Van Life Essentials: Which Solar Power Station To Buy

[@justinaugustinemartinez1222]

Finally someone not sponsored by Jackery! so he is honest and knowledgeable.. thank you!

[@bobbywright8431]

Hi Bob! I just watched you on the PBS video about older people living the van and RV minimalist life style. I've been subscribed to your channel for about a year now. I'm a 53 year old, full time RV dweller. Lost my apartment 2 years ago. I have to say, I absolutely love living this lifestyle!! So much stress was lifted off of me. At first ,the stress of losing housing was incredible. I found your channel and it changed my life!! I wanted to thank you for all your great work you put into your videos. You really are helping people. Again,. Thank you Bob!!

[@bobbywright8431]

@Melinda Santa Cruz It can be scary thinking about living in a van or RV full time. Even for men! I would encourage you to watch Bob's videos. He features a lot of single women of all ages living the minimalist life style. Once you take the leap , you're going to think: Why did I wait so long?! Paying rent in California , became wayyy to much for me alone. All that money spent in the black hole of rent was unbearable! And unsustainable. I am so stress free now ,it's almost scary. Murphy's law or something. Lol. You can do it Melinda!! Peace

[@ggstorm8101]

So happy for you

[@JustDoingChelle]

Thank you for sharing that. I chose to sell my house to live in an apartment till my kid graduates in a couple years. I'm starting this summer and glad I have time to research and be ready. Its been a rollercoaster ride this last year. Just the things I've learned already, I could have done it if I had to. You all are the folks paving the way for what's coming... Perception.... life changing word you teach Bob.

[@bobbywright8431]

@@ggstorm8101 Thank you!

[@bobbywright8431]

@@JustDoingChelle You can do it! One step at a time. Hang in there and keep going! Stay positive....

[@michellecastaneda4104]

I have two Jackeries. I love them. I got the big one. 2 months after using it the solar panel stopped working right. When I got back home I got a hold of Jackery. They had me a replace panel within 2 weeks. No problems. They stand by it.

[@bobbear4437]

You could have done better with a lifepo4 unit

[@hargieboo]

I am glad I bought the Jackery because I am not ready for a permanent setup. I go camping in my minivan, and take the Jackery with me to power my portable fridge/freezer and other items. Everything is taken out of the van when I come home from camping. Some day I will get a permanent camping vehicle, and I can easily move the Jackery into it, and later upgrade to a permanent system. For now, the Jackery is perfect.

[@bobbear4437]

Perfect? So you ignore the Jackery gets thousands of fewer 100% charges then same priced 'lifepo4' units? OK!

[@PavlovsBob]

I bought that exact Jackery setup a month ago to go in and out of my rig on fishing camping and hunting trips. It's appeal goes beyond it's simplicity. It's extremely PORTABLE and it works flawlessly. It also ran my Alpicool LGT60 @36°/22° Fridge/Freezer for more than 40 hours on a single charge. That's far better performance than any other comparable setup I've see tested. If I were setting up a permanent system at a cabin or in a van, boat, or rv , I'd go with components 100%. I might even build my own portable setup someday but, for now, I'm very satisfied with the Jackery.

[@tumbleweed1976]

Plug and “pay”. With so many how to videos I challenged myself to build my own set up in a Minivan. 100 amp hours + 200 watt solar panels. The learning experience alone was worth it.

[@bradjohnsen8645]

We just received the J 1000 and solar panel, $1300. Works great. Ran 60w of lights, on 110v (the inverter adds 6w consumption) we got 4 days at 5 hours per day and only went down to 32%. The panel charges at 70-80% on nice days. very happy.

[@rhonj4603]

It has a 2 year complete warranty. Took 2weeks turnaround. They sent me shipping label, I mailed it back and they sent me a brand new one. Good for starting out. Planning on getting Renegy solar next time.

[@camille9892]

Same for me. Had a display issue. Shipping paid by them both ways and 3 year warranty after I registered it.. Jackery even sent me the replacement where I was located off grid. Before I bought the Jackery 500 and the Solar Saga panel, I was so confused by all the videos everywhere saying "this is all you need, oh and a few other pieces...". No clarity. No details. I needed something and the Jackery was it. I got both on a holiday promo on sales and with a coupon from another channel and saved lots of $$

[@rioseven9123]

I urge you to research Renogy products carefully before you buy.

[@giselleandrea2474]

Jackery and $100 solar panel from harbour freight works PERFECT!!! you need to buy the box of 6 connectors $11 at harbour freight too and then you can plug with no problem.. i have the jackery 290 and is awesome!!

[@cmquinn2000]

That 500 charge cycles is to get the battery to 80% of its capacity. The battery will still work it just won't have as much charge. If you bought the 500W battery, after 500 cycles of charging you would have 518 kWh * 0.8 = 414 kWh. The battery is still useful, it just won't last as long as a new one. Benefits of it being portable make it a multitasker. You can carry it to the neighbors if the power is out so they can power a medical device. You can move it easily from vehicle to vehicle. Take it to the beach to power phones, a portable refrigerator. The tradeoff of portable is that everything is in one basket. So an internal failure means it will be harder to fix.

[@abyssalsoul6216]

I have the Jackery 500w and the 100w Saga panel. The most I can get out of the solar panel is 65 w bright sunshine here in florida ( because of the pwm controller? ). Charging by house electricity the charge is 83w thereabouts . Charging by car its about 40 watts or so. Because the charge rate is highest with house electricity I have a 300w pure sine wave inverter and I charge with this while driving. The main reason for the Jackery 500 is to power my fridge which is an alpicool 20 liter model. In the eco mode set at 37 F , with a fully charged Jackery it will last 37 hours with 25% power remaining. I don't live in my van so it is not converted. I do a couple road trips every now and again. I am sure as Bob pointed out , that there are more economical alternatives but for me the portability is worth it. Tip: For the base of the solar panel. Go to harbor freight and purchase for 7 bucks or so a hand pump kit for transferring liquids. It comes with orange hoses , similar in color to the Jackery. I cut appropriate lengths , make a slit with a razor down the middle of the hose and then push it unto the base of the Jackery . Put some silicone for it to stick. This is now the new "foot" and the fabric will not wear out

[@modemlooper]

The battery does not quit after 500 cycles, it will last 500 cycles to 100% charge and then it goes down to about 80% capacity. A cycle means using the battery down to 0% and fully recharging. if you keep the battery charged up will last longer.

[@dfloyd888]

I know that the Jackery is definitely more expensive than a decent Renogy setup. However, there is one thing the Jackery offers, and why I pay the premium cash for it. Portability. Next year, I am trading in my current RV, so every dollar I put into an install on that is wasted once the RV changes hands. I definitely don't want to tear out solar panels and such. The Jackery, and other power stations are not cheap. However, the fact that I can easily move it between my RV, my daily driver, and my home (I am not a full timer, but plan to be on the road a lot after this trade-in), makes the cost difference worth it. The Jackery 500 I have has done well for me. It has kept an "ice chest" 12 volt fridge below freezing in the Texas heat to allow me to freeze water containers and keep frozen foods cold, as well as rotate the freezer packs between a regular ice chest. It has worked well for keeping my small computer stuff charged when there was a power failure. I plan to get a larger model which will go in a trailer, and which will power up a semi-permanent campsite at a medieval faire (Semi-permanent, as I'll be there on weekends from January to May, then another festival from August to December). The portability is something I know I'm paying for dearly, but it means flexibility for what I do. I would agree 100%, a Jackery or other portable power station isn't a match for a dedicated, properly installed solar system, in price, usability, durability, and usable life. However, the portability aspect is something that can be extremely important.

[@fornatubation]

I have the same Jackery products that Bob shows above. It may be expensive but it’s cheaper then goal ZERO and works well. I use it for my CPAP machine. Use it at night, charge it during the day. Good for however long my trip is. I’m not living the nomad life so my needs are different It’s versatile, light and easy to move around. I can use it in my house if the power goes out or take it out on the road. But I’m not using it every day and I don’t go below 50% of charge. So I expect it to last many years. If I needed power daily I think the system Bob advises would be easier and less expensive to maintain and use.

[@shortandresourceful6242]

500 dollars divided by 1095 days of use is about 45 cents a day to keep yourself comfortably powered. Sounds good to me.

[@kennethkilpatrick4660]

There's something very satisfying about being in your own rig with plenty of power without having to seek out a plug to charge or run things. Throw in a good cellphone connection for internet and you truly have a home on wheels. My only concern is my Element is too small to use a heat source other than cranking it and idling for a bit. Bought a good sleeping bag and insulated backpacker air mattress so still keep warm. Have been in low 30's a few times and bag is so warm I unzip it and use like a quilt. Will be heading south after New Year's for warmer night temps. I cut a mattress topper to fit my Element's floor, put a 4 X 8 carpet rug cut to fit on top of it, put my air mattress on top of it. Just fits turned at an angle with the passenger seat pushed forward. Everything is put on front seats, floorboard and dashboard up front for the night leaving bed and electronics only. During day if not driving I roll up sleeping bag, makes a great couch back. If driving everything goes in the back except large duffel on passenger seat. Rigged paracord at high tie points in back to hang clothes. Don't have the build some do but it works. With window covers for privacy it's much like the inside of a teardrop trailer. But no towing!

[@singmysong1167]

Sounds doable and workable, friend. Thanks!

[@haroldfitz5146]

I have six 100 watt Renogy mono panels MrBob. After 3 years of full-time use they still put out 100 watts each. Renogy is a great company and they're happy to answer any questions we might have. Good video! - Hal

[@itsallaboutjesus8935]

I'm hitting the road in a "start-up" vehicle & basics for day-to-day survival needs. I hope to upgrade to an "installed" solar setup when I upgrade my vehicle. I love my Jackery's & would never consider making an investment in a permanent setup for a temporary situation. Also, for those who favor building your own, please understand (as Bob stated) everybody doesn't have the capability to do so & are not unwise or lazy because they choose Jackery. Unless there's a "volunteer community" willing to do installs for those who can't... don't judge or criticize.

[@dianemoonstone4715]

Agree.

[@willduke69]

Great video. Bob is always informative. But I've already decided for my Needs I'm getting the Jackery 1000. Yes. It is a bit pricey but for me I think its worth it.. And one thing to consider that nobody has tap on yet. The advancement of solar power is getting cheaper all the time.. The Jackery 1000 is 999.99 bucks right now. But give it a couple of years and the price will come down. I remember my family buying a VCR for 700 bucks back in the day. Lol

[@singmysong1167]

True, all good points. And why don't they offer a discount for turning in your old Zachary, for a rebuild, I wonder?

[@luzrucci5534]

I am buying the Jackery 500. Excellent reviews and it has everything I want. The support is fantastic also. So...maybe it is not for everybody. I have 200w Renogy with a MPPT controller on my Motorhome. The Jackery will be perfect for my Jeep adventures.

[@coffeebones]

I have so much gratitude for this channel. I'm getting in late on this lifestyle and am so thankful that I don't have to make *ANY* expensive "rookie mistakes" thanks to videos like this. This community is so awesome. Thanks CheapRVliving, you have saved me literally thousands of dollars, taught me so much, and introduced me to a truly diverse, caring, and intelligently introspective community.

[@danielparker1045]

This dude knows what he's talking about and he's a cool dude always liked watching him on KZbin

[@brendabrock7702]

I just got the set comes in a week. I liked the jackery, because I live in Seattle I can charge it store portable solar panels til summer. The jackery I got is the 1000, it has usb, electric plugs ports, solar charger, or plug in the wall charger on jackery. Seattle is rainny, so most of the time I will plug it in. I am not handy at all thought this was simple stupid. I really just use my tablet and phone. It's expensive. I don't have rent being a vandweller. I'll probably put the panel in the windshield when I am sleeping during the day. I work nights. Your awesome thank you for your videos 🤠.

[@JustDoingChelle]

Hey there from Oly! Thanks for your comment. Just South of you, same issues. And further out to woods, or coast, the worse it gets. Keep us up to date. I want the portable too. Just sold my home, downsized and getting ready for Nomad life this Summer. I have folks all over. "Perception" (thanks for that seed Bob Wells. We were homeless for 2 weeks recently. Like last week! Denied to pay cash up front for a year at Woodland Apartments. They denied cash rent in Oly... ya... I am a cool citizen... jaw drop. They wanted 3 paystubs instead. In a pandemic and lock down..... I spent the last 2 days at a vet. My cat reacted to vaccination. He was sick and me homeless. This life must be prepared for. I almost lost my big guy....Better today. We finally have a home. And a rig we can sleep in next time. Had I had the jackery, we wouldn't have spent $800 on a hotel for 5 nights with pets. Its damp and cold here. To the bone.... That was my jackery cost). So.... I agree with your needs and reasons. Bob, your reasons also. The beauty of this life is unique to the person. Bob Wells, Carolyn's RVLife, Chrome, too many to list. The follower's comments. Thank you ALL. I learn something everyday from all of you. Stay safe!

[@thanatoskatakrima5864]

I just got my 1000 Pro! It came with 21% charge and it only took 1 hour and 20 minutes to charge to 100% Amazing! I charged my iPhone from 61% to 100% and the Jackery still had 100% charge left. It was pulling 8 watts! This will definitely power my needs now that I’ll be living off the grid again! Great investment 👍

[@barelypure]

If you wallet can afford it do both. Have solar, mppt, inverter, battery as a permanent fixture but also have a power station for those times when you're not getting solar charging or you need power away from your vehicle. Will Prowse has a good step by step video on YT on how to build your own system.

[@icestationzed9506]

Good info. We bought the J-500 and folding panel to fit in our car to use have on vacations and when the FD/PD says we must evacuate our home. After a major breakdown and tow, we had to rent another car for 10 days and the Jackery system fit into a slightly smaller car. At home we have the rigid panel and system as you suggest, but will always travel with the Jackery. Thanks Bob....Jim

[@adamw4469]

@cheaprvliving Bob, I'd love to see a video of an alternative for a small, portable unit "build" for these! Like one of the "toolbox builds" or something where folks put all the components in a standard toolbox. The portability of the Jackery etc. units is what is so alluring for many I think!

[@michellestratford9753]

I have no doubt that buying the pieces and building it myself would be cheaper, but I would have no clue where to start to build my own! Lol

[@atouchoffunfashion1614]

Lol......Easy is worth it to me!! I don't like complicated.👍👌😂

[@Rectitude4U]

It’s not complicated, and you’ll have to replace ANY battery you buy in 3-5 years.

[@Aspen12345-h]

Yeah but it won’t last even 4-5 years tho!

[@authordebradickinson]

You’re speaking my language! Chemistry! You made the scientist in me smile big. And, I did not know the difference in the Li batteries however. Good information and things to consider. The original 100W Renogy panel you helped me install and did a video on in 2015 is still in commission. Thanks Bob!

[@matthoward1174]

You don't have to use the Jackery $300- panel. I got an HQST 100w mono panel for $80-, then get an MC4 to 8mm adapter cable, about $20-. It's a good idea to get a 10 foot MC4 to MC4 extension cable to make life easier, also $20-. All available on amazon.

[@singmysong1167]

Thanks alot, friend! I had asked a couple of others about a good generic source and cost but haven't heard back from them yet.

[@baltoman6709]

Will using a solar panel other than jackery void the warranty ??? On the power unit ?

[@matthoward1174]

@@baltoman6709 It shouldn't. The power unit will only take about 170 watts from the panels. Even if you have 2 100 watts linked together for 200 watts. You're not forcing the power in,.. it's taking whats available, and your not modifying the power head,... just using outboard adapters to fit the input. Panels are panels. They all make power the same way for the most part.

[@jazzycattruthkitten4101]

Thanks for that ,very helpful for a novice . I’m looking for panels that are weatherproof but I’m not sure Jackery has that .

[@kenc7435]

i bought one, a Jackery 240, not only do it use it camping i also use it at home to charge my cellphones and a few other items, (radio, rechargeable flashlight) better than those little wall warts just plug in, i am a part time van camper, i own a house but i like to get outdoors and look forward to warm weather so i can get out for a few weeks,

[@charlied4850]

I love my Jackery 240. It powers everything I need for my camper van, and it cost me $215 on sale. Don’t have solar because I’m frequently on the move, and the Jackery is recharged while driving.

[@deanwaller8283]

Can you run a cool box off of it?

[@charlied4850]

@@deanwaller8283 I don’t use one, but I’ve read reviews that claim a 3-4 day usage.

[@deanwaller8283]

@@charlied4850 thanks for the reply,I'm looking at replacing my old fridge since it no longer works off the gas supply,this might help with that

[@jeromej3958]

It seem to me most people that response are convinced that Jackery is it. The solution is simple if you don't want to build your own system. Just shop around , there are hundred of manufacturers of solar power banks. Shop around and get more for your money than spending on the overpriced Jackery. I have several different kind and they all work great.

[@travelamma2779]

Wish this video came out about a month ago. I'm just starting to travel and wanted something easy. I first bought a Goal Zero 200 in a hurry, because of a long trip with my daughter. I need to run a CPAP overnight, and the 200 lasted about 3 hours. I bought the Jackery 1000 as I'm starting out on my own. A 1-night run takes 33% of the charge so even if it's overcast I should be ok. Yes, I got the dual solar panels also, but will mainly charge it by plug or car. I see now I grossly overpaid for what I got, did not know about the difference in Lithium batteries. However, with no electrical background and limited strength/energy, I am satisfied with the performance for my needs. If I'm ever able to hook up with HOWA (which I would love to do), I will bring the Goal Zero to donate. Love what you do & would like to contribute!

[@juliecueva7297]

I love my jackery’s I have the 240 and the 1000

[@MikeBrownRehobothBeach]

Couldn't agree more, The Jackery 2000 is priced at $2299 today on Amazon. I built a 24 volt LiFePO4 system with more capacity, stronger 24V Pure Sine Inverter, Mppt Charger, all the wires, fuses, a 24 volt to 12 volt converter etc for just under $1000. Mines not in a pretty Orange box but it does more for a lot less.

[@qnslanman]

Where did you buy the batteries? Thx

[@HealthyMBS1]

My wife is a weekend warrior SUV camper. She goes on trips sometimes as long as a week, but mostly 3-4 days. She is in love with her Jackery 500 (and 100w Jackery solar panel). We are lucky that the cost wasn't too bad for our household.

[@1tlb0k61]

So appreciate your earnest efforts to help ppl who seek alternative lifestyle.

[@ShabbyTrick]

Dont disagree on cost, but I like the ease of use for my long weekend trips, the kids camping and just as a small backup for when we lose power for a night or two at home and allows us to keep a light on and charge devices. Have the 250 and happy with the purchase. If i was going full time (in the future) i would definitely fo a different direction.

[@peggyhusky7642]

I am retired and building out my van I chose to make purchases that would easily serve my needs. Today I experienced power outage because of the winter ❄️ storm. The light bulb went off having a Jackery 1000. It's awesome. I will in the future go to 400watt solar panels but till then Jackery serves my needs well. Have heard wonderful things about renogy. That's the direction I'll be going. The jackery will hopefully serve basic needs after renogy takes the lead. I'm learning as I go. 🤓 Thanks Bob for all your wisdom and help. Your a blessing.

[@troya2od]

Keep in mind that lead acid / AGM batteries can only be discharged to 50% of their rated capacity at the best of times. So your 100AH AGM Is really a 50AH at optimal conditions. Go watch Battle Born batteries video tiled lead is dead.

[@garychristison5773]

Battle Born boasts 3000 cycles, the Jackery, as this video points out, only claims 500 cycles. They are both LiFePo chemistry as far as can find. Anyone know the reason for the big difference? The Jackery site says to not get wrapped up in number of cycles. Well, I think it's important. There is a big difference between a battery lasting two years or 12 years. I went with what I call the beast, the 75 pound Vmaxtanks 125 Ah for about $300. In Li terms, that's 60 Ah. I hook up a pure sine wave inverter for when the lights go out. Charge it with an AGM battery charger. Next step is to get a controller and solar panel. For emergency backup power, it works for now.

[@eliirvin5576]

I wish I had $1k to drop on Battle Born. No one has put out a video yet that demonstrates a grand is worth it.

[@DrJonathanRoss]

Automotive batteries will generally fail after 30-150 deep cycles if deep cycled, while they may last for thousands of cycles in normal starting use (2-5% discharge). Deep cycle batteries are designed to be discharged down as much as 80% time after time and have much thicker plates, and are $100 at Walmart.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

In your humble opinion yet I have both AGM and Lithium and they each have pros and cons. Battleborn makes a really good battery yet for the same money you can get twice the lithium capacity through other companies for the same amount of money.

[@troya2od]

@@geraldhenrickson7472 I used BB as an example, watch 5he lead is dead video

[@juliecueva7297]

I love my jackery’s I have the 240 and the 1000

[@tracker5847]

omg..i was looking on amazon while you were talking...thank you for saving me..i had the jackery in my cart

[@skimch13]

I ended up building my own using an agm, trolling motor battery box ( has switched USB, 12v outlet, and protected terminals on top) then added a SAE pigtail for charging and mounted a 300w pure sine inverter on top. Works great!

[@rhllnm]

Smart battery box looks like a good way to go.

[@rhllnm]

Check out Cutting Edge Power, Houston.

[@rcud1]

I'd say the best thing about something like the Jackery is its portability, that along with its great support and simply a well tested product. These other kits are not something you would want to drag around with you to much.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

You don't have to use the Jackery Panel. If you take the panel out of the equation, the Jackery is a deal. It will also work far past the 3 year mark, just at 80%, and it is on warranty so if something goes wrong it's a cost free replacement. I wouldn't say it's a forever system for long term, but it's worth the cost and if you hold onto it after you get your battery based solar system, you now have a portable battery on top of it. Especially if you skip the Jackery Panel which *is* overpriced. But the Jackery itself I don't consider overpriced.

[@skwerl81]

Can you recommend to this newbie what other solar panels might work? Or what I should look out for to make sure they're compatible?

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

​@@skwerl81 almost any panel will work, easiest way look for a panels with MC4 connectors. Just get a MC4 to 8mm connector cable off amazon. I have my Jackery 1000 and Jackery 500 hooked up to roof mounted panels. Bluetti and Goal Zero both use an 8mm connector, anything with an 8mm connector that works with those units will also work with Jackery.

[@skwerl81]

@@TheDawnofVanlife Thank you so much!!

[@EllEnchanted]

@@TheDawnofVanlife so much appreciated, thank you! Everyone keeps asking this and I’ve only seen you give a clear answer.

[@gerald4nomads]

I’m staying with my Honda eu2200i and my goal zero 1400 to store the energy from my Honda. Honda and Goal zero Are a beautiful combination for the weekend warriors.

[@2lmdi]

Bob, thanks for the wonderful service you provide to this community. I've been back and forth on this and must say I do tend toward Jackery mostly for the weight with bad arthritis and other mobility issues. I was feeling a bit guilty at the thought of spending that much but did it this way: Considering $800.00 to include Jackery panel but would probably go with cheaper on that.. but just using that figure, 3 into $800 is $266.66 a year for power. I pay that for one month's power during the summer in my home so I'll take it. I do get what you're saying and the name of your Channel says where you're coming from though.

[@sentineloffreedom]

As far as I’m aware, after 500 cycles, the battery is still good but it’s capacity is just reduced to 80%... maybe something worth mentioning.

[@curtispavlovec]

Time is money and Jackery makes really nice products. Cheap they are not, but the overall build quality and support are quite good in my experience. Add in the portability and different charge options plus the units weigh quite a bit less than a homemade DIY version. Is this worth a few hundred dollars more? It is to me.

[@JessJess385201]

I got the jackery, but not the solar panel. I just need it for occasional weekend conventions, craft shows, camping.

[@DavidDrivesElectric]

I love your honesty and being independent from compamnnes sponsoring you.

[@fdm2155]

I suspect for most people who buy Jackery, the ease of entry is the primary concern. If I were outfitting a vehicle, I'd probably buy the kit. But I have reliable people who can install it for me and/or with me. Definitely not something I'd be comfortable doing myself without professional help.

[@dianemoonstone4715]

Agree.

[@michaelwilliams2807]

Jackery is definitely not the cheapest out there, but it's pretty competitive, and it gets great reviews. If you want a power bank like this, you are looking at an average cost of about $1 per amp hour/ $1 per watt. The solar panels are a completely different story. There are cheaper panels our there that will do the same or better job.

[@outbackeddie]

I made my own kit but after a couple of uses, I decided it was inferior to the Jackery. It was a hodgepodge of parts that made portability and ease of use impossible. Plus, a lead-acid battery is inferior to a lithium battery. Also, I really didn't save that much money by buying separate parts. The Renogy panels work well but if you want portability you really need to go with a Jackery or other power station and a folding panel.

Great video! I bought both items the Jackery and the solar panel. The Jackery lasts a lot longer than 500 cycles. It's just that the capacity to fully recharge is reduced to 80%.

[@bobesselstyn461]

thanks Bob was looking at that Jackery but after watching your vid and them not getting back to me after numerous requests forget them them im keeping my battery set up i have now thanks again for the honest review

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

I have been away awhile and am happy to see you are still posting videos. I agree that this is not the way to go for everyday use. Too many other options out there. Convenience is the real benefit here.

[@NashvilleNative-0]

You do make some good points. However, it is worth noting that you do not have to use the jackery solar panel with the jackery solar generator. To use a different solar panel(s) with this solar generator, You have to buy a special 8 mm input adapter cord and you can hook it up to any solar panel or perhaps up to 300 watts? Can't remember the specs on what the solar generator can handle.

[@singmysong1167]

Yes, one commenter gave these specs; he bought HQST 100 mono panel-- $80, an MC4 to 8mm adaptor cable-- $20, and he recommends also buying a 10 foot MC4 to MC4 extension cable-$20.

[@tommeepickles]

Good info. Me and my pal were talking about this this weekend because some van dwellers are sponsored by Jackery and I know they are too expensive for us. A saw a review of the 240 and power capacity of this Explorer 240 power station is 67,200mAh. So basically the fridge would run it down in a couple hours for $250. Might as well buy a battery and a switch and charge it with your alternator.

[@xunil76]

you should keep in mind that the fridge compressor doesn't run 24x7...it's like an air conditioner, it only cycles on and runs when it needs to bring the temperature down...the rest of the time, it just sits there using no power except maybe an LED display or something like that. with fridges and air conditioners, you can't really calculate total power draw just going by the voltage and amperage listed on the sticker. you need to put it through something like a Kill-A-Watt meter over a 24-hour period (or even longer, preferably) so you can actually see real-world usage. and also keep in mind, the ambient temperature outside the fridge will make a big difference in this as well...the colder it is outside, the longer the cold on the inside of the unit will last, making the compressor able to stay cycled off for longer.

[@b4mb2r]

I've always said that you pay for convenience. I bought a Jackery (controller and inverter included / all in 1 super simple)

[@lindac7146]

I wish I had known about the short life span before I bought one. Thankfully I bought the smaller one and was able to purchase at a discount.

[@Nurs3Man]

Señor thanks for this video, I was going to buy this particular unit but after watching your video I changed my mind. Thanks again

[@kennethkilpatrick4660]

I bought the smallest Jackery power station and the 60 watt panel. The panel quit on me after about 3 months but the power station has met most of my needs. Charge it driving or in malls. I would go to the next size up next time. Don't really need more as I live in my Honda Element. Use the Opolar fan, thanks for recommending that! I charge a light, phone, two tablets, and power the fan. I also have the collapsible little light with the tiny solar panel. Disappointed in that as it doesn't last long. Get multiple ones of those if you want light for awhile. All in all solar is the way to go for independence.

[@gloshafer5205]

Kenneth Kilpatrick -I have the Jackery 160 and a Rockpals 60w folding panel. Use them on weekends in my tiny Honda Fit, mostly to run my fans. Plug n play are great for folks in smaller vehicles. I'm watching for sales on a larger size Jackery, would like to have pass through capability.

[@rvingtheusa]

PS I got mine 500's on sale for $349 each just watch for sales. Panels normally not more then a 10% discount. But keep cking Amazon and Jackery sites for sales.

[@johnmiller1649]

Love your Channel and I know every video is down to earth easy to understand and most of all “HONEST” usable information for us Laymen. I started out with the Goal Zero1000 which you can hardly find anymore and my reasoning was stealth, portability, ease of use, what a great product for all of that and more. Now it’s time to upgrade and show the world with a solar panel on my Van roof that I’m a Nomad, can’t hide it any more, once you start to go big enough to meet the greater demand of the fridge, fan, c-pap and a lot more for convenience sake your video will hit home to the masses as they usually do. Help me put together a electrical system that will do the job and last the course. As of now I’ll be buying and wiring everything and the videos out there are a bit overwhelming. Who else here is making the Jump Up in power?

[@turboman4736]

What I seen in the jackery is when it's cold your battery depletes. takes forever for to charge pretty much all day. The way to go is a little expensive but I actually guarantee you'll never have a problem out of it is the harbor freight solar panel RV kit with. four semi batteries parallel hook with a 3000 to 4000 w harbor freight converter never have to worry about power. I run a 110 air unit in my RV with it microwave refrigerator TVs 110 electric heater never a problem I have had to replace one battery

[@mateobeans3787]

If you live in your van full time, a Jackery or the like isn’t for you. If your the weekend camper wanting to power your fridge and change a few electronics, Jackery or the like makes sense. Solar panels make sense for van lifers. Otherwise Jackery or the like can be plugged into your car to charge when low. There’s something for every situation..... ✌🏻

[@kentyoungman3569]

Another option for folks that are mechanically / electrically inclined is to build a "solar power box". I have built a number of these running from 120 watt hours to 600 watt hours using lithium batteries, a plastic ammo can, and various controllers, USB and 12 volt ports and inverters. It may not be the cheapest way to go, but it is an excellent addition to a built in system which can be customized to individual needs. All the parts can be sourced on Amazon.

[@dfloyd888]

I thought of doing that, because I could buy a lithium battery from Battle Born, a charge controller, two PSW inverters, one for low current draw applications (charging batteries), and one for higher current draw), but right now, I don't have the tools or the time to do that, so I went the easy way out and bought a power station. However, a power box as mentioned above can be a better solution and more customized. For example, having two inverters means that you don't have the energy loss of the big one when it isn't in use, but still can charge tool batteries or smartphones.

[@sky02148]

This video came just in time, I just asked for and got 385$ in Amazon GC and when I get home was gonna be ordering the Jackery battery now I will be doing more research amd try to find someone that can help me with it, if my car makes it back to Massachusetts from my first big trip. But anyways thanks so much for alp your information and for giving me the courage to do this, and go. As always stay safe, safe travels, and God bless love ya Nancy

[@luzrucci5534]

I got the 500w. But my solar panel is better than that. It has the orange hard plastic around it. Very sturdy. I love it. Not concern about the price

[@fetabrown]

Another thoughtful and comprehensive review, thank you!

[@shirleyfrederickson2280]

Thank you so much for this thorough presentation! I just had my van tuned and primed in the shop and am about to begin my no build build for my first year of van living. My project this week is battery, inverter and solar. I was thinking of it this morning as I tuned in to UTube and BAM! There you were with great advice once more.

[@timdowney6721]

LOL Hope the answer is “yes,” since I bought one during their recent sale.

[@gdibenedetto9877]

All my God Bob thank you so much from showing this video! I was 5 minutes away from wasting $800 to use something for your and a 1/2. I think I use that money and have professional install regular panels with regular good batteries regular inverter and all of the regular solar things that use speak of in your other videos this is a quick fix but it's not gonna last. Thank you so much

[@StaceyBillsAdventures]

I think outside of the van purchase itself, a good battery and 100 watt panel are going to be my largest expense but I also think it will do everything i can think of and more for me, just saving my pennies at this point :)

[@jsso2845]

Windy Nation gave me good support I have their hundred watt kit and it has worked splendidly for the past 3 years in my little travel trailer. I use it for my dometic 12 volt fridge and LED lighting mostly.

[@susanpremo8068]

Good to know, we just bought an aliner, this is just the information I needed!

[@smallisbeautiful2808]

Well, the way I look at it is....If you can run a small plastic heater box fan on it for 8 months, you would break even with the additional cost of electricity you would have paid to use the heater fan at home. And if you consider that $800 only covers around 10 to 15 days of rent for a one-bedroom apartment in most regions of the US these days, that unit is a major bargain.

[@charlottewashington1756]

What is a heater box fan? Is it used for heating or cooling? If it is used for heating a space, can it be used in a minivan? Where can I buy one? What is the brand name? Is it dangerous to use inside a vehicle.

[@Misty8103]

Thanks soooo much for this!! I was looking for exactly this advice

[@neverlatefarm4]

Bob - if you link all the things...fuses, etc. for people to get, that would be very helpful. You talk about needing a couple additional items...having links to all would be beneficial along with links to your videos on how to connect everything together would likely result in many views which equals revenue for your videos which would equal funds for your alliance :) Love your teaching vids :)

[@verohandymike]

I had the Jackery in my cart ready to buy when I came across this video. I have changed my mind but I wouldn't say you specifically changed it, what you said that got me is that all the components are contained in the Jackery. Then I got to thinking that I've tinkered all my life and one thing for sure with any setup, at some point something is going to fail, not just that but you may want to upgrade one item, such as inverter. You're much better off with all your components separate, so at any time you can upgrade or replace a failing part. The Jackery purchase was just me being lazy. I've decided to build my system instead and I will support Renogy, I have a great respect for anyone (or company) who are generous to those in need. Also if you've read this far then you are stuck hearing me tell the story of my Uncle who just celebrated his 105th birthday sitting on his front porch in a chair I built for him using lumber off his property. That man has always given to anyone in need, he'll go looking for someone to give to, yet he has never needed for anything and now in his old age there are people clamoring to see him and do something for him every day. You don't have to believe in anything, but trust me, blessings and karma are real wherever they may come from!

[@gwendolynfloccari4927]

Thank you thank you for this info. I may end up homeless later this year so info is timely. No way I can afford Jackery. You help so many with your info.

[@casedoumasr656]

Hello I have a Honda 1000 generater that had 5 hrs paid $300. Charges my spare battery runs my expresso machine and i'am all set and happy Cjd wash state 🤔

[@jhemnes1]

I have found that you are spot on Bob. You always give the best advice

[@chucktownvanlife4267]

I would highly recommend not using AGM batteries. Spend the extra money And go lithium. With AGM batteries, you can only use half the capacity. In other words, if you have 100 amp our AGM battery, you can only use 50 amp hours. You need to for one to get what you want out of it. Also, lithium ion batteries can last 10 to 12 years or more. Much better savings and much more efficient. I happen to love my Jackery 240. it is merely a back up for my system that I built. However, there are other all-in-one systems that are great and can be used as your whole power system. I have an Inergy Apex and it is amazing. Their new Apex system is amazing. All in one systems are the wave of the future. Yes, they’re expensive but if you buy the right system and Battery chemistry, It will serve you well. No matter what power system you have, always have a back up like Jackery, inergy or Bluetti

[@TY-mx9fr]

WOW! Thank you so much for this info. I had already planned to get a Jackery. I see it a lot with Nomads. Thank you. I am gonna save this info

[@planetmarrs5239]

Being truthful, the Jackery will only lose 20% after 500 cycles. It’s still good, it still works, it will just charge up and hold 80% of the charge it used to.

[@ffaubert1]

I believe any battery drops after so long doesn't it? I'm still on LA's but I know the warranty is gone after two years and the discharge/recharge rate drops after a few years. Couple that with the fact that LA's should only be discharged to 50% and the Jackery doesn't actually look that bad. I'm still going with individual components, but at the end of the day, I can see the attraction.

[@ucitisme]

Looks like my dog in your profile picture. 😎

[@planetmarrs5239]

@@ucitisme My son’s profile, I’m senior, Pippa is his service dog, he is deaf.....

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Also, that's Jackery's conservative estimate. It likely will run longer then 500 cycles.

[@swamibob488]

@@TheDawnofVanlife It should run even longer if you don't discharge all the way each cycle.

[@MoBangFoYoBucks]

Funny how he forgot to mention about the sine wave power inverter and all the other functions on the Jackery. It ain't cheap! Plus your time to built the system. Time is money.🤷🏻‍♀️

[@dawna4185]

I find electricity extremely daunting and I know nothing about it except it sure is convenient! Thanks for the video and it is great to read the comments to get different perspectives and tips!

[@alicehallam8247]

Bob I don't know anything about electricity or the components or "just hook everything up." Renergie needs to sell this same group of components and offer the system for a discounted price of the Jackery. For people like me.

[@alicehallam7949]

Less than $14 per month (5 years ÷ 36 months) for power? Doesn't seem that expensive to me.

[@mitziflanery2939]

My electric bill was $450 a month. Yeah. I agree with you

[@wesmontana6818]

Depending on your situation also get the smaller 240 Jackery. It’s 200 bucks. The solar panel is 170 right now so 370 for 4 years minimum with warranty. Not too bad

[@cindys3435]

Thank you for that information I literally have a jackery in my Amazon cart and I never knew they had such a short life span. Renergy is what I’m going to look into. Again thank you!

[@dandelionstars]

I got a 330 Rockpals for $179. If it lasts 3 years, I will be thrilled. It's mostly just back up for me, not a main power source.

[@kathbeth43]

Thank you I am thinking of camping next summer through Michigan with a tent so thank you.. I just love your channel. You are so knowledgable and honest. Thank you again - subscriber!

[@leonalarson1598]

I love the information you shared and I have been looking for a way to stay out longer while I photography sunset, sunrises, the moon, the aurora borealis, night skies and so much more. Thank you for your kindness and your time it's very much appreciated

[@HR-wd6cw]

OK so maybe it will last you 2 or 3 years and costs $500 for the battery, but if you're living the van life or out of your car, that's like maybe ONE rent payment for a small apartment. I'd say you're still saving money at that point versus living somewhere... Even combined with the $300 solar panel, that's not bad for even 2 years of daily use. I mean you figure that's about $35 per month over 2 years but that's not really that bad, when you consider an apartment might be $30-$50 for electricity it's not that bad when you look at the big picture over a 24 month period. IF you get 36 months out of it, even better. I do think though, for the money, the 167 Whr Jackery is the best deal at around $110. I mean you could technically buy 3 of those for less than this one but you'd also have to buy 3 solar panels for it as well. Personally I would just suck it up, buy the $500 one and use it for 2-3 years and replace it as needed. At least the solar panel should last you 5-6 years if not longer, so you're realy only replacing the battery (a $500 battery) every 2-3 years which breaks down to about $250 a year at most.

[@paulmanuel1001]

500 watt jackery = $500. Or 5 or more batteries at Wal-Mart to get the same storage. Cost the same except inferior products at Wal-Mart.also still need solar panel and hookups. Still going to cost you around 800 bucks.............

[@JohnJohnCrusher]

Nope you're waaay off there. $100 Walmart battery is 115AH x 12V = ~1400W. Multiply that by 5 and you get nearly 7000W for the same price as a 500W jackery. Haha crazy right? NOW you see why jackery is jacking the public

[@marilynjones5749]

A lot of people living in abundance are willing to pay for the ease and convenience of a jackery. Time and energy are more important and money is easily made and readily available for some of us. For people who live in a lack mentality counting every nickel and dime; maybe his way is better.

[@elosoguapo8137]

Good to know about the short life of the battery. I would have thought it could last a few years.

[@humanity941]

Hi from Australia Bob another great informative video. cheers Mate.