Vault Hunters HermitCraft: TO CLUTCH OR NOT TO CLUTCH - Behind the scenes

Behind the scenes from the HermitCraft vault hunter series between episode 16 and 17, scavenge with Etho!
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[@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369]

7:50 Etho eats cupcake

[@Bluebird_YT]

Best part of the entire video

[@wombat4191]

Ok, HC VH in 100 days has achieved what it set out to do (and in like only 60 days), time to wrap it up!

[@Roadsteading]

I was here

[@Lookingforthecall]

Someone please explain. I'm new.

[@Roadsteading]

it's timestamped@@Lookingforthecall

[@loszeusgaming2604]

Etho and iskall one of the greediest combo in these series 🗿

[@rocknrage8663]

It is Glorious!

[@bradypaul9231]

They really should just live together let’s be real

[@loszeusgaming2604]

@@bradypaul9231 i just want to see etho like how is this man playing only first time VH still loots like iskall

[@Bob_Smith19]

@@loszeusgaming2604It’s not hard at that level. You can easily kill mobs, your tools are fast and your movement is not only fast but heightened by trinkets.

[@loszeusgaming2604]

@@Bob_Smith19 understandable brother but he picked up the game so well and quickly like there is a thing as avg chests looted more experienced the player more num of chest he loots now compare the stats of etho with majority of other first time players you'll understand why i want to see his pov

[@nicocollado6736]

I love the interactions in this server, its not like you're trying to make content, just having a blast with friends. I'd love to catch you streaming soon, thank you iskall.

[@Trauma284]

This is how all the hermit stuff should be. I'd love an entire season based on interactions. And not mega builds.

[@rentibu1514]

I love Ethos way to keep his old keyboard clean 😂

[@andydirk88]

That had me rolling!

[@togashima30]

Timestamp?

[@bifiao]

The last bit, at around 47:51

[@Bob_Smith19]

He’s mentioned spilling a drink on it a few times over the years.

[@BlahCraft1]

After the reveal that Etho's (not current) headphones were held together with duct tape and his mic stand was a Kleenex both, I'm sadly not surprised that his keyboard is over 20 years old. Edit: also no mouse pad.

[@Emidoh]

Also the fact that he doesn't have a mousepad

[@tekashto]

Maybe the reason he keeps his privacy is because he couldn't bear the thought of anyone seeing his gaming setup. Like he's sparing us from a video of him booting up his Digital8 Handycam to show off how not only his mic, but also the broken keyboard, AND his likely-broken office chair are balanced on kleenex boxes.

[@travisstepan6167]

Came here for this comment :)

[@DaanDeWeerdt]

​@@tekashto If you watch some of Etho's recent videos and he presses F3, you'll see that he's still rocking a pretty old system. I think that's the ultimate proof that you don't need a super expensive system to make content.

[@tekashto]

@@DaanDeWeerdt I adore his vids, but I do think it’s fair to say that he’s demonstrated a habit of keeping things to the point they become a burden to use. Like, he could be so good at parkour and pvp, but I genuinely believe his setup is stopping him

[@AFake_Human]

This really is like Ethos second channel right now! Love it! Would be fun to see Etho on Vault Hunter SMP!

[@vogelvrouw]

Lmao, this year has been great for the etho girlies, so many tango vods with him and now all of these vault Hunters vids

[@tastypopeye_8063]

These kinds of raw videos like this makes me happy. I enjoy the main channel videos too but I enjoy the raw nature of these videos.

[@vogelvrouw]

I sometimes even prefer these

[@zacharyjohnson5419]

i agree!

[@karasugaming_6981]

I was just thinking the same exact thing

[@lauramorgan3241]

Iskall saying the tiebreaker was the best part of HABBA, and that was just an off the cuff idea from Joe! Joe has great ideas I've loved seeing him interacting more with Iskall and his less "usual" hermits. HCVH has been such a fabulous mix up in general. Thanks for all the longform content as always!!

[@mystoken]

love the many etho and iskall collabs in this series!

[@ArkenStorm7]

I'd just like to say, I appreciate the little peek into the programming of Vault Hunters. I'm glad that you and Etho are knowledgeable about that stuff, it's fun to see! Side note: I hate how games don't care about space and efficiency and instead rely on just better hardware , I'm with you Iskall. Bring back the days of OG DOOM that can run on anything with logic gates and is only a couple megabytes! XD

[@Entarra]

While I get what you're saying, plenty of people had to run out and buy new hardware back then to play Doom too, and Quake (which didn't run well on certain processors even)

[@JacksonOwex]

That conversation explained a LOT to me about why Ark is so damn huge!

[@kaklamchow1689]

Oh let’s talk about survival ark evolved it’s a game made for future tech

[@kaklamchow1689]

@@JacksonOwexomg I didn’t read this comment before I commented mine about ark . I didn’t play that game due to such reasons

[@DJBaphomet]

I love the mention of Terraria's data when it comes to compression and code I can assure you, from what I've heard about Terraria's codebase, Red Re-Digit is NEITHER a "readability" or "compression" coder. He is a maniac and I am simply amazed that Terraria functions as well as it does For example: They had to find a workaround for a new paint type (Echo Coating) for 1.4, because the game just couldn't handle a new paint, so instead of being a "paint" Echo Coating is just its own thing that works on top of paint. It is amazing that the game functions like it does and the fact they're still adding more content onto it (final update 1.4.5 trust me bro trust me)

[@oz_jones]

Good ol' frankenbubblegum

[@kshitizjain7889]

Looks like iskall is not the only hermit addicted to vault hunters

[@its-nixverse]

Love these chill videos of Iskall and the hermits hanging out. The moments before and after vault runs have been some of the most fun. The more I learn about Etho's cursed tech set up, the more questions I have. Truly baffling

[@Borkon]

Regarding the jewel storage conversation in the beginning. I liked how rare item data was stored in Diablo 2. They just stored the random generator seed used to generate the item. Something like that could be used for jewels. Seed of the generator used to generate the jewel and then how many times it was cut (where the outcome of every cut is deterministic from the seed).

[@guyinacage]

oooo that's clever!

[@Vanele1]

The question is allways is that possible in minecraft

[@guyinacage]

@@Vanele1 Seeded jewels would be reasonable to implement. Information condensed as deterministic seeds is a very well known coding feature. Obviously there's many examples in Minecraft itself. In this specific use case, the only thing non trivial I can see is deciding when to parse the items from their seed into the expanded format. You could do this for all jewel items as soon as they are loaded, but this could be quite laggy. A better solution might be to wait until the player actually interacts with the item, but if this is the case, there might be a delay before the item's stats are made visible to the player. If the player opens an inventory full of jewels, you might want to have all of the jewels parsed in order to display each with the correct texture image. This might require a slight performance hit upon opening chests and other inventories.

[@Vanele1]

@@guyinacage interesting

[@Vanele1]

@@guyinacage i might have understood this wrong but would this not strongly impact the alr fairly long world generation process?

[@angellynette8258]

I love these type of videos. Just interacting with friends having fun. It’s why team Canada videos are some of my favorites.

[@avishayz6430]

My jaw was on the floor when Etho was saying that he have used the same keyboard for the last 20 years😱

[@houstonisfake]

This behind the scenes is becoming my new favorite series

[@todmustache2884]

With all this talk of pickles and jars, I think it would be neat if there were a bitter pickle vault fruit that spent 15-60 seconds of your vault time, but adds a random (likely) positive modifier or catalyst effect. It could also have a very small chance to curse the vault for trolling purposes.

[@Luke-ox2dc]

This channel has been bringing us the best etho content. I can't believe it hasn't brought in more subs for that reason alone.

[@miniciominiciominicio]

I really enjoy the behind the scenes for the dev commentary that somehow Etho gets so much of and now we do too! But I didn’t need to know Etho’s keyboard is 20 years old 😅 Iskall, this is not okay. No wonder he can’t parkour or PVP. In the last year we have found out the following: * He lacks computer deskspace for his mouse movements. * He lacks a deskpad and a mousepad * He uses a tissue box to hold up his mic * His keyboard is 20 years old I’ve heard you say plenty of times that you don’t buy yourself stuff but Etho is the biggest pennypincher in the world. Are we sure he is not from the Silent Generation with parents who were from the Greatest Generation? Children of the generation that lived through the Dirty 30s and the Great Depression and now are often hoarders nowadays? I get planned obsolesce is The Worst but this is extreme… The fact that he does all he does despite the above is amazing but… why

[@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369]

I knew the wire microphone and no mousepad but like what the heck etho thats such an etho thing lol

[@JacksonOwex]

Most of the people who live through the Great Depression are dead, or dying. People BORN in the 30 are nearly a hundred let alone people who were old enough to remember things from that time!

[@miniciominiciominicio]

Oof yeah I meant to say children of the Great Depression because they're the ones who learned it from their parents. Thank you for the correction.@@JacksonOwex

[@madiaw5553]

+Etho use to use some ancient recording software that often than not corrupt his video as can be seen in the life series where he alway has one episode missing but he switched to obs now

[@Cantrona]

To riff off the "Protect the president" idea, to make sure it's fun for everyone, maybe you could have a limited set of tools. Like for a group of 3, there's one sword, one wooden chest breaker and one other chest breaker and you need to swap tools based on the rooms and who has the best builds to tackle those layouts. That way there's more variety and you can change it up throughout the vault

[@richardtalbot1542]

Spill a drink and the keyboard gets cleaned 😂

[@xgozulx]

Honestly i found my dad's keyboard last week, it has almos 30 years, and is better than my 1 year old keyboard, so I am actually with etho in this one

[@cadeaugh]

I love this style of content and im pretty sure its why I love this series. Cause its just so chill and like youre not "performing for the recording." Like I doubt in a normal video he would talk about code and how vault hunters compresses things. But those little windows are so satisfying to see

[@monatae9725]

I love the relaxed vibes of these BTS videos! So chill, they're perfect for listening to while building my Sky Vaults base. 😊

[@steptimusheap8860]

6:15 I've done lots of terraria modding and the entirety of the game is like this. It's not made well, and i'm sure relogic knows that. It works well enough because it's both 2D and pixelated.

[@vlarse4125]

Maybe a tip for protect president game mode. Maybe have the president have to press a block like in the present cake runs for open the next room. But maybe have some extra modifiers for the president like extra xp, soule shard or item rarity to give incentive to the president to loot. Perhaps the opportunity to elect a president but at the expense of something less item rarity, xp, soule shard or more difficult vault. IDK but is probably gonna be a good game mode

[@kyledearnley3665]

Would love to see etho on the SMP for the next season

[@ozrakami]

omg that last line was the most gamer copium I have ever heard lol

[@ArchfiendRai]

I'd say the Scav turn in station should be able to just take what it needs out of your backpack so you don't keep running into those "it's in my bag!" situations

[@bitblit]

"I like killing things" Iskall says while keeping the slimes alive.

[@Bob_Smith19]

Slimes are friends.

[@miniciominiciominicio]

That’s family though

[@JacksonOwex]

I know it's been said once already but I think the questioning of it means another one is in order: "Slimes are friends"!

[@motherofdraakjes]

I'm a simple girl, I see Etho, I click 😆

[@JacksonOwex]

Me too... wait!

[@nathanpayne3611]

😂 Iskall & Etho debating the philosophy of keyboards at the end!

[@ayushjindal123]

I love these BTS because they are like podcast with Iskall and a guest with Vaulhunters as background ❤

[@adampinder7916]

Love the Iskall and Etho dynamic.. Throw Brry into the mix.. dream vault hunters watching

[@ellethecryptid]

Ello Iskall! Wanted to share some ideas for the next Habba! Team Game: There are 10 players so you could make 5 teams of 2, but you should name the teams after the Vault Gods! Team Idona, Tenos, Velara, Wendarr, and the last one Team Hunters! It would be in theme :) Soul Scav Habba: So, instead of who finishes first, the winner is whoever scavs the best. The winner is determined by the total amount of soul value of each scav item and wether or not they finish their own scav. This way players can debate to loot to get more scav items or to move on and find the items they need to complete the vault. The ultimate “greed is good” competition! (However, you might want to say no vault fruit, so everyone is on the same playing field)

[@woosht4938]

That keyboard is older than me and I’m terrified of it

[@eduardob4107]

7:00 people nowdays mostly program for web so the data manegement is done by frameworks that are already optimised. You can chose readability without a big problem in those cases because PCs today are realy fast. The thing is, when you are making a game like modded MC or soming else that will be resource intensive should be in the mind of the programmer (benchmarking). You don't need to optimise everything, but many games don't care to optmise anything at all and can get laggy real fast.

[@divinatrixdarktide4127]

Iskall, I think our friend XB needs your tutoring on how to properly analyze gear and how crafting potential works as well as what prefixes and suffixes are possible on a given piece. Might help to show him player crafted affixes as well

[@pandatovah]

A really fun extension to protect the president would be to have teams where one person is the "collector", being passive big the only one with a magnet and pouches. The other person is the one that needs to kill mobs, break chests and mine ores.

[@tallywacker0318]

these videos mean so much to me recently man. thanks for the regular uploads!

[@kraken2144]

I love this duo sooo much :))

[@chuckelf3373]

I am a teacher, and at least 40% of my students are English as a Second Language. Sometimes you (Iskall85) seem concerned about your English; please let me assure you that you have a fantastic pronunciation and vocabulary, superior to many native speakers. In my professional experience, I have sometimes pointed out your language skills as an encouragement to my students. Keep it up!

[@Bob_Smith19]

He speaks well but his tone is wrong a lot of times. I realize they’re all friends having a good time but this could cause problems outside of the friend group.

[@tl8202]

"aaah you spill a drink on it once in a while and it washes it off" .... im dead

[@vizlkj8973]

this is the first time i’ve tuned in a behind the scenes video and i have to say i love how chill it is! don’t get me wrong i love your main channel videos but this is like the perfect video to watch while im in bed. Thank you iskall we all appreciate you!!! ❤

[@mitochondriaisthepowerhous6258]

etho playing vault hunters for the first time and greed like iskall! this man!!

[@TheLightLOD]

On the not of compression, "The most amazing achievement of the computer software industry is its continuing cancellation of the steady and staggering gains made by the computer hardware industry. - Henry Petroski" Basically back in the day we compressed because the system would be slow if we didn't, nowadays the systems are so fast we don't see the need to optimize. I hate nowadays, no need to tinker with code for improvements. That's why the moments I run into inefficient problems like dealing with millions of rows of data I'm enjoying myself with optimizing so I don't have to wait minutes but seconds.

[@marcusswingle8627]

@47:10 ethos keyboard and Grians headphones need to be updated!! 😂

[@Ackemaa]

It's really great seeing you and Etho enjoying each other. I don't remember you two doing much together on Hermitcraft. I hope you guys plan more stuff together in the future

[@marcusswingle8627]

Roller coaster typhoon is a legendary program feat in its time.

[@kimdoogleouo4521]

I love watching your uncut stuff

[@spcraftsman2656]

You might want to craft a lot of hunter regret flasks and keep them in a bag or something. Also, remember to include it in an exclusion filter so that the routers don't pull it.

[@Bob_Smith19]

It doesn’t matter if he doesn’t do it before he enters the vault.

[@cjwardill]

"did you know Etho we're changing..." EVERYTHING! 😂😂😂

[@jessechappell2]

Enjoying the behind the scenes. I think you had a mystery box inside your backpack when you were deluding near the end of the video. It's in the top middle section of the bag.

[@garbagedataraccoon]

46:50 Etho has claimed (years ago) that he replaced his keyboard after spilling several drinks on it (despite it still functioning). Oh god, he's still using the Sprite keyboard.

[@garbagedataraccoon]

Sauce: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4LHn36Ket1lfNUm48s

[@garbagedataraccoon]

If Etho ever dares to show his fans any of his other scuffed gadgets, I want his keyboard to be next!

[@JacksonOwex]

​@@garbagedataraccoon Wow, surprised links aren't auto-flagged!

[@lebowskigaming5240]

Hey I’m with Etho on the old keyboard thing. Back in the 90’s I had a trackball mouse, you move a giant ball with your thumb without moving the actual mouse around your desk. It was brilliant! Now there’s lasers, batteries & Bluetooth. Are the new ones better tho? Probably not but they look cooler. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@JacksonOwex]

I HATED using that ball mouse! I just use basic mouse and keyboard, no bells or whistles, well aside from my keyboard being wireless, mouse is USB(at least I'm pretty sure it is).

[@Bob_Smith19]

You either love or hate trackballs. It’s the same thing w/ TrackPoint on Thinkpads.

[@persianwarrior6723]

I love watching the BTS. All the different topics making it so much fun.

[@ye3623]

Hold up hold up hold up. How do you mess up a keyboard within one year? Are you suplexing it? Bashing peole over the head eith it? Dunking it in coffee? Whata going on?

[@peppaj6907]

Have a great holiday!! Ima go back and watch ur old content hehe

[@gyerekecskee]

thank you for providing us with much needed Gojo Satoru content

[@SharpieThunderflare]

Love the old guy programming talk!

[@FunnyBikeFails]

Idea for team competition: two teams do a cake vault and compete who comes further

[@mrfoodarama]

Love that TEch chat with Etho in the beginning.. dang im such a nerd Lol

[@asuhh]

that's why etho loves his frog trinket,,,

[@nathanthebird4625]

Iskall saying “back in my day” while talking about programming sounded exactly like my programming teacher saying that

[@Ayanokoji-0]

BEST DUO KEEP THE GREAT WORK

[@TackerTacker]

47:56 wise words Etho, wise words.

[@_cnk]

I just love watching your videos (:

[@Glitterfart_]

I hope we can see more vault hunters in the future. Even if this "season" ends at some point

[@JacksonOwex]

This is just something for the Hermits to do until they start Season 10. Day 1 they said they were going to do a 100 day challenge(real life days not Minecraft days), and they are at least halfway through the days by now.

[@red5_skywalker]

The last number I heard was 59 days and that was probably a week or two ago ​@@JacksonOwex

[@lenjen3573]

I just love this content

[@joegote]

Those scav clutches must feel soo good.

[@yourxgod9089]

One suggestion for vaults- Take a chestplate and leggings with high health roll and use it as you are running out of time this will give you more hearts to greed and will add more time to your timer. Make the replacement armour with high health and high armour durability can be compromised as it will be used only sometime in a vault. Love from India!!!

[@adamgallin9130]

The best ending of a KZbin video ever 😂

[@Andrew-zc4qo]

When you've finally caught up on all the vault hunters content, 😢 feel sad, then see an iskall bonus ep posted 😮

[@proforce7845]

Etho's keyboard is a year older than me

[@johnpotato001]

Iskall, about your protect the president idea, not sure if commands would allow for that but you could have the person that needs protect be under the fading curse. I think that would be cool.

[@grandkeys430]

Speaking of trapping during the event - if y’all do a monolith vault, someone should hang back at the start of the next one and trap/cover all of the exits/entrances that lead to the first room that leads to the portal room Or if you do a scav any turn in spots you find, trap the entrances to that room

[@seerm1744]

For the protect the pres idea u can have the pres be the only person who can loot so the pres would be encouraged to greed and go fast while the body guards will have to protect them while they spawn a ton of mobs they cant attack. I would also think that at the end itd be cool to have a negotiation phase where if you're in a competition with another group you can negotiate a trade deal.

[@strangepanthers]

20 years...... omg lol

[@renepantelejev7159]

HOLY the counter-strike VIP escort opened some core memories

[@wombat4191]

11:49 Lucky Cry: Am I a joke to you, Iskall?

[@OfficialMageHD]

With the getting comfortable with cleave build, you could make a vault type that your abilities and perhaps even gear isn't brought into the vault, and instead you start with some very basic gear, then as you progress each room you clear some goal for you get a choice out of some random gear or abilities to pick. Similar to those bullet hell roguelikes. As someone that also enjoys just some fun pve I think it'd be a fun addition. Not something you could just randomly get dumped into, I don't think it'd be something fun to run into without knowing. I'm not always a big fan of having the time limit of vaults, so it would be nice to have something like that where it doesn't have a time limit, but instead is just get as far as you can until you decide to leave or end up dying.

[@ethanwells7856]

TWENTY YEARS is an insane amount of time to use the same keyboard

[@Bob_Smith19]

IBM Model M has entered the chat. There’s a reason people love them and they’re still working close to forty years later.

[@EdmansTube2008]

That end bit with Ethos ancient keyboard got me xD I can relate though, I don't have a 20yr keyboard with ps2 connector, but on my old pc at my parents' I have a 10ish ye board I bought for 40ish euros. I do enjoy the new one I got in my apartment though xP

[@Trauma284]

I keep seeing iskall's HP bar and how he only has 13 hearts. And im like HOW at lvl 60+ and then i realize. Its an armor build andhe barely tales a heart on a hit. Its crazy.

[@peppaj6907]

I cant wait for you to run catalyst vaults, its been so long

[@jpeglightnin]

That keyboard has seen some things

[@aminus2118]

I was so worried that Iskall would died at the end of the Scav Vault: Dashing into the wall.

[@Starhunter1975]

Ok. Anyone out there with a 20 year old keyboard with the space bar still working? Etho needs one. The man doesn’t upgrade until the glue doesn’t work anymore. I get that. I like to do the same. 1980s plastic was the best. That stuff never broke. Maybe we can find Etho a keyboard from then?

[@fizzle7421]

Does the transition away from compression have anything to do with how many platforms there are? Components, maybe? Just curious because i have no idea. That was an interesting topic

[@jacobvs9468]

We love ya iskall:)

[@TSS161]

man, I wish Etho streamed

[@Madchef8u]

“Back in my day..” “You spill a drink on it every now and then and it rinses off” Pure comic genius. Did you code a Commodore 64 in your youth? Old man/child flex :P

[@thod-thod]

I’ve found that having enough speed levels means that wings are no longer needed and another blue trinket can be used

[@Bob_Smith19]

Wings still help greatly. Speed 4 is great but not nearly as fast as flying around to see what the POIs are. You’re also going to incur fall damage when going from top to bottom.

[@JacksonOwex]

@@Bob_Smith19 MLG bucket or Stonefall take care of that though

[@omariboyd2737]

I just hit level 65 and went to the mines. It had me shook for moment but I just kept rolling.

[@TerraCm13]

2 dudes being bros

[@williamwood6916]

Anyone else notice as they finished talking about chest scrolls iskall instantly got one and didn't noticed

[@galejo92]

To add into the idea of the protect the president vaults, maybe they can’t use sword or axes, but spells are fine. That way they wouldn’t just be standing around waiting for their allies to clear mobs or helplessly hiding

[@JacksonOwex]

They can be looting while others have drawn the mobs.

[@RyanEglitis]

Etho's right, they don't make 'em like they used to. I just bought a "new" 20-year-old keyboard.

[@batt3ryac1d]

Damn Brokeskall you gotta run some coin vaults

[@JacksonOwex]

Meh, just needs to get some wealthy catas and some Pirate inscriptions, then he'll be set... for a couple pieces of gear at least!