VAN BATTLE! Ford E350 vs Ford Transit - Cost conscious ways to get your van life on!

[@Joshsams89]

Personal opinion is, 10k buys a decent amount of fuel, and mods. Idk, standing upright is cool, but nothing makes me more comfortable than 10k in my pocket. Lol e350 for me, if you haven't picked up on it. I'm also a guy that enjoys customizing my vehicles, I weld, and do carpentry, basically if it can be built, I'll build it unless the cost offsets the build.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Haha right on man! That's kinda why we went Econoline! Plus they do look way cooler.

[@dpdiver1]

And they look even cooler when you do a 4 x 4 swap plus way more capable.

[@DanOnWheels]

Also consider the Econoline is body on frame where the Transit is unibody. The Econoline has different axles and springs when you go from E150 to E350, but there isn’t much difference in a Transit between a T150 and T350.

[@RobertJLessard]

The transit is the worst on dirt/gravel roads. E350 with a loft and 4x4 conversion is what I'd take.

[@lunasmovingcompanymovingst6152]

I own both of these for my small business. $52k. 14k miles 2019 3.2l turbo diesel Transit mid high roof. $11k. 55k miles (it was ATT fleet) 5.4 CNG 2011 e350 Only used for worth though. Transit is 10x more comfortable, more visibility, better steering double the power AC. Im old school though so i love the e350. Also at $1.71! per gallon equivalent, the e350 is a money saver!! Especially these days

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks for the input, awesome to hear it.

[@lilmissdaydreamer4741]

I am SO happy to see that you kept the rear heat/AC in the E350!! I will be building out my van soon and I really want to keep mine installed. I am in my van year round in central Utah so the rear heat and AC is extremely helpful. I love my 2008 E350!! ❤😎👍

[@TheLoamWolf]

Good luck and thanks for watching.

[@mommakscafe]

Great info, thanks! We ended up with the e350 15 passenger van also and are converting it ourselves in stages, firstly did suspension upgrade. It is my everyday vehicle as also. We Went w/ e350 model over the sprinter or transit b/c of the unibody construction vs steel beams running the length of the e350. Something to consider. We are in our mid fifties. I am 5 feet, hubby is 6 feet. We live out of, not in, the van.

[@socalcraigster]

I just got a 2000 E350 xlt V10. Thanks for the info.

[@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss]

Such a fun time, thanks for making this video!

[@TheLoamWolf]

Heck yeah man. It was a blast

[@oswaldojangel3336]

Jeff is always nice i remember ride with jeff in the old RV pulling a trailer

[@randomthoughts1001]

E350 all the way. They don't just look better , they're better machines. 5.4 is bullet proof. This E350 looks great.

[@maz_mtb3266]

Econoline is rad, but even in my mid 30s and being a car person, the Transit wins for the comfort and convenience factors! I only have a tent currently, but dug around for a while to find one tall enough, and affordable(yet not garbage quality), to be able to stand up to change. haha

[@Noondog]

Every van has its style and function. Even the soccer vans I suppose haha. You guys deserve an upgrade if you want it. Survived 2020! Big things in ‘21. Invest in ourselves!

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks man! Much appreciated.

[@mtnbikertaz]

Transit AWD is on my down the road list. Just don't go sprinter. I had an 08. (Was a Dodge...before Mercedes took it back) That thing was awesome til it wasn't. About the time it wasn't I had stopped traveling as much anyway so I am back to the ol reliable Tacoma with topper and roof top tent. 259k miles and still killing it with 21mpg. Love your RockyMounts set up. I have similar in my trailer but on short boards so I can move /stagger them around my dirt bike. Great video guys! Love the DIY bits.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Awesome Taz. Thanks for the compliment and stoked to hear you've got a similar set up. Bummer to hear about the Sprinter. It wasn't quite on the list anyhow, but we've heard a few things like that.

[@WesternSpiritCyclingMoab]

Great video. We've been "testing" vans here in Moab for 30+ years now and they all break at some point - Ha! About five years ago we switched our fleet over from E350's to Transit 350's and haven't looked back. Ours are low roof 15 passenger models that are strictly for moving bikes & people. Low roof so it's easier to load 15 bikes (or e-bikes)-oof.. on the roof and getting folks to the trailhead. And gotta have Eco-boost to haul all that weight from 2,000' in St. George, UT up to the North rim of the Grand Canyon at 9,000' - while towing a trailer full of food, camp gear and beer for a week. Needles to say we give them a proper workout. Someone should do a video showing all the different shuttle vans of Moab - there's at least 8 companies. Cheers!

[@TheLoamWolf]

Hey guys! That's awesome and we've definitely thought about all the time we've spent bouncing around in shuttle vans all across the USA! Appreciate the feedback and good to hear the longevity for such abusive use that you guys do. How many miles are on your 5 year old vans? Any turbo or block issues? suspension holding up etc? We like the story idea though. Maybe we'll be coming back for a van tour of MTB shuttle companies...

[@CortJohnson]

Good for on road- terrible for offroad

[@outerbike]

@@TheLoamWolf We just traded in two 2016 Transit 350's and they each had about 80,000 miles on them. No issues on the turbos or block, but some other fun challenges for sure. We miss the old ones from time to time, but the Transits seem to be a step in the right direction.

[@Epluribusunom6166]

E- class no questions ask 🔝

[@solraccccc]

Let me say this. My dad owns a 2007 e350 and drives about 5-8k miles a month with it. He also tows at maximum capacity. He does an oil change every month. He has never had any major problems. The van has 600k miles. He brought it with 110k.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks for the story! Sounds about right. These Econolines are bullet proof.

[@nancyst.john-smith3891]

I love that story and that your dad is out tooling around. I bought a 2008 E 350 a couple of months ago with108k miles. I plan on driving the tires off it! It’s a passenger van, so I took out the seats and put in a cot, table, chair, luggable loo, ice chest and a cabinet. All stuff I already had from a lifetime of camping. Loaded up the dog and went for a 3 week, 3000 mile tour of the southwest. It was a lot of fun!! I even went to the Tahoe Van Expo. Hubby is totally supportive and wants to stay home tinkering in his shop. We are retired and enjoying life! PS, I got 15-16 mpg driving the speed limit.

[@frenchfryfarmer436]

@@nancyst.john-smith3891 you'll probably only ever need transmission swaps, and sometimes the 5.4 will spit a spark plug out, needing an experienced mech. who's "been there, done that". Mine has 230k, fresh tranny 20k ago. And one spark plug repair. A heli coil is the easy fix, evidently there is a better fix, I will ask the mechs. at my local ambo service what that is (fleet of 80 rigs) ...they've done it ALL to the e series.

[@frenchfryfarmer436]

@@nancyst.john-smith3891 I ran 6000k in November out to Cali. I got 14.5-16 with a medium high topper loaded E-350 to the gills.

[@AverageYoutubeEnthusiast]

Is there something wrong about e250 or 150?can't find anyone commenting about these

[@rickgreen417]

I was thinking of putting a pop top on my 04 E350. I hadn't thought about the tent on top ?? Wonder if there is a comparison video on that? Lol. Great rigs guys. Thanks for sharin!

[@cynful19]

I have a 1992 E350 CamperVan that I am able to stand in. I get that NÉWER vans have more bells & whistles but I would NOT have been able to get into the van market if I had to spend an additional $10k. Your van is sick and practical. If you can affo I’m rd to spend more - go for it. I love your front rig upgrades- it looks SO modern. Paint job is 💣 bomb. 🚎

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks a lot!

[@ellenmcgarry6722]

Love both but the look of the E definitely is the my liking. Any thought on the pop top thing?

[@MrRettich1]

CCV does the best pop top conversion

[@JimTMcDaniels1]

The best insulation is the polyfil, either loose or batting(good for between the ceiling and headliner). It's basically made from recycled shredded 2 liter soda bottles. It's the same thing found inside your bed pillows. It's mildew resistant and non absorbent. PLUS you simply get it for FREE. Inside abandoned pillow top sofas and chairs. Easily found next to apartment dumpsters and behind thrift stores. A utility knife cuts the fabric open to reveal it inside. The batting can be found on top of foam cushions inside. It's surprisingly clean and just to be sure, rinse it off outside with your garden hose and let dry. Take care

[@christianholmstedt8770]

Thx for the video tour. Rocking the E350 15 passenger version with the V10. Did a 6000 mile trip in the west and averaged 14.4 mpg but stayed at 65 mph max. Built a hanging kitchen on the barn doors. Perfect adventure setup. A Sportsmobile style pop-top would be cool but way too expensive.

[@JT-ov2yr]

I have a stock E150 4.6L Chateau, I consistently average 23.1 mpg on the highway at 65-75 mph, 19 mpg city driving, I do drive somewhat for mpg so I am gentle on the right foot. I have always been amazed at the mpg this Ford van gets for its size and its wind resistance. I have had many different vans my entire life and I never had a van get this type of mileage, even in the mini van that I currently own and have had other mini vans in the past that have never been this good on th mpg. I am really liking the 750+ mile range per tank of gas this van gets on trips, wow.

[@danielleclair1360]

I am no mechanic but this is what I have gathered from experience and research. 1. The Transit has a better design both aesthetically and as far as room is concerned. 2. The Transit is better on fuel. 3. There has been alot of complaints about the transits reliability and I have no doubts there will be more as time goes on. 4. The Transit is underpowered and does not have the same payload being a V6 engine. 5. Transits, Promasters, Sprinters seem to be a better fit for 'vanlife' due to the Cabin size, however the Econoline, Savana and Express are cheaper, more reliable and there are ways to increase cabin space. Like a popup roof or buying an ooder conversion can like a Starcraft or Express.

[@yangionet8116]

Transit better design aesthetically ?Wtf

[@lilymae859]

Love both budget builds! Thank you for sharing all the tips for both vehicles, especially the ambulance accessories ...so smart! These two vehicles are my first choice based on the deal I can find. Really enjoyed the humour... gunna sub to both of your channels 💯😊

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks very much Lily! We appreciate it and happy hunting on your next van!

[@frenchfryfarmer436]

So we have a local Emergency Service that is semi rural. They run a fleet of 80-90 vans over 2.5 counties. I know the mechanics. They HATE HATE HATE the new Promaster (front wheel drive) AND the new Transit (rear wheel dana 80). They are extremely hard to work on ...taking 5-7 times longer to swap out transmissions. The Dana 80 is hung from some silly boxed sheet metal (not full framed anymore) We live in snow country....that isn't gonna cut it 5-8 years in....it'll rust away. We have just bought the last two hightop (medium height) wheel chair vans. A 2011/2013 E-350s. . I just got back from a cross country job, six weeks ..took my XR650 and hung it off a custom rear bumper I made. I LOVE these Econolines. They are as common as pond water and you can parts ANYWHERE....and everyone our there knows how to work on them. They are the ultimate sport utility vehicle. Gonna throw an axle under the front of mine next summer.....until then...studded tires ROCK!

[@TheLoamWolf]

Heck yeah man. Solid feedback thanks.

[@5.43v]

E350 cutaways still exist so go order one with a custom body

[@lindvallpaul9861]

still daily drives a Ford econoline 5.0L -150 from 1984. just love the car

[@jeremiahsatterlee3940]

E-350 is a beautiful truck platformed badass van that looks and sounds beautiful, the Transit is a crossover car platformed van and is gutless

[@1voiceofstl]

Transit is NOT a crossover

[@pagosa1040]

I've owned both. I still own the e350. If you plan to spend a lot of time on dirt roads, knocking around in rough country, the transit will be a disappointment. It's too light , under built for western US boondocking. I've owned 3 E series vans starting with a 1978. For toughness there's no comparison. I could go on with a list on the poor engineering ford put into the transit. I'll just say " never again".

[@pp3k3jamail]

💥💥 I rather have the Econoline E350 , these newer vans look weird like the hymers the promasters the Ford transits the Mercedes sprinter vans they're ugly to me I like vans like the Ford Econoline, Chevy Express, GMC explore or Dodge ram van from 80s, 90s early 2000s

[@pp3k3jamail]

💥💥 I rather have the Econoline E350 , these newer vans look weird like the hymers the promasters the Ford transits the Mercedes sprinter vans they're ugly to me I like vans like the Ford Econoline, Chevy Express, GMC explore or Dodge ram van from 80s, 90s early 2000s

[@AEMoreira81]

The major reason the Transit was brought here is because the E-Series has used the same chassis since 1975 (with only one major body change in 1992).

[@AEMoreira81]

@@pp3k3jamail -- The Sprinter really changed the game. However, the Sprinter also has a ton and a quarter version available (the Sprinter 4500).

[@keithfoulks2657]

I have both. Love both engines. No eco boast either. Love my 5.4 too. Same fuel as you. 14 mpg. Sometimes I get 19mpg on the Transit. My E-350 is a Pleasure Way Excel. Bath, kitchen at 62 is where I need to be for travel.

[@DeadsetYT]

Ones got a lightning bolt.....Easy winner right there.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Haha. We aren't going to argue with you there!

[@mikeh5034]

The older you get, the more you will appreciate being able to stand up and get dressed. IMO

[@TheLoamWolf]

True that! Already feeling it. haha.

[@stevejeffrey11]

yea my high top g20 is like 6 foot 3 high on the inside even with insulation, it is fiberglass doesn't weigh much & the fuel economy is not much worse, standing up to cook is awesome , can even do yoga in there

[@razor3003]

Just add a pop-top...best of both worlds!

[@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX]

@@razor3003 that's what I plan on doing

[@jamesdelap4085]

And the more money you SHOULD have.

[@JLambinator]

I have both. One for MTB trips with my wife and kids (Transit) and the other built as a Moto van and more camping (econoline). Pros and cons of both for sure, but hard to argue with the significant initial cost of the van. 40k vs 10-15k. Can get a much bigger lift under the econoline. Ecoboost motor outperforms the 5.4l though gas mileage is laughably similar. I did passenger version for both, like the flexibility with seats, rear AC, rear 12v, windows. Great vid :)

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks and awesome insight!

[@JLambinator]

@@TheLoamWolf If you haven't already, try a tuner on the E350 from someone like 5star tuning. You can get one with "eco" for better mileage, "performance" for giving it more balls and "tow" for better shift point when pulling a camper up a pass. It's noticeable improvement all the way around.

[@Scrambler85]

I picked up a 2021 E350 cutaway van with a 14'5 box and 84" of headroom with a width of 80" It has the gas motor 7.3 and gets a whopping 12.9 mpg. 13,000 lb tow rating. When you're 5' 16" tall headroom is important.

[@razor3003]

I like those but my insurance guy doesn't. Any problems in that dept?

[@bushy9780]

if I went the econoline/work van route, I would absolutely rubber mat (yoga mat material) the ceiling because i know i would be constantly bumping my head

[@papajonn87]

I am about the buy a 06 e350 Friday. I love y’all’s set ups. I really hope I get this van.

[@flowrob6861]

Which one is for depends on numerous unknown. I'm 70 living on SS & small pension . A car payment & Higher insurance is insane for me . It would b Renting . I paid less 2k$ plus 2.5k$ build out . Standing up isn't all that.

[@stephaniebooth6169]

The Ford Transit is a POS , The Ford Econoline Van is the BEST Van Every made

[@brmstn69]

Except for the GM G series...

[@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss]

Sad face....

[@castirondude]

Agree. The Econoline is built like a pickup truck. The Transit is essentially a large minivan.

[@TheLoamWolf]

@@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss Hahaha. turn that frown upside down trailboss

[@ChillkootMarkowee]

@@brmstn69 honestly all of the old American truck style vans are very well built.

[@jamesdelap4085]

CONTRACTORS' metal shelving and lockable cabinets: SUPER USEFUL and PRACTICAL.

[@faceinthecrowd5810]

I’ve had 5 vans, currently have a 1997 GMC 1500 conversion Savana that we use for an everyday driver and an adventure camper van. Love a 5.7 V-8, I added magna flow dual exhaust out the back, sure the gas mileage of average 14ish MPG could be better but truthfully the new 6’s will get better but my GMC was a paid for 10 years ago and I can buy 2 more GMC/Chevy for the cost of one transit/ pro master. On of my favorite pastimes is to ignore trends and innovate with what’s older and create value while enjoying the same experiences that others may pay triple to do……that’s just me, I dont want a white van.

[@mac.8184]

One of my favorite past times all my life too but never thought of it as a past time. Still have my 1998 Jeep Cherokee Sport that I purchased new. Finally have the $$ to give it some TLC. Still a great ride. #emotionallyattachedtomyoldjeep

[@kennethjacot8586]

really different vans for different purposes. I have had 5 ford vans, 2 dodges, 3 chevys. Prefer the Fords. Presently have a 04 E350 and a 2019 Transit medium roof 3/4 ton. The E series is more heavy duty. the transit is available with all wheel drive and a diesel option. I don't go off road, so rear wheel drive is fine. The Transit drives much nicer, more comfortable and gets 18mpg vs 11mpg. Transit is much roomier inside with 5' 10" interior height. I use the transit as a diy camper, works great. The E series is superior for hauling. Just depends on your intended use.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks for all the insight and good info!

[@youtubemademecreateanewcha6965]

Depends on if you need to tow anything bigger than a pop up trailer and if you need to store it in a garage. For me the v10 E350 does what I need.

[@MrWeirdBeard8]

Could you please point in the direction where you got the ambulance aux battery mount? Can’t find it on the google. Awesome build!

[@peripateticfeat3805]

Have you considered a high-top? Fiberine in LA has diff top heights.

[@dubblearr7622]

The grass isn’t always greener. Both are cool.

[@TheLoamWolf]

True words! Thanks for the reminder

[@gerrynicholas2920]

I have a Moto build. I’m in Ohio and we have no emissions checks etc. I took the catalytic converters off and there isn’t much emission control to begin with. I’m a averaging 16-20mpg with the 5.4 v8. It gets lowest in the mountains of West Virginia. Cruise control set at 75-80

[@T.R.S.D.]

Great, after going back and fourth between getting the transit or the promaster. I am now going to look at the Econoline Decisions! Love the video!

[@TheLoamWolf]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching. Econolines are sweet!

[@piciu256]

Dude Ford Transit is a lot nicer vechicle than the promaster (Fiat Ducato etc.) there are quite a lot of small but annoying things that are just poorly made in the Ducato. Also, imo rear wheel drive is better than front wheel drive in this type of vechicle.

[@jasonwistaff]

The best part of the Transit is that you can stand up in it if you’re 6 foot or under. I hate having to bend over or sit for everything.

[@rhysxj]

15:40 lol nice shot at the bow tie boys

[@TheLoamWolf]

Hahaha.. FOMOCO for life!

[@thim8009]

About like me, I have a high rise topper on ram diesel with 2- 3 foot by 6 foot thule boxes over the cab, 325 watts of solar over topper, I tore out back seat and turned it into kitchen. I like the set up, but no privacy. Have a little buddy heater and a pop up shower tent, but still pretty chilly taking a shower at 20 to 40 degrees. Been thinking about 4 wheel off road camper where everything is inside and can stand up. Problem is a camper cost twice as much as your van

[@TheLoamWolf]

That definitely is a problem!

[@shawnames2271]

Such a helpful video - I really like the way you guys did these conversions. I would be proud to be seen driving either one. Haven't bought an adventure van yet, but I am waiting for the right time of life to pull the trigger. I'm almost an empty-nester so soon, I hope! What size (quarts) is your CSI Black Ice?

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thank you! appreciate the comment and glad you enjoyed it.

[@Pescador2022]

Nice Vans...on the E350 I am thinking... 2.5 lift and loft and 4x4 conversion. Good video. Thank You

[@TheLoamWolf]

That would be our ideal set-up too, plus a diesel swap to eek out a little more power and a few more MPG's. One day maybe.

[@davidhughes4728]

I love the video keep up the good work man

[@dattran6372]

For the mpg on the Transit is he converting to compensate for the tire size difference between stock? He's probably getting better mileage than he thinks.

[@robertmc8897]

Who makes the swing-away bike rack! Both builds are great thanks for sharing!

[@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss]

That's made by 1-Up but I've seen a few other manufactures make them, they're awesome!

[@jonlosito2004]

I would definitely choose the e350 over the transit cuz it's much more capable, durable and reliable even for massive adventures and for working. I would much rather have a regular V8 or even a V8 diesel over an EcoBoost v6 that they put into all their vehicles that dont necessarily last long.

[@rickgreen417]

Talk about the window security screens

[@benjaminrush4443]

I should have bought an E Series before Ford stopped making the Van. Ford Tough. With COVID, the E Series went through the Roof for an older one. E Series are built Ford Tough. Only thing missing in the E Series is 4 X 4. I just missed a Wheelchair Ambulance - High Top -2012- Just a Red Paint Strip - 5.4 V8 - 100 K - Oh Well. Oct 2021. Thanks for the Video.

[@JP-ln8bu]

I have an old school bus we made into a mini woody tour bus for the kids but might get rid of it.

[@jimperry4420]

The Transit is already having trans troubles and front end problems. One of our customers bought a fleet of them and they are not happy.

[@bushy9780]

which year? 2020? were they the new AWD version? I was leaning towards the transit cause i thought Ford were most reliable when it came to trucks/vans. I would like more info, thanks

[@jimperry4420]

@@bushy9780 2020 models. Not all wheel drive.

[@bushy9780]

@@jimperry4420 ty

[@vrahiotes]

Hey there! Noticed your swinging bike rack on the transit - would you happen to have a the info or link for the rack?

[@eduardolerma0303]

Looking for the ambulance box for the secondary battery on the 2010 e350, do you happen to have a link to where to buy it?

[@TheLoamWolf]

There' s one on ebay right now for $20. but here's a link in case that's gone. www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-battery-tray-4c2z10769aa?origin=pla&gclid=Cj0KCQiArvX_BRCyARIsAKsnTxOJgpqGINMY9kWztXuKqLJElmcoOCIcNtrb_A7B2fvv7WbCFZn3WjEaAuEdEALw_wcB

[@rschreck876]

Btw... rolling a 99 Econoline with 341,000+ miles on it.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Heck yeah! Keep it rollin

[@jackshephard8954]

best econoline series

[@madison1446]

Jeff might be crouching rather than "standing up" at about 2:30 (while positioning himself onto the two back seats) and later (while positioning himself on the garage seat). It might be wolf, not Jeff, that states that six-foot-four can stand up in the Transit. Of course, standing upright is more of a concern for someone living full-time in a van.

[@pcwizzy460]

The Econoline name was dropped in 1999 in favor of E-series.

[@raytango171]

Great video. Pros and cons for each.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Thanks for watching!

[@captnhuffy]

My config: RV, small 20ft, fully self contained, all the bells and whistles including kitchen, toilet, shower, 3 batteries, generator, AC, heater, awing. 2 mtn bikes on the ladder outside, on rare occasion I'll have two more bikes inside on the couch , ktm MC on ultimate MX hauler in 2" receiver, tent in closest in case I have guests.. 95% of the time: just me & my EXCELLENT Border collie mtn biking pupper. 12mpg. Limitation is poor ground clearance :(

[@NerdsonDirtMTB]

Lemme know if you sell the 350 lol!! Great vid, got a lot of ideas for van #2 coming early next year!

[@TheLoamWolf]

Awesome man! We'll be sure to post it for sale here first!

[@CK-831]

I have your exact e350xlt and I LOVE IT!!!! So, you terminated the rear side vent at the roof? Does it just blow from there or what? I do love your roof! Not all e350s have the 2nd battery but mine does, as well!!!! I just got this thing and That’s next in my list! No major reno until the spring/summer. Thanks!!!

[@crankycorner16]

I have a Frankenstiena van... so, I am fairly impressed with the e350. Keep it.

[@xyz3po]

What are those molle panels or window guards inside e350? Thanks!

[@ronisworld2916]

what model is the Transit? those wheels are sick!

[@JRMooreMusic]

On your E350, did you buy those wheels, or are they the stock wheels painted black? I can’t really see it close enough to tell.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Stock steelies painted black.

[@rajeshdayal5182]

The FORD E350 IS sickkkk 🔥🔥. Imagine putting some aftermarket wheels on it. And Custom tailights. Can be found on Amazon ^. But yea can I get a reply plzzzzz

[@walkingman636]

Spend $10k on yours in upgrades, better seats, custom cabinets, bike slides off the ceiling, etc. To stand up inside only means one is not outside. The goal, outside.

[@TheLoamWolf]

Haha. True words! Definitely worth thinking about there.

[@CortJohnson]

. Nicely said

[@thomasbarlow4223]

Without a doubt the E350 with power stroke diesel 4x4 any day of the week this isn't even a comparison.... absolutely love my 2001E4507.3L.... wouldn't trade her for the world. Even at 308,000miles she's still happy as a pig in shit!

[@edgardeluna6572]

You could install a pop top roof so you can stand inside and you keep the nice E-350 (bad ting is that you would have to eliminate the rag storage)

[@HeavyMetal50]

As a line the van 🇺🇸Econoline V8💪🏽👆🏽 👊🏽is more beautiful

[@dingakasteve]

You must be enjoying that Delano, I see you always have it with you.

[@gbshenanigans6952]

Anyway you guys can get a altitude vs meta am 29 ohlins?

[@ansv3340]

Most commonly used motor on police cars and taxi cabs crown vics, was the 4.6L it outruns 5.4l, 5.4l is same as 4.6 they just put bigger jugs So more stress on the crank and 5.4 has slightly shorter life vs 4.6l, but i got about 500K miles on both motors , in my econolines ,

[@TheLoamWolf]

Interesting! Drew owned a couple Interceptors from mid 2000s with the 5.4 in them. the injectors and other hop ups sure wake those things up.

[@ansv3340]

@@TheLoamWolf should have mentioned one important detail, that both of my vans are pre 2003. 1999 and 2000 respectively. 2 valve per cyl. motors. When ford went with 3 valve in their tritons, it kind of killed their reliability. they still last long but not as long and requite little more maintenance, . And stay away from Transit. their transmissions dont live past 100 k

[@teefish23]

I would say upgrade but hey, you are "The" Loam Wolf. Dance to your own drum!

[@TheLoamWolf]

Haha... You bring up a solid point.

[@befree4223]

Get a high roof conversion for the e350 .... 3-$4000 ish

[@MrRettich1]

Pop top from CCV is the best starting with ~1.5k

[@jamesdelap4085]

To much ish.

[@rajeshdayal5182]

Some of the ford van come with the high roof

[@derekgilger6243]

Can you tell me the website that you got the extra battery tray at please because I also have a Ford Econoline and I like to add a second battery as you know there's no room under the hood

[@TheLoamWolf]

To anyone else looking, search frame mounted E350 battery tray. There's on on ebay for $20 right now but here's another link in case that ones gone. www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-battery-tray-4c2z10769aa?origin=pla&gclid=CjwKCAiAl4WABhAJEiwATUnEF7CNfjT1aB0M0IzeLxrnKv0L0-vfPCSTz9NJgQ2XG43scFj1sc7Y0hoCzqAQAvD_BwE

[@NorthernKitty]

Any chance you can link the company where you got that van shelving unit from for your E-350? 😊

[@markchickenbutt8740]

American van has lots of shelving and roof racks.

[@youtubemademecreateanewcha6965]

Ford should offer a hi top E350 extended van. Put the v10 back in it too.

[@TheLoamWolf]

And factory 4x4

[@rschreck876]

Econoline all the way. Cheaper to fix if needed. Way more dependable. Cheaper. More badass looking.

[@pp3k3jamail]

💥💥 I rather have the Econoline E350 , these newer vans look weird like the hymers the promasters the Ford transits the Mercedes sprinter vans they're ugly to me I like vans like the Ford Econoline, Chevy Express, GMC explore or Dodge ram van from 80s, 90s early 2000s

[@LuisHernandez-so7qt]

I will never change my Econolines😎

[@giterdun1864]

There is no VS. Econoline is a truck. With a Frame. The end.

[@williamrobinson6680]

E350 Diesel, period. ($4450 '08) 428,000 mi. No windows, cavernous beast. Room to spare. 17 - 22 mpg. Experiment with fuels...25-mpg. (Truck stop BP) Laughs at overweight, lugs loaded uphill like a locomotive. Steers the interstate like on a rail. Behaves better loaded. Purchased post the "6.0 maintenance nightmare". In which case, I am sure a Transit is much more forgiving. Otherwise, E350 near perfect.

[@TheLoamWolf]

We'd love to get a diesel one but the horror stories scare us!

[@williamrobinson6680]

@@TheLoamWolf I stumbled upon my '08 extended Super Duty diesel E350 on a drive after church one Sunday. I met with the seller and having 400k + high miles, I was able to negotiate a very nice $4450 "on the road" deal. Fortunately for me, with 400k miles, everything had already been done to it, including fresh tranny and new suspension springs! Test drive did reveal a vibration. No problem. Two new Moog u-joints were installed in the deal. Granted, ...tons of nice van's out there, but fuel expenses ed are killing everyone. While my diesel at 17 - 25 mpg, it's a no brainer what my daily driver is. It still amazes me. But you are absolutely right. There is no rational justification for diesel powerplant replacements costs up to $15,000. That is painful to even a rich man. Ultimately the only common sense reason to select a diesel over gas is when it is your bread and butter. If the truck is making you easy 6-digits + income anually, then sure. $8000 to $15,000 is maintenance you will eventually see a financial return on. Growing up I have witnessed two groups/owners of abandoned Ford vehicles. V-10 Excursions (unbearably awful fuel mileage) and failed puked out 6.0/6.4 Ford diesels. Just park it.

[@ericcullars8434]

Nice e350 van I have 2 batteries on my frame and have them set in parallel (100 ah apiece)

[@jim6335]

One question, does the E350 have enough room for your hair gel?

[@TheLoamWolf]

Who uses hair gel! haha. It's all about Murray's Pomade.

[@jim6335]

@@TheLoamWolf 🤘

[@razor3003]

@@TheLoamWolf "Oh Brother" LOL

[@TheLoamWolf]

@@razor3003 "My hair!"

[@mikemanjo2458]

You can get a good deal on the 15 passenger vans b/c many states have outlawed them for use by churches, schools and any public use b/c of the rollover issues and liability issues. I’d go with the Transit for that reason alone.

[@1966johnnywayne]

It's a good thing that Ford went ahead and installed a faux vent hole on the lower portion of the Econoline's front bumper for off road lighting...or maybe you're starving your transmission cooler of fresh air flow by completely filling in that opening???

[@TheLoamWolf]

We see what you did there... Luckily we don't tow anything with the van so it's slightly less worrisome than if we had a big van loaded with toys or 15 humans instead of one person and 4 bicycles.

[@kohort1]

You could spend more than the van price to get a pop top installed

[@michaelchanez3790]

My e350 I bought for $4000 pushin 8mpg lol I’m ending up buying a transit and will save money over the coarse of 100k miles after repair and fuel

[@craigwiess1656]

Have several E350s, test drove Transit hated it. I do all my own work on the vans. Had an alternator go out 300 miles from home takes under 20 minutes to replace.

[@keldonator]

I really expected the transit to get way better mpg than that. My old 1ton Chevy express got 13mpg... It could tow 10k lbs.

[@ryanmiller4890]

What made you go with the E350 vs a Chevy Express?

[@MichaelWilliams-ro9bm]

Toughness I’m guessing.

[@johnmausteller]

RAIN X ALL GLASS. ALL THE WAY AROUND. Sides and rear. + 3-5 mpg more. Try it !

[@sonyabykofsky2873]

Did I miss where the big guy sleeps in the Transit?

[@andymtb3212]

Roof top tent

[@TheLoamWolf]

He sleeps in the tent above. he says he's not much of a camper and prefers hotels, so he's not regularly sleeping in the van and when he does it's the tent.

[@sebastianslife91]

Econoline ❤

[@castirondude]

15:10 lap belts work just fine in the back

[@rrr_rozell7992]

Any thoughts on putting a pop top on the E 350?

[@razor3003]

Kinda pricey but prob worth it

[@christianholmstedt8770]

Would love one but they $8k and up.