Ois varmasti ollu 86-vuoden mestari. Maailman nopeimpia kuskeja ellei nopein 80-luvulla. Ajo hyvin takavetosella nelivetosia vastaan ja kun sai nelivetosen s4n alleen niin oli lähes voittamaton. Lepää rauhassa Legenda :)
@PlebanMuzeum Жыл бұрын
It's the first time I hear about the "backstage" movements after the accident. What a wicked approach of Lancia, bloody scoundrels.
@mampe889815 күн бұрын
Lancia "family" nobody didin't come to funeral. They just forgot him....
@munamiesification9 жыл бұрын
Henri toivonen was a fantastic rally driver! One of the best in the world. He died too early, because he was the best!
@sale-86877 жыл бұрын
jep
@psa39816 жыл бұрын
I was young at that time.. Henry Toivonen was an example, he was a hero... Fast and positive hero. Henry you will remain in ours hearts for ever... RIP
@SquillyMon5 жыл бұрын
This was one of the most informative videos I've ever seen regarding Henri. Its a little hard to watch actually. What beautiful blessings they had...family, his wife, kids, parents...all of it. RIP Henri, you are not forgotten.
@hardyherrmann41548 жыл бұрын
Today is May 2 2016 - 30 years now when the darkest day in history of Rallye happened ! Henri....Sergio, you will remain unforgotten - R.I.P
@nosopuli70493 жыл бұрын
Henkka oli varsinkin asfaltilla aivan pitelemätön verrattuna muihin, olisi ollut todella kova ratakuski. Ajoi monia vuosia altavastaaja kalustolla. Vasta 4 lenkkarilla raapiva Lancia oli hänellä kilpailukykyinen.
@zackjones8008 жыл бұрын
what legend i would of loved to seen him driving with my own eyes this mans braveness and skill of driving the group b cars he loved the thrill of it and danger unfortunately i don't think we will ever see driving ability like this ever again. R.I.P Henri the fastest flying fin of the 80s gone but will never be forgotten
@Nalleteus7 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Loeb ???
@StewartEvans526 жыл бұрын
i had the pleasure of seeing him in his sunbeam 1980 rac and i can honestly say,no man could make a car dance like henri could
@StewartEvans526 жыл бұрын
loeb? stfu loeb isnt any where near henri's talent man
@donbrashsux7 жыл бұрын
What an amazing driver,and seems like a really nice guy and fantastic father..the family can be so proud..
@villetre11 жыл бұрын
Henkka oli paras.Todella koskettava tarina. Henkka elää ikuisesti muistoissa kyllä.
@fetusofetuso21227 жыл бұрын
a small wall at the side of the road, and we would maybe still be speaking with him today.
@fleeex19544 жыл бұрын
And world champion!!!
@dickmccarthy94963 жыл бұрын
Or if the team would not been able to fix Delta's gearbox, he would be alive.. :/
@max27stoner2 жыл бұрын
And if the Lancia would’ve just put a skid plate underneath the car. There’s pretty plausible story that Lancia didn’t use them on tarmac rallies. It was taken off to save weight. I’m pretty sure Lancia used them in the gravel rallies as it was important to keep all the gravel and rocks away. That Lancia Delta S4 weighted already only about 890 kg and that’s without the drivers and fuel. Those skid plates weighted just few kilograms so they took every part that wasn’t necessary, or was just heavy, out of the car. Crazy times, would never happen today
@dusankocisevic68232 жыл бұрын
@@max27stoner so true…… Henri’s and Sergio’s blood is on Fiorio’s hands for sure.
@minnat34182 жыл бұрын
Kaikki nämä dokumentit jäävät meidän historiaanm Kiitos kun teit tämän muiston.
@Silhillian19686 жыл бұрын
I used to adore Lancia...no more after the way they treated his family. Utterly contemptuous and disgusting . Henri deserved better, sorry his family have to live with the disdain of his so called “friends “.
@RFreigeldorff5 жыл бұрын
what happened there?
@bigthunder14994 жыл бұрын
@@RFreigeldorff They ( Lancia Racing Team) went on like nothing happend and Fiorio (Team Chief of Lancia Racing Team) didnt bother to call henris wife about the accident nor went to henris funeral. He even calles himself a good friend of the family, since he already worked with henris father. But then, Lancia didnt even pay for Henris work after his death. His Wife got a Phone call from lanica, that she must sign a contract stating that lancia isnt guilty of the death of henri. Even when Henri tried to withdraw from the race. Hope it summons up the correct answer. Please correct me if im wrong
@lingotto944 жыл бұрын
@@bigthunder1499 Where does this information come from and if it is true, why did it not appear in the press ..?
@bigthunder14994 жыл бұрын
@@lingotto94 You can watch it in the video. The interview with his wife and cesare fiorio. Edit: Dont know why they didnt went to thr press. Maybe they settled with lancia afterwards.
@BLACKTHUMB0110 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this important insight on the tragic loss of Henri Toivonen ,and Sergio Cresto. I wish it contained more factual information about Sergio that might help us understand how strong the trust was between driver, and co-driver at that point in time.
@Rypsolisti4 жыл бұрын
Kylmäävä kohta kun Pauli Toivonen mietti että olisiko Henkka pitänyt sittenkin ohjata rata-autoilun puolelle, tippa oli siinä isän silmässä kun tuon sanoi. Perhehän oli suostutellut Henkan rallin puolelle koska katsoivat silloin että rata-autoilu on liian vaarallista, joskus '83-'84 ehkä. Henrihän kävi ajamassa pari C-ryhmäläisten kisaa ja taisi testata muuan Eddie Jordanin F3000 tiimille. Jordan kehui että Henkasta olisi yhtä hyvin voinut tulla menestyksekäs rata-autoilija.
@tomlepski830614 күн бұрын
First time I am seeing the background of how team Lancia operated. This is disgusting to the extreme, the way they treated Henri's widow. A very inhuman team it was, without human values, just obsessed with winning titles at whatever cost to the drivers. The worst thing they did as mentioned on the video is to withold Henri's dues, even after he had lost his life in that deathtrap of a car. It was also callous of team Boss Cesare Fiorio or any senior member of the team not to attend Henri's funeral. It is not too late for team Lancia or Stellantis Europe to reach out to Henri's family and make amends. I wonder if Attilio Bettega's family was treated the same way after he tragically lost his life in a Lancia 037 a year before Henri. In comparison, Peugeot were light years ahead of Lancia in the compassionate way they treated their drivers after serious tragedies in competition. Ari Vatanen and Shekhar Mehta were taken care of very well by Peugeot after their terrible accidents in Agentina and Egypt respectively. May Henri, Sergio and Attilio's souls rest in eternal peace.
@Jonttu87YT8 жыл бұрын
Pakko sano että aikas tyly talli oli toi Lancia. Henkkaa sakoilla uhattu jos jättää viel jonkun kisan kesken ja sitten toi että Lancia talli hoitaa kaikki Henrin laskut sillä edellytyksellä että tallia ei syytetä Henkan onnettomuudesta. Todella likaista peliä! Ensi viikon maanantaina tulee Henkan ja Sergion onnetomuudesta tasan 30 vuotta.
@Mazufa4 жыл бұрын
Juu ei voi mitenkään Henkkaa kyl talli syyttää siitä jos auto vaikka hajoo tms. Niin ja keskeytykset vaan kuuluu motorsporttiin, ja ihan kohtuutonta Lancialta kyl tollanen.
@dickmccarthy94963 жыл бұрын
Joo Pösö ja Lancia molemmat harrasti tosi likasta politiikkaa verhojen takana..
@dusankocisevic68232 жыл бұрын
Amazing documentary, so emotional……. It is true, Henri was driving like there is no tomorrow. A crazy son of a gun!❤
@rallyimpact11 жыл бұрын
Brilliant thank you, I never knew there was so much animosity towards Lancia after the accident. Lots to learn from this video that I've never seen or heard anywhere else so thanks again for the subtitles.
@burtpanasonic6 жыл бұрын
One of the best documentaries I've ever seen. Excellent.
@samppa929 жыл бұрын
Henkka oli todellinen lahjakkuus ja olisi varmasti päässyt korkealle! keveät mullat henkalle
@Rypsolisti4 жыл бұрын
At 45:40 they interviewed Sami Visa, a friend of Henri Toivonen. Later on Sami Visa would meet and friend with certain Kimi Räikkönen! Visa became Kimi's ''main man''.
@MrHesuli12 жыл бұрын
Todella hyvä dokumentti. Henri oli loistava kuski ja olisi luultavasti voittanut mestaruuden kyseisenä vuotena.Kiitos dokumentista!
@bigdrymartini11 жыл бұрын
Thx for relisting. English subtitles would be great if anyone can. RIP Henri.
@brutalictesku9 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Legend
@eetusalmi86088 жыл бұрын
Henri would become world champion, but the destiny was another. World champion in 1985 was Timo Salonen and 1986 World Campion was Juha Kankkunen. Both driving Peugeot and team chief was Mr Jean Todt.
@OnlyLancia5 жыл бұрын
RIP Henri.I was in Corte monument.Great driver and hero.Groetje uit Tsjechien
@fleeex19544 жыл бұрын
40:33 well Audi retired from Group B befor the accidendt. The RS200 accident was the call for them. To bad that it wasnt stoped at just that time. But i loved to have seen these cars in the 80's... omg yes ... Great documentarty. Henri was one of the greatest. Legend!! // Sweden over and out. PS .. CO drivers family?? Hello?
@henrikhook.7 жыл бұрын
😢Henri Toivonen. Legend forever.
@bigdrymartini11 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I can see the English subtitles now. Thx again
@rallyimpact12 жыл бұрын
Yeah this has been on KZbin before but got removed, I'm sorted this time though :-) this looks to be a real insight into the toivonen family I'm sure the producers could re-make this for the modern times and produce a dvd. Henri is as popular now as he was in his day, lots of young fans who were probably not even born when he was rallying. Good to see a toivonen book has now been released.
@MikkoGibson11 жыл бұрын
Hi, your wish is fulfilled. Thank you very much Antti L. for subtitling.
@bossboyritchno12875 жыл бұрын
These beast were hard machines to drive, particularly the lancia on Tarmac!!! With 700 brake on high boost and no power steering with huge mega wide racing slicks it was an absolute workout just steering the thing thru the g forces of all those corners at Corsica with a totally locked trans (no centre diff) let alone the thousands of manual gear changes in a heavy 1985 gearbox and sintered racing clutch! You can see at 4:30 he's absolutely fucked and done more miles in one day than a full 1000 lakes rally Finland!!! 4 hour stages! Flat out!!! Think about that????
@jussiuutaniemi37675 жыл бұрын
S4 had power steering, rather vulnerable though. But yeah, the physical burden of that event was off the charts. Even though S4 had compressor to give torque on low and middle revs, probably still the driver had to keep pumping the accelerator in corners / gear change to keep turbo pressures optimal. Almost the whole route was a series of corners....
@toivonencresto6 ай бұрын
700 and 600 are completely bullxxxt from people who didn't know or remember correctly. Delta was at 520 at Olympus.
@Mosquito2211 жыл бұрын
Henkka oli hienoin kuski ikuna.
@sale-86877 жыл бұрын
no einy iha mut melkein
@hockeyflow91007 жыл бұрын
no oli..
@tempra954 жыл бұрын
Se oli paras
@Mazufa8 ай бұрын
Oon kahtonu tämän useita kertoja ja ei voi kun kehua tätä Henri Toivosesta tehtyä dogumenttiä! :) Itse oon ollu koko ikäni suuri ralli ja formula 1 fani ja oon itse ajanutkin jokamiesluokkaa, ja myös jääradalla ajeltu kavereiden kanssa. Olis kyllä hienoa jos Lancia ja Audi tulisivat mukaan rallin MM-sarjaan, ja formula 1 Audi tuleekin vuonna 2026! :) Harrastaa olisin halunnut jokamiesluokkaa enemmänki ja kokeilla rallisprinttiä, mutta tähän ei sitte rahaa kuitenkaan ikinä ollut, eikä oikeen niillä näytöillä saanu sponsoreita. Jonkinlaisia "sponsoreita" oli kyllä, mutta ei se hirveästi auta jos öljykanisterin antaa ja tarrat käteen.
@zombienation57357 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Henri...
@kariviljanen42868 жыл бұрын
he was world best driver
@markusliesegang56849 жыл бұрын
Kiitokset dokumentista, huikea mies ja kuski....
@atomsmasher95 жыл бұрын
Actually, Sergio Cresto was experienced enough: he was 1984 european champion co driving Carlo Capone on a Lancia 037. Same year anda same championship, Toivonen raced a Porsche 911 to second place overall
@bigthunder14994 жыл бұрын
Today, before 34 years it happend. RIP Henri Toivonen und Sergio Cresto.
@Pultset12 жыл бұрын
Kiitoksia tästä! Todella hyvä dokumentti!
@whakken12 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Henri was an awesome driver.
@Jonttu87YT Жыл бұрын
Saikohan Alen myös varoitus kirjeen tallilta niinkuin Henkka sai tuon Portugalin päätöksen jälkeen.
@mampe8898 Жыл бұрын
Hyvä kysymys, melko jäätävää oli tallin toiminta. Ihan kuin yritettiin peitellä onnettomuuden syytä sillä että erja pyydettiin kirjottamaan lappu että hän ei syytä tallia onnettomuudesta. Jossain haastattelussa markku alen sai että italialainen tiimi on kuin perhe, melkoinen perhe kun kukaan ei tullu hautajaisiin.
@sumosami4 жыл бұрын
well, at least he died way "that he actualy like it" he knew the risks. huge respect
@marks_sparks16 жыл бұрын
Walter Rohrl said in his opinion only 5 drivers were capable of controlling a Group B car in full cry. He never said who they were however. I'd like to think Henri made that list. Like Ronnie Peterson, he had the skills to be the King. He just never got the chance to wear the crown.
@toivonencresto6 ай бұрын
WR changed the number at times, but in his top 3 Henri was included.
@burakkalayci21495 жыл бұрын
0-200 km/h 9.6 seconds .amazingly fast
@Jonttu87YT8 жыл бұрын
Ei jumalauta tota Fiorion ja Lancia tallin toimia!!
@poa1934 жыл бұрын
Really touching documentary.. I don't understand the 42 dislikes (maybe are of people who don't know a s*** about rally). RIP Henri
@ratflail2154 жыл бұрын
B series was just too insane. He was forced to drive despite not feeling good on top of that.
@poa1934 жыл бұрын
@@ratflail215 I understand that, but why dislike a video which tells you what was going also behind the scenes? I don't see the connection.
@MM0SDK9 жыл бұрын
What a man. RIP Henri.
@josephanaedozie90588 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Henri
@MikkoGibson11 жыл бұрын
Lopputekstien mukaan: Mikko Lyytikäinen/Movision. Rallista tietämätön suomentaja on sotkenut maailmanmestaruus osakilpailun ja rallin maailmanmestaruuden keskenään. Olisitko innokas kääntämään suomeksi puhutut osuudet englanniksi? Moni on kysellyt tekstityksiä tähän, mutta minulla ei ole aikaa siihen. Lisäisin mielelläni valmiit tekstit tähän videoon.
@timoilonen19266 жыл бұрын
Ei ole Henry! On ihan suomalaisittain Henri!!
@MikkoGibson6 жыл бұрын
Tekstityksessä muitakin virheitä, esim. Henriä väitetään maailmanmestariksi, mutta niitä ei voi korjata. Tämä on 80-luvulla VHS:llä tallennettu ja sellaisenaan tänne importoitu. Mutta jos vähänkään rallista ymmärtää, niin tajuaa suomentajan olleen hieman pihalla.
@ronitammi97406 жыл бұрын
MikkoGibson group b:sä pystyi jo sanomaan maailmanmestariksi jos pääsi loppuun asti ja voitti ja sitä paremmalla syyllä kun voitti vielä pari kisaa siinä
@anssivelin95336 жыл бұрын
Opettele lukemaan
@daikoura040111 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Henri...
@MikkoGibson11 жыл бұрын
I think I get confused by the new KZbin layout. Subtitles can be turned on a different point than before.
@MikkoGibson11 жыл бұрын
Noh, onhan se kuintenkin kiva, että meillä on suomi poikia tällä tasolla kisaamassa. Tuolla tasolle on tosi vaikea päästä ja ruotsalaisia on paljon vähemmän :)
@SteveM-ly7oy4 жыл бұрын
It's a great and informative film. But very sad to watch. Sometimes I think it was fate and the only thing that could have stopped Group B was a fatal crash with the impact it made. I am not saying that God made it happen but it is spooky. One would have thought that after Portugal something would have been done about the spectators for a start. Then you see Alen etc talking about the fact that before the Tour de Corse in 1986 the drivers and FISA had a meeting and the drivers categorically said that the cars were too powerful, difficult to drive, difficult to concentrate and physically draining. In addition, the rally was too long, almost 1000kms, including road sections. Madness. In 2020 the rallies are 350 kms tops, even less, and I am sure some drivers are bitching even about that. I have heard at least 10 different theories for the crash, and all of them are indeed plausible, but the fact is we will never know. Probably.
@laineracing4 жыл бұрын
Tämä dokumentti on myös jotenki pelottava toi alku ku tuli noit flashbackkei
@Gazorgh8 жыл бұрын
Hienoja ihmisiä noi makaroonit.
@PetriIkonen-cq1opАй бұрын
😎👌😎👌
@eetusalmi86088 жыл бұрын
After that, Group B cars were banned.
@traktori28884 жыл бұрын
Kyllä
@tempra954 жыл бұрын
Henri Toivonen😢
@tomipaakkunainen34707 ай бұрын
R.IP Henry
@ghicaccatta8 жыл бұрын
non ti dimenticherò mai! ....
@3M46DN1M12 жыл бұрын
Kiitos! tää pitäis vielä tekstittää, totta joku hieno mies senkin toteuttaa?
@jarmojokijarvi251911 жыл бұрын
Ja Cesare Fiorio moottoriurheilun suurin persereikä.En viitsi edes aloittaa.Ettei vedetä oikeuteen.Vaikka kuka näitä lukee?
@fredschriks85549 жыл бұрын
R.I.P!
@rallyimpact12 жыл бұрын
I really wish this had English subtitles.
@marks_sparks16 жыл бұрын
crashes1978 click on double dot icon in top right corner. Select captions and English. They work perfect
@thebrummierailenthusiasts53294 жыл бұрын
Seppo harjanne needs to talk in English because I can’t understand what he’s saying
@boweryst116 жыл бұрын
the dark side of lancia...
@davidgrovegrove69857 жыл бұрын
What a charming fellow he was and an exceptional talent to handle a group b beast loeb would not be able to handle such a machine.
@chabaember61407 жыл бұрын
David Grove Grove q
@marks_sparks16 жыл бұрын
David Grove Grove Dunno - Loeb did what no non-scandinavian did and win consistently in Sweden and Finland. Also win Pike Peaks in record time. I'd think he wouldn't be disgraced in Group B.
@mikaelbihl-matias94626 жыл бұрын
It would be a sunday ride for Loeb
@chritscher90629 жыл бұрын
Is there an english version?
@Jop3lius9 жыл бұрын
CHRIT SCHER sadly i dont think there is but i might aswell make subtitles for it when i have time edit. apparently there is already subtitles available, click right corner next to clock icon. :)
@bandicoot__4 жыл бұрын
Tekee kipeetä katsoa tätä
@Channel5andhalf11 жыл бұрын
Olikos se just Korsikalla kun kukaan kuljettaja ei halunnut ajaa palkintokorokkeelle kisan jälkeen...
@francescozanarotti37234 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭
@Audiojack_11 жыл бұрын
Ehkä yks huonoimmista käännöksistä (suomeksi) tuossa videolla :D Mutta muuten jees klippi jos ei lue niitä.
@minnat34182 жыл бұрын
Yt: Minna Toivonen
@bigthunder14994 жыл бұрын
39:05 who is she? Somehow i feel like she knows nothing about cars at all.
@Bruh-jr2ep4 жыл бұрын
She was advisory secretary of FISA.
@bigthunder14994 жыл бұрын
@@Bruh-jr2ep ty, didnt know that.
@Bruh-jr2ep4 жыл бұрын
@@bigthunder1499 no prob :)
@GorGob2 жыл бұрын
17:38 is it worth it all
@mainiotaainetta6 ай бұрын
4:43 ominous
@ribaunder11 жыл бұрын
Kuka tämän on suomentanut/teksittänyt? Heti kärkeen väitetään Toivosen olleen maailmanmestari, eikä kauaa mee kun suomennettuna ollaan jo kaksinkertaisia maailmanmestareita. Henkkahan ei maailmanmestaruutta kerinnyt koskaan voittamaan. Tykkään silti videosta, ei siinä mitään.
@JOALDINHO390011 жыл бұрын
YKS MUN IDOLEISTA JA KUNNIOITTAMISTANI MIEHISTÄ
@bldyboiatomic64383 жыл бұрын
Varmaan lopetti kisat kesken tän takia
@juhanahuovinen6 жыл бұрын
in motoracing, fast means that you are able to perform at the same level easily and to realise that you have to be also wise.
@francescozanarotti37234 жыл бұрын
❤
@francescozanarotti37234 жыл бұрын
The Best rally driver ever!!!! Henry + Sergio Rip
@MikkoGibson12 жыл бұрын
Hyvä idea ja tekisen sen jos olisi aikaa, mutta taitaa olla turha homma. Edellinen Vauhdin surma (jonkun toisen lataamana ~2010) taisi olla muutaman kuukaiden Tubessa kunnes se poistettiin. Sinänsä hölmöä kun eihän tätä voi ostaa mistään.
@ristohyvonen99137 жыл бұрын
Mahdollisesti tässäkin löyhkäävä raha puhuu. Esim Martinin tai Lancian suunnalta millaisen kuvan dokumentti heistä antaa. Ei todellakaan kovin kunniallista. Ehkäpä syystäkin.
@thebrummierailenthusiasts53294 жыл бұрын
I think henri toivonens brother and father should definitely in talk in English along with the man who was talking to Henri before he died
@Jop3lius3 жыл бұрын
its finnish document from the 80's, there was no youtube back then and the document wasnt made with international networks in mind.
@037racing12 жыл бұрын
väitänpä kuitenkin että tätä ei tulla poistamaan tällä kertaa.
@SuperA197311 жыл бұрын
Alla fine Henri ci hai rimesso tu,e dopo tutto quello che hai fatto per la Lancia e per lo sport motoristico ti hanno dimenticato in pochissimo tempo,il signor Fiorio non e' neanche venuto al tuo funerale.Vergogna
@waltercrema49824 жыл бұрын
Hai ragione su tutto. Dio boia.
@dusankocisevic68239 ай бұрын
@@waltercrema4982e’ vero🙄🙄
@MikkoGibson11 жыл бұрын
Minä ainakin luen ja varmasti moni muukin.
@ZZombyWooff9 жыл бұрын
6:52 "yes there's a lot of these white kind of pictures" says little man Toivonen.
@MikkoGibson12 жыл бұрын
It's waste of time because this will be removed soon due copyright reasons.
@parabelluminvicta83806 жыл бұрын
well after 6 years video still up. Lancia is legend, Henri is legend.
@dusankocisevic68239 ай бұрын
@@parabelluminvicta8380and after many, many years is still here 🙏🙏🇫🇮🇫🇮
@seidr91472 ай бұрын
11 years running strong
@kariviljanen42868 жыл бұрын
i like mechele and henry
@deggis411 жыл бұрын
Well, 3 months has passed... :p
@adriancifre31074 жыл бұрын
💪💪💚💚🏁🏁💚💚💪💪
@JonsterMonster5 жыл бұрын
Flavio Briatore. Great man ....not !!
@thebrummierailenthusiasts53294 жыл бұрын
42:08 that girl needs to English too
@taekatanahu6353 жыл бұрын
You need a brain so you can turn on the subtitles. You asked your mom to write these comments for you?
@Jonttu87YT8 жыл бұрын
Siis onnettomuudesta
@rhelenius36705 жыл бұрын
ei kyllä voittanut maailman mestaruutta, niin kun tuossa alussa luki...
@jussiuutaniemi37675 жыл бұрын
Joo aina miettiny kans samaa. Tosin valmistajien mestaruus tais tulla kyllä Henkan kohdalla -81 Talbotin kanssa