incapable of equaling the eye’s ability to see into the shadows seen in real life. The result of film’s inability to faithfully replicate these shadows results in that space being filled in with black on the TV screen as a default. No special kudos should be given to a TV that produces a blacker default value than another brand. The blacker it is the less real it is.

[@cooltuber1404]

😂😂😂 ... yah had to go there with shot to FOMO's shirt ! Some good Rodney Dangerfield one liners followed. Looking forward to another shootout. There have been some highly praised reviews of TCL Mini LED any reason it's not included ? Thanks again ! 😊

[@mergeform]

For HDR movies contrast should be 1,000,000 to 1, so that's LG G4, G3 and almost C-4.

[@IGOTGAMEAJ]

I Have the G4 amazing TV watching the Olympics in 4k does not get any better

[@LuvTech141]

As a complete package, quality, price and value the S90D could be the pick of the year.

[@patrickmoney1894]

I really wish it was in the shootout

[@Pichoniix]

Absolutely agree 👍 the S90D performs almost like the S95D but at a much lower price and it comes with a Glossy screen.

[@kylestrait-fl8ql]

A lot of people think Sony is still 2015-level ahead in processing. In reality, the image quality race has never been closer. LG has built a worthy rival in the G4, and Samsung has made significant strides as well.

[@danielkudo4800]

Nope, Sony upscaling still unmatched by wide margin

[@hometheaterman1424]

Good Morning Brian Robert and Wendy are Shipping me my Panasonic DP-UB9000P1K Blu-ray player today. Robert and Wendy gave me a 4-year Warranty on it. My Blu-ray player will be here tomorrow morning. I am very excited. I am paying Robert back eather today or Monday or Tuesday by next week. Robert and Wendy take such good care of me. Thank you for all you do Robert and Wendy you guys are so amazing. You have always been there for me when shit hits the fan. Especially when my Panasonic DP-UB820 4K Blu-ray just died on Wednesday

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

@hometheaterman1424 awesome my friend! Enjoy the best player on the planet!

[@patrickl.654]

let's go !

[@jayallen7368]

I bought bravia 8 love it wanted the a95l but no one could answer if they are all bugged out. That is all i see on forums is the bugs for a95l . Still happy with bravia 8 but i will move it to the bedroom if the A95l is fixed

[@techsamurai11]

what's the issue with the A95L?

[@jayallen7368]

@@techsamurai11 hdmi not working right, audio problems with receivers, tv just shutting off, a big list on home theater forums.

[@AmurTiger-vm5dy]

Lg g4 win sure👑📺

[@PETERThompson-e6h]

I have looked at all of these tv's and in my opinion the Samsung s90c beats them all. The best tv picture I have ever seen

[@Pichoniix]

So based on this the Samsung S90D is the best Tv. It cost way less than the S95D and it comes with a Glossy screen.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

I'd say it's very good! It's a semi gloss . Thank you for watching

[@cachegrk]

How important is the Dolby vision ? Samsung doesn’t have it

[@chrisbullock6477]

Only one for us at this point is the best that has 85inch at least.

[@pekamikush2416]

What's up Brian! Glad to meet you at the TV Shootout. I promised to say hi on KZbin. Long time watcher of your channel, and I believe this was my 10th shootout. Frankly, I'm glad it was back at the Value Electronics store. Had more of the old school vibe. Who doesn't love looking at beautiful TVs? And nitpicking them!

[@TheAETHER22]

Looking forward to see the bravia 9 vs qn95d

[@Ashtyr]

Bravia 9 will destroy qn95, I have no doubts

[@brokenwrench404]

The B9 destroyed the A95L. I don’t expect anything except the G4 to be able to come close

[@MISTERMASTER1234]

​@@brokenwrench404 😂😂😂😂😂 nice joke

[@bigcdub]

​@brokenwrench404 Lmao, B9 didn't "destroy" anything. Nice bright LED, great color saturation but still not self emissive, and cant reach the same infinite contrast and true black levels of Oled panels, also the A95L is still the reigning King by Value Electronics until after the shootout. But in person, the A95L and S95D still have the best PQ, with the G4 not far behind, and I own 3 QD-Oleds, 2 Oleds, and 1 MiniLed, and love them all...

[@Ashtyr]

@@bigcdub Whoever is talking about OLEDs, we are talking about two LEDs, even that cannot be done without the OLED defense force coming to complain.

[@Codestud]

I’ve just bought a G4, it’s very nice! What swung it for me was that I took advantage of a weekend discount and trade in offer LG were doing, so got a good deal.

[@CEVGNMOR]

Where do you trade in?

[@bartolomecamacho4610]

Sony is the best, but LG G4 is the best option quality-price. You can buy LG G4 for -40% or -50% than Sony A95L. And in your comparison G4 is the third or second? Because Samsung need a expert client to up to second...

[@coderdenewbie]

No hisense or TCL?

[@brokenwrench404]

They were scared to participate

[@techsamurai11]

I know I’m I in the minority but I disliked the G4 when I saw it. It’s probably Best Buy’s fault as it was in torch mode. The S90C was a lot better but there was something that bothered me about the G4. The S95D with its matte finish was more like the S90C than I expected. I don’t know if it was over-sharpening along with extreme highlights or the green tint but my eyes were not happy. Sonys made my eyes the happiest and were the most enjoyable and once you hit the X90L or higher, they are all about the same.

[@kingdramanyz]

MY xbr a8f has a bunch of dead pixels and a dead border of about an 1/8 of an inch. its 5 years old think the bravia 9 is the one to get here.

[@DavidSusiloUnscripted]

I thought the shootout is tomorrow? What’s happening in 3 hours?

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

Just the beginning of our coverage, my friend . The actual event is tomorrow and Sunday

[@brokenwrench404]

It’s a pre recorded premiere video. I think that’s why so many were confused about the timing

[@edwingitau2277]

Sony won ❤

[@MyJeffrey1970]

Will this be the 1st time in history if A95L wins again? Has any TV ever win 2 years in a row? Loving my 65 inch A95L Watch 4k Olympic Games on KZbin tv😍😍, Amazing picture.

[@MISTERMASTER1234]

Never happened before. But it might happen this time

[@christophercharles3426]

Probably many yrs ago with plasma and the kuro was about

[@Mr_Latte_UK]

I would love to see the 900D used with PC for gaming. Showing it also with 21:9 and 32:9 screen resolutions. Highlight what is supported what is not and how well used like a monitor it really is?

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYXcfYidnZl_b68si=FAUUjv6DQ1APvVAS here it is in 8k gaming

[@tolo9287]

Wieso niemand von euch redet über Panasonic Fernseher?🤔

[@MM-Official]

Cuz Sony still the best and no Panasonic in USA

[@billtinnell2206]

G4, G4, G4, G4, G4, G4, G4, G4, G4, G4, G4, G4, ALL DAY, ANY DAY, EVERY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The 3D pop is the best.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

The A95L could win again, S95D disqualified for mat finish, bravia 9 disqualified for being LCD. The G4 would be my pick

[@thatsamazin-]

BUT, the s95d might just have the best picture for gaming. It sure looked best on KG’s video compared to G4. I was all in on the G4 until I saw it side by side in gaming. The color brightness is on a different level.

[@logicwins3492]

Do you brother. I'd personally pick the Bravia 9 as I'd like a TV technology that'll last me 8+ years.

[@BeatelementhePiH]

​@@thatsamazin- You need to watch the gaming part on this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJCppnp4f8uJedUsi=pWd_lpihPu8q40OZ The G4 looks way better and I saw other videos showing that the details in gaming are way better on the G4. I have the 77 inch version and I love my G4!! 😊

[@MrUpscaleman]

I'm more into QD OLED color but I'm NOT into matte screens so I'm down to one choice.

[@ehenningsen]

​@thatsamazin- same. I was down to the QN900D and G4, but KGs livestream had me reconsider I then did a bunch of side by sides and the S95D was the clear winner for gaming, for me in both the light and dark. I started off scoffing at the S95D and didn't even consider it

[@Bradli]

🤔Bravia 9 or G4... 🤔 Hmmm

[@บรรเลงเพลงเสียงสวรรค์]

Bravia9 🏆

[@profitfever]

Bravia 9 or A95L

[@bradmartin2675]

Here’s a question you should ask Samsung. When did the embrace the OLED technology when they said OLED would never be a thing and always based the technology?

[@techsamurai11]

They started making OLEDs for laptops - they pushed brightness high on them. My model says 400 nits and I was stunned how bright it was. It also has a super antireflective finish. I have a huge window behind it and it disappears completely. They must have realized how bright they could make TVs which they tried with the S95B but brought down the brightness.

[@GERRaze]

*What no one says is that the "out of the box" experience is tested...* The TVs aren't tested what they are capable of. Just go into the menu, tap here and there - boom, better than default. Also most of the judges are eye-deaf and use glasses, so they don't even see the reality as it is. So who are the real winners, if it's a fair contest - calibrated + normalized best settings? It could be Samsung, LG, Sony or whoever. No one tells us, cos in capitalism and selling bullshit "the most expensive is the best". But in reality, it's almost never like that. Also using a "reference monitor" - who's saying that the reference monitor is 100% accurate (it also needs calibration, cos it's not 100% the best!) and does it have the same processing and settings like the other TVs? Who says that a 50 reference in "something" is the same value as 50 on another device - the other device could raise "something" by 200-500% like sharpness/color. *Sony BVM-HX3110 reference monitor and Sony TV wins - I smell corruption or at least "same default settings = looks the same = 100% reference = win".*

[@MISTERMASTER1234]

A95L

[@marro2483]

Why is a95l in this if it’s a 2023 tv? This is stupid !

[@Kami84]

Because it’s still being sold new & is still competitive

[@sterlonb.digital777]

Another year of a contest to see which TV looks the most like the little Hollywood Sony TV

[@techsamurai11]

That’s a good point. They do use the Sony as a baseline. But how else could you grade them? Which of course means calibrated mode which we are now all experiencing with professional and Netflix and Amazon and are wondering why we ever wanted that in the first place. Hey, you love your TV but let me remove all the color from it, make the image flat to some standard that I came up with that makes whites pure and green, take out all the detail so it looks as bad as the source. Voila!

[@techsamurai11]

My guess is that the dark room winner will be the A95L unless some critical processing is disabled. The bright room winner will be the Bravia 9 unless they are looking at some mode that limits the TV’s potential. Once any LED flexes light on a bright screen with its 800+ nits full window, the Oleds just can’t keep up.

[@bigcdub]

Lmao, you said that right! On a "bright" screen, because on a black screen LED's would be a blooming mess...

[@techsamurai11]

​@@bigcdub there are plenty of videos comparing high end LED TVs vs OLEDs. The scariest one is Z9D in 2017 vs the LG. That had a contrast ratio of 7,000.

[@bigcdub]

@@techsamurai11 Yes, but let’s not forget that Oled has infinite contrast, it’s also self emissive, so each pixel generates its own light, whereas an LED panel must use a backlight, which inevitably produces blooming, worse viewing angles, less saturated color palettes…

[@techsamurai11]

@@bigcdub I don’t disagree that Oled is generally superior but can you clearly see it? Put your Oled next to an IPS panel during the day. It’s absurd how we cannot see the difference side-by-side. Even the iPad Pro and iPad Air, the biggest difference that reviewers noted isn’t the Oled Panel but FaceId as it impacts usability more.

[@bigcdub]

@@techsamurai11 Bro, I own a Samsung QN900B 8K set from a few years ago, also a A95L, A95K, 48" LG-C1, 55" LG-G4, and S95C, I love TV panel tech, and Oled is easily superior for me...

[@claykeough7898]

Unless you make millions(and even then), it's kind of dumb to get anything more than a mid level tv if you're mostly streaming or gaming on a console. Compression, motion and upscaling is still a major problem on streaming services even with the best tvs. Definitely dont go cheap but the 2k range is the sweet spot for now. You get bigger with most the quality given with streaming. The expensive tvs don't even get to use most their tech. 🤙 18:51

[@t.h.9897]

Got the G4. Great tv but compared to my C2, I hardly notice a difference irl. Just love the design so much, which stops me from cheating with Sony ❤😂

[@bloomerb4162]

Sonys special shootout FW update. Then there will be an update right after the shootout is over to reel it back in.

[@888YouCantHandle]

QD ftw lol MLA

[@Displays.1234.]

Barvia 9 definitely not a flagship, only a glorified LCD TV... Disgusted with Sony this year.... G4 a proper flagship... A95L a out of date flagship.... Samsung, the mat finish is completely dreadful....

[@007GoldenLion]

Bravia 9 is great but the G4 and A95L better

[@profitfever]

A95L is a much better TV than the G4. From a build quality and quality control standpoint I’d buy the A95L even if the G4 is considered brighter. The green tint off axis and vertical lines is something Sonys engineering tolerance would not allow for.

[@matttafakt]

And still no X95L vs any of these.. this is getting funny ! Tell me why the X95L has gone up in price? Also, there have been updates to the firmware. We all know the 85" uses a different screen. And We now have to wonder how much you guys are getting paid by Sony to push new inferior products over old since you both don't have real jobs. Seriously, how do you get paid an income, enough to survive on by just reviewing tv's ?

[@matttafakt]

Oh, and while you're at it .. why not review the Nakamichi Dragon vs other AVR's or so called "soundbars" lol ..

[@AllisonRoadWest]

@@matttafakt what the?

[@gwilson5106]

I can't take these seriously anymore honestly, a bunch of BS from Sony fanboys