Virgin Australia ATR-72 starts TAKEOFF ROLL ON WRONG RUNWAY!

[@VASAviation]

*Thanks to Late for his sim representation!* Kudos to that controller who caught the situation quickly. Runway 30 from intersection G might have been too short of a distance for a safe takeoff. Good job! By the way, pilots out there, don't forget to check heading on your heading indicator or compass before setting thrust =)

[@vanessaruiz4705]

there wasnt possible pilot deviation? :S thanks for the video!

[@muyaho420]

I bet they're not the only ones who made the same mistake, it could be really confusing.

[@spaert]

@@muyaho420 I was thinking the same thing - very preventable, but an easy mistake to make.

[@mattbartley2843]

@@muyaho420 Yes: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comair_Flight_5191

[@latettajalepo3317]

😘

[@C2K777]

ATC: Yeahhhhhhh actually we'll have you use taxiway November, that way we'll know you're on the right bloody runway bahahahaha

[@EG-0611]

:D I think this is how ATC punished flight crew. Enjoy extra taxiing

[@FolgoreCZ]

Exactly. Even if he didn't trust them with taking off from the intersection again (I woudn't either), they could have easily take off from Mike. It's basically an equivalent of sending misbeahving child to the corner. :-)

[@thebigitchy]

FolgoreCZ wasn’t there another plane going to take off after this one? Maybe he sent them further to november to give time for the second plane to take off

[@AUmarcus]

@@thebigitchy Exactly, he'd already lined up QF719 on the same runway full length so rather than making them wait he elected to send them first.

[@3scarybunnies211]

I was thinking that exact same thing. When I saw them originally entering at GOLF I immediately saw where the problem was. I just love how the ATC said "Stop! Stop!" and the pilot just casually turns off the runway and says sorry about that. ATC - "no problem" (because no one just died doofus).

[@bskull3232]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the captain speaking. We just took off from the wrong runway, and we are taking off from the correct one this time. There's nothing to worry about, really. I'm sober, trust me, I'm a professional.

[@bahardin3992]

Captain speaking : doesn't matter if we took off from a different runway at Canberra, as long as we'll land in the right one later.. Melbourne isn't it..?!!he he he. 😁😀🙄🙄

[@markieman64]

I was just thinking that I wonder how the captain explained that one to observant passengers...!

[@segredosdotiosam9989]

How can he take off twice?

[@markieman64]

@@segredosdotiosam9989 He didn't. Did you not know what was meant from the comment...?

[@SDK-im8sl]

OK he's responsible for the potentially fatal error, but the layout and procedures were an accident waiting to happen. Many airports that have a taxiway leading into a two-runway intersection have a firm ATC rule that they never clear anyone to take off from intersections like that, because those are a long- and well-known danger of wrong runway takeoff. It's an issue that has been the subject of much investigation, conclusion and regulation in many countries over many years. In particular, see the 2006 crash of a Comair CRJ100 at Lexington, Kentucky, USA. In the last 10-15 years, various airports have collectively spent tens of millions $$ changing layout to eliminate "asking for trouble" intersections like that.

[@aaronsakulich4889]

I really like the intended/actual representation to show how they got on the wrong runway! Excellent job!

[@Boss_Tanaka]

Aaron Sakulich At first I thought it was a real video caption, I need to replace my glasses

[@theboringchannel1776]

Well he did get cleared for 35 and its pretty obvious which one is 35 without representation of the intended runway.

[@gabridish]

what software is that??

[@c41pt41n]

US controller: COPY THIS NUMBER POSSIBLE PILOT DEVIATION!!! Aussie controller: yeah m8ey all good no probs, let's try it one more time lol

[@Ozgrade3]

I can assure you, this is a reportable incident, actions not in compliance with a clearance. CASA and ATSB will be involved.

[@AUmarcus]

And the aussies are still safer.

[@wtfmimshag]

Lol pen and paper? How quaint

[@Ozgrade3]

@@AUmarcus I love reading the comments from people who have absolutely no knowledge of aviation crapping on endlessly with dribble. The tower controller is required to file an incident report which would have been sent to the CASA YCBR district office almost immediately as it's a violation of a clearance in a primary control zone. The crew definitely would have had to file an incident report with their own airline management and this report will work it's way up through the Safety Manager, fleet manager, standards group and eventually the Chief Pilot. Tea and bikkies in the Chief Pilots office would be considered obligatory. I will put a link to the evetual ATSB report for all you know it alls.

[@AUmarcus]

@@Ozgrade3 I hope you're not suggesting I'm one of them? My comment was made tongue in cheek but the essence is still true. Anybody who thinks there would not be serious questions asked after an incident like this is an idiot. Instead of posting that link....how about learning how to recognise sarcasm as a matter of urgency? Cheers.

[@Rhaman68]

Point: that intersection is ripe for confusion!!! Should not ever be used for takeoff. And pilots should brief the potential for confusion and be extra super cautious and check aircraft heading instruments!! That procedure should be done for all runways: verify aircraft heading with assigned runway numbers. Ret Capt

[@Lemon0Tart]

It is listed as a runway incursion hot spot.

[@francikaa1]

All aircraft should use the 'Holding points' to prevent confusion at intersections. History almost repeated itself: 1990 Wayne County Airport runway collision

[@tabaks]

There's more than one failure here. But, pilot's was the most acute.

[@bahenbihen]

Definitely, I might not check the heading every time I line up, but in such cases I triple-check

[@neilwendylauren]

Pre take off briefing

[@jdonovan74]

I know reactions are going to be mixed with the sim footage, but I'm going to be honest, it was so good that on the first clip I audibly said "Oh they got real footage!" So very well done. If the person who worked on this one can do others I say keep it up!

[@VASAviation]

I'm sure Late will be happy reading this

[@latettajalepo3317]

thanks mate ;)

[@ZsomborZsombibi]

Yep, so realistic. The only clue was the credit, bottom left. Awesome work!

[@georgeprout42]

I too was fooled at first, great work guys 🍻

[@karend1577]

I thought it was real footage. I got all excited. Then saw it was a sim. Forgot it was a sim because it looked so real. Basically, both times I re-watched this video, I kept thinking it was real.

[@ejpeiker]

Really surprised that the controller actually said "no problem" when the pilot apologized...

[@iraqiboy90]

must be have Canadian roots

[@geoh7777]

Controllers make mistakes, too. Actually, it is fortunate for the flying public that anyone would want to take that job. Also, airplane pilot is a high-risk vocation, up there with high-tension lineman, logger, commercial fisherman. Much higher than policeman (half of whose deaths and injuries come from ordinary traffic accidents of the type all vehicle operators are exposed to). So, we're lucky to have pilots, too.

[@C2K777]

I thought he was pretty relaxed about it as well. I mean it's kind of refreshing in a way and if there was no potential major issue like traffic collision, runway too short for the aircraft etc then whilst it's not something to repeat then it's probably the best way to deal with it.

[@suestoons]

By the time the pilot apologizes the excitement and adrenaline surge are well over and everyone is getting on with their day. The 'no problem' indicates we're all glad the mistake was caught in a timely manner, everyone reacted accordingly and we still have the rest of our shift/flight to finish, including now, the extra paperwork.

[@cymbala6208]

@@suestoons that's a good and satisfying explanation 😊

[@heyitsvos]

Holy shit didn’t realize this was sim

[@wolfsrule100]

HeyItsVos it took me a minute as well!

[@johnnyboythepilot4098]

Same! I thought it was real footage a plane spotter caught of the aircraft & incident. It wasn't until it abruptly stopped turning on the runway did I realize it was actually in a flight sim. Impressive!

[@LensEye8]

It's the best!

[@Greatlakeskyle.]

wolfsrule100 feels like gta a bit

[@retepaskab]

1:35 "you lined up on the little runway" - come on, that's for the kids.

[@bahenbihen]

Joking aside, the comments don't seem to realize how big of a mistake this was. If they used reduced thrust (which they did) and continued the roll, there could've been a big possibility that they would've ended up off the end of the runway, especially with an intersection departure. However, I am no expert, I wasn't there and I didn't look at the airport charts, but it's a fact that mistakes like these kill people. Good job ATC

[@aeternusdoleo4531]

Good catch by an alert tower. I suppose they know to be extra alert when authoring a takeoff from the runway intersection - sounded like they've had this mixup before.

[@forgottenfamily]

With that intersection? Yeah, they probably have...

[@rubenvillanueva8635]

Aeternus Doleo Would have been nice, if the controller had watched the aircraft setting up for Rwy 35! and confirmed Rwy 35 for the line up.

[@forgottenfamily]

@@rubenvillanueva8635 Sounded like he looked at the aircraft lining up, then looked over at the aircraft at N short 35 to give them lineup instructions then looked back and caught the mistake.

[@rubenvillanueva8635]

forgottenfamily ...Intersection departures are interesting and useful, to expedite traffic flow. But, you have to keep your eyeballs peeled to catch the infrequent mistakes. That intersection, can be confusing, but with more due vigilance, the incident could have ben prevented.

[@MattTrevett]

@@rubenvillanueva8635 Yeah this one looked avoidable to me, on both ends. I'd definitely be paying triple attention when taking off at intersections after an incident like that.

[@pupslace]

I like how he was given a full-length departure after the failure to execute an intersection take off...

[@saymichaelwibowo4045]

Punishment for the flight crews 🤣

[@garrettodonnell4177]

I was thinking just that - especially the way it came through as a correction. "Actually...." :D

[@StrokeMahEgo]

Well, if you failed at the intersection, it's probably good of ATC to make you SEE the numbers on the pavement.

[@N1120A]

1) Probably a chance to cool the brakes. 2) That G intersection is kind of a hot spot, so it makes sense to use a different one

[@rf5046]

ATR'S almost always leave from November in YSCB. Bit surprised he gave GOLF. Great capture by ATC.

[@karlso7314]

Well done to ATC. Seeing this makes me feel safer flying in Australia. Humans make errors but good teamwork ensures no one gets hurt.

[@bjrnerikmoen6529]

That isn't the real footage, is it? Flight Sims are getting so realistic graphics now that it's kinda hard to distinguish...

[@timmyblackboy62]

It was a simulator. But I’m not gonna lie I was looking at it too like “wow this looks very real”! The movements gave it away though.

[@VASAviation]

Flight sim

[@jjk2639]

@@mikaelhg It looks real, but even if the plane behaved perfectly realistic you can still tell real from fake if you pay attention.. For now anyways. ;)

[@geoh7777]

Next comes some government officials want you in prison and have video of you walking into a bank with a handgun and holding up the place. Meanwhile, a judge places a gag order on all employees of the bank. It is not difficult at all to find examples of evidence being fabricated by authorities: www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/us/baltimore-officer-video-drugs.html

[@charbladex]

Just wait until Flight Simulator 2020 comes out. Those graphics are *insane*

[@airizsyah3439]

Possible pilot deviation. Pilot: Australia mate, Australia.

[@automandan3066]

No worries mate

[@KevsterWilson]

Wow good reaction from ATC. Love how the communication was all done calmly though & given instructions how to get to the right runway.

[@brentsummers7377]

Yes, excellent job by ATC, calm and professional.

[@andrewstorm8240]

I like the actual / intended route pic

[@VASAviation]

That was a nice touch I must admit haha

[@JoulSauron]

Thanks so much for putting the video description on the description!!! I hope you continue doing this in all your videos! Thanks!

[@CuriousMaker609]

Could this error have been caused by a combination of the taxiway being at an intersection and a mid-runway take-off? Doesn't it make sense to taxi further down to avoid confusion?

[@iatsd]

Hindsight is wonderful, isn't it?

[@jaguar3248]

I live in Canberra and use the airport a lot. That intersection is clearly marked as the ATR's use it a lot. Don't know why he would line up on the Rwy he did which is to short for that type. Bit of a weird one to call.

[@kylebennett9184]

Jaguar disoriented at night most likely. The ATRs don’t often use taxiway G for departure, they’re more likely to use P

[@aj3751]

Maybe the controller had him depart at the intersection because he was a smaller aircraft? The next aircraft in line was a Qantas so it's probably larger than that ATR. Sometimes they do that for wake turbulence separation.

[@kylebennett9184]

Anthony George nobody ever wants an ATR in front of a jet... they would’ve requested intersection G and the controller will taxy them there. In this case, the ATR was quick enough to get airborne and not delay the 737 behind. Otherwise the order would be flipped. Wake turb doesn’t exist between these aircraft either

[@autumnlover5784]

Beautiful scenery and take off! I liked how quickly atc AND the pilot caught it and adjusted ( how many times dies atc have to keep calling out ... this pilot was like screech .... oh gotcha turn 😎 No idea how I got into watching and listening to these ( way before Kobe flight ) but I am addicted!

[@autumnlover5784]

And weather that was a sim rep. or live its still beautifully done!

[@juliusreiner5733]

Aren’t pilots supposed to verify runway heading with compass before starting takeoff roll?

[@VASAviation]

We are. Some don't do it in rush unfortunately. Also there are modern systems which tell us what runway we are on or approaching to.

[@sb859]

@@VASAviation Habit Pattern. Habit Pattern. Habit Pattern.

[@OOTurok]

Yes

[@VASAviation]

Exactly. Check for numbers painted on the surface + check compass/gyro. That's my always habit

[@fevengr9245]

@@VASAviation The system is Runway Awareness and Advisory System (RAAS). It is implemented as an enhancement to the Terrain Awareness and Warning System (TAWS). That sim was so real! When I saw distant airport lights appear to be correctly dimmed and distorted through the cockpit windows of the ATR, I was convinced.

[@blancolirio]

Wow, good catch! Victor- did you start with the actual video from Late, then put the VAS video together? Great job. looks great too. Remember Comair #5191, Lexington Ky. 2006? Verify heading after lining up before takeoff! Juan.

[@VASAviation]

Late is one of my simmers so he filmed the sim for me and for this video. Comair was first memory when I first listened to the tape.

[@skyvenrazgriz8226]

Go to November, just to make sure you get it right this time ;) Controller is chill as f.

[@georgeprout42]

And the trainee pilot won't do that again? He had to go to the naughty step for a bit? He will always remember it? Nice one ATC? Question marks are only to make you read this in an Aussie accent...

[@MikeyCh09]

No problem in Australian is an acknowledgment that “something “ has occurred. It’s a phrase we use even if that something was a major incident without diminishing what that incident was. Just something to clarify for the non Aussies on the channel.

[@CallM3YourCat]

That huge relief when you didn't hear "be ready to copy a phone number"

[@andydecker7373]

Yes sir. Harrison Ford wasn't that lucky when he landed his Husky on Taxiway Charlie at the John Wayne Airport.

[@ArsenicApplejuice]

Konrad Wysocki reporting systems in Australia are different. No need to give out a phone number like it’s 1989.

[@CallM3YourCat]

@@ArsenicApplejuice good to know, thx

[@Trek001]

USA: NTSB and Airline investigation AUS: "669, buy me a few when you get back and we'll call it quits"

[@comment2009]

No accident, so would be FAA investigation in US. However if NTSB involved, probable recommendations: ATC good work; Pilot reeducation on airport markings; Airport REEVALUATE where planes take off. Give that ATC a Swan (when off-duty).

[@Tywais]

Nice of the controller to send him all the way to the end of 35 so he doesn't make that mistake again. lol

[@agetori7743]

Should have the first time?

[@_chipchip]

agetori77 not really. He was given a heading and didn’t check it.

[@rubenvillanueva8635]

agetori77 ...Why? explain your thoughts.

[@agetori7743]

@@rubenvillanueva8635 sending him down bravo to November in the first place would make it very unlikely to be on the wrong runway?

[@yuukuriuddoherusaizu7197]

@@agetori7743 if they are professional then going to the end of the runway is a waste of time

[@toxic1venom]

It's simple mistakes that cause huge problems. Thanks for sharing. Keeps everyone sharp.

[@charlieinsingapore]

Runway 35 is 3283m (10771ft) and 45m wide (147ft) plus blast shoulders to take it to 60m (197ft). Runway 30 is 1670m (5479ft) and 45m wide. From where the aircraft began its takeoff roll to the grass at the end of 30 is exactly 1000m (3280ft).

[@q.2808]

Hey, I just want to say thank you, your videos are awsome, i watch them every day. Stay like this👍👍

[@blee3264]

I"m just trying to imagine what all the yelling and cursing would have sounded like if this occurred at ATL or JFK.

[@afcgeo882]

B Lee Both are FAR busier than Canberra.

[@christiannnnnnnnnn]

Americans are always a bit overreacting.

[@gummy4160]

Christian well it would be a much bigger problem if this were to happen at ATL or JFK

[@christiannnnnnnnnn]

@@gummy4160 it's the way how they always deal with it. It's like the controllers like to be in the position and are a bit happy that they can act like that. And in general there is no difference between JFK or somewhere where is not so much traffic. There's the same danger and it would be the same damage that can happen in worst case. Sure they could talk about the incidents, but as I mentioned before, it looks like the Americans are just waiting for such things. PS. It's not more extreme just because it happened somewhere in great America ;)

[@gummy4160]

Christian I referred to katl and kjfk due to the amount of traffic and how busy they are compared to yscb

[@bobsemp]

Gotta say, I had the same problem with an intersection takeoff at HPN years ago. Confused 29 and 34 ... My bad! Really need to be VERY CAREFUL when given an intersection departure!

[@afcgeo882]

bob semp They should stop allowing departures from intersections in Westchester. Even in a Cessna 172, I’ve always requested the full runway.

[@rubenvillanueva8635]

George L ....You can always refuse an intersection departure. If you are not comfortable, use the full rwy. No, big problem fir ATC.

[@afcgeo882]

Ruben Villanueva That’s not the point and you know it. ATC controls the airport, not the pilot. Yes, you can refuse it... and you can wait an hour for other vectors. The fact is, no airport should be guiding anyone to that. It’s unsafe.

[@ThePorkypete51]

2:00 ATC sends him down to NOVEMBER to make sure there's no mistake 2nd time around ;-)

[@rubenvillanueva8635]

Peter Spencer ...The "taxi" of shame!

[@0611131civil]

Plus not clearing for takeoff until they lineup

[@walover165]

Hey, it's my city's airport! They do intersection departures all the time for ATRs and Dash-8s. Never usually a problem. Good thing the controller caught it though because I can tell you right now - 30 a really, really short runway that usually only the little craft (like Cessnas etc) use. The north-east end points straight at a very large bridge/highway overpass. If this guy had actually got to rotate, that could have been very ugly.

[@ashmaterial]

No where in world Australia pilot: We seem to made a mistake and we are going crash. Sorry about that Australia air traffic: no worries mate. It happens

[@짱구mori]

The atc is making sure the pilot doesnt fuck it up the second time by sending him to November lol

[@VictoryRune]

Australia has the calmest people ever

[@rayg9069]

We learned long ago there's little point in yelling and ranting, doesn't fix the situation any faster. If someone screws up, tell them mate, you screwed up, here's what we are going to do to fix it.

[@toniblackmore3016]

Proud to be an Aussie! “Sorry about that”. “No problem”

[@nzcyclone]

@VASAviation thank you for going back to the old way of introducing the videos. I personally like the older way much better. Thank you for another great video :)

[@MaxPower888]

Great video once again! The actual vs intended is really useful, and a good visual representation. Also, that recent citation crash seems interesting - something odd happened there.

[@bennyhill5938]

thats amazing that somebody happened to be filming the whole thing!

[@VASAviation]

Are you sure?

[@IroAppe]

VASAviation - Was this in X-Plane?

[@airbornepotato]

the simulation was super realistic, That's why Elon warned us in the future we might have trouble to tell the video game and reality

[@latettajalepo3317]

@@IroAppe Nope Prepar3D V4.5

[@databang]

I first thought you had actual footage, Cool! Thanks for sharing!

[@wr1830]

Glad the controller caught it. In 2006, that happened here in the US at Lexington Bluegrass Airport (KLEX) where an aircraft (CRJ 100) lined up on the wrong, shorter runway with only 1 survivor.

[@Wabs11]

To think this made it onto National news really astounds me, the intersection at YSCB is gnarly, as a student pilot flying out of there, it’s always an area to keep a watchful eye out. Can never be to careful. Good job the blokes in the tower and also the pilot for listening to the instructions given to him

[@afcgeo882]

Using taxiway G for this was just asking for it. No clear markings for which runway is which. That’s why you take off from the beginning of the runway, not the middle.

[@buckstarchaser2376]

What simulator was used in this video? Had me wondering if it was actual footage for a moment.

[@Vpmatt]

Love all the comments about how lax it must be in Australia. Mistakes happen and there are backups in case they do, which worked in this case. Go and have a look at Australia's aviation safety record. And now go and have a look at your own country's. Enough said.

[@rayg9069]

There's a huge difference between lax and professional fluidity. The controller saw the error immediately halted it and provided clear instructions to the slightly confused pilot without adding more stress to the cockpit. Would the controller have achieved a better result by yelling and screaming at the pilot, nope, just increases the risk of further errors. Sounds as if the controller has to deal with low experience GA pilots and trainees as well.

[@AUmarcus]

Exactly....we must be doing something right.

[@OOTurok]

Ahhh... nothing like intersecting runways. Good times... goooood times.

[@Cissy2cute]

How very polite the controller was. Nice guy!

[@andycopland3179]

I'd be curious to know if you could get the audio from Rockmart/Cedartown GA from when a King Air lost his left landing gear. I was a professional skydiver and watched that day as the left engine ate runway and the AC parallel parked on the side next to a hill with a pond at the bottom 😂

[@HallowedWeasel]

Was sending him down to November the taxi of shame? Not just Mike, but all the way down so he has to see the "35"?

[@sldfnslkxxlk]

Sounded like there was an aircraft departing so they just sent them to the end instead of having them wait at the intersection for it to depart (or having the departing aircraft wait for the ATR).

[@Guust_Flater]

@0:26 Lesson learned....don't use taxi lane Golf to go to the runway, bc you end up on a crossing and mistakes are possible. Just like the second time, use T-crossings (after taxi lane November) and you always end up at the right runway.

[@nzalistair]

FYI with the subtitles it's "Assigned heading" not "Turn heading"

[@bahardin3992]

there was an incident at the old HK airport I think, an SIA B747, taxing in foul weather, rain with storm approaching that eventually line up and took off from a wrong runway, one parallel to the correct one. This runway supposed to be closed, with construction vehicles at the end of it. There was sadly a few casualty. Pilot found to be at fault, never flew with the airline again but the Airport got away scott free. sad really...

[@kd_ramdhanysatrianugraha3658]

it was at Taipei (TPE) btw

[@rubenvillanueva8635]

Bahar Din ...Yes, said incident. Could have been prevented, had the pilot, lacking the visibility to see his taxi route, should have requested a "follow me" vehicle to guide him out to the active runway.

[@rewolff2]

I like the way the ATC guy makes sure that they don't make the same mistake again. "This time go to November"....

[@theharper1]

Not only was he on the wrong runway, he was half way along it. They would have struggled to get airborne before the end of the runway. Looks like it was dark, but even so, that's not good. Both aircrew apparently failed to recognise the error. The cross strip is long enough for ATR and Dash-8 provided that they start at the end of it. The Virgin terminal is at the northern end of the terminal complex. I'm actually surprised that they allow aircraft to take off on runway 35 from the cross strip. The Dash-8 aircraft take off from further south but they also start from the Qantas terminal at the southern end of the terminal complex.

[@CarstenBauer]

VH-VPJ is an ATR72-600, not a 72-212A, although the -600 is based on the -212A design.

[@flutetubamorg]

Taxiway G should be gotten rid of. Pilot should check runway heading, but it's too easy to screw that up right there. A robust system dictates it should be more difficult to do what the pilot did.

[@theharper1]

I think taxiway G is mostly used by aircraft landing on 35. There's enough runway south of the cross strip for an ATR or Dash-8 (or smaller aircraft) to exit at G. It saves a lot of fuel.

[@nitramluap]

No excuse for at ATPL holder. It's very easy - check the heading before takeofff roll with intended runway. Even student pilots know to do this.

[@loonylovesgood]

I like how you include the actual video footage! Well done!

[@VASAviation]

It's a sim

[@Jamaaays]

@@VASAviation Which one?

[@loonylovesgood]

Jesus, it looks so real...

[@TM-xg4wm]

Captain : runaway identified ! FO : Confirmed !

[@alexanderohman1707]

FO: Confirmed, it's a runway!

[@Boodieman72]

In American, ATC "I've got a number for you to copy", in Australia "No worries mate" :-)

[@АюбШамшиев]

Could you explain what's the number? And for what it uses?

[@relaxingnaturevideos1203]

@@АюбШамшиев incident number i suppose, for reported pilot deviation

[@willlopes8500]

@@relaxingnaturevideos1203 Phone number for the pilot to call, instead of discussing the incident on frequency.

[@relaxingnaturevideos1203]

@@willlopes8500 ok ty for clearing up

[@rogerscottcathey]

One playback of this showed text balloons in yellow pop up on screen, but when using rewind they didnt appear again. Watched it twice now. Must have hallucinated them. Weird.

[@zeymon1292]

Before entering an active runway *always* -Approach sector clear - Runway identified - Runway heading checked Keeps you from making embarrassing and potentially lethal mistakes.

[@BlunderDownUnder]

I could be wrong, but I have always assumed that 30 is only for GA - I've never seen an airline use anything but 35.

[@afcgeo882]

Daniel Ede Runways are categorized by length/width, not use.

[@MM-wf2yt]

DH8C and Pelican Jetstream 32s regularly land 30.

[@nonirosie]

Do you have the recording of the flight that had a mechanical issue over Melbourne, Australia and had to circle and dump fuel a few days ago? It made the news here.

[@drpeterkov]

At 1:21 why is Air Force One on the tarmac at YSCB?

[@theharper1]

Someone added an Easter egg ? It has landed here. :D

[@chroniclesofashlee951]

Can you please find the audio for the Etihad flight that landed at Heathrow yesterday (17/02/2020) during a storm? He came in sideways!

[@peterallen4605]

Love how ATC sent him all the way down to the numbers the second time just to make he didn't screw it up again.

[@theharper1]

I think that may have been to give the Qantas 737 plenty of room.

[@Mike25654]

That intersection departure is an accident waiting to happen...

[@rubenvillanueva8635]

Michael ....No. If the pilot and controller are heads up and professional, intersection departures are are a piece of cake!

[@Mike25654]

@@rubenvillanueva8635 Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. In aviation we say that any mistake that can be made will also be made by someone sometime. You cant always be heads up and professional for 10.000 hours. There are gonna be bad days, and those are the ones when stuff like this happens.

[@walover165]

They do intersection departures all the time at Canberra with ATRs and Dash-8s. Never (usually) a problem. I'm guessing the pilot didn't do the Canberra shuttle run often.

[@AxCYeR]

Someone didn't check the compass after lining up...

[@mattbartley2843]

In this context, does "line up" mean the same thing as "taxi into position and hold"?

[@RogParish]

"Position and hold" has been deprecated (since September 30, 2010) in favor of "line up and wait", which is the international phraseology.

[@tabaks]

VA hack pilots! LOL and kudos to controller for changing his mind and having them go all the way to the Twy N ("they can't possibly screw up this one")!

[@TheFreaker86]

and there will be always a pilot who says "Hold my beer!" ;-)

[@iraqiboy90]

That what I was thinking when he said "actually.... go to november" :D

[@tim3609]

love how ATC made them taxi to November just to make sure they don´t turn too far again

[@morbau11]

Imagine explaining that to your passengers

[@efari]

i don't get the call "turn right 020" at 2:37. what's that about??? they're at holding Point November, entering the runway. or already on the runway and holding. how would a right turn could come into this? or is this call for After take-off?

[@sebastianguevara8091]

freakaefari it’s indeed for after take off

[@theMoerster]

It seems an odd way to call it out but I'm pretty sure he's ordering a right turn to 020 after take off. That should probably be made more clearly but I guess they assume nobody would mistake it for a ground direction. Though this crew did just line up on the wrong runway so extra caution might be advised.

[@Lemon0Tart]

It's for after take-off, right turn heading 020.

[@efari]

@@theMoerster exactly my thought

[@davidmichael5573]

When you takeoff they give a direction of flight they want you to go. Most is runway heading but in this case get clear of the obstacles and turn immediately to heading.

[@fingerhorn4]

Apart from the main report, why is any aircraft lining up halfway down any runway? Of course people claim it doesn't matter if the aircraft type can easily get off in a short length, but it is always good practice to give yourself as much length as possible.

[@AUmarcus]

Small aircraft that does not require full length to take off.

[@rubenvillanueva8635]

fingerhorn4 ...Really?

[@theharper1]

It saves fuel.

[@tazznelson]

I just got turned on to your channel. Was just wondering if you did a video on a plane (single engine failure) that had to land on I-10 near Biloxi Mississippi? (Around May 2016). Got to witness it but would like the hear the conversation between the pilot and local ATC. Thanks and look forward to further videos!

[@oliverracz2686]

That's a horrible intersection to start a takeoff roll from. I'm surprised they allow that.

[@aviationgeek604]

I’ve done that on VatSim it is pretty embarrassing when other pilots criticize you for taking the wrong runway

[@apolloactual7666]

Easy mistake to make with 5 degrees separation between the two runways and the intersection they used. Good awareness by the controller. Great video!

[@gazratjackson]

Love ya work mate, that was kinda satisfying 🛬

[@superlogistics1]

Credits to the ATC. Cool as a cucumber

[@TheFreaker86]

what Flightsim is used for the visualisation? This looks damn good!

[@latettajalepo3317]

Prepar3D V4.5

[@latettajalepo3317]

And thanks😊

[@Ibigoo]

no heading check before the takeoff run? whats in the SOP?

[@DLB19901107]

Nice dramatization...almost thought this was the real footage. ATR addon tho? P3D?

[@latettajalepo3317]

Yes sir carenado ATR72

[@DLB19901107]

@@latettajalepo3317 Noice!

[@timefilm]

I honestly thought the cg was real. And I work in cg.

[@rrknl5187]

Looking at a map of the airport, it's easy to tell which runway is which. Sitting in a cockpit at an intersection, it's a lot harder than you'd think. Really easy to make a mistake, especially at night. Certainly, they should have looked at the DG (Directional Gyro) to see if they were on the correct runway but I'd put a fair share of the blame on the basic design of the airport.

[@rubenvillanueva8635]

RR KNL .....Wrong, assumption.

[@rrknl5187]

@@rubenvillanueva8635 Please explain a bit more, if you don't mind. I'd like to hear from an actual ATC.

[@FencerPTS]

Before I soloed my CFI made sure I watched the NTSB video about an accident involving a commercial flight that did this very thing and crashed. The lesson was clear - check that the DG and compass matches the runway heading.

[@cymbala6208]

... I'm not sure if I'd call that a 'no problem' situation... just imagine if some vehicle had tried to cross RW 30 at the same time... 😕 On the other hand - there will be for sure enough paperwork on that incident and making a fuss about it on frequency does not help in that situation either. Btw, short question: Due to the fact that they aborted the takeoff, when is it necessary to do a brake check afterwards?

[@automandan3066]

This was at Canberra also

[@T_210]

"Give the tower a call upon arrival, ready to copy the number"? Can't imagine what the passengers were thinking- or what they were told- after the false start... Good video, good lesson.

[@msnpassjan2004]

Comair Flight 5191 was not so fortunate. The controller was working solo and had to get his paperwork done before the end of his shift no matter how much traffic he had. So he had his back to the airport during the crucial minute the airplane took off.

[@willwarden1631]

I tell you the problem people looking at their electronica flight map for taxing directions instead of sticking their head up And looking at their conditions around them including the Compass heading versus runway heading before they apply full power

[@rubenvillanueva8635]

Interesting to know, Why the controller, not realise that the aircraft was not set up on Rwy 35?

[@rayg9069]

Two runways with similar headings cross at that exact point.

[@rubenvillanueva8635]

Ray G ...Please, use some thought process, before replying!

[@rayg9069]

@@rubenvillanueva8635 Perhaps it is you that needs to examine where this taxiway enters the runways?

[@wouldntyouliketoknow9891]

Australia Tower - "No worries mate, have another go at it". USA Tower "Possible pilot deviation - stand by to copy a number"

[@SimplyTakuma]

Where we must go to the takeoff? *NOVEMBER*

[@crisprtalk6963]

How can anyone hear anything with all that static?

[@Feuergraf]

Damn this pilot must be very blind to not see he's lined up with the wrong runway

[@Earth4Mars]

line up checks .... Compass, heading indicator, if full length, runway markings. so easy to miss the runway.