Valve Cover and Valve Cover Gasket Replacement ~ MK5 GTI

Leaking valve covers, and valve cover gaskets are common. In this video I will show you step by step how to replace a valve cover gasket, or a valve cover. We will also cover the valve cover breather, or PCV valve built into this valve cover. Valve cover failure is common on the VW BPY engine. Thanks to FCP Euro for sponsoring this video and the MK5 Project.
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[@vh6354]

Thank you for this video! I did a valve cover swap and gasket replacement today and this video was money! Many thanks 🙏🏻

[@MrCupra79]

You are the only youtuber that answer questions! Excellent Job!Greetings from Hamburg Germany!

[@HumbleMechanic]

Cheers and thank you. 😎

[@kenny7220]

10 seconds in and already, absolute props to your B roll. Keep doing that stuff brah

[@HumbleMechanic]

[@deepbludude4697]

Nice upload, im working on my kids, buddy's 2007 GTi, plastic fantastic, I think they have gained an appreciation for my 1971 W200 power wagon.....

[@jhuntosgarage]

Complete and concise. No downside.

[@Ridestereo765]

Thank you for this video and breaking it down! Pretty sure my gasket is leaking and wanted to learn how to replace it and clean it. Appreciate people like you a lot 👊

[@iamjher]

I second this thought. My daughter wanted one, bought it cheap now I gotta help get it caught up on all the maintenance! Thanks for the help!

[@waqashussain2310]

Did it cause a loss of power

[@GandyMan2008]

Sweet thanks for the great vid. Can’t wait for all the other mkv GTI vids.

[@sergethomassian8119]

This is so helpful. Thank you, Humble!

[@HumbleMechanic]

thank you

[@dsiever1]

Another fantastic video! I always watch for videos that you make - they are the BEST!

[@therealderjett]

Your videos are some of the best I have found.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thank you so much.

[@alehksaj6635]

I just did this job today and I followed this and it went pretty well, thanks a lot

[@HumbleMechanic]

AWESOME

[@HeliconPath]

More vids like this! Love seeing work done on the MKV

[@HumbleMechanic]

thank you

[@cleanishmk5853]

Absolutely amazing video And very accurate about the coil pack clips 🤣

[@paudieb]

Thank you. just did mine following instructions from your vid. went great. cheers.

[@HumbleMechanic]

AWESOME!

[@jojodiver8706]

Thanks man. I'm an aircraft mechanic and a forty year gearhead. I'd be able to work through this myself, but having seen your video, it will make it much easier. Gotta do my grandson's Passat. OBDII says random misfires from all four. but valve cover is leaking from its periphery, so I'm thinking maybe the plug wells are full of oil and possibly causing the misfires. If a clean up and new gasket don't fix it, then I'll go ahead and put new coils and plugs in it. .

[@coolissimo69]

Hey Charles , thanks for another great video.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thanks !

[@gavinogorman6955]

Thanks Charles, legend, my mark 5 gti has 228000km on it, totally standard, am going to do the vcg myself but was nervous about it. Video is fantastic, will be a huge help. We don't get the amazing cars here in Ireland that ye do in the states. 200bhp is considered very powerful and cars are really expensive here. If your on a tight budget there is not much exciting to buy.

[@JustifyJustin]

How did it go? Im considering doing this myself and following the video. Im no mechanic but technically proficient. Worth a try of should I book it in at a mechanic?

[@jrbdtx]

If you're replacing this because your oil fill tube has completely broken off, be aware, you CAN simply install the oil cap directly to the valve cover. The filler neck was added to raise the fill cap up to the Jetta engine cover height, but on the Audi engines, this neck isn't glued on because there isn't a big cover.

[@therealderjett]

This is a great tip. Thanks.

[@georgebonney90]

i really like the channel ive been watching more and more over the past year,i kno im only goin to get good advice,thank u sir i really appreciate it

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thank you so much!

[@dantroche2606]

I been having some oil consumption issues/ burning oil and rough idle. Changed out the PCV, rear vent tube, spark plugs, and ignition coils. Still an issue. Learned from you to look into the Valve cover as its part of the PCV system and does fail over time. (Min 0:45) I ordered a new OEM valve cover. I examined the old valve cover and noticed it was warped and broken on the bottom. i stuck a small flashlight into one of the ports and you can actually see the light shining through. Happy i changed it out. Hope it helps with any oil consumption. The Engine definitely runs smoother. Thanks for all you do for your viewers and customers.

[@ethanheitz4489]

Was your burning smell absolutely putrid oil smell + excessive white smoke from exhaust? I'm fairly certain mine just blew today because the symptoms line up a bit too well. Car with also stutter and stall, crazy backfires too.

[@adampye9827]

​@@ethanheitz4489did you get it figured out with your gti?

[@ethanheitz4489]

@@adampye9827 Yep, thanks for asking bro. The valve cover gasket blew right around cylinder 1's spark plug well. I ordered a whole new valve cover from FCP just to be safe, since they're plastic and my shitbox has 284,000 miles 😅👍🏻 Cleaned the area, didn't focus too much on getting it perfect for install, just clean enough. No drips or valve cover related issues since. Ig these ea113's reaaally like to have positive crankcase pressure

[@jabarikellam]

Subscription ✔️.. I have a 09 TT 2.0 fsi with oily plugs in cylinder 3&4 just the video I needed

[@jabarikellam]

Took off the valve cover and it was cracked and had oil seeping through in cylinders 3&4..

[@theadventuresofjavier8698]

Good lord thats a long driveway. Back home there would have been 12 broken down impalas parked there. Great vid

[@HumbleMechanic]

HAHAH! It's like 94ft from the road to the garage door.

[@christopherlozano5660]

Damn dude, this video is so helpful, thank you so much Humble, you rock.

[@HumbleMechanic]

So glad it helps

[@basithph8958]

Thanks I lot now I know how to change gaskets

[@killamilla240]

What is the small hose at the back of the valve cover used for? Mine is old and stuck on the valve cover, so considering replacing it. Wondering what it does and how hard it would be to replace! TY, awesome videos!!

[@michalbobak7075]

thank you, this was very helpfull

[@HumbleMechanic]

Awesome, thank you

[@frankfluent]

Hey Charles hopefully you'll be able to see this I was wondering if on a MK6 GTI is it possible to swap the "rockers" without removing the camshafts? Like would there be enough play in between? Thanks!

[@laalaa99stl]

People: Please please please take Charles' advice on connecting the back hoses before screwing down the cover. The larger hose is a bitch and a half to move. I had to undo all the goddamned cover screws a second time to get that hose back on. In fact, I recommend re-attaching the band clamp (hose clamp in this video) before moving it so it doesn't pop off while you're positioning the cover. I don't understand why we need to mention the single use band on the larger hose. It doesn't seem necessary to mess with this clamp further back at all. Another tip: I found it helpful to follow the torque sequence even when initially inserting the screws. It just seems to go down easier that way. Finally, a small correction 3:32. That's not your timing belt cover. It's your serpentine belt inspection cover. Timing chain is on the right side. But I'm sure Charles knew that and misspoke. Awesome video!

[@carlosgaray9212]

Thanks for this video, I have a 2016 vw golf r. It has over 90k miles when I replaced the spark plugs I noticed oil seating on the spark plug. There is no oil outside how would I diagnose a leak? Thanks for your help

[@travisdunson987]

I am considering a billet valve cover. What do you do with the hoses that connect to the stock valve cover when upgrading to a billet cover? I understand there is a -10 AN for the catch can setup, but not sure where the other hoses go. I have a 2012 Golf R.

[@danielmedrano9083]

Very helpful. Suggestion... would you do a 2.0 TSI valve cover Thank you for these great videos

[@HumbleMechanic]

That is a whole different beast. That one is not really a valve cover as much as a camshaft bearing plate.

[@WayywayyH]

What do you think about using a pcv delete plate for this model?

[@CRIFLIFE]

BPY OH MY!

[@ffagilar2245]

Can you do a video on relocating the battery? For a cleaner looking engine bay? Or something else?

[@charlesedwards3577]

Anyway you can do the equivalent of this on a 2.0 TSI? I have a cambridge leak

[@chattier3042]

Please do a video on resealing the cam bridge

[@Slowcarfastbeans]

I dulled a couple picks to avoid lacerating a hose when breaking the bond.

[@peternedilsky9851]

Do you also need to replace the camshaft seal cap?

[@wesleyvanrheede4088]

So the mk5 and mk6 similar engines. Will the job be the same? I have a bit of oil leak and not sure where it's coming from, either this gasket or cam chain gasket. Any advice pls

[@manny4391]

Nice , you should do one from the pan oil , because I have Audi TT FSI wanna do it but still waiting for Video 😪

[@carlosalves4444]

New subscriber great channel by the way, quick question do you mot put any gasket sealant on before putting the valve cover on? I always thought thats the procedure? Can someone please explain? Thanks 👍😮

[@motorpsychohead]

Hi, I subscribed your channel ! I have a FSI engine and it's 200,000kms ! Do I need valves adjustment service ? Are you gonna do a video for that ? Thanks !

[@calvink3081]

Thorough 👍

[@HumbleMechanic]

thanks

[@maniirdzjr24]

Do you have a video for current gens

[@abdulbeany1894]

Hi can i spray brake cleaner around the cylinder to clean oil marks off thanks

[@akositsupzzzashbuksbot2835]

Good day sir did you remove also spark plug?

[@ethancollop4624]

Is there any way to do this without that torque tool? I need to replace mine but have no way of torquing the screws to exactly 10nm?

[@Angeli.]

Hi... What torque tool did you use in this video ... The electric torque

[@matthewsexton7478]

Have you checked the valves for carbon yet? Maybe consider doing a video on cleaning them properly.

[@HumbleMechanic]

I didn’t pull the manifold. This car has moved on to its new home with FCPEuro

[@RatchetWrenches]

if your looking for that video stay tuned for ours, were doing a carbon cleaning this month

[@RatchetWrenches]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/baSkcmttrMahmLc here’s a link to our carbon cleaning if you still need? Just wanna hey fellow VW owners out. Sorry to post on your channel humble but I figured I’d try to help

[@millhouse313]

Hey Humble, you should do a video, on the best way to release all the different wiring connections on say MKV etc. I can’t say how many I’ve busted the first one, not sure how to get it to release. Thanks!

[@HumbleMechanic]

That’s a great idea. The trick is to push in first. :)

[@ChewBaccaFlacka]

Hey man I have a 2013 GTI with around 60k miles I found oil in the spark plugs with so r corrosion that forms on the battery terminals. Any ideas on what it could be? The coils are not oem and I just ordered oem r8 coils since I don't like aftermarket crap on these cars. I was thinking the value cover gasket but the mk6 doesn't come with a value cover gasket so I'm lost lol.

[@Sneakerama17]

Please do a timing belt for FSI!

[@Sewer_surfin69]

What are symptoms of a bad gasket? I'm experiencing white smoke on acceleration and rough idling. I noticed small amounts of oil on my spark plugs. No codes. I'm reading it can be this or maybe a bad head gasket. Same year gti

[@emilianozapata8690]

Hey 2008 gli mk5 oil cap or vase broke ..u know if i need to buy cap or everything

[@keanufarias1030]

I have oil in 3/4 spark plugs , would this be cause by a bad gasket ?? I praying it’s not worse .. any feedback would be awesome great vid bud !!

[@destrolock81]

Need a video for the mk6

[@cleanishmk5853]

My man 👨

[@BryBryProduction]

Can you explain how to remove that oil filler nick that sits ugly on top of the valve cover gasket. Thanks buddy!

[@cozybeavis]

Thank you 🙏🏼 replaced the valve cover gasket yesterday. Was going through so much oil this past month and noticed leaking around the cover. The hoses were a pain ! If anyone is wondering I went to harbor freight to get an electronic torque wrench that gave me multiple measurement options including what you need …nms. Oh and get a pick & pry tool unless you wanna use different sized flat heads like I did (don’t recommend it). Any questions hmu @cozybeavismobile

[@maestro3820]

Hi, did you need to add any sealants when putting a new gasket?

[@nak8327]

BRM TDI Valve cover/tandem pump video request.

[@timjoo5690]

I did my spark plugs today and noticed quite a bit of oil in cylinder 1. Should I replace (1) just the valve cover gasket, (2) all the gaskets shown in this video, or (3) all the gaskets as well as the valve cover?

[@SISTIC1]

What if dirt fell into the rocker cover area; would the engine be compromised?

[@madmatt2163]

Jw I have a catch can do there is no pcv is there any difference?

[@Mich7ace]

Awesome as always Charles. Any updates to the mk4 R32? Cheers!

[@HumbleMechanic]

Not really any updates. I have just been driving it. :)

[@SuperGmann10]

The two hoses in the back...what exactly are they? I had a hell of a time getting the larger one back on! And its only on part way. But I just cant can't seem to get it to slide all the way home!

[@timjoo5690]

Thanks for the vid, I'll be tackling this later this week. I wasn't able to move the gasket off at all on my initial try. It might have been a combination of the engine being stone cold and being too afraid to loosen the bolts all the way. How far can the bolts be loosened before I worry about them falling off the cover and into the engine bay? Some other vids show quite a bit of struggling with the back two hoses (mine are on pretty tight unlike the ones on the vid)..

[@HumbleMechanic]

They hold on pretty tight. You’ll feel when then stop loosening it.

[@timjoo5690]

@@HumbleMechanic Thanks! Any other tips for the mechanically challenged for this particular job?

[@iCatchMedia]

Splendid video, thanks for the share. Although one thing keeps boggling me. When I look up the tightening sequence golf gti (2007 gti Edition 30) head gasket, I found a lot of schedules that state there needs to be 40NM on the bolts of the head gasket. Are you sure 10NM is correct??? Hope to hear from you, keep up the good work!

[@NOTaGLI]

VALVE COVER gasket and HEAD gasket. are 2 totally and very different things. If you try to torque the valve cover bolts to 40 nm you will twists the head off them.

[@Wiliuz]

Nice video! In the Uk, Vw wont sell only valve cover gasket, probably can get aftermarket one. When i replaced my injector loom on my 1.9 tdi, i overtighten one of the bolts to cover and it felt like it snapped and it just spins in place. Whats the best way to get it out. Thanks

[@HumbleMechanic]

That was the same here with the TDI. So silly.

[@gmendez2010]

I have been having issues with my 2012 Jetta SE 2.5L for some time now. It's an automatic and sputters when shifting up and jerks hard when downshifting, especially from 2nd the 1st. I use the OBDeleven reader and I keep getting the codes P3078 and P0106. I replaced the MAP sensor about 8 months ago and it seemed to have fixed the issue but then resurfaced. I recently replaced the PCV Valve Cover with gasket last week and cleaned the MAP sensor thinking it would resolve the issue but the check engine light came back on shortly after. Can you please recommend the next step to take to troubleshoot? Thank you.

[@GeorgyGobozov]

There is no gasket on mk7 just sealant. How do you think is camshafts/chain removal required to perform reseal or it can be done without camshafts/chain removal?

[@davetandy6008]

Thanks for the excellent video. A fine beard, too.

[@protectyourassests1028]

Would a bad and leaking valve cover gasket explain misfiring, stalling, rough idle, oil and carbon build up in the spark plug coils? Cause I got all of those things in my MK5 GTI.

[@honestgabe.]

Yes, if the oil gets in the spark plug well. (Edit: it doesn't cause corrosion. Obliviously... It'll definitely cause misfiring. Plus running the risk of engine fire.)

[@AJ-fq2lh]

thanks for the video, i did this today on my golf mk5 but when i removed the gasket it broke and some of it was glued in the middle section where the spark plugs are, when i took it off it was breaking into pieces and i think couple of very small pieces fell inside, would they cause any damage to engine?

[@jett-rampartflyer2852]

It shouldn't. Gasket material generally isn't hard enough to cause issues, unless the engine ate alot of it at once. Little pieces, no big deal. I once had a helper leave a microfiber rag inside an intake manifold once.. I installed it, didn't check to make sure passageways were clear.. sucked that rag around 2 valves. Spent the day nipping & melting at pieces of rag, hours & hours. Replaced 2 bent pushrods. Engine had 6,200 miles on it. Was a Chevy 5.3

[@dominickmonaco1237]

I have a 2012 Eos with 55k on it. Water pump ended up leaking on it due to the valve cover leaking down on the water pump seal. Took the VW to the VW dealership, they replaced both the Water Pump and the Valve Cover (1,374.00 - Valve Cover Gasket, no charge for the Water Pump). A few weeks later the service engine light went on after my wife took a sharp turn. After checking the dipstick there was no oil on dipstick, added 3 qts of oil to the car took it back to the dealership only to find out that the oil was being distributed into the turbo. I'm wondering when the valve cover gasket was replaced if damage was done to the PCV Valve and cause oil to leak in the turbo? Any thoughts

[@dingus8265]

Nice intro

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thanks. Always trying to have some fun with these videos.

[@mrbattyburger]

Ive been having a huge problem, mine blue/white smokes when the engine is under load, same when after ive been on full throttle when i let off, it lets a big puff of smoke out back, does this cause this problem?

[@Steve10091960]

Hey Charles, awesome vid! Is the procedure the same on a Mk VI?

[@HumbleMechanic]

No, that is a very different setup. That valve cover is more like a cam bearing plate.

[@Steve10091960]

HumbleMechanic thanks. My valve cover has started to weep a bit of oil after a head replacement last year. At least that’s the highest point on the engine that shows oil leakage.

[@davidvilchez2209]

Hey Charles can you please please please do a DIY for an mk6 gti valve cover?

[@HumbleMechanic]

It’s on the list for sure.

[@ameeramod4564]

Why don't you do the cambelt and timing chain replacement??

[@Danovic777]

I am completely new to GTIs and I was wondering what the part at 00:04 was

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

Do the electronic torque wrench need to be recalibrated after a few years like regular torque wrenches click style?

[@HumbleMechanic]

I think they usually recommend every few years like the clickers.

[@automedic9781]

They should only ever need to be calibrated if you have to put a circuit board in them. My Snap-On guy sold me mine by bringing the demo in, throwing it on the ground, and then putting it on the torque checker and showing me it was still 100% accurate. Sure enough I accidentally dropped mine a few months later and took it on the truck the next week, and still 100%.

[@lkto3493]

Do I need to use Permatex Super HIGH TACK Gasket Sealant on valve cover gasket

[@HumbleMechanic]

I’ve never used that on this valve over

[@wyattoneable]

I can't get over how much plastic are on German cars. Not to take anything away from your video, it was well documented and edited.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Oh yeah. There is TONS!! Most of it is actually fine. Some, not so much 😂

[@Poanoofd]

i fucking love meyle! great stuff!

[@xjsvg]

my engine has been misfiring random and on cylinder 4 and my plug is coated in oil, changed the fuel filter and thought it was the injector, but my mechanic said the problem was from this, :( i hear this might be a big money for the engine from my mechanic and i am very worried, but he told me that fixing the seals might fix it, does anyone have any advice on how to go from there

[@Wiliuz]

Just replaced mine but its leaking by tandem pump. Do i need to seal with sealant those corners by camshaft?

[@HumbleMechanic]

I usually don’t

[@HollywoodRoseJack]

Humble Mechanic, where did you get this intro soundtrack from? You remember the name?

[@HumbleMechanic]

It’s probably one from Final Cut Pro

[@5packplus2]

Charles what digital torque wrench brand are you using in this video? I assume its an older one.

[@HumbleMechanic]

It’s a Matco digi torque wrench. I don’t love it.

[@5packplus2]

@@HumbleMechanic Thanks! You mind sharing which one you do prefer to use?

[@millhouse313]

How would you know if you need to replace the gasket? I have a lot of oil debris all around the area, and have been having problems with high rpm, low acceleration type issues. I have, changed the HPFP pressure regulator, AND the HPFP itself now, and still the same issue. I am getting: P0171 (too lean) P0087 (fuel rail, pressure too low), etc. could it be the gasket possibly or?

[@HumbleMechanic]

Doubt it is the gasket causing the drivability issues. That usually only causes oil leaks

[@millhouse313]

HumbleMechanic so could the cover be cracked then? I also noticed that a vacuum line, that’s right beside the hpfp, has a giant crack where it connects at the top. (It’s literally the one you say don’t even look at, in your “how to change follower/hpfp” video). Could this cause the issues I’m seeing and or the CELs that I’m seeing? Thank you so much for your reply sir. I’m a big fan of your channel.

[@alfredosanchez5945]

my gas links lot what do I do

[@ulrichwillems6072]

@HumbleMechanic....is the procedure the same for TSI engine? Please let me know.

[@HumbleMechanic]

No. It’s very different

[@ulrichwillems6072]

@@HumbleMechanic ok thx man.

[@allanmichealsmith]

Next job new bonnet strut 😉

[@HumbleMechanic]

Haha I actually filmed a DIY on that 😂

[@kylestenger15]

How do Tech's know torque specs on certain things? Is there a book?

[@HumbleMechanic]

Yep repair manual is my go to.

[@808smycarbreaks_9]

Is their a metal aftermarket valve cover you can put on it

[@HumbleMechanic]

Maybe. But i haven’t really looked into it.

[@AKaz220]

www.performancebyie.com/integrated-engineering-2-0t-fsi-billet-valve-cover

[@nicholusfrancis4766]

So when taking off the valve covering gasket are u messing with the timing ?

[@HumbleMechanic]

Not on this engine

[@Alexplained]

Did my valve cover and PCV gaskets a few weeks ago...but I stripped the bolt farthest to the rear right. Would taking the whole cover off again be the best way to drill that out? Next time, I am not converting Nm to lb-ft!

[@HumbleMechanic]

yes. But dont start with drilling, see if you can chase the threads first. 10 NM is 7.4lb ft

[@Alexplained]

@@HumbleMechanic Thanks much! I'll be honest, I had tried to drill it out with the cover on the car. Have a feeling I may have damaged the surrounding aluminum. How could I go about repairing that?

[@HumbleMechanic]

Probably a heli-coil at this point

[@Alexplained]

I thankfully stopped before the threads inside the head itself. What do you recommend if I have to fill in anything around the bolt hole?

[@wikingo808]

I did this job and now I have codes P0507 and p0171, new HPFP new HP fuel sensor, new PCV valve, no signs of damaged vacuum leaks or anything! HELP. Any chance there is a vacuum leak in the actual valve cover gasket??

[@diegohenriquez694]

So I have been trying to find this smell of burning oil on my mkv Jetta gli for the longest time, I have rebuilt the vacuum pump it's not leaking. I have looked at the valve cover but I don't really see any noticeable oil around it. Any idea what could this be? No check engine light.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Maybe the exhaust is leaking? OR the oil filter housing.

[@DiabloRMCF7]

Did a mistake ..forgot to tuck in the bigger hose before I torqued the cover ..

[@alexmartineau1060]

mind doing a mk7 gti?

[@HumbleMechanic]

It’s in my video list. However this is so much more in-depth than mk5. You technically have to mess with engine timing