Maxus E Deliver 3 Electric Van - 2020 Roadtest & Review | Vanarama.com

[@danmccarthy4700]

I love watching car review channels from UK and Australia because It's fun to see all the weird, cool stuff we'll never get in the US. :)

[@duncanfarrant8025]

One thing the bonnet comes off as I found, could be fun in a strong wind if you checked fluids. take it it for engine service and being a composite bonnet.

[@jasoncatt]

Shouts at the viewers at how incredibly noisy it is, then tells the head of LDV's EV division how impressively quiet it is..

[@philipgorham388]

We just need to know how much ?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Check out my first impressions blog here - price is dealt with in the FAQs at the end: www.vanarama.com/latest-news/hands-on-with-the-maxus-e-deliver-3.html

[@Wookey.]

£30K+VAT, i.e. £36K for the 32kWh version. £33K+VAT or £39.6K for the long range.

[@terrificspokesman7416]

Do you have a review of the diesel Deliver 9

[@freeganjustin6699]

Looks very like an E NV200 with a blunted nose. Claimed range per kwh is much better tho, despite the obviously inferior aerodynamics. Is that just the E NV being less efficient due to having a car drivetrain (Leaf) or does this thing bring something new?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: It's the whole vehicle working perfectly - it's been designed to be an electric vehicle, so everything from the power train to the alloys used in the platform are specifically made to ensure this vehicle offers as much range/power/charge as possible. And yes, it does look a bit like an ENV200...

[@izzabelladogalini]

First aerodynamics are not as obvious as you seem to think. Secondly and more importantly the NV200 uses old (by EV standards) tech, air cooled battery - so it hangs dangerously low, and poor regen capacity. I've driven both and the Maxus battery and drive tech is way better in terms of performance and efficiency... dont forget the Leaf has been around for over a decade and the eNV uses that tech.

[@MegaProtius]

We have a small shop this would be perfect charge once or twice a week carry produce we sell, pollution free deliveries round the area.... nice to see 😁

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Absolutely. They're great little vans. Cutting-edge tech sorted.

[@franks.hansen6788]

How do you adjust the cabin temperature in this van?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Using the feature discussed right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqWQkpiQipaLadU - amazing that it comes as standard.

[@Davidholst74]

You have AC high/low/off, heat high/low/off. No temp adjustment, major drawback

[@s001100010011100100]

@@Davidholst74 high, low and off? Thats it?

[@MarkusOttosson]

Seriously. U say that the range is the primary concern among your viewers. 2nd is probably charging. So, WHY do you not answer the mega obvious questions - what average consumption you saw, how much avaible energy there seems to be and what the dc charging curve looks like. Check some Björn Nyland videos. For education.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Fair feedback, that. I've taken it on board in the next review.

[@reimonbengtsson3046]

How do you open the charging hatch on this vehicle?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Pull handle in the front of the vehicle.

[@IronmanG74]

option for 3 front seats- any further news?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Yes, the bench seat is confirmed.

[@bidders77]

Does the lwb have a wider side door than the 70cm on that one?

[@PsychoMan]

Does maxmus have dealers outside the uk? Or do uk dealers also supply left hand drive vans?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Yes they do, you might now them better under their previous name of 'LDV'.

[@PsychoMan]

@@vanaramauk yes I know daf licence production vehicles

[@debendragurung3033]

Good enough for big corporates hugging few in their fleets and use it for inner city duties. Not quiet there yet to change their entire fleet.

[@pradhansatyen]

Can it be purchased or leased for private use? Like a no build Campervan

[@s001100010011100100]

Drove one today. Incredibly noisy, handles badly, you need to remove the entire bonnet to fill washer fluid, the sales guy recommended having a mate to help remove the bonnet. Im not making this up. And theres a high pitched wine whilst driving that gave me a headache. No way would i buy this car.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: As I say in the video, it's about what this van represents. This is early-adopter tech - the amazing step forward that the surge of development springs from.

[@barrybark3995]

those back door hinges with no check strap wont last the course

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Exactly. Odd, right? They can't be that expensive to include.

[@joesouthgate]

No-one should be quoting NEDC test cycle range figures anymore, it's widely known to be very inacurate, the WLTP range of 150 miles for the big battery is far more like what you will actually see in the summer months.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: You're right, but I've tested this van myself on proper roads. Battery charge, range, these were two things I wasn't worried about once.

[@paulkirby2958]

I think you may be referring to a higher quoted mileage which was reflecting the urban cycle of the WLTP figures. That does represent what you would expect in an urban operation where this van would be very good.

[@stuartcraigon2003]

Even less in winter and as the system gets older the recharge capacity will reduce.

[@grahaml8838]

Interesting review. I hope they take on board some of your comments. Could be a good van if they get those issues sorted.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review. It was a really interesting review to make - the van has to be judged in 2 lights... as the first ground-up electric LCV and as a commercial vehicle. It does both really well. There are a few question marks - pretty standard when it comes to pre-production models - but a lot of them will be answered in the production models. Looking forward to seeing one in the flesh again soon!

[@grahaml8838]

@@vanaramauk I think the brands need to pull their fingers out. The forthcoming VW Caddy appears not to have an electric option. What are they thinking. My next van will be electric... Even if I buy a classic and convert it myself.

[@1702jtma]

Thanks for great video. Appreciated. Can you tell more about the noise when you drive? Something comparable?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed the video. Well, imagine you're driving a standard medium van at 40mph with the windows down. That's what it was like. I'm sure they'll sort the baffling out though.

[@s001100010011100100]

Awful noise, really, someone measured it at 73db.

[@wickedleeloopy2115]

Good review. With a 300+ mile range & a cab chassis option. I believe it could be a big seller.As much as tesla is replacing petrol cars. Replacing diesel trucks & vans is more impacting environmentally

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Thanks very much, glad you found it useful. I agree with your view on the eDeliver 3 - there's massive potential for it in the small electric panel van category. It'll face competition from the Renault Kangoo ZE & Nissan e-NV200, but I rate it highly.

[@billpalmer2381]

at least starting with percentage of parts made in uk

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Probably few parts, but then that's no different to the vast majority of vans in the UK anyway.

[@davidbp10]

Is there a dual passenger seat option?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Should be down the line. :)

[@Ethankeenan02]

The interior looks different from psa group Van's looks good very car like but I think the ford and Mercedes Van's have the best practicality in the interior with cuby holes and cup holders every where

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Couldn't agree more. It's what the vehicle represents that makes it such a compelling one to drive.

[@pedroresolve]

How Can you test a lot of cars? In PORTUGAL i send a lot ou e-mails for brands...and nathing! The brands don't responde! Please give a Light! Good video

[@promophobe69]

Seriously, if so much is qualified with "this is a pre-production vehicle", how is this useful for propective buyers? this might be fixed, this might be fixed, this might be fixed? designed from the ground up, but havent thought until after the pre production to fit in a euro- pallet? With so many issues at this stage, doors, noise, sound, and if its not reflective of the prodiuction model, who is this review for? Also, electric van, more info on range would be useful,. what is this for?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: I mentioned in the bits where I talked about it being pre-production that I'd spoken to Maxus about the feature and revealed what they said. Also, it's a review of a pre-production model, there's not much I can do but review it and say "this is pre-production, but I've spoken to Maxus who said...". I make sure to speak about the van in the terms in which it requires - it's new, it's here, it's another step towards the electric future of LCV. I appreciate all your feedback & will look to address some of it in future reviews. Really appreciate your view & support.

[@s001100010011100100]

Noisy as hell. I drove it 20kn and that was more than enough.

[@someoneelse7629]

A white van that can't load euro pallets? Too narrow between the wheels, and too small sliding door at the side, totally useless. And on top ot that, the bulkhead stealing space from the front pallet, so you cant use the height. Do they suggest that you load empty pallets first, notching them for the wheels, and then put your goods in?

[@paulkirby2958]

I get the bulkhead intrusions issue but you will get a pallet between the arches we are assured. So you should be able to get two in without the bulkhead effecting things

[@someoneelse7629]

@@paulkirby2958 You cant get one in trough the side door (too narrow), and to fit two you need the one in front to be diagonally and the one between the wheel arches to be lengtwise, but you cant get the front one in digonally trough the backdoor without really long forks and lifting over the wheel arches.

[@paulkirby2958]

Someoneelse yes the side door was a bit of a challenge tbh. It does have a checker plate floor so may improve loading. Once we get a finished production model we will have to do another test... 👍

[@Wookey.]

Yeah that side door opening did look very narrow. I'm not sure he actually opened it fully in the vid (It bounced). Maybe the LWB version lets the door go further (because it won't hit the rear doors?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: There were no locks on the back door hinges & the hinges themselves could go no further back either.

[@grahamvare1809]

Can you do more vans I love vans and great video love your content

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: That'd the plan, Graham. Now lockdown is easing we're getting more vehicles booked in by the day! Stay tuned and thanks for your support.

[@MegaProtius]

No exhaust fumes 😁

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Yes, that's one of the main benefits.

[@Ethankeenan02]

That's only usable in a city

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: You'd be surprised how far that range goes. You'd easily be able to operate this in an urban-to-rural setting.

[@johnnysidewayz6873]

Drove one today, great little van, great review, it has an adjustable regeneration button aswell👌

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Isn't it great? Sounds like you drove a production model, the one I got was a pre-production model.

[@Nintendude2013]

Question is.. what is your favorite van?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: VW Transporter - because of its iconic status and the fact that it's still the basis of camper vans. Love it. The Ford Transit Custom and Vauxhall Vivaro are my next favourites.

[@grahamclark4518]

7 Hour charge time 45 minute quick charge time. Its still not good enough with 200 mile range not when you can get 400-600 miles with a liquid you can pour in, in less than 5 minutes

[@paulkirby2958]

HI Graham - Paul here. What we know is that 80% of average mileage is below 80 miles per day so with overnight charging a possibility for many this presents an option for many use cases. I appreciate it may not be right for you. What mileage would you need each day and where can you charge?

[@grahaml8838]

Depends on how you use it, Graham. My van just goes around the local villages, I just need the space and comfort. Those stats are fine for me, but I get what you are saying.

[@stuartcraigon2003]

Half that in the winter and half that again to get back again! You couldn't go anymore than 75 miles away from base AND if you did you'd be hard pushed to find a charger that works.

[@stuartcraigon2003]

The range will not be anything like 200 miles. 100 to 150 maximum. That means a maximum of 75 miles from your depot. No courier has 45 minutes to charge a battery. It will be 20 years before conventional fueled engines are no longer available. The reality of range isn't nearly good enough and the charging infrastructure isn't good enough either.

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Massively generalised statements there. 200 miles often translates closer to 180 (dependent on climate, road, etc). Range is getting better all the time, I think you'll have to wait and see what happens over the next 8 years. Appreciate your comment. :)

[@stuartcraigon2003]

@@vanaramauk in fairness Tom I was a courier doing over 100 deliveries a day, my route took me 25 miles away from the depot before I even got to my first delivery! That's 50 miles of range to get out there and back again with my other deliveries 30 miles out from there plus deliveries to the south on my way back. I'd need a range of 200 miles minimum and I had no time to stop, recharging isn't an option for couriers round here. To give you an idea I'm 80 miles or so north of Edinburgh. Ev vans might be fine in densely populated areas of England but they will have very limited use in the majority 9f Scotland.

[@Ethankeenan02]

I do over 60 mph in my citroen nemo did 95 in it lol

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Naughty!

[@billpalmer2381]

wonderful is it made in china don t buy it if it is shame its not layland made in uk now we have left the eu all vans used by local gov need to be made in the uk .

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: That would be an amazing future for UK van manufacturing, but sadly I don't think it will happen like that. We'll be reliant on imports for a long time to come. The PSA Group medium vans are the last load of vans being made in the UK, hopefully that continues post-Brexit.

[@daves4026]

Thanks for the video. I saw a more in depth video on youtube which went under the vehicle and looked at the chasis door panels and hinges and the sub floor of the load area and the axles and mounting points. In summary the Maxus deliver 3 looks like hot garbage and made out of thin box section. Real concerns about the quality of this product and the longevity of this vehicle. Its bonnet doesnt even remain attached to the vehicle when opened its a plastic fit panel with no hinges. Its less of a cat amongst the pigeons and more a steaming *urd thrown amongst the pigeons when only looking at the chassis and build quality. Each needs to make there own opinion, search for the other review video and see what I saw.

[@Ethankeenan02]

Not enough range for me I'll keep my 400-600 mile range in my diesel van

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: You're not the only person who'll be thinking that, but if you've got a charging point easily accessible, you'll love this van.

[@paulkirby2958]

@Ethan keenan, I am interested to know how many miles you do each day in you van, both on average and a max daily?

[@kjbyrne11]

Looks very similar to the Nissan NV200

[@paulkirby2958]

It is a little bit yes. It has a slightly bigger load space as an SWB and quite a lot more as a LWB - Do you like it?

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: I see what you mean - although it certainly didn't drive like one. EVs are incredibly fun to drive.

[@kevinotoole885]

Sorry, this is a piss take £30k for the inconvenience. I’m all for saving the world but they need to make these way, way more reasonably priced.

[@orgyast]

Garbage. Doesn’t show outside temperature. Looks like adjusting heat in this car going to be a struggle. I have seen couple of Maxus vans drive by and they all had foggy windows on a rainy day. The range will drop a lot with tools and equipment in the back. Only one side door....

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: But again, it's what this vehicle represents that makes it exciting. The world's first ground-up electric van & its range is good, cabin is good & loading bay works. Imagine what the next generation is going to be like!

[@johnpaul1003]

electric we don’t even have electricity to run a home.

[@suhairirohani3593]

😍😍😍👍

[@markthompson2466]

Shame that driver and passenger will have lost their voices by the end of the day

[@billpalmer2381]

still won't buy chinese wherever possible for the foreseeable future all things considered

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Totally your view.

[@UrbanExplorer614]

Ha ha ha, a cheap Chinese LDV van with no resale value for a Transporter Highline price, you couldn't make it up!

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Don't knock it until you try it.

[@jamieb4734]

Vanarama give it a few years use, you won’t be saying that!

[@robertnitschke89]

Coal fired vans. what a joke

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: But arguably the start of our LCV future.

[@stevehorner8302]

Wake up this is a load of crap. Buy one at your peril

[@AG-636]

Looks terrible ☹️

[@stellarandrews9538]

Tom Robert’s your talking absolutely crap number 1 it’s not the first van designed from the ground up as a all Electric Van. Check your facts. Do some research. How many other inaccuracies are there in your report

[@vanaramauk]

Tom here: Sorry to argue with you, but it is the first van to be designed from the ground up to be an electric van - widely cited by many publications including us to be just that. I did check my facts, I did do some research & because of our relationship with Maxus we were given this pre-production model & we were the first out with a proper review (including breaking the notable fact that while the pre-production model couldn't fit a Euro-pallet in the back between the arches width ways, the production model would be able to).