NO! This Was NOT a Depeche Mode Song!

In 1999 , the UK Band 'Mesh' released a single entitled "Not Prepared". Surprisingly, some Depeche Mode Fans mistook it for a Depeche Mode, Martin gore release. No this is not a Depeche Mode song.
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[@VaughnGeorge]

In 1999 , the UK Band 'Mesh' released a single entitled "Not Prepared". Surprisingly, some Depeche Mode Fans mistook it for a Depeche Mode, Martin gore release. No this is not a Depeche Mode song.

[@mhoroky]

Ah yes, but there is one song that is unmistakably Depeche Mode... let's just say it's a remix that goes "Do do do dooo, do do do doooo, do do do doooo, do do do dooooo". 😆

[@SyntheticFilms]

There were a couple of bands in the late 80s and early 90s that had songs that were initially mistaken as DM releases: Camouflage, Cause & Effect, and Red Flag. 🖤🎹

[@Harry-Giles]

Agree. Love all three as well.

[@joseitsme]

Cetu Javu as well.

[@NativeNewYorker66]

Camouflage- The Great Commandment definitely sounded like Depeche Mode. It’s a great song.

[@Kppot]

Camouflage for V&I (the Great Commandment and especially Stranger thoughts) yes probably, though they never used sampling tech, pure FM synth, Still it sounds somewhat like Some Great Reward/Music for the Masses DM but you have to be really deaf for taking Cause & Effect, and Red Flag for DM really-that was dance musing >120 bpm with direct and linear drum, no actual layers

[@EdgarsB]

The Mobile Homes album "Nothing But Something" (1991) was so close to M.L.Gore's "Counterfeit e.p". I thought it is new Martin's solo album 😂

[@u2bst1nks]

For a second I thought you were going to talk about Color Theory's "Ponytail Girl." I remember it floating around Napster as a DM song with Martin Gore vocals. I loved all those 90s DM inspired synthpop groups, but none of them really vocally sounded like Martin or Dave.

[@VaughnGeorge]

I am not familiar with that one but will check out out! VG :-)

[@gloraditch6915]

It sounds like that song from Color Theory actually may have used a vocal hamonizer with just one person singing ?

[@xtremediecastracing8468]

Ponytail Girl is a great song from Color Theory that blew up Napster with everyone thinking it was a DM song. It's a very good song along with many others from Color Theory.

[@u2bst1nks]

@@gloraditch6915 Color Theory is one guy. I'm not sure if he used a vocal harmonizer or if he just recorded multiple vocals and layered them.

[@SteveHarris-pw1ky]

Someone gave me a copy of "Ponytail Girl" along with the "Exciter megamix" which also sounded like another Martin Gore demo. I thought to this day that were Gore demos!

[@Webanaka]

There was a Color Theory track called Ponytail Girl that was mistaken for a Martin Gore demo. That inspired him to make a DM covers album, which I really like. Some great versions of DM tracks on there.

[@xtremediecastracing8468]

Ponytail Girl is a great song from Color Theory that blew up Napster with everyone thinking it was a DM song. It's a very good song along with many others from Color Theory. Many thought it was a leaked song from a soon to be released DM album.

[@joseitsme]

That's how it was back in those years with peer to peer file sharing downloads with limewire. There were songs that said that the artist was "Depeche Mode." Prime example, "What do you do," by Analog Angel. That's a great song, btw. It sounds like early to mid Depeche Mode era.

[@pewburrito]

I think I remember people labeling "Send Me an Angel" as DM on Napster

[@ModeMan101]

Add Color Theory's "Ponytail Girl" to that list, which was shared on Napster as a Martin Gore demo.

[@zejarra]

Hahaha . I was gonna post the same . Great to see someone who lived through those fun days on the high seas of “ digital piracy”!!

[@handswithenergy]

Mesh started five or more years before you suggest. The In This Place Forever album came out in 1996 and it was preceded by the Fragile EP and various tapes. I think the Future Music Mesh feature and cover CD came out in 1993.

[@VaughnGeorge]

You are right and I should have known better! I need to edit my videos more carefully! VG :-)

[@hornetfronty]

Mesh sound like Mesh!! Full stop! Can't wait for the new album and UK tour hopefully. 😎😉

[@strychnyne3530]

I just listened to this song for the first time. How anyone thinks its Martin Gore is beyond me.

[@Jojje67]

I also listened for the first time. Music is very like DM and singing has it's similarities, but also some differences. So it's not hard to misstake this for a DM song.

[@jounikainulainen7625]

This is a good MESH ad for no reason. 😂

[@VaughnGeorge]

It's illegal for me to promote my own product on my own channel? VG

[@christianmoya5268]

It worked for me. Now I wanna buy Mesh just because of this video. Why is it illegal for one to promote their own stuff on their own channel?

[@HenningUhle]

Honestly, I've never heard of "Not prepared" before. Don't know why because this is a style that always catches me. But I can imagine where this rumour came from. When listening to the original video, suddenly it came to my mind to replace "And we're not prepared" with "Well, I'm not looking for absolution". I didn't read about the rumours and - as I said - I didn't know the song. But I think it's possible that some people thought it's like a "Walking in my Shoes II". You can make a brilliant mesh-up from both songs. But great that you had a word with one of the lads. Thank you for this video. Because the song is great. I wish I had known it before.

[@eichisama]

I've never heard it before now, but "Not Prepared" sounds _nothing_ like DM. The one song that really tripped me up when it first came out was "You Think You Know Her" by Cause & Effect (on their first album). Now THAT track sounded a heck of a lot like DM (even though I knew it wasn't when I first heard it). C&E's second album, "Trip" is simply fantastic (IMO their best).

[@maximilianolopez6644]

Only the common ear can confuse Dm with Camouflage, Mesh, De Vision, Beborn Beton. A DM fan that confuses Martin voice with Marks, it not a fan in my opinion

[@harald-bosh]

100% agree!

[@BiserAngelov1]

This song feels more like Depeche Mode, than Exciter.

[@revnet10102]

This is the first song I heard from Mesh - labelled as Depeche, I still remember downloading it, instantly knew it wasnt Depeche but led me to find out more, bought the album and been a fan of Mesh ever since. 👍

[@beatsarebroken]

Also, much like the other bands that often got tagged as DM, Mesh has not yet broken big in the scene.

[@klausschneider9963]

Mesh were quite a hype here in Germany at that time in the scene.

[@briite1]

I remember mistaking a song for Depeche Mode, when I first heard it. The song was The Great Commandment by Camouflage.

[@Jojje67]

That song is not likly a DM song. So mistake it for a DM is strange.

[@Jordanmode]

I remember this! There was debate about it on Depeche Mode message boards! This is one of those precious few times that I can proudly say that I was NOT fooled. Funny enough, when a very brief taste of “Dream On” actually did leak, there was pretty heavy debate over whether or not it was real. This Mesh song was heavily credited as the reason for the doubt.

[@DCtouring]

would've been nice if you included a snippet of the song

[@VaughnGeorge]

For sure but please understand that KZbin does not allow you to share copyright material. I don't make the rules but I have to play by them . VG :-)

[@DCtouring]

@@VaughnGeorge i meant the mesh song. you're in the band and surely have permission to post it

[@DepecheMV]

I have to see the video, but this was my first mesh song and I’m glad that fake DM song ended on my hard drive. Now I love Mesh.

[@lesimprosdulezardvert1342]

When you're listening to "The point at which it falls apart", you realize how much "Ultra" and "Songs of faith" are really well produced. And Mesh did a good job. It reminds me of Camouflage "Sensor" and Paradise Lost "Host". And I really like "The damage you do"

[@MinorArth]

I remember the story ! As i was getting more familiar with DM, but didn't know their music so much in depth at the time, i got fooled for a while, like many casual-but-not-so-expert fans. If we didn't know other bands in the same category, then we'd think it was a Martin Gore song (I agree Mark's voice is not identical, but still has a few things in common). As for the track being mislabeled a demo... that was probably more due to the timing with no DM album until 2001 (as you said, fans always looking for something new, even now!), than the quality of the finished track which is great. Strange story, but that had allowed me to discover Mesh too, who are excellent in their own right. Interesting that you made a video about it, and that are now playing with mesh !

[@VaughnGeorge]

@@MinorArth Thanks for your kind comment ! Cheers! VG 😎🎹🙏

[@fernandochapa]

And the song?? We came to hear the song!

[@VaughnGeorge]

welcome to the internet : You can simply search the song and listen to it yourself. KZbin does not allow me to play copyright material in my videos. VG :-)

[@MinorArth]

Here it is. along with its album. Great to hear it again after many years ! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5PQl2mphZ2Uj9E&pp=8AUB

[@Maxthemode]

Great video Vaughn👍 Oh, I totally remember all that confusion from back then! It actually turned out to be a good thing for Mesh in the end! That’s when I first discovered them, around that time back in the summer of 2000! 👍🙂

[@VaughnGeorge]

Thank you sir! VG :-)

[@815-xyz]

As alreaded stated by others here, the song The great commandment by Camouflage released in September 1987 was mistakenly considered as a DM song from the upcoming album Music for the Masses. Especially in the former GDR, even by die-hard fans, because there, further information on a song played on western radio stations was very limited, original tapes, LPs, singles etc not available. no music magazines such as Bravo, popcorn, poprocky whats how ever. It took a few days until the real next release Behind the wheel and an "imported" Bravo set this right 😊

[@timbentley72]

I can imagine how in 1999, Depeche fans would have been clambering for something new. Essentially there’s been ‘click bait’ like this on KZbin for years, basically every band that’s remotely like the Mode and wants some views of their track. It would have been obvious to any discerning fan that this isn’t DM. However, I don’t agree that the vocalist doesn’t sound remotely like Martin. It’s obvious to me it’s not him, but the heavy vibrato and warble in some of those BV’s on the chorus are so heavily influenced by him. Secondly, the music clearly apes a few ‘Mode-isms’ and there are elements of WIMS in the rhythm track and bass. But without nearly as much attention to detail in the sounds.

[@aaronjames7073]

I really like this song. I've never heard it before. I doubt I would have ever mistaken it for a Depeche Mode song. However, a song on that same album "Needle in a Bruise", that one sounds more like Martin side project. There was a song in 1990 or 1991, that I did think was a Depeche Mode song for a short time after hearing it on the radio the first time. It was called "You Think You Know Her" by Cause And Effect.

[@GottkaiserFhqwhgod]

in 1999 the file was probably in a miserable bitrate and I have to say he does sound a little bit like Martin on that one. More than usual at least.

[@g-muni5855]

Im a big fan of Mesh.. listened to that entire album when released back when or any albums, yes there might be some DM influence, but the sounds, vocal, vibe are all Mesh. Mesh is just that good

[@markruiz7333]

I never heard of mesh. Until i looked this song up on youtube and then when i heard it, im like...ok i heard this before.

[@Adgaro1]

I had this song my Winamp playlist in 2001 and it was called Not Prepared - Depeche Mode. :)

[@audiolego]

There's the Italian Synthpop band called Perfidious Words from that time . That band is totally a Depeche like band. Vocals, arrangement and sound. Oh they're good.

[@leuk146]

your face when rich says the mesh album art is made with AI was hilarious. Honestly I wouldn't have even guessed it was AI, the same way I wouldn't have ever thought mesh was Depeche Mode lol such a funny story

[@ModeMan101]

I think this primarily had to do with the rising popularity of Napster and other filesharing platforms from around that time, where anyone could upload a song and label it an "unreleased DM demo". At the same time as "Not Prepared" was doing the rounds as an alleged DM demo titled "Don't Get There", Color Theory's song "Ponytail Girl" was shared on Napster in 2001 with the claim that it was a Martin Gore demo. I think that one got even more traction than Mesh on some fan forums at the time. It became so much of a popular internet myth among DM fans that Brian Hazard, the man behind Color Theory, ended up releasing an album of his own DM covers a few years later and stuck Ponytail Girl at the end as a cheeky bonus track.

[@Harry-Giles]

Enjoyed it VG.

[@andyreichert499]

I'd love ot see Mesh live. Discovered them about 10-15 years ago and picked up all their albums to date. Unfortunately Germany isn't in the cards :(

[@leventak911]

there was one more song on the boot leg by Joy Machine - Separate Ways

[@Fito2019]

As a spaniard I was totally "not prepared" to hear Vaughn say "adios" with such a very good spanish accent 😂

[@VaughnGeorge]

Gracias Amigo! VG :-)

[@EliasHug-ys7xt]

For a second I thought this is going to be about another AI Depeche Mode song.

[@VaughnGeorge]

Well thank GOD it was not!! VG :-)

[@EliasHug-ys7xt]

@ Unfortunately, there are entire albums of AI-generated DM songs now. It‘s just crazy!

[@Ameara_LaVey]

@@EliasHug-ys7xt me too ❕😂

[@JayBelton]

So yeah, Mark's voice is instantly recognizable. I'm a huge DM fan, and *maybe* I could have thought the intro was a DM/Martin song, but the second you hear Mark's voice you would know it wasn't. You'd think people would know at least, apparently not. 😂 Oh! And I LOVE Mesh! Come tour San Francisco. It's been over a decade now.

[@TimothySmiths]

Nice missed that you are playing with Mesh now, I saw them live about 12 years ago give or take, playing with Iris and Devision. The song i recall always being mistaken as Depeche on P2P sites was a song called "Separate Ways" by a band by the name of Joy Machine , I own the CD purchased from back at that time. The singer to that band sounds way closer to Martin than Mesh does.

[@robalbalos]

In the United States on one of the single releases, I believe it's dream on not prepared was one of the songs on the Depeche mode single release album. I know I'll have to go through all of my old CDs to find it. I'm sure of it I know I'm not going crazy.

[@dieter67]

I thought it was DM at the time. I love Mesh, People Like Me, Crash, Born To Lie, all great songs. Congratulations on keyboard gig!

[@VaughnGeorge]

@@dieter67 thank you sir ! VG 🎹😎

[@nagashtheforsaken]

I love Mesh. More than DeMode these days. So cool that you are working with them. They are so good. To be fair, Mark does sound like Martin Gore a tad to the initiated.

[@mtennantmusic]

I thought for sure you were going to say Ponytail Girl from Color Theory.

[@VaughnGeorge]

I only heard of that the other day and had to look it up. VG :-)

[@markruiz7333]

Same here. That's what I thought because I remember in the 90s when people were hearing Ponytail Girl on the radio and saying it was DM.

[@nerdyrob]

If I’d never listened to Mesh before, I could be convinced that this was Martin experimenting.

[@WhatsThePoints1]

Just discovering this music better late than never! Starting with this song. From the first bar of vocals I can tell it’s another vocalist. Similar vibrato on the chorus I guess

[@MrPomelo555]

It sounds nothing like a DM song. It baffles me that anyone would think otherwise. One song that I originally thought to be Depeche was « Thinking of You » by Seven Red Seven, especially the chorus. Ever heard it, Vaughn?

[@daromirfirunsson]

First i thought it was about this dark industrial intro sound. :D

[@cordlesswire]

for years, nay decades i thought ‘love is a shield’ was a depeche mode song. lol.

[@kidSkidlo-71]

Great vid as normal.....Can u tell me if and when Mesh would release a new album and will you appear on it?

[@paulgriffiths2932]

I see that I wasn't the only one, who thought that

[@VaughnGeorge]

VG :-) :-)

[@davewilliams5357]

saw mesh in islington o2 support devision anfd trul that was a fantastic gig intro for my eldest into my world of music

[@memus333]

This is the first time I've heard it. The song is good, but I would never confuse it with Depeche Mode.

[@VaughnGeorge]

@@memus333 absolutely! VG 🎹😎

[@Ameara_LaVey]

"Not prepared" by Mesh is a very "depechemodian" song❕

[@glubone]

I like that term "depechemodian" :D

[@Ameara_LaVey]

@glubone 😁

[@christianmoya5268]

Totally sounds like DM and Martin's vocals, even though they say they don't hear it.

[@yeahman1975]

Vaughn can you do a review of cause and effect past releases and current projects please? I think it would be great if you were able to contact them and interview them. It would be awesome for Camouflage, Red Flag, anything box, information society…. It would make a great synthpop series IMO

[@deanhoffman9260]

I love Mesh! That is awesome you're in that band now! The last album I've heard from them was from 2016, anything new coming soon? Or did I miss one?

[@zejarra]

Mesh have been going on since 1993’ not 97’ . I saw them in 97 and they were already 2 albums in . They released an album just of old demos etc.. from 93’ period . Some of their best stuff in my opinion . I am surprised this info wasn’t shared with you given that you play with them .

[@HangoverTelevision]

there were many other songs which could be mistaken to be from DM, but never anything by MESH honestly.

[@VaughnGeorge]

I agree! VG :-)

[@sherriebell1501]

I don't think the Mesh song sounds anything like DM. It sounds like Mesh and we all know what they sound like and love those guys 😁

[@bruinman1012]

I remember hearing Not Prepared back in 1999 and definitely thought it was a DM Martin Gore song. The vocals sound just like Martin and the lyrics are very Depeche Mode like. It’s a great track.

[@MyJoyDepecheMode]

🥰👍❤👍🥰

[@The.Last.Guitar.Hero.]

it does sound like Martin Gore tbf

[@VaughnGeorge]

@@The.Last.Guitar.Hero. agreed ! Hence I cannot understand the confusion! VG 🎹😎

[@carlosmodegahan4455]

This is a special event on a great album! Is the concert going to be filmed professionally?? It would be good.

[@gloraditch6915]

I can see how people might have been confused as the vibrato in the vocals during the build sound like Martin's vibrato style on DM ballad songs.

[@modeman69]

What about Cause and Effect ? The song : you think you know her

[@andersistbesser]

I love mesh!

[@VaughnGeorge]

Bless you! VG :-)

[@TheBeautyBoxLife]

I'm a Huge DM fan, pretty much anything 70s/90s electronic, and I've Never Heard of mesh or this song, perhaps because I'm American (California) 🤔

[@beatsarebroken]

I think the relevant piece of information is at that time file sharing was an all-time high and it was very uncommon for MP3 files not to be tagged correctly, so assumptions were made.

[@mark46ification]

I'm a DM fan since 1988 but I've never heard this song in my life...but I admit it's a nice attempt to promote your band😄

[@VaughnGeorge]

Last I heard it was not a crime to promote your OWN product on your OWN KZbin channel? VG :-)

[@mark46ification]

@@VaughnGeorge I absolutely and wholeheartedly agree and it's okay...what's not okay is that you abuse the DM brand for that...I don't really see any connection between your group and DM ;-)

[@RobotWillie]

I like Depeche Mode a decent amount but I am not familiar with Mesh, I do delve more into traditional rock and alternative for most my music likes. I am old enough to admit when I was a teen Limewire was a thing I used and I was just getting into music as that time, I hadn't really been much into music until around 13-14, here in the US that is Junior High School age. And one of the bands I was getting into and still consider them pretty much my favorite is The Police, and even though I was aware Sting had a successful solo career I had not delved very much into it, and I knew some of the solo songs but very little. So of course I take for granted when a file off a place like Limewire tells me Englishman in New York is a Police song I believe it like a naive teenager. I mean they did some interesting stuff on Synchronicity and Ghost in the Machine, and I had a feeling it sounded too non-Police listening to it yet I still went and had my dad listen to the song telling him,"It's The Police" and him adamantly telling me it wasn't and me arguing with him because the file said it was. Meanwhile the same thing happens with a band called Sublime, most famous for their song Santeria, a ska and reggae inspired band, and me downloading this song called "I've Seen Better Days" which I heard on the radio a lot too and love to this day still. And since Limewire says it by Sublime by god it must be by them, and I know a kid at my high school who likes Sublime and I bring the song up to him and he adamantly says its not by them and I tell him this file I have says it is them and I convince him his memory must not be right. Yet I am the one who can't find any record or single they ever came out with named that. So its actually a one hit wonder by a band called Citizen King. And I finally got smart that many things on these file sharing sites are labeled wrong and not to take them for granted all the time. Even to this day on KZbin I saw a song a few months ago labeled as a Nirvana song when its really a Stone Temple Pilots song called Half the Man I Used to Be and looking up that song by name still turns up the mislabeled one that has almost 10 million views. It does have a Nirvana vibe to it for sure being from the same era and grunge but again they both have there own sound much like Depeche Mode and bands they influenced or were influenced by. So I am very well versed in this subject because it happened to me as a kid around this same era in the mid 2000s not long after 1999 so its not surprising this happened to Depeche Mode and Mesh as well as sad as it is that the correct artist doesn't get their credit the pirating wasn't giving either band money anyway either sadly. I have not pirated anything since like 2011 I am proud to say, and I don't just mean music I pirated computer games and programs back then too so I am done doing all of that now that I can pay for it, and if I can't afford it I just don't get it.

[@antonyhudson5029]

M E S H

[@PaulEmery-ue8pk]

This sounds absolutely nothing like DM. From first second, the production sound , the lightweight bells, the voice is neither Martin nor Dave. Even a legit DM demo is clearly DM and no one else. Like Vaughn i do struggle to understand how some hear DM compared to others. I would say however that Camouflage’s “ Lost” is eerily close to Ultra era Depeche and is good song.

[@andersistbesser]

I just watched the songs video and it DOES sound like a dm demo. Many of mesh songs do.the synth sounds are different, more basic but the way the singer sings and sounds reminds of martin strongly even tough he does not excactly sounds the same

[@maximilianolopez6644]

Probably u dont know anything about production and never listened to a Depeche Demo. HOW CAN U BE SO IGNORANT???

[@simonstebel9382]

The great commander was also an song i thought it was definitiv a dm song 😅

[@aaronjames7073]

I really

[@richardstocks9139]

Would have been nice to include a snip of the song in question. I had to search for it, I shouldn't have bothered because it's rubbish.

[@sinord5288]

Never heard of them ever. That's how famous they are.

[@VaughnGeorge]

Define "Famous" for us?. I too heard never heard of Mesh until it was brought to my attention in the early stages of my KZbin channel. I tell was like "How I have never heard of them?" VG :-)

[@niallmcdonagh1093]

Just had a listen. We could only wish that DM products from '99 onwards were this good.....sadly DM from this time were mostly shite!!!

[@emmanuelgathellier135]

This reminds minds of this song wrongly labeled on napster (yes, napster) as a depeche mode song kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHLLgKd4mJmLi9U

[@Rico-1-y6y]

So where’s the song!

[@VaughnGeorge]

You can "google it". KZbin doe snot allow me to play copyright material. VG

[@fonsterlit]

from Belarus with Love, George!!!

[@VaughnGeorge]

Big love straight back to you! VG:-)

[@majesticfloors]

COMPARE DM TO THESE JOKERS

[@VaughnGeorge]

If that's your "informed" opinion? .... Fine. VG

[@pwndude]

The song in question doesn't sound anything like DM. At best, a cheap copy.

[@VaughnGeorge]

Thanks! VG

[@Kppot]

Dude, anything past Ultra was not a Depeche Mode song as well

[@InfraRedLight]

Oh, quite right!

[@mikrosajt]

Like Mesh. Not Clickbaits

[@VaughnGeorge]

How is this video clickbait?? Please do explain?? You apparently don't seem to understand the meaning of "clickbait" so I'd love to know what your definition of "clickbait" is. VG

[@iamsimonmorris]

Thanks for posting ...but seriously the SONG??? what was the point of this post? Certainly not to push a Book(aweosme I am certain) and promo and Album re-releas and an upcoming sow or two .....

[@VaughnGeorge]

I really don't understand your line of questioning here? Is it illegal for me to promote my own work on my own channel? (I mean everyone else does it). Are you new to KZbin or what? What exactly were you expecting from a KZbin video? VG

[@m.stimson3829]

Wow! I guess if there are some things things, if you said that 🤷 in ♥️ 25 years?... then I would probably gone through research... well that's 👏 all I know, BTW thank you 😊.

[@m.stimson3829]

I mean, what else 🤷 you ♥️ would say in 25 years?

[@VaughnGeorge]

@@m.stimson3829 you are always welcome ! VG 😎🎹

[@moabyte2]

are you really doing this? wow

[@VaughnGeorge]

@@moabyte2 yes I am . And merry Xmas to you too! VG

[@maximilianolopez6644]

I´m from Argentina (The ass of the world) and knew Mesh in 1999 when someone on Napster recommended me to try Mesh - Not prepared and You Didn´t want me. I probably would get to know them sonner or later. So I can´t understand why English people have just discovered Mesh right now...

[@VaughnGeorge]

Hello to you my friend from Argentina ! I am aware a strong following in your county. The UK is pretty much fast asleep as to what's right under their noses in their own country. Having left the UK and now living in Europe I can assure you the markets here are so much more varied and open minded. VG :-)

[@thedelacruz]

Despised got me into Mesh Internal joke “ some of their albums are mislabled as Cries and Whispers” 😂😂😂🏌🏼