Vapour Barrier in a Van - I can Prove they Work.

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Greg Virgoe

Greg Virgoe

2 жыл бұрын

I carry out a real test to show you that a vapour barrier does work and they can completely prevent the formation of condensation.
There are so many different opinions about vapour barriers in steel vans and nobody is proving their point, so I will prove to you that they do work.
The vapour barrier prevents moist air from coming into contact with cold surfaces and totally eradicates any condensation from forming in the first place. If the air cannot get to the cold metal then it cannot condense into water.
It is really easy to make a sealed barrier with foil bubble wrap and foil tape, just make sure to seal all the edges, joints and tape over any holes and service entry points.
There are many more useful videos like this in our full van build series
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Greg Virgoe
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@jazzz60
@jazzz60 2 жыл бұрын
A great practical demo on how it works! Genius. Thank you Greg! When I did my insulation I got half the van done with VB then winter came. Half my van was dripping where there was no VB, and the other half even though not sealed at edges was bone dry when I cut into it to check. So doesn’t even have to be 100% sealed to be massively effective. If the air doesn’t move through that gap it can’t carry moisture into it. Obv being sealed helps guarantee this. Front half of van started getting mould spots where water droplets kept collecting on top of PIR boards in ceiling. Vapour barrier for the win! Can’t cheat physics!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a brilliant practical example confirmed. Nobody ever backs up their contradictory thoughts with actual proof or science so thank you for another rock solid example
@mattstockton2433
@mattstockton2433 3 ай бұрын
So good, thanks. I’ve put a 7mm foil topped adhesive foam directly on the metal then put insulation on top of that. Do I still need a Vapour barrier on the outside of the insulation, eg over the top of the insulation as well? I see some people put a really thin foil over it. Appreciate your thoughts
@maxv77
@maxv77 5 ай бұрын
I was watching a video on this subject from a guy who builds campervans for a living. He didn't put a vapor barrier on. I questioned this. He said most professional van builders don't as it causes more issues later on down the vans life.
@jordanhanson316
@jordanhanson316 Ай бұрын
Better to have some breathability if moisture does get in
@rbrown
@rbrown 7 ай бұрын
Nice demo but there is a problem ! In theory in a tiny test where you can actually fully seal off the area, yes it works. Vans are not fully sealed nor are they meant to be. Manufacturers have many drain holes, plugs, plastic trim attachments that come all way through into the inside of the van cavities. Thats why vans are designed to drain. Then we go and try to fully seal them up. I do partially agree that adding multiple layers of good insulation and having partial sealed barriers on large wall and roof areas is a good idea. BUT you simply can't full seal up all voids and all areas. So what happens when you try ? You end up sealing in any damp and wet that gets behind your vapour barrier, and it will. Best idea is to use some form of final sheet layer of insulation (vapour barrier) to all large surfaces areas, this prevents "most" of your living space warm moist air hitting the walls BUT then add good ventilation so the easiest path for all that moisture is your roof fans, open windows etc. All the areas you can't fully seal, allow the cavities to still breath. On our van I did 90% seal up with a final layer of sheet insulation behind roof and wall panels. But at the edges where roof and ceiling join, at the lower areas especially at the back of van, the cavities can still breath to dry out if need be. our 2 Maxx Air Fans are either open, or open and running pretty much 24/7. IN below zero in winter if were skiing the roof fans are open and Diesel air heater running to flush moisture and dry the air out. A year later and I have pulled wall and ceiling panels and zero condensation issues. Day to day inside the van we never get condensation, just a little on the inside of the windscreen sometimes. But as far as trying to full seal the van with a vapour barrier, from all the research I've seen vans aren't designed nor should they be full sealed up, vans are nor designed by manufacturers to be fully water proof and fully sealed up behind all the cavity spaces. Thats why there are drain holes all along the van sills.
@shadowfire77
@shadowfire77 6 ай бұрын
Problem with this theory is that you might get condensation quickly where you have the steel visible and any water there that tries to espace downwards but get trapped behind the insulation in the walls. Your theory could work if you leave an air gap between the insulation in the walls so the water can follow the steel walls and flow downwards. Also yes the vans are designed to let water out - because they get condensation. If you remove the physical possibility to get condensation, then you won't get any. It's physics laws straight forward. I've built 10 vans now and I'd still say that the best thing you can do is avoid any of the internal air to reach bare metal and the very best method for this is adding Armaflex closest to the steel. Then it's completely impossible to get any condensation at all.
@renstillmann
@renstillmann 5 ай бұрын
I think this is the way. But you must have an air gap (20mm preferably if using some reflective on foam board) between the steel and insulation. This way the van can get rid of the condensed water like it was designed to. Now I would guess you could easily go for some thin sheep wool between your steel and (actual) insulation. Since it's breathable and mold resistant. It should release any moisture over time. If you go this route I would guess these so called climate vaper barriers are the way to go. They control the flow rate a bit better to keep a nicer climate inside the van? Question mark? (I am no expert, just learning and reading about this topic)
@Namdor2012
@Namdor2012 2 ай бұрын
Wrong, cavities are only in doors with WIND down windows, in every van I know of....No drain holes in my Van apart from front doors, they are designed to release water as water enters from the winding window...Trim Attachments on any van should be sealed especially sidestrips, look at umpteen youtube videos about sealing factory roof plugs, and side trim!!!!Major issue with vans, they need trim properly sealed regardless of insulation or a build out..Do proper research! Not sure what Van you have but it Ain't a Merc, Transit or others I know of..
@rbrown
@rbrown 2 ай бұрын
@@Namdor2012 After 1 1/2 years and multiple sub zero ski trips I have pulled down my ceiling and wall panels and pulled back the 2 layers of Thinsulate, and the solid sheet (foil radiant layer) and what did I find ? No sign of any condensation, no water or condensation damage, no mould or mildew. Dry as a bone. I do not have a vapour barrier ! A cavity is just a "space" the whole van behind the walls, ceiling are cavity spaces. I do have strong air barriers and plenty of active ventilation and airflow 2 x Max Air fans open or running 24/7 You don't need a vapour barrier. Allowing a van to breath and plenty of airflow, and good insulation, is the key to stopping condensation. I have seen many a van that tries to seal up everything and they pull back walls etc to find damp, mould, wet insulation.
@tropicaoptica
@tropicaoptica 4 күн бұрын
@@rbrown Okay so who is right here?? I want to convert a cargo trailer into a camper 😩
@hopesfreedom2322
@hopesfreedom2322 2 жыл бұрын
Love it when you do this stuff Greg, will wait for a moment of peace over the weekend to watch 🙂
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and hope you enjoy it 😊
@brettsheard8847
@brettsheard8847 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectionist. Love your content and van build mate. Wish you and your family well. Happy travels Greg x
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
That’s very kind of you. Thank you 🙏🏼😃
@cliffp.8396
@cliffp.8396 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration, well done Greg.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏼
@andrewgraham2865
@andrewgraham2865 2 жыл бұрын
Really great but simple practical example and explanation - well done Greg!!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Andrew 😃
@myvanworld
@myvanworld Жыл бұрын
This is invaluable information. Thank you Greg, your videos are fantastic.
@lakenovember4694
@lakenovember4694 2 жыл бұрын
Love your precision and knowledge,such a useful vlog, thank you 🙏
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for great feedback 🤩
@orangealpine5267
@orangealpine5267 2 жыл бұрын
Top advice from a well trusted source, Thanks Greg
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your feedback 🙏🏼😊
@a_crafty_crafter
@a_crafty_crafter 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly demonstrated. Your videos are great and very informative.. keep up the good work.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Ian 👍🏼😃
@candicecwl8186
@candicecwl8186 Жыл бұрын
This was a great demonstration. Your videos have been so informative.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I’m pleased you like them Candice 😊
@055sos
@055sos 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work Greg. Good, clear, simple way to get the facts across...Brilliant!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@gannon5409
@gannon5409 6 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff.. so glad I found your channel
@MrDeanandrachel
@MrDeanandrachel 2 жыл бұрын
We’re currently looking for a van to do our own van build & your videos will be a constant help throughout our build. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Best wishes hope everything goes well for you both 😃👍🏼
@stevehalll-hl9ik
@stevehalll-hl9ik 10 ай бұрын
I have learnt so much from this video and your others. Saw you at Stratford upon Avon doing a talk to the punters. Learnt much there as well. Cheers Greg.😊
@guntherpommer6433
@guntherpommer6433 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg for the valuable information you provide. Watching you from far Chile. Cheers mate!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your support 👍🏼
@BigPubez69
@BigPubez69 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for helping me to FINALLY understand vapor barriers!
@janc9611
@janc9611 2 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to get this question answered for ages!!! Thank you!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Im so happy to have answers for you 😃
@robertmackintosh5163
@robertmackintosh5163 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, explains the situation very well. We have lots of condensation issues here in this part of the world, central Canada.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
The winter 🥶 does get very cold there
@stevenbeattie1137
@stevenbeattie1137 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Just started building my van and your videos and guides are by far the best. Always good to learn from someone who genuinely knows what they're talking about! 👏👏👏👍
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and best wishes for your build.
@lindamcdonaldcairns9874
@lindamcdonaldcairns9874 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg we have followed your advice and seeing your experiment we are really glad we did. Especially when we go to Scotland in winter!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
You can sleep soundly knowing you did a great job 👏🥰
@brianmcclure8012
@brianmcclure8012 2 жыл бұрын
Super and simple experiment Greg!!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it 👍🏼
@ianofsjkartwork
@ianofsjkartwork 2 жыл бұрын
That was a excellent experiment Greg..............definitely worth spending time getting you insulation right on your van first...........stay safe.........thanks for sharing
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Thank you for your support. 👍🏼😃
@sammcloughlin9291
@sammcloughlin9291 7 ай бұрын
Awesome way to demonstrate the benefits of vapour barriers...
@toronado455
@toronado455 2 жыл бұрын
great experiment and explanation! thank you! this type of information is precisely why I subscribed to your channel in the first place. 😊🏆✅
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your continued support 👍🏼😃
@PixelShade
@PixelShade 2 жыл бұрын
Greg, you are an absolute treasure for the RV- and Vanlife community! :D Having videos like this is key for people to understand how these things work.
@tonyhawk123
@tonyhawk123 2 жыл бұрын
In an ideal world we'd all have a Summon-A-Greg app, which sends a robotic Greg to just do the job for us.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that, thank you 🙏🏼
@davidharrower4097
@davidharrower4097 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video Greg. I’m just starting out on our conversion, and taking your advice from your build videos. First one being, insulation and vapour barrier are essential. 👍
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
You will be doing the right thing well done 👍🏼😃
@philabraham658
@philabraham658 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, Good practical demonstration… as you say, attention to detail in the taping is all it takes
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly and it’s not difficult to do just a little time.
@tanyaroyredcar
@tanyaroyredcar Жыл бұрын
proves that. Good one as ever! Hope that you're both well. R&T NYorks
@johnledgard3596
@johnledgard3596 2 жыл бұрын
Great experiment Greg, very clear. I'm eagerly awaiting the next addition with insulation on the bucket but no vapour barrier for the comparison between vapour barrier or no vapour barrier. The time and effort you put into these videos is really appreciated.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I might have to put these in a dedicated playlist. 🤔🤩
@davopottso1
@davopottso1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% convinced now! Nice One Greg!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad it has helped you 👍🏼😃
@re33ce
@re33ce 2 жыл бұрын
Great Blog As Always Greg ♥️💯 Definitely A Bad Idea Not Having A Barrier ,👏👏
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it does not make sense letting your van get wet inside. 🤔
@ian_morg
@ian_morg 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I did my van as you did yours, thanks for the explanation though 😎💪🏼
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pleased you did the right thing 👍🏼😃
@mablethebus
@mablethebus 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Greg. And great to meet you yesterday and took the time for a chat. 👍
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for coming to say hello. It was great to meet you too 😃
@Olan...
@Olan... 2 жыл бұрын
That is an absolutley brilliant Demo Greg...i have converted 3 vans in my time and always carry out thermal insulation and vapour barrier as standard. Great video.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Then you can sleep peacefully at night knowing you’ve done a first class job 👍🏼😃
@mmwaashumslowww7167
@mmwaashumslowww7167 2 жыл бұрын
That was well different Greg and I was impressed with the result.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
It really does work very well 👌🏼
@CLdriver1960
@CLdriver1960 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Greg. I’m going to share this video with my van builder friends! Edit: There’s also the effect of increased relative humidity due to cooking, heating and breathing. Good reason for proper ventilation as well. Thanks again for another great van build video. IMHO, you’re one of the best on YT!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Really appreciate your support 👍🏼😃
@eddvanlife7396
@eddvanlife7396 2 жыл бұрын
The Legend Of Virgoe continues. Thanx for clever chemistry lab demo.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Edd 😃
@Regi869
@Regi869 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Greg. I'll check out your videos about insulation in your playlist. Thanks
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. You’ll find some very useful facts there 😃
@markthompson2466
@markthompson2466 Жыл бұрын
Best video on KZbin on this vital subject....Fabulous
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe Жыл бұрын
Thank you mark 👍🏼😃
@fboest
@fboest Жыл бұрын
Those kind of proof videos are absolutely brilliant
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe Жыл бұрын
It’s not just someone’s opinion you can see the facts for yourself 👍🏼
@Allthingsbaloo
@Allthingsbaloo 2 жыл бұрын
As always fantastic video Greg. I really do love the scientific approach you take.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not just my thoughts it’s actual facts I’m trying to convey so people get the right information 😃
@Allthingsbaloo
@Allthingsbaloo 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregVirgoe and what better way to prove it than scientifically controlled experiments? Great job!
@leebrown9680
@leebrown9680 2 жыл бұрын
Smug grinning from me as I followed his advice. I can't tell you how many videos I've watched that said you don't need it. Thank you Greg 👍
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I know I’m trying my best to help point people in the right direction
@sherifelsharkawy7041
@sherifelsharkawy7041 2 жыл бұрын
You are an absolute genius 🤓. Your videos are all amazing 🤩. I am trying to watch all of them , before I buy my next van for a conversion. Thank you so much for all the efforts and all the valuable information that you introduce into your amazing videos. Honestly, I would trust no one to do the conversion of my next van , but you my friend. Great job 👌👍 I hope you can do it for me 😉
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I can help give you the right information. I don’t convert vehicles myself for a living. 😊
@AndyMiles-qu4ew
@AndyMiles-qu4ew Жыл бұрын
well done that man, you have done me a 100 % big favour. I have now decided how to insulate and vapour seal my van. Thank you.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you found that to be useful. Thanks for watching 👍🏼
@richies6898
@richies6898 2 жыл бұрын
Your van build videos are constant source of reference Greg, the difference adding just the PIR board to the roof of the van has been significant which convinced me I was going the right way. There's been a lot of chat around vapour barriers on the forums, this video should convince any doubters. You will spend thousands getting the interior how you want it, and have it all undone in a matter of months by ignoring this. Great work as always Greg 👍🏻
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly that. Thank you 🙏🏼
@LindzandLife
@LindzandLife 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Greg this is the way I've done my insulation on my build and so much rubbish about the vapour barrier. I'm about to start electrics and your videos are a blessing 🙌
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pleased that you followed my method. You will have no problems in the future. Best wishes 😊
@noelgregdavis8235
@noelgregdavis8235 2 жыл бұрын
Great job greg and a good example
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 👍🏼😃
@CORRIGEEN71
@CORRIGEEN71 2 жыл бұрын
Great illustration
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏼
@elaineinnz
@elaineinnz Жыл бұрын
Great experiment. Couldn't remember if I put the reflective barrier or insulation on first - knew I could rely on GregV to provide the correct answer! cheers :D
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe Жыл бұрын
You are welcome Elaine, best wishes with your conversion.
@stephenhall4432
@stephenhall4432 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg, it was great to finally chat to you in person after following you for nearly 4 years. Hope you had a great Camp Quirky. You will need a rest after meeting so many people. Regards, Steve.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
It was extremely busy but also great to meet so many new people that follow our channel. Thank you Steve 👍🏼😃
@neilt
@neilt 2 жыл бұрын
A really good demonstration. I've noticed a lot of US based van builders don't install vapour barriers, so have wondered how necessary it is. Now I know and will ensure I fit one when I get around to doing a build.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
The only time you wouldn’t need one is if the climate you was living in was always very warm above the dew point. 👍🏼😃
@neilt
@neilt 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregVirgoe That did occur to me as a reasonable situation.
@campervibe
@campervibe 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree with you on vapour barriers. Great vid 👍
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you both 🙏🏼🤩
@manondeslauriers2645
@manondeslauriers2645 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent démonstration!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏼
@0i-di
@0i-di 2 жыл бұрын
Did exactly this on our build thanks to your van build series. Huge thanks! The van is bone dry and stays cool in the sun and warm in the cold. So we’re very happy campers. Cheers Gregg. Would never have known what to do without you 👍🏻
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
That really makes me happy 😊 I know your van will be safe now
@0i-di
@0i-di 2 жыл бұрын
And I’ve just noticed I spelled Greg with two g’s… face… hand!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
@@0i-di no problem I’ve had much worse 😂👍🏼
@jartotable
@jartotable 6 ай бұрын
That really helped reassure me. Thank you
@lud1593
@lud1593 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg thanks for another great video👍. Just watching a new channel called Ame in a van and she talks about this guy who is an absolute legend who she watched whilst building her van. That guy is you.👍
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Ame and I chatted a few times when she was building her van 🚐 I’m so pleased she is now living her dreams and enjoying life 😃
@hansbrinker943
@hansbrinker943 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice experiment Greg.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@andrewpeak1124
@andrewpeak1124 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual!!
@steph8782
@steph8782 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, I'm glad to see this. Lots to think about now
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I hope it helps you make the right decisions 👍🏼 best wishes 😊
@peterbrockman161
@peterbrockman161 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Tasmania and when I commenced my van build I had the luxury of watching your van build videos Greg. Hence my Sprinter has a complete vapour barrier and is well insulated. This demo video just impresses how vital those two components are when well fitted. Thanks mate. 👍
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I’m very pleased you did the right thing. Well done 👍🏼😃
@alistairboak3128
@alistairboak3128 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Greg. Thank you!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Thanks for watching 👍🏼😃
@AB-C1
@AB-C1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Greg! Cheers mate 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@christycullen2585
@christycullen2585 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Greg well explained
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Christy 😃
@mitchmitchell515
@mitchmitchell515 Жыл бұрын
Excellent really practical demo thanks
@paulrixon1644
@paulrixon1644 2 жыл бұрын
Another good lesson Greg!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏼
@geofftaylor368
@geofftaylor368 Жыл бұрын
Nice one Greg, nice to know all my hard work was worth doing. 😇😍
@jimmcgarvie1483
@jimmcgarvie1483 Жыл бұрын
Nice work Greg 👍
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏼
@chrisneville7310
@chrisneville7310 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Gregg👍, I spent over £500 on the insulation and vapour barrier, I'd never put in a single glazed window for that reason also.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
The double glazed ones are much better thermally. We do get some condensation on our bonded windows when it’s really cold 🥶
@chrisneville7310
@chrisneville7310 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregVirgoe A great excuse to leave the cold winters behind 😁👍
@clearprop
@clearprop 2 жыл бұрын
You're preaching to the converted here, but I really hope this provides support to those who still doubt the benefits of a vapour barrier. Great to see you at Camp Quirky, I'll be sporting your famous 'Half Hour' t-shirt very soon... 🙂
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support Dan. Very much appreciated 👍🏼😃
@popeyethesailor9
@popeyethesailor9 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with what you say Greg. I was interested to see what VW did in there California, when I inspected one there was no insulation or vapour barrier behind the sink cupboards and the bare skin of the van was visible, this was on a 2018 California. I did hear that Vw say the output of the diesel heater over comes any issues. When i did my Vw camper I didn’t use any insulation I just rely on the diesel heater, obviously it’s worked much harder and very very wasteful on fuel, but in the morning after a winter camp the exterior of the van like the inside is bone dry. If I used my van for longer than weekends then I would have adopted the vapour barrier and insulation approach. Great video as always.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
You have to keep the entire metal fabric of your vehicle above the Dew point temperature and provide loads of ventilation too but I guarantee it would cost an absolute fortune every night and would not work over winter when it’s really cold. You are paying ridiculous money for that sub standard installation too 😳
@jonnypickett2546
@jonnypickett2546 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Greg. I have followed your advice on 3 van builds after seeing that you obviously know your onions.. I would be interested in seeing the test again using insulation but no vapour barrier as I know many builders put in insulation with no barrier..
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I will do that as a follow up video. 👍🏼😃
@craster_van_kippers
@craster_van_kippers 2 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what I thought jonny. Get it done Greg as that will be the one that will get people thinking.
@riboid
@riboid Жыл бұрын
The building philosophy years ago, was to put polythene (non-permeable) over the insulation (usually Rockwool or fibreglass (itchy stuff) and then plasterboard over it. But, any gaps within the plasterboard, plaster failure (plaster can provide air tightness layers too), the polythene can sweat at the back and the moisture will run/drip down and start the erosion process of your timber studs, so, that's why, if you want increased air tightness within your house, you use an air tightness member called Intell and then tape up the seams/joints with Tescon Vana air tightness tape.
@mr.skipper4544
@mr.skipper4544 2 жыл бұрын
Great experiment I always wanted to know if this theory works, and you proved that it does work " vapor barriers do work when done correctly" Thank You for proving this theory 👍🇺🇸
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they do work and it why everywhere in industry when you have cold metal surfaces they are insulated and vapour barrier applied to prevent condensation. It’s not hard to do either.
@thedicksons1284
@thedicksons1284 2 жыл бұрын
A very well needed video Greg and an excellent visual demonstration and explanation. The number of times I see people doing conversions and not putting a vapour control layer on the inside is unbelievable and even more unbelievable is that they don't here me shouting at the telly " are you havin a laugh mate". I'm a retired building standards surveyor with 42 years service so I've seen multiple build project with failed vapour control layers. I was involved in a demolition job where a timber framed house had to be demolished because the structural timber had rotted at the sole plate and compression started on the loadbearing timbers applying load to the decorative, non-structural brickwork that cracked and partially demolished itself. Anywhoo the problem was found to be poor fitting of the vapour barrier, missing sections of vapour barrier and massive tears, holes where the services had been installed which resulted in the old style quilt insulation being soaked because dew point temperature occurred in the outer 1/3rd of the quilt insulation which, in turn soaked the insulation then the timbers and structural plywood (which sort of answers Jonny's question below). I just don't understand why folk would live in a steel box and not expect condensation on the steel yet they buy a window vac to remove it from glass........DAH!!!! Oh and one other thing that baffles me.......all those minibus conversions out there where they paint the glass they don't want, window tint the glass they do, and frame behind it leaving "windows". I've commented on many build videos asking for an explanation of how they seal between the glass and the painted, framed and insulated sections because, as far as I know, silicon will fail and condensation from the visible glass must surely drop behind the framing so there is a future potential rot issue down the road. Nobody has ever given me a proper answer and most say "oh I used proprietary seals".......maybe I should ask Autoglass for a proprietary seal for a 2006 Mercedes Vario minibus conversion between the glass and timber framed wall panel please and oh, it needs to be 100% watertight..... so the guy will scratch his head, other body parts, look through his store room and reply..."what was the question again" A future video suggestion that I'm sure you've not shown before unless I've missed it , would be to deliberately wire a 12V item using too thin a cable to show meltdown and heating of the wire so people start thinking about their cable sizing. You have excellent videos on that subject but I don't recall you demonstrating a failure/overheat scenario in real time so just a thought. Keep the videos coming Greg and sorry for the long comment but some things make me go off on one especially important issues.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing isn’t it how even when the facts are proven in front of your very eyes it’s still questioned by those that have no academic proof themselves. But there are 5% believe the earth is flat so there is no helping some people 😂🤣 Here’s my cable sizing video with the wires bursting into flames that you wanted to see ⚡️😳 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaCpmGmle9hjiLc
@thedicksons1284
@thedicksons1284 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregVirgoe Thanks Greg I'll check it out now
@carloknuwer1026
@carloknuwer1026 2 жыл бұрын
HI Greg, ive seen almost every single video of you and used as much of your knowledge as my build would allow. Still everyday gratefull of that, Thank you very much. Still hate the jubileeclips just like you, started to leak just like yours... And so on and so on... A friend of mine still believes they old sheeps wool thing with cladding... I'll sinds him this video ;-) Greetings from Vught, the Netherlands
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I have noticed recently that even the manufacturers website for sheep wool insulation are advocating the use of vapour barrier so they must have changed their minds 😃
@markratzlaff
@markratzlaff 5 ай бұрын
Loved this .. thank you!
@happyglampers9053
@happyglampers9053 2 жыл бұрын
Facts over fiction i’d say Greg. You’re akin to Ronseal … does exactly what it say in the tin👍 PS great to see you imparting your time serves skills at Camp Quirky this last weekend too 👍 Cheers
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy to give my time and expertise for free so that everyone can benefit by doing the right thing and not be sidetracked by mis information and speculation.
@abikerstale806
@abikerstale806 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration of how to form a closed cell installation by using insulation & vapour barrier- I do smile when I see comments about using vapour barrier & the reasons why you shouldn’t use it. Yet they use celotex on there roofs or suggest ventilation- you just need to sit in a back of a van when it’s pouring with rain outside to see the condensation forming like a river… - no amount of ventilation will stop it forming, unless you’re sleeping with all the doors an windows open. Not very stealth or safe! 👍 Thank you for sharing the holy grail of Vapour barrier debates! 🎉🎉
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support 👍🏼😃
@D.A.M.I.R
@D.A.M.I.R 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍good explanation
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😃
@robtaylor7448
@robtaylor7448 2 жыл бұрын
Very well presented and so true
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 👍🏼😃
@helbrakarret
@helbrakarret 2 жыл бұрын
A great video Greg!!!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏼
@adamshayes
@adamshayes 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Greg 👍 top job mate
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you buddy 👍🏼😃
@Scud_and_thesTig
@Scud_and_thesTig 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video Greg 👍💙❤️
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks buddy 👍🏼😊
@Rob.1340
@Rob.1340 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Cool experiment. 👍😎
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it 😃
@mausie1967
@mausie1967 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this informative video.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome 😉
@LiamTheTerrible
@LiamTheTerrible 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly explained!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you mate, appreciate your comment 👍🏼😃
@paulhughes9724
@paulhughes9724 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much 👍🏼
@mwint1982
@mwint1982 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome 😉
@mitsibeaver
@mitsibeaver 11 ай бұрын
Nice experiment and great to see the results and put my mind at rest with my sound deadening. Might have to get a roll of foil tape just to make sure those edges are totally sealed. Cheers 👍😎🤟
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 11 ай бұрын
Yes you must tape all the edges and joins or it will not keep the moisture out. 👍🏼😃
@mitsibeaver
@mitsibeaver 11 ай бұрын
@@GregVirgoe Ok, the metal foil tape will be suitable, yeah?
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 11 ай бұрын
@@mitsibeaver yrs aluminium foil tape is the best thing to use. 👍🏼
@stevem3534
@stevem3534 2 жыл бұрын
Great info that should prove doubters wrong 👍
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt there will still be many that don’t believe it. 😂
@theageingexplorer9488
@theageingexplorer9488 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect use of the studio.. I did watch an American video discussing that in dry areas, a vapour barrier is not required..
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Providing your climate does not fall below the dew point even at night you do not need one correct. Doesn’t it get very cold in desert areas at night?
@theageingexplorer9488
@theageingexplorer9488 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregVirgoe I was just highlighting that one might not need it depending on location. I’m convinced European conversions should have one
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
@@theageingexplorer9488 and I was agreeing with you 👍🏼😃
@1life2pono
@1life2pono 7 ай бұрын
Brilliant!
@harrybursey3029
@harrybursey3029 2 жыл бұрын
You are a top man Greg.
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 👍🏼
@kevingalloway9338
@kevingalloway9338 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.thanks
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍🏼
@UKRussellSmith
@UKRussellSmith 2 жыл бұрын
Be interesting to see what would happen with just insulation and no vapour barrier. Maybe do the same experiment but hold the insulation on with chicken wire. Great video though Greg as all ways 👍
@pteppig
@pteppig 2 жыл бұрын
Closed cell foam like armacell might show some condensation when it's not entirely glued to the shell. There could be rust between shell and insulation. But if it's glued on well, it's like a barrier by itself.
@JimJones-gd2jy
@JimJones-gd2jy 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you !
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome 🙏🏼
@bruceeldred6417
@bruceeldred6417 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!!It would be interesting to see how much moisture would get in if there was a hole in the vapor barrier. It would have to be a long term test. I used the same type of barrier, but when adding finished wall, I know there are some screw holes through the barrier. Hopefully the small amount of moisture that gets through will do no harm.
@pau1phi11ips
@pau1phi11ips 2 жыл бұрын
Screws are usually fine, the screw self-plugs the hole
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
As Paul rightly says a screw does not leave a hole 🕳😃👍🏼
@laurenmichele2029
@laurenmichele2029 Жыл бұрын
@@GregVirgoe what about light fittings
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe Жыл бұрын
@@laurenmichele2029 you seal around any recesses or cables with foil tape as I have shown in my build videos. A little care and attention is all that’s needed. 😊
@sarahthedreamcatcher8357
@sarahthedreamcatcher8357 2 жыл бұрын
Great information Greg thanks 😊 xxx
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, hope you are keeping well 😁x
@sarahthedreamcatcher8357
@sarahthedreamcatcher8357 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregVirgoe yes thank you should be at the camper and over lander show in june if your are both there will pop and say hi. Hope all is well with you xxx
@chrism4452
@chrism4452 9 ай бұрын
Such a great video! I’m in the middle of a build and the thought of moisture stopped me In my tracks. Glad to have found you on KZbin! Side note: Have you or anyone dealt with water build up in the rocker panels? I have run into this issue with Ram promaster 2500. I’m lost with how water keeps getting in. 🤷‍♂️ ty for all your effort in each vid!!
@GregVirgoe
@GregVirgoe 9 ай бұрын
I’m aware that there is a poor design on the scuttle below the windscreen that allows water to pour onto the engine bay. Make sure any drain holes are not blocked with debris, any rubber bonnet seals are intact. Use a bit of DW40 on head as water repellent. I have known others to cover the engine bay with on combustible plastic sheet to keep water away. Hope some of those help you 👍🏼
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