Future State Introduces A New Justice League

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@Skooby59
@Skooby59 4 жыл бұрын
Arris being a salty comic fan is something i didnt know i needed. Polite, honest, and not fanboy-eee. I dig it hahaha
@St3v3yJ
@St3v3yJ 4 жыл бұрын
I think that's the most important point, if you just give them the title as the best of whatever without earning it, people will reject it. I sure have.
@kaydee1485
@kaydee1485 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was the future though, aren't all those people he mentioned dead or at least not active? I would get it if we were 50 issues in and we saw a mediocre backstory but if that's not been revealed they can say what they want, they just have to fufill it with superb storytelling.
@KevinACarroll1996
@KevinACarroll1996 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaydee1485 This is supposed to introduce these characters to us. If this was an original universe with original IPs, it would have merely been mediocre, but when trying to cash in on previously established characters, you should try to show respect to those characters, otherwise you'll alienate your target audience and ruin the entire reason you used those IPs in the first place.
@victorsardaneta8727
@victorsardaneta8727 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaydee1485 it was super extra the "greatest detective in the Multiverse" it's clear what the intent was.
@nasonvillanueva4542
@nasonvillanueva4542 4 жыл бұрын
Quiet, nerd.
@CooperAATE
@CooperAATE 4 жыл бұрын
"Here's some new enemies-" Dead. "New Justice Lea-" Dead. OH OKAY.
@The.Nasty.
@The.Nasty. 4 жыл бұрын
Accurate 😂
@Johanisnotreal
@Johanisnotreal 4 жыл бұрын
ULTRAVIOLET LATERN
@xo_knives8763
@xo_knives8763 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@noircat5
@noircat5 4 жыл бұрын
"This is okay..I guess?"
@candleman7457
@candleman7457 4 жыл бұрын
What a waste
@MrBreakdownx
@MrBreakdownx 4 жыл бұрын
"She's the best detective in the multiver-" gets random ad. Even youtube disagreed.
@deathgod2832
@deathgod2832 4 жыл бұрын
XD
@S_Warden
@S_Warden 4 жыл бұрын
I think that’s foreshadowing that something bad had happened to the great detective of the past to make them say that. Plus I think he’s forgetting these characters are still green nor do they possibly even have access to those heroes.
@MrBreakdownx
@MrBreakdownx 4 жыл бұрын
@@S_Warden I could see it
@bobdylan1968
@bobdylan1968 4 жыл бұрын
Why are you guys fan boying over the old characters? They are coming back, relax. Why not just enjoy the new characters and actually give them a chance? Instead of being so dull that you can't even manage to stop comparing the two as if they both can't exist.
@AsteriusAetosSonOfTheDawn
@AsteriusAetosSonOfTheDawn 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobdylan1968 They are obviously sjw pandering except Jon Superman
@thetunnelrat
@thetunnelrat 4 жыл бұрын
No need to excuse yourself for the rant. We all agree with you. Those statements made in the comic sounded like it come out of cw's batwoman
@alexwyckoff8962
@alexwyckoff8962 4 жыл бұрын
THE MOST CRINGE SHOW EVER
@vanta.8912
@vanta.8912 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it definitely sounded like they were rushin the status of the characters and flipping their character types around
@ohihassan693
@ohihassan693 3 жыл бұрын
True words have never been spoken before.
@AJ-jq3hm
@AJ-jq3hm 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexwyckoff8962 indeed.. Right up there with Super(anti-man)girl and Titans on the cringe scale.
@pandawillishelthostage2985
@pandawillishelthostage2985 3 жыл бұрын
@Giovanni Balbosa-Mc Intosh no
@glenien
@glenien 4 жыл бұрын
literally flipped out when they said she's the best detective! like hold onnnnnnnnn
@Agentie-x8e
@Agentie-x8e 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe she is because the originals are dead but I’m so mad about that
@adrianivashkov4242
@adrianivashkov4242 3 жыл бұрын
@@Agentie-x8e if Bruce isnt around, then it should be Tim
@sidsfuriousfades7805
@sidsfuriousfades7805 3 жыл бұрын
Careful your showing something that needs not saying
@TheDizzieC
@TheDizzieC 3 жыл бұрын
@@adrianivashkov4242 What if Tim is also dead? Maybe most of them died and that's why this future state exists.
@walterdayrit675
@walterdayrit675 3 жыл бұрын
SJWs have infected DC as well. It's pretty obvious here.
@Retr-xk7xm
@Retr-xk7xm 4 жыл бұрын
Aris when you called it out that new green lantern is the best detective now I remembered why I subscribed back in grade 5 because you have the same love of these characters as I do just wanted to say that
@kappadarwin9476
@kappadarwin9476 4 жыл бұрын
I mean she has a ring that allows her to create anything she can imagine and has formal education in detective work so she is more equipped than Batman.
@redassassinyt4908
@redassassinyt4908 4 жыл бұрын
@@kappadarwin9476 but equipment doesn't even come close to smarts, training, and wit
@kappadarwin9476
@kappadarwin9476 4 жыл бұрын
@@redassassinyt4908 Batman is a detective in name only. He has the title more as a honorific than an actual certification. The New Green Lantern being a former cop has more familiarity with actual detective work and procedure.
@neramix_alw1300
@neramix_alw1300 4 жыл бұрын
@@redassassinyt4908 Agreed. Sure she has a Green Lantern Ring. So it does prove she has the will power. Along with the formal detective work. But comparing her and Bruce? Naw. The real difference between the two is experience. Jo did go through the formal training. But I doubt she had the amount of training Bruce had. Bats gained a majority of his experience through training around the world and on-field experience. Now I may be biased here since I just learned about Jo. But claiming that she is the best detective in the DC Multiverse? Impossible. We the readers haven't grown that deep of a connection to Jo that we feel like she even earns the title in the first place. Like Arris said. We need more information on why she earns the title in the first place.
@redassassinyt4908
@redassassinyt4908 4 жыл бұрын
@@kappadarwin9476 but in order to be a good Detective you need training right? You can't have something like a phone and people will call you smart, no you need to go to school, just like that, this new Green Lantern can't be the greatest detective in the multiverse by just having a ring
@yuelinxie5721
@yuelinxie5721 4 жыл бұрын
I really like Arris's "salty rant" because it shows what true comic book long-time fans are thinking
@twinkle152000
@twinkle152000 3 жыл бұрын
True, it's fair criticism
@iamnotawfulanymore3873
@iamnotawfulanymore3873 3 жыл бұрын
#RetconDoomsdayClock
@mrmsc919
@mrmsc919 3 жыл бұрын
Let me guess- Somebody read 2 comics from Walmart and applied for a screenwriter's job for Justice League, didn't make the cut and now we're stuck with their version?
@FantasmaCAW2K
@FantasmaCAW2K 4 жыл бұрын
So this Batman’s been around for less than a month and he’s “saved” Gotham. While people get shot there for just wearing a mask? This isn’t making any sense to me.
@FantasmaCAW2K
@FantasmaCAW2K 4 жыл бұрын
@Alexa Mancilla I honestly don’t mind if Tim Fox is the new Batman, don’t get me wrong I’d much rather see Damian Wayne take the cowl cuz I think it’ll be a lot more interesting having the super sons as 2/3 of this JL’s trinity. But for Tim Fox I’m not for or against it. Hopefully DC will release his origins so that I’ll judge for myself.
@alejandrogonzalez00
@alejandrogonzalez00 4 жыл бұрын
@@FantasmaCAW2K is rather have Tim Drake be the new Batman I felt like this “future state” would’ve been a great opportunity for Tim Drake fans get their wishes fulfilled buuut no talk about wasted potential I mean we already had Richard being Batman, Jason briefly but none for Tim that for me is so dumb
@Gorypaladin346
@Gorypaladin346 3 жыл бұрын
@@alejandrogonzalez00 Tim’s been Batman before
@alejandrogonzalez00
@alejandrogonzalez00 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gorypaladin346 oh yea which time cause I don’t really recall any time unlike someone like Richard Grayson which there a handful of stories that I could name but for Tim not so much
@dustinmaxwell259
@dustinmaxwell259 3 жыл бұрын
@Alexa Mancilla Nightwing = Great. But Damian is an incredibly annoying spoiled little prick.
@justincholos.balisang6884
@justincholos.balisang6884 4 жыл бұрын
"The new Wonder Woman is from Brazil." No wonder why no men had survived there.
@ShowheenGuy
@ShowheenGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Amazonian eh! guess where the Amazon Jungle is located! lol
@mrmsc919
@mrmsc919 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShowheenGuy Next issue: She delivers packages by day, super hero by night.
@neminem233
@neminem233 3 жыл бұрын
I heard she’s Brazillian
@IAmAlpharius20
@IAmAlpharius20 7 ай бұрын
Memories broken
@DemonVido
@DemonVido 3 жыл бұрын
"This isn't your dads justice league" That's the problem
@mrmsc919
@mrmsc919 3 жыл бұрын
Then they get taken out the next day. Problem solved. lol
@mrmoonboi9534
@mrmoonboi9534 4 жыл бұрын
I wish Damian Wayne was Batman in this series, his chemistry between him and Jon as always been a good read.
@pickedceasar1216
@pickedceasar1216 4 жыл бұрын
You mean Jon?
@mrmoonboi9534
@mrmoonboi9534 4 жыл бұрын
@@pickedceasar1216 my mistake, sorry.
@levistea174
@levistea174 4 жыл бұрын
I would have LOVED that
@quentinfogger5755
@quentinfogger5755 4 жыл бұрын
It would have been great to see Damian Wayne as Batman in the Future State timeline. How do you think he would get along with this new team?
@soumyabratosaha6409
@soumyabratosaha6409 4 жыл бұрын
Where Damian went??
@HectorHernandez-yb7dr
@HectorHernandez-yb7dr 4 жыл бұрын
They disrespected my mans homie, The Batman.
@j_u_s_t_d_e_e_
@j_u_s_t_d_e_e_ 4 жыл бұрын
fr
@jukilllsss2854
@jukilllsss2854 4 жыл бұрын
How
@Etherisabove
@Etherisabove 3 жыл бұрын
Not really
@Wavy932
@Wavy932 3 жыл бұрын
@@jukilllsss2854 wdym how?? Batman's had over 8 decades to prove why he's the best and this new GL comes out of nowhere and is suddenly the best🙄 its just like Captain Marvel in the MCU being the new powerhouse over Thor, it's just not right😪
@jukilllsss2854
@jukilllsss2854 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wavy932 awe ok that makes sense I think entertainment companies have no patience anymore as far as building things, so everything is forced and pushed to the moon immediately
@Trethar512
@Trethar512 4 жыл бұрын
As a chef, I agree with the amount of salt in this video.
@njmusica
@njmusica 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Shibefu
@Shibefu 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that you’re salty is completely understandable. I feel like the intention of presenting these characters as better than their predecessors is a poor attempt at making them interesting or forcing them onto a pedestal for which they haven’t earned. Similar to a Mary Sue.
@mrmsc919
@mrmsc919 3 жыл бұрын
I give more props to Young Justice and the Titans.
@mangkubi
@mangkubi 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they pick Tim fox as Batman? There are better candidates like tim, dick or damian.
@jonathansoko1085
@jonathansoko1085 2 жыл бұрын
@@mangkubi it's a woke decision not a logical one
@jonathansoko1085
@jonathansoko1085 2 жыл бұрын
@Tanner Hutchings how sway
@bowlfrog1484
@bowlfrog1484 4 жыл бұрын
This rant is so correct. They messed up a lot of things with this comic. Absolutely forgetting the original and best heroes accomplishments in the DC universe is something fans just don’t agree with.
@redbullet8807
@redbullet8807 4 жыл бұрын
Literally doesn’t matter because it’s its a two issue series and DC goes back to their regular comics in March.
@bowlfrog1484
@bowlfrog1484 4 жыл бұрын
@@redbullet8807 yeah I guess you’re right.
@MistaAwen
@MistaAwen 4 жыл бұрын
Comics are becoming too political
@zaheerdawood3814
@zaheerdawood3814 4 жыл бұрын
@@MistaAwen yep... DC getting Woke in their comics now
@TheEnigmaticBM39
@TheEnigmaticBM39 4 жыл бұрын
@@MistaAwen how was this comic political?
@connorthegunlovingeek7465
@connorthegunlovingeek7465 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that she's a better detective than Tim Drake is already a huge stretch at best
@kdrpai
@kdrpai 4 жыл бұрын
The whole claim of “she is the best detective” or he is the best Batman really turns me off, no proof only statements, while in the future Batman series vigilantes/ masked people are being hunted by the magistrate, I call baloney!
@kaydee1485
@kaydee1485 4 жыл бұрын
Wait for the story to unfold, this is just issue 1. They never said he was the best batman either, they said he 'truely' saved Gotham. That might mean he killed off or permanently incapacitated batman's rogues gallery, we dont know. Let's wait for more issues.
@tofunmiosunsami5363
@tofunmiosunsami5363 4 жыл бұрын
No Batman has been stated to truly save Gotham so no dc is saying he's the best Batman.
@howlthehell9791
@howlthehell9791 4 жыл бұрын
It’s that sjw agenda
@billbutton8468
@billbutton8468 3 жыл бұрын
Yea its supposed to intrigue you and make you wonder how that's possible. I think they're going to go into it soon
@billbutton8468
@billbutton8468 3 жыл бұрын
@@howlthehell9791 oh god, don't bring that weird shit onto this channel. You can criticize characters and writing without trying to bring identity and weird shit like that into it.
@Hidacal
@Hidacal 4 жыл бұрын
Looking at this makes me look forward to another reboot in another 2-3 years..
@Odyssey-ot6nb
@Odyssey-ot6nb Жыл бұрын
Weird reading this in 2023
@Vega-lw5tl
@Vega-lw5tl 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing that is interesting about this series is Yara being so damn beautiful.
@jackmyers8687
@jackmyers8687 3 жыл бұрын
I must agree. A very well drawn character. Not that the old Wonder Woman was a hag but damn I love this new ones look!
@matthiasorderson4452
@matthiasorderson4452 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciated the rant cuz I feel The same way bout everything
@pavankrishna.s396
@pavankrishna.s396 4 жыл бұрын
When this guy rants about something you know it's got issues.
@ninjahombrepalito1721
@ninjahombrepalito1721 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr? XD
@ShowheenGuy
@ShowheenGuy 4 жыл бұрын
She is the best in the MULTIVERSE. You truly need to think about that one and it is then when you will see how wrong he is! There truly is a first for everything, isn't there! Let me give you all a hint. Stephen Strange was the best Sorcerer before he was even a Sorcerer. He also gained most of his experience in battle in a "single time frame" (which means that 1 day for Wong was actually the equivalent to years for Strange) against Dormammu.
@pavankrishna.s396
@pavankrishna.s396 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShowheenGuy so??? what are you saying??? Dr. Strange was not introduced as the best sorcerer, he was introduced as master of black magic and later only got his origin story, still he wasn't called the best but ancient one was still alive. Latdr only as time passed he became sorcerer supreme after learning from the ancient one and taking his title sorcerer supreme. Also looks like the one you said was the MCU's storyline but still there are minor differences like strange wasn't a prodigy, he didn't even know the ancient one was magical until one after some time seeing him driving away a spirit, the battle with Dormamu came much much later in his career.
@ninjahombrepalito1721
@ninjahombrepalito1721 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShowheenGuy it's like you ignored his whole argument. But even taking your example, sorcerers are a secret society on Earth. No other planets. And only few people are sorcerers. So it's really not a stretch that an atheist and unorthodox neurosurgeon that learned magic and shifted his full dedication from medicine to magic would then come to be sorcerer supreme. . Really not the same as some human teenage girl we just met just happens to be the greatest detective in the multiverse. Of all the many detectives on each of the planets, many with years of dedication and experience. And she's the best detective just because she is. And especially because we already have other characters that are very outstanding detectives. Really not the same.
@ShowheenGuy
@ShowheenGuy 3 жыл бұрын
He is arguing that experience outweighs talent and skill. I understand that achievements may entitle somebody as "great, greater, or greatest," but again, you're all missing and ignoring my rebuttal, which is that quality > quantity. You are all thinking and working backwards, beginning from 'in the moment' to the past. But what about the future!?
@jonathonvieira9583
@jonathonvieira9583 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Justice League is full of a bunch of Captain Marvel
@vicentserrano9268
@vicentserrano9268 4 жыл бұрын
Truly the worst. At least jon is the only dc character hss been in comics in just a few or more years, especially one of my favorite comics DCeased.
@tschmitty1843
@tschmitty1843 4 жыл бұрын
What does that even mean
@AmanKumar-ty8kc
@AmanKumar-ty8kc 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Stupid sjw crap
@MR-xm9on
@MR-xm9on 4 жыл бұрын
this new run feels like a CW show
@Emmanuelmatu
@Emmanuelmatu 4 жыл бұрын
All I want to know is what the heck happened to Damien Wayne's Batman and why we got Tim Fox's Batman. I was really digging the dynamic between Jon and Damien.
@tutu45600
@tutu45600 3 жыл бұрын
I KNOW!
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the dynamic already screwed up when they stupidly aged up Jon to rush things?
@streakspider2435
@streakspider2435 2 жыл бұрын
@Olsen Ciuni damien is half middle eastern they can easily make him dark and they should. Plus it makes sense since all the robins look the same making one different in skin colour makes a lotta sense.
@ramasamy001
@ramasamy001 4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you. You can't just drop stuff like this and expect us to believe you.
@redbullet8807
@redbullet8807 4 жыл бұрын
If it takes place decades into the future p, it’s plausible within the context of the story.
@toledochristianmatthew9919
@toledochristianmatthew9919 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonlee2438 the problem is they haven't proven themselves yet and only had a few issues. Their stories aren't even fleshed out yet. And DC they know if this fails they will try to sweep all of this under a rug and create another crisis event that brings things to another new status quo, wasting everyone's time getting attached to these characters.
@Jordan-389
@Jordan-389 4 жыл бұрын
I would prefer if Damian or dick was the new Batman and at this point of time shouldn’t Tim drake been know as the best detective and it feels weird to jump straight into this without getting to read how they save the world and join together. It writing terms show don’t tell
@michaelmacleod6517
@michaelmacleod6517 3 жыл бұрын
Tim and Damian are too white to be Batman now. Totes not racist but that's how DC sees it now.
@YoungKalis96
@YoungKalis96 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmacleod6517 dick doesn’t wanna be Batman and neither does Damian lol
@link8042
@link8042 3 жыл бұрын
@@YoungKalis96 That’s why Tim makes the most sense.
@adrianivashkov4242
@adrianivashkov4242 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmacleod6517 they should of used Cass then. Best fighter in the batfam so why not her.
@spe02001
@spe02001 3 жыл бұрын
@@adrianivashkov4242 ya, Cass talk less which a lot like bat character.
@clonecommander2600
@clonecommander2600 4 жыл бұрын
I thought I’d like future state but, yeah no
@utlwanangmmeti9466
@utlwanangmmeti9466 4 жыл бұрын
Yea like Jon I miss the old justice league
@Troonielicious
@Troonielicious 4 жыл бұрын
No way after this video
@clonecommander2600
@clonecommander2600 4 жыл бұрын
@@Troonielicious Jon is the only good part of it all
@TheOnlyRealGamerOnEarth
@TheOnlyRealGamerOnEarth 4 жыл бұрын
And this is why comics are slowly failing. People want them to do something different but when they do everyone bitches. So then they get forced to just retexture old arcs with the same characters.
@Troonielicious
@Troonielicious 4 жыл бұрын
@@clonecommander2600 that’s what’s scary, the other characters are bringing him down with them,hopefully he doesn’t lose popularity, I’m loving Dceased DeadPlanet John, really shows how he can be the greatest superman going forward
@Rand0.Mality.74
@Rand0.Mality.74 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting less "Fifth Element"-more "Janelle Monae" from this Green Lantern. Js
@SuperMechguy
@SuperMechguy 4 жыл бұрын
I see they are taking the Star Trek Discovery route of making them the best ever no questions asked.
@mrmsc919
@mrmsc919 3 жыл бұрын
Discovery was cool and all but- These new fans will believe ANYTHING put in front of them. Anybody wanna buy a bridge? I've got 2 of them. One in Manhattan and the other in California.
@Supergrunt8
@Supergrunt8 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite part is when he started ranting, I wholeheartedly agree.
@jyavant
@jyavant 4 жыл бұрын
I felt your rant was well within reason.
@bobdylan1968
@bobdylan1968 4 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't? It was just fan boying like a child. "Wahhhh the og characters are supposed to be the best! Wahhhh" Why would you want these new characters be bargain bin versions of the previous ones? They are building off the ones that came before. They SHOULD be better than them. It'd be factually shit writing if they pander to that whiney entitled attitude. If everything had to be punctuated with, "kent lifts a massive amount of weight on his shoulders, like his father before him. But but oh don't worry, clark is still stronger". Or "a brilliant detective, but of course only second best" lmfao. Like come. On. And it DOES make narrative sense. They've been doing this a long long time already. We just haven't seen those stories. This takes place, where these characters are already WELLL established in their roles.
@kingsiree
@kingsiree 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobdylan1968 imma go ahead and tell you bob. Nobody is gonna read that. Especially if you’re defending this bull😂😂 and you can’t complain and say he’s fanboying like a child then leave a whole essay
@AsteriusAetosSonOfTheDawn
@AsteriusAetosSonOfTheDawn 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobdylan1968 we haven’t seen any of them grow only Superboy
@Red-nz6li
@Red-nz6li 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobdylan1968 “we just haven’t seen those stories” that’s exactly his point they just shove it down your throat without saying why they are the best you cant just spend 50+ years establishing and developing a character to their peak just to turn and around make someone with only a month of progress and say they’re better in my opinion they should have developed them more individually before making these claims and such.
@bobdylan1968
@bobdylan1968 4 жыл бұрын
@@AsteriusAetosSonOfTheDawn they have their own separate comics! Gah!
@Ra-reid
@Ra-reid 4 жыл бұрын
I see Aris has earned his red lantern ring and gave into the rage
@tsundokus
@tsundokus 4 жыл бұрын
I just want a red lantern omnibus reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@redassassinyt4908
@redassassinyt4908 4 жыл бұрын
He embodies every DC fan's rage
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 4 жыл бұрын
@@redassassinyt4908 marvel fans too, did you see New New Warriors? Horrendous
@OLY00-0
@OLY00-0 4 жыл бұрын
@@ComicBookGuy420 LOL Marvel did the same thing again with the “Children Of Atom”
@carlthomas5307
@carlthomas5307 4 жыл бұрын
Your rant is perfectly justified. I totally agree with you. It’s like a slap in the face to the original characters and the fans.
@ghostsofwargow2511
@ghostsofwargow2511 4 жыл бұрын
When you were naming off other great detectives, you forgot to mention Rorschach, lol. One of my favorites.
@billbutton8468
@billbutton8468 3 жыл бұрын
He's kind of more of just a normal psycho
@datscrazy4095
@datscrazy4095 2 жыл бұрын
he isn't really DC tho, but nice callout since he is technically cannon
@datharo5
@datharo5 4 жыл бұрын
This Green Lantern looks like Janelle Monáe
@Mapdotnowhere
@Mapdotnowhere 4 жыл бұрын
The DC you knew will not be the one you know
@darkseid2157
@darkseid2157 4 жыл бұрын
Good
@lt2672
@lt2672 4 жыл бұрын
That's the point. Things change. Either they freshen up or get left behind. Comic fans always plead for change but once it comes lots of them hate on it.
@Invictus-Solaris
@Invictus-Solaris 4 жыл бұрын
@@lt2672 not all change is good change.
@toledochristianmatthew9919
@toledochristianmatthew9919 4 жыл бұрын
@@lt2672 the problem is dc or comic books in general don't change or commit to it at all or screw it up in the process. Like they are either ignoring or screwing all the legacy characters (Wally West for example) and even the new ones make another desperate attempt again. Heck they don't even commit to their own new characters and rely on the old ones to point of the stories becoming stagnant.
@grief6052
@grief6052 4 жыл бұрын
@@lt2672 this was an attempt at “freshening up” that completely fails solely because they were too scared to make a completely new IP that isn’t related to the old, already established and complete IP. They played it safe, and it failed miserably
@rydescho
@rydescho 4 жыл бұрын
I love the salty rant starting at 5:21!
@echevarriawilson
@echevarriawilson 3 жыл бұрын
I love your explanation on who is considered the "best" at what they do in comics. I agree completely with your logic and I'm one of those that end up rejecting a character when they pop up out of no where with no source material on abilities and suddenly are considered the best over legacy characters who have decades of stories with them pulling off the impossible
@TinoMexineoMtz
@TinoMexineoMtz 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds of when marvel introduced that new character that was smarter than reed richards (?) lol
@thechump2377
@thechump2377 3 жыл бұрын
W H A T
@jayskeleton3227
@jayskeleton3227 3 жыл бұрын
@@thechump2377 Amadeus Cho?
@candleman7457
@candleman7457 3 жыл бұрын
No
@superrknight1858
@superrknight1858 3 жыл бұрын
RiRi?
@andrewpenny4676
@andrewpenny4676 4 жыл бұрын
Yes he mention Batman beyond Terry mcginnis he will always be my batman of the future.
@sbyrstall
@sbyrstall 4 жыл бұрын
Batman of "Issue 1,000,000" comes to mind.
@andrewpenny4676
@andrewpenny4676 4 жыл бұрын
@@sbyrstall Personally after reading some of future state and the next batman it feels like a love letter to marvel 2099. With the magistrate being akin to marvel public eye.
@rnspurgn3015
@rnspurgn3015 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewpenny4676 not a love letter, more of a rip off
@NCMonefaith
@NCMonefaith 4 жыл бұрын
So the justice league is recognized around the world but Batman is illegal in his own city? Did the writers of Arrow write this issue?
@tofunmiosunsami1152
@tofunmiosunsami1152 4 жыл бұрын
Actually justice league takes place after the next batman.
@Shadowant25
@Shadowant25 4 жыл бұрын
So basically he possibly stops the magistrate? Or is the comic out already ?
@KingShibe
@KingShibe 4 жыл бұрын
These comics are set in different years.
@dickteh8457
@dickteh8457 4 жыл бұрын
That is just plain confusing. It is bad for readers, so basically now we know Batman did not die?
@berniet1215
@berniet1215 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly that’s why they should’ve released in chronological order
@Conk3r16
@Conk3r16 4 жыл бұрын
Show, Don't Tell is the golden rule of storyteling
@wkatc007
@wkatc007 3 жыл бұрын
"You even become a hero or live long enough to become a villain and have hankerin for some Choko Crunch cereal!"
@lukewiegand9001
@lukewiegand9001 4 жыл бұрын
Saying this new character is the best detective is like saying Rey is the most powerful force wielder.
@bigboi_chriis1495
@bigboi_chriis1495 4 жыл бұрын
They’re really tryna force these characters onto trying to hard to make us like them which is back firing
@Red-nz6li
@Red-nz6li 4 жыл бұрын
they just shove it down your throat without saying why they are the best you cant just spend 50+ years establishing and developing a character to their peak just to turn and around make someone with only a month of progress and say they’re better in my opinion they should have developed them more individually before making these claims and such.
@billbutton8468
@billbutton8468 3 жыл бұрын
@@Red-nz6li i think thats the point. They want us to wonder how tf theyre saying these things and the story will show a lot later on or something
@MortalScorp
@MortalScorp 4 жыл бұрын
They forgot to add SECOND, to her being the best detective. They're putting the truly first batman to shame.
@MacBamboocha
@MacBamboocha 4 жыл бұрын
Just him? You talk like Tim Drake, Chimp, both incarnations of the Question and Constantine aren't a thing! Arris was right in this review, there have been so many characters with literal decades of material to proof how good they are at what they are doing. You can't just create a new character and declare it to be the best at something just after a story when so much established history already exists, especially if that very history disproves the point. Show don't tell, than you earn the title! Not to mention that kinda implies that Bats 2.0 ain't as good in the detective role. If that's the case though, how the hell did he save Gotham exactly? And how does Batman Beyond fit in all of this?
@MortalScorp
@MortalScorp 4 жыл бұрын
@@MacBamboocha Yeah those are great too, but Batman is the one that shines the most, with being " Worlds greatest detective" But they're still awesome, question being my second favorite
@MacBamboocha
@MacBamboocha 4 жыл бұрын
@@MortalScorp I'm not saying Batman ain't the best, don't get me wrong please! :) My point is DC is filled to the brim with amazing detective stories and characters. What they did with this Green Lantern is a slap to the face to all of them, not just our beloved Brucy boy! She got *_A LOT_* to proof now, and if the writing is at the level of this new book, well... I doubt she ever will.
@MortalScorp
@MortalScorp 4 жыл бұрын
@@MacBamboocha really do agree. The detectives in DC are amazing.
@boxtupos7718
@boxtupos7718 4 жыл бұрын
@@MortalScorp Batman asks Detective Chimp for help from time to time. In terms of pure deductive skills, Chimp might be better than Bruce; Bruce just has the tech that allows him to gather information faster and better. Arguably, Detective Chimp is the greatest Detective in DC.
@LongLiveTheLionKing2
@LongLiveTheLionKing2 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone wanna tell me why Damian didn't take up the cowl? He did so in DCeased and already has established chemistry with Jon
@kappadarwin9476
@kappadarwin9476 4 жыл бұрын
Because that would be too predictable.
@redbullet8807
@redbullet8807 4 жыл бұрын
If you’ve been keeping up with what’s been going on in Batman comics lately, you’d know that Damian is not on the best terms with Bruce right now.
@chienvu8144
@chienvu8144 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t have problem with Tim Fox but why he can’t be a completely new batman on his own way. Why he has to act like Bruce?
@chienvu8144
@chienvu8144 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t have problem with Tim Fox but why he can’t be a completely new batman on his own way. Why he has to act like Bruce?
@kappadarwin9476
@kappadarwin9476 4 жыл бұрын
@@chienvu8144 Batman is a mantle, it can be passed down.
@matttan8066
@matttan8066 3 жыл бұрын
5:26 arris we both agree who is the most greatest detective in history, the dark knight himself batman
@rishabhadhikari6456
@rishabhadhikari6456 3 жыл бұрын
This probably happens when you are truly in a rush to do things and you forget about everything the other characters have experienced and you just blatantly stamp a "best in the multiverse" tag without second thoughts.
@glxonyt
@glxonyt 4 жыл бұрын
Who else thought it was gonna be the kid version of the justice league 😂😂
@bashirsanilawan5319
@bashirsanilawan5319 4 жыл бұрын
And its
@malefic1blitz602
@malefic1blitz602 4 жыл бұрын
I did
@korozom
@korozom 4 жыл бұрын
I wish DC was more creative like no batman, superman and wonderwoman, i mean they are the same ... why flash keep like flash, i hope they change characters like a grumpy flash or a grouchy flash, or leader flash ahaha it will be very interesting
@malefic1blitz602
@malefic1blitz602 4 жыл бұрын
@@korozom sometimes I wish I they’d push other teams into the spot light like titans, young justice or outsiders
@TheElementsAreWithMe
@TheElementsAreWithMe 4 жыл бұрын
My my that rant of yours was a nice change of pace, really made my day and bonus I agree with you.
@bluknight99
@bluknight99 4 жыл бұрын
The Janelle Monae GL being crowned the best detective in the Multiverse and the new Batman being hailed as Gotham's messiah for no discernable reason other than someone at DC "says so"? Ah...Rey Skywalker would approve. Edit: You can tell this really gets under Arris' skin because his hand gestures become more agitated.
@djstylegaming1398
@djstylegaming1398 4 жыл бұрын
Rey was never deemed the best Jedi or anything tho everything she does besides flying we know she learned from Leia or Luke. Anikan and Luke were also good at flying and obi wan even tho he hated flying. But she’s a girl so rant on
@shadowninja2338
@shadowninja2338 4 жыл бұрын
@@djstylegaming1398 pretty sure it has nothing to do because she’s a girl but because she’s a poorly written character
@KevinACarroll1996
@KevinACarroll1996 4 жыл бұрын
@@djstylegaming1398 It has nothing to do with her being a girl. We never get to see why she's good at what she's good at. The only things that would make sense based off of how she was introduced would be engineering for decades old ships, survival, and basic fighting. Her being somewhat on level with Kylo makes absolutely no sense and that's what people have an issue with.
@lt2672
@lt2672 4 жыл бұрын
This is 15 years after Tim dons the cowl so there's plenty of time to save the Gotham. I also don't have a problem with Jo being the best detective in the multiverse. The new generations tend to surpass the old ones.
@KevinACarroll1996
@KevinACarroll1996 4 жыл бұрын
@@lt2672 But this is (sort of) their first appearance and they use it to tell us that these characters are better than the previous characters, the characters that their target audience loves. Why would anyone think that putting down characters your target audience likes to prop up your new characters is a good idea?
@j_ortiz618
@j_ortiz618 4 жыл бұрын
Green Lantern is giving off Janelle Monae vibes.
@twinkle152000
@twinkle152000 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that! Lol
@Galebreth
@Galebreth 3 жыл бұрын
What a breath of fresh air. Arris has an actual critique!❤️
@kelian69
@kelian69 4 жыл бұрын
This JL looks like they could be defeated by a sexist joke.
@TheLaughingMan712
@TheLaughingMan712 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@hoodiek6802
@hoodiek6802 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣Damn
@haiqal5333
@haiqal5333 4 жыл бұрын
That is cold 😂
@juliansimpson1077
@juliansimpson1077 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@wyzasukitan
@wyzasukitan 4 жыл бұрын
The salty mini-rant was very cathartic. I needed that.
@deltaprime3509
@deltaprime3509 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I think Jon’s costume would look better if it had cape.
@osieliglesias3492
@osieliglesias3492 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree, this look makes him more...original?
@zxt5148
@zxt5148 4 жыл бұрын
@@osieliglesias3492 It makes you realize how bare Supermans design is without it.
@robertthreadgill5356
@robertthreadgill5356 4 жыл бұрын
He does wear a cape in Future State: Superman/Wonder Woman
@victorsardaneta8727
@victorsardaneta8727 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh, why does he realistically need a cape?
@johnlawful2272
@johnlawful2272 4 жыл бұрын
@@zxt5148 like most one piece outfit characters
@KungfuJoeProductions
@KungfuJoeProductions 4 жыл бұрын
They way he explained "who is the best detective" or "who fully saved Gotham"? Made me back this video up like wow!
@mrmsc919
@mrmsc919 3 жыл бұрын
I hit PAUSE II - And exactly how was that achieved? It's a slap in the face to the source material and fans.
@venkataadityavardhanpatnan2411
@venkataadityavardhanpatnan2411 4 жыл бұрын
5:15 to 7:33 is a great part Arris explains how superheroes we have grown fond of have become what they are today! Great explanation!
@vojislavS8652
@vojislavS8652 4 жыл бұрын
First time i ever saw Arris getting worked up about a superhero and the best part is that it's totally justified and relatable
@ShowheenGuy
@ShowheenGuy 4 жыл бұрын
He is actually wrong! They're saying it themselves. THE MULTIVERSE. Has Marvel and Dr. Strange taught you all nothing!
@FanaticPhyso
@FanaticPhyso 4 жыл бұрын
Arris you don't have to be sorry for the rant, I think most of us fans would agree with you about that point
@kevinbaboolal4225
@kevinbaboolal4225 4 жыл бұрын
DC: *gets woke and loses money* Fans: Stop ruining our beloved characters and stories DC: *does it again* Fans: How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?
@clankypick8178
@clankypick8178 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t call this being “woke”, just a bad example of telling instead of showing. But hey that’s just me, everyone’s entitled to their own opinions after all
@kappadarwin9476
@kappadarwin9476 4 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that they are starting something new.
@mansaurus_wrex
@mansaurus_wrex 4 жыл бұрын
the problem isn’t “getting woke” the problem is, always has been, and always will be cheap/lazy/uninspired storytelling
@erkziltonz
@erkziltonz 4 жыл бұрын
Shits just lazy, make new characters of different races and genders. Just swapping existing ones is a slap in the face to their fans.
@clutchcake7717
@clutchcake7717 4 жыл бұрын
@@mansaurus_wrex sure about? tokenism stikes again.
@VarjoPira
@VarjoPira 4 жыл бұрын
"Tell me, and I'll forget. Show me, and I might remember. Involve me, and I'll understand. "
@coachtali5151
@coachtali5151 3 жыл бұрын
The spirit of Jack Johnson smiles upon this future universe. They was mad he was better than everyone before him too...🤷🏿
@erelmatita3559
@erelmatita3559 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for being our voice Arris!
@soruyo210
@soruyo210 4 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the rant, valid points Also 10:20, hilarious
@seththesavage6018
@seththesavage6018 4 жыл бұрын
It is rare is see Arris critique a book this hard, and I can't help with every point he is bringing up. What is it with these writers making new characters that are suddenly supposed to be best in their field when there has been characters around for decades who have done the same work?
@redbullet8807
@redbullet8807 4 жыл бұрын
Because this comic takes place in the future where either the previous heroes are MIA or retired and these new guys are at a point where they’re at the peak of their careers.
@JavierHernandez-lo6cn
@JavierHernandez-lo6cn 4 жыл бұрын
Second person, Variant nation, where the likes at, this future justice league is a trip.
@Dogofwar9
@Dogofwar9 4 жыл бұрын
So why isn’t Daimen Wayne the new batman? And I agree with your rant wholeheartedly.
@timwall5895
@timwall5895 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah fr. It was even set up in Grant Morrison’s Batman #666
@animeview101
@animeview101 3 жыл бұрын
See this is why I love your stuff that Monologue about the new green lantern being the best detective just made me smile The soft spot though haha gold
@deathbygod5810
@deathbygod5810 4 жыл бұрын
When i get older, I'll tell my chidren that Bruce Wayne is the best detective and the best Batman of all times.
@mrmsc919
@mrmsc919 3 жыл бұрын
The only Batman. Amazon lets anyone buy a suit these days...
@FittedSheet2000
@FittedSheet2000 4 жыл бұрын
Comics are so damn confusing. If you need to tell people youre the king, you're not really the king
@agorillawithaplan9968
@agorillawithaplan9968 4 жыл бұрын
Ash williams would like to have a word
@musikamusika1736
@musikamusika1736 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you're king shark
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 4 жыл бұрын
The truly bad don't need to let people how good they are
@Nic123400
@Nic123400 4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that just a pompadour not exactly the only two people to have that haircut
@olguineb38
@olguineb38 2 жыл бұрын
You were right to rant. I agree with you. Also can you please do an origin/history video on the Hyper Clan?
@davidtop8989
@davidtop8989 4 жыл бұрын
Arris, thanks for pointing this out. The subject of your critique is justified. In fact, this would be a sore spot for any professional fiction writer or novelist, because it breaks the #1 universal rule of all good fiction writing: don't say it, show it! The fact that you mention it shows that somewhere in the back of your head, you have acquired an understanding some of the basic for what makes quality literature. Bravo!
@zazanjuice69
@zazanjuice69 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel definitely my top 3
@anthonymignogna4703
@anthonymignogna4703 4 жыл бұрын
I will never know why Damien didn’t become the new batman
@lorenzogonzales4239
@lorenzogonzales4239 4 жыл бұрын
I almost feel like they introduced and set damien up to take over the mantle, and then said “mmmm never mind”. now that’s my take based on being a part time reader, not a fully involved reader. so I may be wrong. but that’s my take after following damien wayne for a couple years.
@hinatashoyo1748
@hinatashoyo1748 4 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzogonzales4239 Damien Wayne has had a lot of backlash tbh. Everyone says that he’s annoying and pretty bad, so I guess that’s one reason why he didn’t take on the mantle.
@korozom
@korozom 4 жыл бұрын
@@hinatashoyo1748 I hope when they meet they fight xd
@insomaniac1796
@insomaniac1796 4 жыл бұрын
@@hinatashoyo1748 but they did gave damian pretty good character development,he seems to be a mash of Grayson and Jason
@haiqal5333
@haiqal5333 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think Bruce would want that, though introducing an unknown batman out of the blue seems stupid . Why not just make the new guy Damian's son/daughter? They could make a storyline where they meet with Bruce and has a heartfelt moment.
@SuperGamefreak18
@SuperGamefreak18 4 жыл бұрын
Hey bruce is the best detective in the omniverse not the universe also let's not forget that mr terrific and with some of the other big guns now operate multiversal now apparently
@thefacelessquestion3333
@thefacelessquestion3333 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the "rant" cause there's been some issues over the years that vexed alotta fans and Arris put em in "let's see how it pans out" category...thanks for saying how d fans feel.
@DonDotta44
@DonDotta44 3 жыл бұрын
All I need is for the new lantern to say is “are we green” 🤣
@cjxgraphics
@cjxgraphics 4 жыл бұрын
No character development, just straight up pandering.
@iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774
@iloathepeoplewhorestilltal2774 4 жыл бұрын
I mean cmon, it’s plain as day, it’s not even funny anymore
@bobf6721
@bobf6721 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a short miniseries for a two month event after which everything goes back to normal. There wouldn’t even be enough to to develop the characters.
@redbullet8807
@redbullet8807 4 жыл бұрын
You can’t develop characters in a two issue miniseries. Future State is literally two months long. This isn’t the new status quo, this isn’t the new normal, these guys aren’t going to be the new permanent justice league. It’s literally just small look at a possible future after which DC goes back to the pit normal continuity. But apparently most of the people here don’t actually read the comics, or even look up comic book news.
@Red-nz6li
@Red-nz6li 4 жыл бұрын
@@redbullet8807 tbh this is just an experiment to see how fans would react if they were to actually change
@korozom
@korozom 4 жыл бұрын
@@redbullet8807 the point is that it appears simultaneously, there is no character development, it just only repeats the failure of justice legaue movie
@siddharthabarmanmugdha8869
@siddharthabarmanmugdha8869 4 жыл бұрын
This comic in a nutshell, Making Bruce Wayne batman look bad
@Tunobe86
@Tunobe86 4 жыл бұрын
And we all know what's the real goal there...
@theotherguy21
@theotherguy21 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl I'd love for mcfarlane to make that flash
@yogseventy-nine3460
@yogseventy-nine3460 3 жыл бұрын
"if you are good at something you'll tell everybody, if you are great at it people will tell you" or something like that
@kcollier2192
@kcollier2192 4 жыл бұрын
Feels like Dark Avengers- and the rant was on point- a little humility from the new characters would go a long way (this of course, is strictly the fault of the writer/editors at DC)...
@SA-pg3hz
@SA-pg3hz 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the elongated man?
@souviksain3137
@souviksain3137 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about the rant....I am shocked to hear these...
@shmac96
@shmac96 4 жыл бұрын
Re youre issues with the new characters...I totally agree! Seems the ideology outside the world of comics is making its way to our beloved fantasy world. Thank you for another great video!
@urippe
@urippe 3 жыл бұрын
The rant he gave was something I didn't know I needed. It was nice to hear. I feel the same way but I usually shove it off since you know how it is
@quentinfogger5755
@quentinfogger5755 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do history of the Justice Society of America and the Seven Soldiers of Victory?
@levstepanov2892
@levstepanov2892 4 жыл бұрын
The Social Justice League
@iamnotawfulanymore3873
@iamnotawfulanymore3873 3 жыл бұрын
Your a terrible person for saying that.
@UN_bear_ABL3
@UN_bear_ABL3 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamnotawfulanymore3873 no u
@maximumoverdrive4241
@maximumoverdrive4241 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the old members
@neilongotham2915
@neilongotham2915 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode love the new style of storytelling for the next generation of comic book readers
@dr.darthbathulk8106
@dr.darthbathulk8106 4 жыл бұрын
Arris: "So your TELLING me!?!??!!?..." (💯Rant💯) well said my Brother! Couldn't say it better myself!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@The.Nasty.
@The.Nasty. 4 жыл бұрын
God the way writers give new characters unearned power and titles really irks me. Disney butchered Luke and Han to make Rey amazing at everything with little to no practice or context... Now these guys are throwing Batman under the bus to allow the new Green Lantern to be “the best” with little to no practice or context.
@bobf6721
@bobf6721 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, it’s a literal fast forward to the point where these characters have already become experienced crime fighters and successors to their namesakes as opposed to just starting out and then being called the best. It doesn’t really matter anyway since Future State is short two month event.
@korrde
@korrde 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobf6721 I can understand that, but don't expect fans to be receptive to that kind of storytelling. Miles Morales had to earn his webs, as a lot of fans hated on him hard for just being Spider-Man, nevermind being the best at anything. No fan likes it when their character is dragged in order to raise up what appear to be author pets. And that's what this new JL is made of. Author pets.
@rhaelfixer2584
@rhaelfixer2584 4 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention how in this Future State Batman just leave a crime scene to Green Lantern isn't the whole shenanigan with Batman is because he is a Detective period this Future State really kick us in the balls for those Batman fans out there
@kappadarwin9476
@kappadarwin9476 4 жыл бұрын
Because she knew what she was doing. Batman doesn't need to tell her what to do, he trusts her enough to get the job done.
@trex6052
@trex6052 4 жыл бұрын
@@kappadarwin9476 new green lantern bad
@SupremoJVT
@SupremoJVT 4 жыл бұрын
I love the salty part HAHAHAHA
@KingJayGriffin
@KingJayGriffin 4 жыл бұрын
The hairstyle of the Green Lantern was inspired by Janelle Monae lol and i appreciate the rant.
@jasoncunius532
@jasoncunius532 4 жыл бұрын
You are The G!! Way to stand up and educate seriously awesome
@adandeleon2733
@adandeleon2733 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but dc comics are just becoming stupid!🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️
@mitchellbirkhead9214
@mitchellbirkhead9214 3 жыл бұрын
Leftist ideology taking over, instead of just writing good stories and characters.
@billbutton8468
@billbutton8468 3 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellbirkhead9214 okay so you have no idea what "leftist" means you're just a weirdo whining that these characters are the wrong race and wrong gender. Says a lot about you. You cant say theyre not focused on good writing or good characters because you haven't read it worth shit
@TORRIE.
@TORRIE. 3 жыл бұрын
It's really dumb that they didn't make new characters and instead chose to reskin old ones And then people wanna defend it like it isn't just the old characters but with a different coat of paint I would've loved brand new characters Not just Justice League but with every race and gender
@billbutton8468
@billbutton8468 3 жыл бұрын
@@TORRIE. they are new characters. It's just the same LEGACY. And DC has ALWAYS been huge on legacy characters.
@TORRIE.
@TORRIE. 3 жыл бұрын
@@billbutton8468 Yea but I would have preferred them be new heroes not just reskins Like take the new batman Say he still took over after batman but didn't become another batman was a new hero that took over after batman that would've been so much cooler I get Jon Ken, the new GL(anyone can be a green lantern) and Aquawoman
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