BRITAIN IS A DEAD COUNTRY

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[@7000_Skeletons]

Tories asking why the UK is so shit after they've been in power for almost 15 years

[@wumpyjumps]

Same question asked by their media lackies and people outside the UK looking in. They'll act like it's some inevitable thing when it's clearly the result of a decade of austerity.

[@derpgeez]

Conservative playbook consists of two rules: 1. Complaining about problems that they caused And 2. Creating more problems which they can complain about in the future.

[@tazgecko]

@@derpgeez And 3. Things will get better in the future if we stay in power.

[@slackershrub8923]

Let's not act like the Labour party is any better

[@Scroteydada]

Ooh ooh is it because the tories have antagonised the very idea of trade relations?

[@artistcomplex]

I work two jobs in the UK. The problems I'm facing weren't caused by people calling in sick with fake covid notes, immigrants not being sent to Rwanda, or transpeople in sports. It was caused by an inept government crashing ALL our EU trade agreements, then massively underfunding public services for a decade while cashing in any public assets to private companies and stashing the bribes in tax havens. All while building up a economy that relies on housing as proof of assets, dispite 80% of the population haveing no real way into this market. This government has left me poorer, with less rights and access to healthcare. And now has the gaul to tell me its someone else's problem.

[@Sothalic]

For a moment I thought I was reading about what's going on in Canada, this is a blueprint that's being repeated over and over worldwide.

[@gorbachevspizzahut2809]

one hubdred percent permanent proof of adress for most can be difficult especially if you are just starting out or homeless, phone number and insurance number should be enough these days

[@dragonicdoom3772]

RIGHT!? They're seriously trying to gaslight us into thinking the country is shit because of migrants or trans people and not, ya know, the people who've been steering the wheel for nearly 15 years!

[@HierophanticRose]

I keep saying this when all is said and done in history long in the future this period will be know as "Era of Unfit Ministers"

[@EmyN]

Is it “gall” or “gaul”? Side note

[@insidespin2698]

Got to love the way his tone is meant to convey empathy while he attempts to ruin the lives of millions of people.

[@Tabacish]

The usual AI tory human-like robot...

[@silviuvisan505]

He studied Machiavelli.

[@LiLLaLa707]

To me it sounds more condescending than empathetic but millionaires usually give me that vibe lol

[@darkworldkrisdreemurr]

He sounds like a voiceover or like Joo Dee from atla

[@hayleyxyz]

He is incapable of interacting with normal people. He once asked a homeless person while trying a photo-op if they worked in business. The guy just straight said "no. I'm homeless. I usually say he talks like a children's TV presenter.

[@chrisclarkvideos1969]

I like it when people who have never worked talk about work. Like priests giving marriage advice.

[@zagreus5773]

Are you talking about Sunak or Vaush?

[@chrisclarkvideos1969]

@@zagreus5773 Sunak.

[@v0id_d3m0n]

honestly makes me feel sick

[@StratsRUs]

​@@zagreus5773It's close !

[@7000_Skeletons]

Most companies will just let you have a day off if you call in sick. The Tories are just scapegoating their failures by blaming the working class again

[@little_flitter]

Yeah, the ones who will be the most hurt by this - the disabled who legitimately need those notes in order to get disability support (what little there is). or the working class in bigger institutions/ coorporations etc that don't let their workers have time off. :=

[@nixien1496]

I work at the basketcase company thames water, It's in theory a simple as you call in sick... in practice they will try to get you to attend a meeting and ask you to provide GP notes and such to "proove" how sick you were. If your off for more than 2-3 days. Honestly doing away with GP sick notes is a good thing as it's nearly impossible to see a GP in this country. So I can just tell them to shove it now.

[@names_are_useless]

> Most companies will just let you have a day off if you call in sick. Here in the US, I've seen too many companies (particularly for low-wage workers) bully them into working even when sick. The Libertarian philosophy means no oversight. On the other hand, the UK has oversight but has rapidly been stripped away.

[@RudeGamer1988]

@@nixien1496 tbf you can tell them to shove it at 2-3 days anyway the law is 7 days self certificate.

[@hayleyxyz]

>decimate NHS >people get long term sick >pikachuface.jpg

[@tomlxyz]

I wonder how long it takes until the UK government takes out the universal from universal healthcare

[@Para2normal]

Sunak's wife was Non-Domiciled in the UK until there was a huge outcry, this meant she didn't pay the highest rate of UK taxation despite having material assets of over £700 million, and yet he dares lecture us.

[@silviuvisan505]

The tax evading billionaire classic.

[@hayleyxyz]

Tbh do we know if she actually is paying taxes now? She said she would, but did anyone actually check? Not that it matters, she'll go right back to being non dom when the Tories get wiped out anyway

[@chimsuaumo]

I'd be the most surprised I could ever be if it turned out she actually paid any tax.

[@sairamsriram]

You're NOT into minimizing the taxes you pay?

[@Para2normal]

@@sairamsriram The vast majority of people in the UK have little option, tax evasion is almost completely the territory of the self employed or the rich. Every time rationalising tax laws get mentioned our idiotic media throw a tantrum, forgetting that the majority of their readers would be unaffected.

[@marthancrowl1674]

“We need to stop moving people from work, to welfare.” Sounds like Ben Shapiro wanting to abolish retirement.

[@FelisImpurrator]

And note that he never, ever mentions a "why". He makes these sweeping moral claims and not once does he spend a second justifying them.

[@firemaster2229]

@@FelisImpurrator I think he did justify them by saying something like "People should stop depending upon the state and be able to live by themselves" or something along those lines. Great excuse. 10/10.

[@FelisImpurrator]

@@firemaster2229 That's the point. No he didn't. Those are should-statements. WHY should people do that? The answer, of course, is because he's a fascist wealth hoarder who lives by and for cruelty. There is no real moral argument. The world is the way it is because it is; the world must be the way it must be because it must be.

[@FelisImpurrator]

@@firemaster2229 No he didn't. Those are "should" statements. Those are claims. He would have to justify those in order to have an argument. It isn't inherently moral to work or "be productive".

[@firemaster2229]

@@FelisImpurrator Oh ok. I see. Thx for telling me.

[@seantyson6021]

One thing I'll add, being from the UK. Companies ALREADY have discretion about sickness policy and have a million routes to ignore sick notes or demand people coming in for several days before a sick note is necessary and working someone into needing the note then clamping down on how long they accept that note as an acceptable excuse for not coming in and infecting everyone or working yourself into further illness. It's not like he's making a good thing into a bad thing. He's making something already awful even worse.

[@hillbillypowpow]

It's very brave of you to admit that, but we'll forgive you for being from the UK

[@Canadian_Princess]

That's genuinely insane. Also par for the course for the Torries. Making an awful thing even worse.

[@Nerobyrne]

If that happened in Germany, the company would get sued by the employees for making everyone catch a contageous disease, which they knew about. On top of it literally being entirely illegal to call in people once they've called in sick, even WITHOUT a note.

[@geedee1264]

@@Nerobyrne way too much of a financial and political power imbalance between the big companies and the employees now, a suit would just bankrupt you probably and it would be delayed in perpetual

[@pedro-pascals-armpit]

and finally it's possible to get your Attest digitally too lmao we are conquering the Neuland ​@@Nerobyrne

[@Threxis]

As a native Englishman i agree that Britain is a dead country. I just hope something worse doesn't rise from its ashes.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

I’m genuinely considering moving to Scotland.

[@agentzapdos4960]

It will. Things will only ever get worse.

[@ScoopMeisterGeneral]

If you're an Englishman then you should know that Britain isn't actually a country.

[@piccalillipit9211]

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated I live in Bulgaria - 300 days of sunshine, an apartment for as little as £10k or £150 rent. 2 Gbps fibre broadband so you can work internationally, 500% increase in wages since 2000.

[@piccalillipit9211]

*IM BRITISH AND I H4T3 VAUSH's PATHOLOGICAL DISLIKE OF BRITAIN* but the UK is a dead country - which is why I no longer live there Vaush is unable to be objective and he knows very little about the UK - but on this point - that the UK is a DEAD country - he is 100% correct.

[@c.m.9369]

Always love it when people who grew up rich tell the rest of the people that they have to develop better work ethics…

[@FelisImpurrator]

Scolding people for their work ethic is and has always been a way to control the poor. That's all it is.

[@foxesofautumn]

That Victorian protestant idea of poverty being an indicator of moral decay (and not governmental mismanagement and a lack of good options) has never left us.

[@lagmeister3215]

Brexit has honestly broken UK politics. It’s been disastrous in all aspects of the country but the Journalist and Political class seem to forget that it even exists. And the “stiff upper lip” attitude means that there is little push back. It’s Taboo to even bring up at all

[@BooksAndShitButNotLiterally]

Not just Brexit, the media, especially the likes of the Daily Mail

[@blauewaffel1469]

Nah 2008 broke UK politics. That is what drove Boomers and the uneducated towards voting Tory and sucking on the austerity log for years because 'Labour crashed the economy' (they didn't, they actually saved it and Britain was a healthier economy then than now). It's also what put Tories into defence mode to protect the interests of bankers and hedge funds AT ALL COSTS.

[@nathaniellindner313]

Polling is generally hard to go off of, but in the UK’s case the polls all clearly indicate the public wants to lock all the Tory MPs in the House of Commons with a running double decker red bus until the pounding on the doors fades, so the Conservatives have opted to destroy the country before they lose power later this year, out of spite

[@larryc1616]

EU don't want troublemaker and entitled UK back

[@tomatopotato4229]

As a German, I really disliked the UKs influence in the EU. The constant pushback, braking and conservatism. But I'd welcome the british people back immediately. Even with the special discounts Thatcher haggled for them.

[@Sapioso]

History repeating itself in the age of information is insane.

[@user-we8lj6us9n]

Age of information sadly isn't the same thing as Age of education :(

[@piccoloatburgerking]

People will always be stupid no matter what age it is.

[@hillbillypowpow]

In the age of 3d printed improvised firearms no less

[@damjanp7920]

@@user-we8lj6us9n soon to be known as the age of chatgpt education

[@piccoloatburgerking]

Ages keep rolling by but people stay the same.

[@NihilusAeturnum]

We gonna be seeing "Work will set you free" signs soon enough if Capitalists keep this up

[@MrNanomonkey]

The Universal Credit slogan “Work pays” reminds me of that

[@drraventlwml]

capitalism in decay etc etc

[@leunam3004]

Welcome to 21th centurie. Best we can do are reruns from the 20th. Such as: Plage like diseases, economic decline, the cold war, fascism, Disney movies and much more. Now all in high definition!

[@midorimashintaro2092]

Well that sign was put up as an ironic joke on the prisoners because nothing they could do would actually set them free. Fulfilling work does in fact set you free.

[@FelisImpurrator]

@@midorimashintaro2092 You're going to have to elaborate.

[@qantj]

He acts like he is only talking about Universal Credit (Basically unemployment benefits) but then repeatedly name drops Personal Independence Payments that are for people with permanent physical or mental disabilities so they can afford support and he's even talking about getting rid of that... Also "We want to make it easier to access" my ass! They keep making it harder each year

[@sortascouseace]

I love how my country allows a rich dude who has never worked a day in his life, whose priminister pay is a drop in an ocean compared to how much money he already gets from other interests decide what is fair for workers.

[@NMahon]

The UK always has though? Posh upper class boys have always ruled britain

[@sortascouseace]

@@NMahon that's the point

[@unvergebeneid]

Gotta love how Britain botches their COVID response, then makes a surprised Pikachu face when they have more long COVID.

[@tom5505]

Austerity measures have been in place since 2008 - not only did that get botched, we were uniquely vulnerable to begin with This is the direct, predicted result of 2008 and the Tory response to it

[@ac4941]

The 1918 flu causing increased rates of disability is a large part of why Nazis focused on exterminating disabled people. History repeats

[@verager2493]

Imagine having universal healthcare and fucking it up worse than the US. Dying country

[@unvergebeneid]

@@verager2493 I mean, the COVID response had very little to do with the healthcare system. The healthcare system is important for providing good data for your decisions and to deal with the fallout of your decisions but it doesn't really do anything to make good policy happen somehow.

[@gemmapeter7173]

Covid also took out many NHS workers, it was particularly obvious the government didn't care after the "clap for the NHS" coming with no payrises and leading to strikes. That caused many people to leave and hindered dealing with waiting lists.

[@Fenikagegami]

“We MUST stop people from going from Work to Welfare.” I guess retirement shouldn’t be a thing huh Britain.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

When a white person does it, they're an expat.

[@almisami]

Governments the world over are now considering retirement a very bad thing.

[@FrenkieWest32]

retirement is not welfare in the context

[@julesdalli9716]

Should we also get rid of disability pensions? I think those are kind of important.

[@thelouster5815]

@@almisamiBecause corporations the world over are realizing the Boomers are getting old and realize lobbying for no more retirement is cheaper than giving people retirement.

[@Grace-tg4oy]

The "over medication" bit felt more like "any medication." Like if you went to the doctor and said you were sleeping 20 hours a day, they would be like "Tough shit, go back to work."

[@glasszeraki9195]

Gotta keep up with the Asian work ethic, amirite?

[@duckpotat9818]

@@glasszeraki9195 without the low crime rate, public infrastructure, healthy food and good healthcare

[@FloatingErgonaut]

Sunak's father-in-law literally said the youth in India should work 70 hours a week lol

[@FelisImpurrator]

@@glasszeraki9195 Seems more like the Protestant work ethic to me, because at least the Japanese get things built. Country's still dying because that's what happens when conservatism and brutal work culture squeeze people dry, but at least they have nice vending machines and all. The UK, not so much.

[@tomlxyz]

​@@FelisImpurratortheir nice vending machines only exist because they don't have the time to get food normally. It looks nice from the outside but it's just part of squeezing more out of workers

[@anderssorenson9998]

I know an englishman who's a double amputee, he also has severe respiratory problems from a substandard gas mask he was issued, and this shit still applies. Make no mistake if the could make it legal they would euthanize every cripple. The guy traded his legs and lungs to the british army and this is his pension. Sunak is the richest man to ever lead their country, and no he doesn't pay his share.

[@HarpreetSingh-kj8ro]

Sunak is a disgrace to the Tories. I voted for Boris last time vs that old Tankie Corbyn. The immigration policy been out of control.

[@mallardofmodernia8092]

​@@HarpreetSingh-kj8rodelusional... convenient that you leave out austerity and corruption. Always blame the migrants...

[@HarpreetSingh-kj8ro]

@@mallardofmodernia8092 more migrants mean higher taxes, less freedoms, and higher cost of living

[@mallardofmodernia8092]

@@HarpreetSingh-kj8ro you got a source for that? Currently its the tories that are raising taxes for the working class whilst allowing the very rich to get away with tax evasion (trickle down economics under Hunt, Truss, Sunak), and its currently the tories passing anti protest, anti free speech and anti LGBTQ legislation seen with the police powers given after BLM, JSO and anti lockdown protests, increased powers given to cyber crime units who have arrested or questioned people over JOKES and current attempts to restrict trans healthcare. Past waves of migration have integrated and have just as wide a political sphere as native born seen in the fact that Rishi is in the tory party whilst Sadiq Khan is labour. Its also the tories who have been in charge of the economy for the past 14 years with all their culture war and anti immigrant nonsense and yet cost of living is still rising.

[@courtneyisaseagull]

​@@HarpreetSingh-kj8roWrong.

[@memebump7612]

I'm terrified. I'm a UK citizen who is disabled, but because our benefit system, I was forced to travel, which is hard for me, to a "health assessment" where they lied about the whole thing to deny me disability benefits. I have an autonomic disorder which is so debilitating I'm frequently scared I'm actually close to death and I cant work because of it. If they take what little I do get away from me, i will actually die a slow horrible death on the streets because i don't think i have what it takes to kill myself.

[@geedee1264]

They'll drop a pen and ask you to pick it up so they can say you're fit and able if you can pick up that pen 😂😂 sick note is right

[@qantj]

Yeah my assessor lied about my health assessment meeting too, what's even the point of it

[@Anonymous-54545]

@@geedee1264they really do do stuff like that in the US. They hire private investigators to stalk ppl online and see if they can find pics of you standing up, outside, etc. They tape the whole parking lots etc near the place where you go to the assessment and try to use tapes of yr supposed good mobility to say you faked it at the appt. It's terrifying.

[@gordonstrong5232]

Don't worry, the tories will be voted out in months, Labour won't allow these draconian measures.

[@HarryDirtay]

​@@gordonstrong5232nah, the tories will just say "Labor guy is antisemitic" with no evidence, like last time and people will vote tory again😂

[@bobnotbobff]

I got a letter from DWP saying we aren't going to give you money because you don't want to look after yourself, I appealed and got it sorted and got more money. The irony is a got an offer for an interview at a post production house the day after and was too stressed on the phone that I said sorry not now, like I'm trying to get work I don't need the government to micromanaging my disability and work, I am on it

[@ratto9508]

I have so many chronic illnesses. The thought of being forced to find work when I barely have the energy to get out of bed and read a book is terrifying. They want to kill me.

[@Mr.scooter-le8yo]

Pretty much

[@Necrophadez]

Shame, there seems to me no real communities online where the vulnerable can talk and unite.

[@jernaugurgeh451]

@@Necrophadez We have no energy left after 14 years of austerity and attacks. I hate the Tories with every fibre of my being, and my loathing of them has only increased since my political awakening in my early teens when Thatcher set about dismantling working class solidarity with the miners in the early ‘80s, then privatising and deregulating everything… including social housing, one of the worst things t they could’ve done. They were wrong about that, and are always wrong about everything, absolutely everything.

[@Necrophadez]

@@jernaugurgeh451 Do you think there is hope to get rid of the tories?

[@accesscrimea]

So sorry to hear this. WHat illnesses do you have? My wife has tarlov cyst disease and PPMS.

[@LucyBean42]

I'm presently out of work on disability for a spinal injury. Sunak is such a sleaze, his stupid argument is 6% of "well notes" said they could be back on partial work... but if you're out of work more than 7 days, something is SERIOUSLY WRONG and needs real treatment. Forcing injured people back to work immediately just guarantees their injuries turn to real disabilities. If I had to go back to work 9 hours a week with a spinal injury, it would almost guarantee it won't heal and I'll have to get surgery.

[@SuperJJParker]

He isn't talking about you. I work in manufacturing doing 12 hour shifts. Most of the people that go out sick at my place aren't sick. They just want time off. If this new policy prevents these people from milking time off and making my job harder by forcing me to work short-handed, then I welcome it.

[@onaraisedbeach]

Sunak saw the film I, Daniel Blake and thought yes, that is the society I want to create but more hardcore. Vaush you're not exaggerating by comparing it to Nazi policies - Tory anti-disability policies have already killed tens of thousands of innocent, profoundly struggling people, including driving countless to suicide. Absolute monster, and he'll never face any consequences for it because he's obscenely rich.

[@jimbowers8278]

"For at that date Hitler was still respectable. He had crushed the German labour movement, and for that the property-owning classes were willing to forgive him almost anything. Both Left and Right concurred in the very shallow notion that National Socialism was merely a version of Conservatism." -- George Orwell, 1940.

[@marygem]

Sunak is a multimillionaire.

[@geedee1264]

He's not Tory rich, that's ordinary multimillionaire, he's absolutely mega rich , multimultimultimillionaire feet have never touched the ground rich

[@Rebellescum]

his wifes family are billionares

[@kellyvaters1689]

That fucker is richer than the Royal Family.

[@AroAceGamer]

He's about as rich as the King, if not richer.

[@alansmith4655]

He's a billionaire.

[@JackMellor498]

When Sunak says “If you can you should” what he really means is “If you’re living and breathing you should be working, regardless of how crippled you are, depressed you are, suffering from mental health problems, we’re too lazy and inhuman to consider those as factors for why you people aren’t working, you’ll work until you drop and be happy about it!”

[@glasszeraki9195]

And I do not understand WHY they believe that…I mean, what do they have to gain? Is it just about money? Is it about power? Do they just want to be able to have a work culture similar to Japans or Koreas so they can brag about it? Or is it that a work culture like Japan’s that produces large amounts of capital and products is what global power comes down to? Idk, I am literally unsure what the point of a world like that is.

[@frixosfriedman7813]

Their definition of sick is 'unable to work'. Is that really what it means?

[@FrenkieWest32]

@@glasszeraki9195 it's what their voters and other platforms want, obviously..

[@FrenkieWest32]

I'm not exactly a fan of rich privileged elite like fing Sunak, but trying to motivate people to work is a good thing, be it in totally different ways than what the tories want.

[@courtneyisaseagull]

​@@FrenkieWest32Go away, troll.

[@nekomono]

I hate the smug little grin he has as he talks about pushing people into unimaginable poverty

[@MostBever]

Maybe if the rich wasn't so money dependant they didn't need workers working all the time

[@qantj]

Yup, they need to learn to live within their limits and stop relying on the money made by the proletariat

[@thaenaa]

dead in 31 seconds british empire fell off

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

This isn't funny any more

[@sigmascrub]

​@@thewhitefalcon8539your mom's not funny anymore

[@justsomeguy335]

They are just being sustained by the remnants of their colonial looting of Africa and Asia at this point 😂

[@SuperPal-tr3go]

@@sigmascrub Got him bro!

[@HugoRBMarques]

Fell off + L + ratio

[@Saliferous]

"people aren't sicker than they used to be".... I mean (gestures at the pollution on the planet), You sure about that?

[@Metallijosh100]

(gestures at climate change) (gestures at COVID) (gestures at declining mental health in the cost of living crisis) (gestures at increased corporate pollution in the UK's rivers) Must be the poors being lazy.

[@SparoTheSpider]

You don't even have to go that far. Covid hit 4 years ago.

[@leonzchannelz]

Idk chief the previous generations had to deal with large amounts of lead in the atmosphere

[@JackMellor498]

Pray for us, I’ll remind everyone though that us Brits as people, are actually quite open and supportive of progressive values, we largely support for instance renationalisation of key utilities, policies to tackle climate change, when polled the British are the biggest supporters of green policies in Europe. Our government does not. They do not represent us. On the behalf of all Brits, they do not represent us.

[@mrgamechanger97]

Outside of the Russian obsession with strongman leaders I think most ppl don't blame the people for their politicians. We all know the options on the table are often far worse than those we are never allowed to pick for ourselves. When it comes to image problems for the population of England, you guys have TERF and monarchy obsession problems that are tainting international perception.

[@blauewaffel1469]

​@@mrgamechanger97 TERFs and the monarchy are perception problems for chronically online Leftists, not the world at large. The big perception problem is still class. That Brits are either snooty gentlemen in top hats or knuckle dragging loud trogs that ruin every European holiday spot. The fundamental illness that our country has is that the rigid class stratification has created a system where the state is run by appointed incompetents from the ruling class who run the country solely in the interests of asset strippers and hedge funds (even at the expense of houseowners and pensioners - their key voters! Yes they are this stupid and self-destructive). Because of FPTP and Parliamentary majority, once they have conned their way into winning an election, they forget about their manifesto and just do what they want with impunity for five years. Nothing that Rishi Sunak has done lately has any public mandate.

[@billhicks8]

​@@mrgamechanger97those problems are in fact completely obscuring it. While we do have a shitty and self interested upper middle class here, there is an enormous portion of the population who just want to see Britain become an ordinary, progressive country like the rest of Europe. This is a very weird time for us, as the government and two party system seem almost like they're from an entirely different dimension now, speaking and acting in ways appalling to everyone

[@foxesofautumn]

I don't think anyone sees Sunak as a voice of the people. He's so out of touch he's invoking actual Nazi policy by accident. He's scapegoating the average Brit in the street, as Tories love to do, because it's much easier to divert the blame to the most vulnerable. "I mean if they didn't want to be on the street why would they fancy about being so unemployable and sickly?" (Also great to see a non-doctor decide who is well enough to work because he is so qualified to do that.) The scary thing is it sort sellable as an idea if you don't understand macro-economics. "Oh, we pay people to sit around at home? That's bad." It's not, though. That money stays in the economy and circulates. People at home pay to live and eat for power etc. They give socially too. They give more than Rishi-taxoffsetfordays-Sunak. Also, 100% employment is actually unworkable. Sunak studied economics at Oxford. He KNOWS this. His sleazy ideology overrules all other considerations and, you know, basic human empathy.

[@Rahab369]

@@mrgamechanger97 "you guys have TERF and monarchy obsession problems that are tainting international perception." Literally no other country besides America cares about this. And even then it's only the American Left. And it's not even true. The majority of the population are either trans positive or neutral, and only the super old people actually care about the royals. I'd argue the constant dehumanisation, stereotyping and frankly historical revisionism towards us is doing far more to damage perceptions of Britain worldwide. Like, there's no question that the Republicans don't represent the American people, yet for some reason whenever our government does something bad people, especially here in this community, act as if every single person in Britain was personally asked and agreed to that decision.

[@Chris-jg3km]

Stop being so right about my country Vaush

[@liberalbias4462]

Dawg I feel bad for you. And that's coming from an American.

[@andressotil4671]

That's very pants innit

[@thenewguyinred]

It sure does stinks when he’s right.

[@anthonyrowland9072]

@@liberalbias4462 Sometimes Vaush lets his anti br*tishness get to him. In no way are they worse than places like Mississippi. He's basically never left the west coast.

[@silviuvisan505]

Nice hat milord

[@BedriddenFire]

Another disabled person here. One thing people don't understand is that they think because accessibility and accommodations services exist that means there must be disabled individuals who aren't participating in using them in order to work. But in actuality these services are underdeveloped, barely usable, and sometimes aren't even physically accessible to a large portion of people with disabilities. Ask someone to specifically talk about any of these programs and it reveals how little they know. I would GLADLY work if I could, I would GLADLY continue education if I could afford it, and have been trying to develop some kind of career so I can get OFF government assistance. Physically I need help making meals, I need assistance for grocery shopping and transportation. I can only manage showering every couple of days. The problem isn't people with disabilities. It's that humans are not treating disabilities as a normal part of being human. It is literally the most human thing. It's NEVER going away. And instead of designing society; work, education, transportation, even social events around it and embracing it as a part of the human experience, people see it as an outlier rather than a regular occurring inevitability. If they want people with long term sickness and disabilities to have jobs, they should put effort into figuring out realistic ways to give people with long term sickness and disabilities jobs. Not doing so- only creates more disabilities. But AGAIN. Ask anyone one to describe these work programs in specifics and they can't do it. They really only have a vague idea of how they work, and basically just point to the fact they exist. The only people who actually understand them and know how terrifyingly FLIMSY they are, are people with disabilities, occasionally family members, and disabilities advocates. It's like ordering someone to travel across a country but giving them a razor scooter instead of a car, and then berating them for not going fast enough or far enough. We are not the problem. At all. It's not people with disabilities who are "refusing" to adapt.

[@CrownedFalcon00]

As much as the US is a blighted hellscape, the US has some of the most robust disability protections in the world. That is my only fear as someone with CD and ADHD moving abroad. The disability protections in the US are far from perfect, but if everywhere else is worse, then I don't want to even think about how difficult my life could be

[@RayQuenched]

It's so nice to hear about the importance of hard work from someone who earns the national average annual wage passively during his morning shit.

[@Fredric_Cedrich]

Landlords are economically inactive.

[@zonikmike7707]

No! You see... economic productivity is about abstract quantities! Not commodity or service production.

[@s.p.1434]

Can't help but notice he never mentioned anything about forcing employers to *actually* comply with making their workplace more accommodating to someone with disabilities, or anything about preventing employers from taking advantage of those who are disabled by paying them less.

[@piccoloatburgerking]

I kinda feel bad for britain tbh. I mean it's bad everywhere but britain is just so depressing to look at now.

[@wumpyjumps]

It's not even that it is necessarily the worst in the world, but it does feel the most depressing. Maybe it's because so much focus and power is on institutions that aren't on the path to fixing anything. Also people will ignore institutions and blame ordinary people which makes people think it's their fault and it's inevitable and justified, even if they aren't really. Mind you it's probably most depressing for me cos I live here

[@Nerobyrne]

Brexit was a great idea with absolutely no negative consequences 👍

[@trevfindley5704]

​@@wumpyjumps agreed. Living here, I find the ubiquity of tabloid fuelled antagonism towards anything remotely progressive is just so dispiriting, although I guess that's not too different to the states...

[@JasonBoyce]

Britain did it to itself. Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland need to ditch England to save themselves.

[@luiginotcool]

@@JasonBoycethe tories did it to England

[@maskofsan1ty]

As a brit I used to watch American politics to cheer me up. Americans now do that for the UK. We're so fucked here.

[@damedusa5107]

Really? They seem to misrepresent and not understand any of the subject matter. Vaush here is badly misinformed

[@leikfroakies]

Fucking bullshit. America is so much worse than us. Stop buying into Vaush's doomerism

[@dannynaylor5485]

I still do,, it's so funny watching both sides going crazy 😂

[@HarryDirtay]

​@@damedusa5107we all watched brexit happen. Stop hitting yourselves😂

[@damedusa5107]

@@HarryDirtay this isn’t about Brexit. Why mention that? Nothing in EU law would have any baring on this statement

[@blandoatmeal1273]

I can't stand the saccharin voice he puts on when he's talking to the public, like 'listen to my tone it's clear I care deeply about you while what I'm saying is I hate you'

[@daraghokane4236]

After Brexit London wanted to break away from England and became it's own country they should.

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

Based, bring back city states.

[@purplepedantry]

The Polis of London sounds fun. Maybe it could take in Oxford & Kent for a bit of flavour.

[@davidd.6448]

@@purplepedantry Brighton too

[@WhisperingWhatever]

The Combined United Nations and Territories of Southerners.

[@purplepedantry]

@@davidd.6448 The KZbinrs will be fun to have, and the income would be useful! Also the clowns. They're fun.

[@Yilue]

Anyone got a plane ticket? But on a serious note I'm genuinely scared for my future here espicially as a transwoman. When I hear Rishi talk I cannot help but actually here a villian. Something about the way he talks sounds evil.

[@phoebegee54]

The way he seems so confident that his views on transgender people are shared by the majority is a bit upsetting

[@ChristinaGXL]

It's the words he says and the ways he says them. He literally just is a villain.

[@billhicks8]

it's because he's still talking with that condescending,big brother, all-in-this-together cuddly inflection, while describing prohibitive policies that we all know imply enormous amounts of suffering for ordinary people. We who have lived here a while are trained on this. We knew it when we heard David Cameron, when we heard Liz Truss, and now this guy. It is the tone of sociopathic vindictiveness unique to modern Toryism.

[@foxesofautumn]

@BBeard24 I hope so. Britain can't take another round of this madness.

[@DivinesLegacy]

@@phoebegee54I’d suggest you go outside and talk to people. Most people don’t support the trans thing.

[@maynardwayward12]

Here's one thing I never want to hear, a politician weighing in with their medical opinions

[@trashpanda3544]

Tories act as if people are getting PIP because they have mild anxiety. They have no idea just how insanely difficult it is to get disability benefits as is let alone after whatever Rishi fucknut decides to do. I've seen so many people saying that the majority of people on benefits are just gaining to system. I wish it was that easy. I've been on PIP since i was 19 for numerous things. Brain tumours, autism, bpd, severe depression, chronic back pain, chronic migranes after brain surgery, pernicious anaemia, pcos. It took me 3 years for them to accept my application. And every single fucking year after my health care review they come up with some dogshit reason to stop my pip. And every fucking year it takes months to fight it. Last time they stopped my payments is because i mentioned off handedly that i THANKED MY NEIGHBOUR for takimg the bins out for me. They said it was proof im sociable and that my mental health can't be that bad if I'm talking to people. My dad lost a leg to diabetes and they stopped his payments because he drank water from a bottle during the review, stating that he can clearly look after himself because he can open a bottle. The DWP is a fucking circus and honestly if anyone is able to bullshit their way into getting payments then let them have it because they've clearly worked hard on the act. I've known of people with terminal cancer who had their payments stopped.

[@Venjur40]

When the fundamental goal of living is working, what is the point of living?

[@glasszeraki9195]

“Why are the population numbers going down??”

[@FrenkieWest32]

how privileged are you to say that? The point of living is not being dead on it's most fundamental level.

[@jacobs2099]

​@@FrenkieWest32 By that logic slaves are privileged because they get enough food and shelter to survive. Imagine literally defending a class of parasitic aristocrats who have never contributed anything to society.

[@foxesofautumn]

@@FrenkieWest32 Even that is empty. "The people of living is existing" No, even flies have a purpose beyond just being here.

[@DrHotWarLove]

The Tories couldn't have picked Alicia Kearns? Pro-Trans, sympathetic to Palestinians, former Amnesty International activist? I might have just answered my own question.

[@jcleaverchamberlinjr]

Nope....CULTURE WARS, BABY!

[@mursuka80]

I am wondering if she has those beliefs how is she a Tory though?

[@BA-bh7pf]

She's my local MP. She is far too new and won't pass muster with Tory party members for the points you listed. And a relatively decent Tory is still a Tory unfortunately. With parliamentary politics you get the party as a whole, not a singular decent candidate.

[@verager2493]

Britbongers wanted to lynch Corbyn for saying that maybe not all Palestinians should die immediately

[@mallardofmodernia8092]

​@@BA-bh7pfknowing how those like Liz Truss go she'll be like Boris and Rishi in a few years time.

[@ActuallySatan]

"Economically inactive" is certainly one way to say "physically ill and incapable of the kind of labor the government and major companies prioritize," but maybe something was lost in translation. I'm not that fluent in British.

[@qantj]

You got it right, it's naked fascist rhetoric

[@SuperPal-tr3go]

Economically inactive = useless eaters. Mfers aren't even trying to put on the mask.

[@glasszeraki9195]

I think you nailed it. It’s about money, and money is power, I guess.

[@FrenkieWest32]

its not that black and white though.

[@KingFate20]

I worked at a Burgerking during Covid in the US. If you called in sick and didn't get a doctors note you were fired. I'm not even kidding. We lost some of our best people because management was psychotic and acted like being sick was an excuse to get off work.

[@maxmetodiev641]

As a British person i can concur

[@purplepedantry]

I dread the thought of what everyone I left behind back there is experiencing.

[@thisdude1286]

Ello mate

[@GeorgeNoiseless]

Nationalist Exceptionalism is one hell of a drug.

[@philipvipond2669]

"The NHS budget is facing the largest cuts since the 1970's. Clearly, we're saving money on all the people who are *not* sick, so there's no way everyone is sicker than they were three decades ago... Also, what pandemic?" -a necromancer with a stick

[@ukmaxi]

Not sure I agree that the entireity of the UK is a "backwater" outside of London. That is a rather massive generalisation.

[@harryroadman1089]

Don't blame me I voted corbyn in 2019 😭

[@gamakujira64e23]

Your pfp gave me a stroke

[@applepye87]

Me too! 😢

[@nickolas4637]

same

[@leikfroakies]

Corbyn is responsible for the mess we're in now

[@doot_slayer]

Unfortunately I wasn’t old enough to get the chance, would've if I could

[@Jakuuu]

I hate it here

[@foryou7673]

Go to Norway, escape the hellhole!

[@dannynaylor5485]

Leave 😅

[@dannynaylor5485]

@@gordonstrong5232 i'll not be voting for them,, keep looking lol

[@samanthapatrick4345]

You're not alone there this now hellhole of a country is no longer the place I grew up in

[@samanthapatrick4345]

@@dannynaylor5485 A lot of us can't afford to leave that's how bad things are here in the UK if we could we would but that would be money flying out of the torries pockets so they can't allow that to happen and they make things as worse as they can for working class people

[@AUG_XZABER]

Whenever some conservative says to me Pierre Poilievre will be better for Canada, I'll just point to the Tories in the UK.

[@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO]

In Germany, the doctor issues sick notes. You know, the one who is qualified actually...

[@phoenixv117]

In the UK you have to wait months too see a doctor

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@phoenixv117 A GP or specialist? With specialists not getting short term appointments is kind of a thing in most European countries (though those are usually not emergencies in any way), but with GPs which frequently basically just check flu symptoms for a sick note that really shouldn't be a thing.

[@zigowl1193]

We in the UK used to do that. When we were still sane.

[@chimpana]

Wtf are you talking about... literally the whole point of this speech is they want to stop GPs issuing sick / fit notes, as this is exactly how it works in this country.

[@StuBiddyBop]

So the current law is you can self certify for a week, meaning you don’t need to go to a doctor, and still get paid. If it’s longer, you need a doctors note, and most workplaces give you up to a month of fully paid sick leave per year you’ve worked at the company, so if you’ve worked for 5 years at a company you can get 5 months of full pay on sick leave.

[@trevfindley5704]

Yes, this is correct. I'm not convinced Vsh has understood that this announcement was about people off from work on a long term basis, rather than individual sick days. Although I still agree that it's nasty and fashy...

[@Saliferous]

Oh my god, That's so generous. I get 5 days. (for vacation and sick leave combined)

[@estebandelasexface8193]

My partner worked for a government department in Scotland and while the actual amount of sick leave they got was high, they had this weird rule about the number of separate absences. so you could take a week in one go and that was fine but if you took 1 day on 3 separate occasions that was cause to bring you in for a discussion. I'm hoping it was specific to that workplace but it seemed like there were a lot of weird rules around how you could use your sick leave.

[@Henrik_Holst]

@@Saliferous sorry to hear, American I suppose? Over here in Sweden I have 5 weeks of paid vacation (which is the normal salary PLUS 0.43% of the monthly salary per day [that is the state guaranteed minimum, if unionized it might be more than this]) and sick days are unlimited however after day 15 home sick you get sick pay from the state instead of from your employer and this is capped at 80% of your normal salary (if unionized you might get the remaining from your employer so you get 100% coverage).

[@samiamrg7]

There are other commenters saying businesses have a lot of ways of getting around or disregarding sick notes from doctors to make people come in anyway. Is this true?

[@NumberJenn]

Ya know what makes it so much harder to "gather greater evidence" about being sicker? Being in the midst of being sicker. Especially in a timely manner.

[@Thought_Processing_]

Just for the record I don’t think UK is a dead country it is just suffering through the result of over a decade of the most self destructive right wing government we have ever had. It is dying though.

[@stepek91]

But will any of the terrible things that have been passed by the tories be turned around by the next government.

[@Thought_Processing_]

@@stepek91 A lot of them will, but there are some things that we will be to broke to do immediately. For instance there is a plan to renationalise some of our services but we can’t just buy them back because we don’t have the money, and we can’t just do a Cuba and nationalise it by force for much the same reason. The plan essentially is to drive the companies to bankruptcy and pick up the assets without taking on the companies debts. I know Vaush and a lot of the left wing don’t like Stamer but I genuinely think he has a plan and part of it is to underpromise and over deliver and is more left wing than they give him credit for. The fact is Labour is on course to win the biggest majority ever and there is a potential the Tories are annihilated as a political force eliminating them from the public discourse meaning we can shift the Overton window to the left and get more socialist policy later. Labour and Stamer can’t really do better than they are currently projected to do and suggesting anything further to the left might give Tory voters an excuse to vote Tory rather than stay at home. I accept I might be optimistic but I will apologise in a few years time when we see what happens.

[@Thought_Processing_]

@@blitzwing1 see my other reply for my opinion on Labour.

[@leikfroakies]

@Thought_Processing_ TRUTH! It's so disappointing to see Vaush fall for tankie propaganda about Labour. I genuinely don't think he'd be this dumb if he lived here. He berates people for being doomer about the US and then says the UK has no hope?

[@FrenkieWest32]

No it is not ''dying''. What doomer attitude is that?

[@Argumemnon]

"Arbeit macht frei" Maybe we need to pass laws to prevent people over a certain income or wealth from being allowed into politics.

[@jonathandorn1691]

there should be a redistribution system in place to prevent people becoming this disgustingly rich in the first please

[@leunam3004]

That's kinda what taxes are also meant to do (not mainly, I know) but one thing the rich figure out first is how to cheat the system before they destroy it.

[@TheBT]

He will be gone in 6 months, of which 3 months will not have an action parliament

[@jeffbo8748]

But then he’ll be replaced by Kid Starver so literally nothing changes.

[@purplepedantry]

The 5th of November will come early if they have someone who isn't at least a marginal improvement.

[@damedusa5107]

@@jeffbo8748how do you know? That’s the attitude that’s kept the tories in power

[@TheBT]

@@purplepedantry I won’t be involved with that, my ancestor was involved last time and it didn’t end well for him (or his brother)

[@jordanwood3150]

@@jeffbo8748 Starmer isn't perfect but acting like he's in anyway comparable to the current Tory lot is delusional. He's a Blarite and the Blaire years were utopic compared to now.

[@jl8942]

The most anyone would have to work in a functioning, productive society is 15 hours per week. Work 3 days a week for 5 hours each day.

[@glasszeraki9195]

But since there’s the threat of some other country working way longer hours outcompeting yours means there is a race to the bottom in order to maintain a power status.

[@BedriddenFire]

This happens over and over and over again. Politicians create a strawman of people exploiting these systems, but when people who specialize in disability studies actually look into the number of cases in which it happens, it's like 1 in several thousand. The amount of fraud is negligable, meanwhile a massive amount of people who SHOULD have government assistance get turned away. (I forget the actual numbers, but there's an episode on Alice Wong's "Disability Visibility" podcast that talks about it in length.) There are better ways to cut down on government spending than creating more barriers for the most vaunerable amoung us. Sunak should not be the person speaking on this.

[@breakbeatkid]

i would argue that your opinion of the uk without london is grounded in reality somewhat, but vastly over-exaggerated. there are areas of gross poverty, but not to the extent you say.

[@leikfroakies]

He uses GDP which is legit a right wing argument. There's areas of extreme poverty in London and some of the most affluent areas are outside of London

[@ayesaac]

No Bath is the ghetto, don't you know?

[@leikfroakies]

@@ayesaac God tier comment🤣

[@user-zb1kw2et6k]

​@@leikfroakiesDoesn't help London just sucks all the people up around it. Most towns and cities around London exist for people to commute into London.

[@Rahab369]

@@leikfroakies Not to mention the fact that most American states, including some of the richest ones, also use a capital based economy that would drastically reduce their GDP if you took said capital away.

[@captain_context9991]

When comparing the US to Europe, and England, its important to know that over in Europe, countries use REAL numbers. While in the US, every state, city, county, has its own version of what poverty, unemployment, and homelessness are. All of them collect data in different ways, which makes nationwide statistics completely impossible. And since no state wants to come out worse than the next, well, quite simply its impossible to make any kind of direct comparison.

[@coffeemaenad7455]

The Tories utterly gutting the healthcare system, then saying. "Wow, everyone is sick, well this must be everybody else's fault but ours." Last time I rocked up to A&E while in crisis, they were like "That's nice, buh-bye now," and just kicked me out on the street at 2am alone, I mean. Yes, seeking treatment is better than just being off sick. But. What treatment? Can't even get through to the Samaritans in a timely fashion because they've had to pick up the slack, and they have the infrastructure to be a charity, not to take over for all mental health NHS treatment. But yeah, they all go to these schools where they are taught that they are better and more deserving than the rest of us. And it's leads to these boneheaded interventions. Sunak's "Just go and ask for treatment if you've got mental health problems." Much like Rees-Mogg's "Why didn't the Grenfell victims think to leave the building?" or the constant refrain of "If you're struggling with food bills, buy cheaper food." They're convinced that they're inherently cleverer than the plebs, and it leads them to suggest these insultingly obvious things that any idiot would obviously already have tried and feel like they did a great job, bestowing the benefits of their great wisdom on the unwashed masses. It would be embarrassing if Tories had any capacity for shame.

[@Red_Crows]

The only good news is that he won’t be in power to implement it.

[@Plato86]

London is the only center of commerce in the UK? WTF Vaush? You never heard on Manchester? How about Belfast? How about Glasgow? GTFO bruv.

[@Rahab369]

Remember, GDP is only a flawed metric if we're talking about America. Anywhere else and it's a gold standard, hard factual report on how good or bad things are. "Ironic" American exceptionalist btw.

[@filipmaly6603]

Except GDP generation of London is £526.5 billion (2021) and Manchester is 28.2 (2021). Also population vise London is one Scotland (8,98 millions vs Scotland 5,45 millions) vs Manchester 0,5 milion of people. I do believe that Vaush conclusion that UK is actually London and then some woods, rivers and hovels is correct. Rest is less certain.

[@chimpana]

​@@filipmaly6603you're comparing Greater London with Manchester which is just wrong... take a look at a map of the relevant parts of Lancashire and Cheshire and you'll see it's a much larger economic area than just Manchester itself.

[@filipmaly6603]

@@chimpana Give it up man. There is only London. Do your resarch.

[@lukepynhon]

How they can tell sick people to get their asses back to work while they have a single family whose job is literally sitting around, living off of everyone's tax money in obscene luxury, is baffling

[@Fezzy976]

the whole idea that the UK is a barren wasteland of poverty outside of London is false. Yes London is without a doubt the most wealthy part of the UK, but their are many many more wealthy and middle class areas far away from the City. The north has been left a lot in the past by many different governments but in the last 20 years many areas have seen huge investments. The UK sick notes and fit notes are the same thing. The worker can self cert sick for 7 days after this you need a sick note to cover you for time off, you then have to give a fit note to return to work. They are literally the same piece of paper from a doctor the only difference is that the doctor ticks a different box, these include "not fit", "fit", "light duties", etc.

[@Rahab369]

Frankly I've seen more poverty IN London than outside of it. The place isn't exactly cheap to live in.

[@chimpana]

And this is the problem with Vaush and similar left wing streamers ... whilst you might like their politics, their ability to just talk loudly on points they barely understand, if at all, is just as bad as their right leaning counterparts.

[@skylaria1822]

As someone who has a chronic condition that has been making it harder for in office work. Work from Home has been a god send for me. I fear what my life would be without it. WFH does give a lot of disabled people the option to enter the workforce but this micromanaging the UK is doing is insane. It also confuses me as to why corporations keeps trying to TAKE AWAY WFH when it gives so many more people the ability to work. I GENUINELY do like working and just challenging myself (helps keep my brain active and getting opportunities to work with different things),

[@jarrodroberson]

Most places have a policy that you need a doctors note for EXTENDED sick time. My last job automatically put you on "short term disability" after consecutive days. When I suffered a double spinal cord injury and was out almost 9 months, they fired me within 3 months of being back "for reasons" ... "right to work" like most right wing things means the exact opposite, "right to terminate for no reason"

[@gazelle1467]

It's surreal to be living in this country today. I see the destruction they've caused whenever I leave the house, it's physical, in your face, completely inescapable. Entire streets left to decay, an ever growing homeless population, and rising costs destroying the few things we have left. My city can't even manage waste consistently anymore, what with the council in some kind of bankruptcy limbo. The Tories delivered exactly what they promised they would, and when they're done I guarantee many of them will leave the country with the wealth they stole.

[@wumpyjumps]

Based on every inside thing I hear about the Tories, they seem to be in eternal cope as they never fathomed fucking up this bad and being this unpopular that they don't know how to respond beyond denying everything, including all their failings and how everyone hates them now.

[@user-zb1kw2et6k]

​@wumpyjumps That's pretty much it. All they've got left now is manufacturing a wedge issue, which they keep failing it. Its gone from "war on drivers", to trans nonsense, to "extremism" and now this. In a month or two, sunak will stand up and decry another problem he just made up, all the while doing nothing of value and stalling out the general election that will obliterate the tories for 5 years The stalling is even more incidious because he and his cronies are pushing self-destructive laws to hurt the inevitable Labour government.

[@Rahab369]

@@wumpyjumps At this point their incompetence is of such magnitude that I can only rationalise it by concluding it's deliberate. To what end I don't know, but this consistently bad train of decisions, in the face of historically and overwhelmingly low public opinion, would be just downright gobsmacking if it is genuine ineptitude. It'd be beyond delusion.

[@jannd8170]

Never mind the fact that if you’re sick enough to need to go to a doctor, you’re probably too sick to work. Rich people think poor people fly off to the doctor for every little thing, quite the opposite.

[@fLaMePr0oF]

Your description of the UK's demography is profoundly ignorant and inaccurate, urban life in London is no different to any other city for the vast majority of its urban dwellers. Although the wealth gap in the UK has grown alarmingly under the Tories, it remains FAR narrower than the US, for example, and our urban demography is far more homogenous

[@lancecogan9893]

He's like this with every country outside the USA. His video on South Korea was just as bad.

[@chimpana]

I have to wonder if he's ever travelled anywhere tbh. The idea that all regions except the South East are bust is just silly ... and his understanding of legislation around sick days etc. is so ridiculous too... you legally only need a sick note over a week.

[@4bkb]

Where is the protest against THIS. Don't Parliament have bigger issues?

[@stepek91]

The average "brit " genuinely things sick people are what's wrong with the country.

[@user-zb1kw2et6k]

No. Everything Sunak has done since he got into power is him attempting to find a wedge issue to re-rally the people who voted Conservative in 2019. This is just the latest in a string of attempts. Each time it fails because its either a deeply stupid idea, something Labour also wants to do, or isn't racist enough for the worst people.

[@phoenixv117]

Not allowed to protest in the UK :)))))

[@4bkb]

@@phoenixv117 that's the first problem.

[@samanthapatrick4345]

@@phoenixv117 No we're not actually thanks to Rishy Sunak and his Tory cronnies

[@Mmmmilo]

What happened to positive progress? We were doing quite well for 80 years or so. People have such short memories.

[@parrot998]

Humans didn't learn. They didn't adapt. Y'all just kept trudging on through the corruption and systems literally designed to empower the worst people... Ancient legal systems and hierarchal social structures... What did you expect to happen???

[@qantj]

UK has been quite shit since Margaret Thatcher fucked everything up

[@Blackgriffonphoenixg]

"quite well" is an overstatement.

[@robertogreen]

Neither sunak nor vaush want to talk about the elephant in the room: long covid. The implications of long covid are massive, underreported, and feared by all in power.

[@MainIsMain]

This. People scratching their heads all confused why there is a huge increase in those off-work sick or people pushing in that direction as they struggle to keep up with the demands and hours of their jobs since around 2020. This isn't a set of diseases that are being researched enough or has enough public awareness. Meanwhile, we are STILL having waves of disease, pretending life has returned to normal, meanwhile COVID is STILL silently causing new cases of long-term or permanent illness with each wave, people falling ill with various post-viral conditions not well understood and with poor recovery rates. People in there 20s, 30s, 40s... partial or complete loss of economic activity and their personal lives permanently changed for the worse and we aren't tackling this issue. It is infuriating. People really need to read up on Long COVID, and beyond the headlines. Millions of people are affected. A huge chunk probably aren't even diagnosed or realise why they are so ill and left confused and alone. It's messed up.

[@joshuayung5158]

The british empire understood that Britain was not a land rich in area or natural resources (in an industrial sense), and so built their wealth and power on trade, enforced at gunpoint. Not understanding these basic truths is how Brexit happened.

[@mrelba9176]

You're wrong about cities here Vaush. I live in Manchester and it's economic growth is insane atm. It's basic London outside of London. Basically the only other place worth living.

[@SashedPotato]

In my experience Liverpool is also nice. But Birmingham, where I currently live near is abysmal

[@mrelba9176]

@SashedPotato Liverpool has a lovely nightlife tbf. Birmingham is dire. I lived there and hated it. The alternative scene is small, backwards and the entire city is full of racists. I got the fuck out and came back to Manchester. Love London where I lived for a decade too.

[@SashedPotato]

@@mrelba9176 yeah fully, I don't feel safe as a trans woman on the streets of Birmingham.

[@brun4775]

He's basing his argument on some regional GDP figures he saw for the UK. What he doesn't understand is that the vast majority of nationwide companies in the UK have their headquarters in London, so their production numbers show up there. He's just doing his usual ranting on things he doesn't understand. Entertaining but best not using it as a source of information.

[@mrelba9176]

@@SashedPotato I can imagine. Stay safe!

[@DecMurphy]

As a Brit this video was both cathartic and enraging. It's like we're an island of masochists who just love suffering, we've been doing this to ourselves for decades and we can never seem to stop, it just gets worse and worse year after year because we keep doing the same retarded shit over and over and expecting different results.

[@wumpyjumps]

Thanks to FPTP so many people know what's wrong and yet we are forced into choosing two parties that both don't offer the solutions everyone knows we need.

[@Rahab369]

That would hold more water, if the last train of Tory PMs had actually been voted for.

[@kevley26]

"UK has never had a revolution" jesus christ chat has 0 historical knowledge. Had they never heard of the English civil war and the levellers?

[@qantj]

They meant a revolution of the proletariat against the bourgeoisie

[@Zeberai]

no revolution? oi'll 'ave u know, back in 1066 the blimin' king got a bloody arrow through 'is noggin

[@leikfroakies]

​@@Zeberai More recently the King got beheaded

[@BA-bh7pf]

​@@qantjif that's the bar then it's pointless to bring up. The amount of countries who have had genuine proletarian revolutions can be counted on one hand.

[@Rahab369]

@@qantj How do you think we got our Parliament system? Or got rid of the Monarchy before?

[@Postcinct]

While this is obviously a terrible move by Sunak, I do wish Vaush wasn't so confident in his assertions on a system he clearly hasn't looked into. In the UK you don't need government approval or oversight to take sick days if the period in question lasts less than a week, I.E., most sick days any employee would be taking in either country. It's only after a week that you're required to get a fit note from a GP. This is obviously far more charitable than the system that exists in the US, because you oftentimes get company allotted sick days on top of what you're legally entitled to via fit note or short term sickness-especially when you consider you're getting paid your wage regardless. The twisting Vaush is doing to make his blanket 'Britain bad' statement work here is beyond frustrating.

[@Fang1241]

The US hates workers more is not a valid argument

[@ni9274]

Vaush can't have good take on anything about europe

[@purplepedantry]

Yeah, I've lived there. My parents had pretty okay leave when they were ill and it's better than what I've had here in Ontario. He's having a slip of ignorance because he probably doesn't have the time with all his other research.

[@purplepedantry]

​@@ni9274 He could, but he chooses not to.

[@JayeCole]

Agreed. I have lived 8 years in the USA and the rest of my life in the UK and the USA has a far worse system which is far more punishing. Yet he wants to consistently drag the UK and regularly says things that just sound bottom of the barrel ignorant if he actually knew anything about a system he wants to talk about with so much overconfidence. We have issues here… SERIOUS issues. And Sunak and the Tories are an absolute plague. But the American system is decidedly worse. I have a family member who was given a terminal diagnosis of a long term debilitating condition and in the USA it took SEVEN YEARS to get any financial assistance from the government. We are shit… but we aren’t THAT shit.

[@Alias_Anybody]

You'd think the priority would be to treat/heal people who are too sick to work, not furiously digging for work they could theoretically still do before they get better.

[@weird_autumn42]

living in the uk is depressing

[@user-qt7iv7qv7b]

the problem with Vaush is his arguing points stem from his inferiority complex about Europe. He turns some pretty genuine concerns in to the most ridiculous conclusions. Sunak is announcing some very authoritarian policies most of these won't even be passed before the next election or even really enforceable it's just desperate pandering to the one demographic he has left.

[@deletedTestimony]

This reeks of a stupid idea sold to smug Brits who think the problem is always someone hypothetical and not literally the government's fault

[@julian7247]

London is not really a city, nobody lives there people only work there, they all work in finances and in the evening they drive to where they really live.

[@evcarr3008]

That's not really true. I get the poetic edge but there are people living there, but definitely not in certain areas.

[@jakehudson4072]

Not true at all

[@doooofus]

this comment was typed by hands that have never been within 1000 miles of london or possibly even the uk

[@luiginotcool]

9 million people live there

[@justinmillette9110]

Only CEOs can afford to drive in the centre of London.

[@subcitizen2012]

I know we just arrived to the 21st century, and the internet, and we've not long passed the oil energy boom and industrialization and stuff. London in 1900 had around 1 million homeless and working poor. These were the Oliver Twist wretched in the streets, factories, occasionally crammed into quarters, or else tied to poor houses to engage in the exhilarating employment prospects of breaking rocks for 3 pence a day or something. We are going back there, it wasn't there long ago, we arguably never real left. God bless the countries formerly known as UK, what will they be without the U and the K?

[@sunlord6165]

What i dont understand is the idea that giving any amount of money to "unproductive" people is "wasting" the money. The money doesnt just sit in their bank accounts, it gets spent and is pumped directly back into the economy, paying sales tax in the process.

[@trevfindley5704]

@35:39 I hadn't seen the whole speech before. That section is mental. They do next to nothing about tax fraud by rich people! How insulting to conflate the two...

[@felixf.3392]

"Great" Britain

[@Femyoz]

I hope the NHS will give me my one official sick day good boy chicken nugget dollar now

[@Fredric_Cedrich]

The motivation for this, Vaush, as this government is dead, the country yes maybe, but this government most certainly is dead. They wanna election in 2019 on a single issue. Every single thing Jeremy Corbyn talked about, wages, taxes, insulated homes, homeless, education, investment in infrastructure, has been at the forefront of discourse in this country and the problems people face while the Tories approach them with a sledgehammer with a bow wrapped on the neck. And yet some people still think Corbyn was the worst option.

[@SunbathinginAntarctica]

It's all well and good to promise these things but you have to know how to win an election, and part of it is reading the mood of the general public. People just wanted Brexit done and over with, and Corbyn wasn't helping by being indecisive on the issue. Hence he lost credibility from remainers and was chopped to pieces by the Tory press.

[@SwimmingInSunlight]

The idea of a set amount of sick days per year is horrible, since being sick is unpredictable and having set number of paid days would be an opposite incentive to stay off work to use them up. They have paid holidays in the UK already...

[@chariot5660]

I actually do have love for my country from a personal perspective, the culture, the music, the people etc. but thoughout my life I've seen it gutted and become progressively hostile towards me and the people I love all because twats with no beliefs or principles want to make a little more money and cling to what little power they hold. I'd move to europe, but unfortunately because the education system practically ignores teaching foreign language, moving anywhere that doesn't have english as the primary language is not really a viable option, not to mention the effects of brexit. A lot of complicated emotions for sure.

[@dannynaylor5485]

Vaush saying london is only real city in the UK, should tell you he doesn't know enough to speak on the matter

[@filipmaly6603]

There is more people in London then in Scotland by some 3 millions.

[@dannynaylor5485]

@@filipmaly6603 so that somehow makes it the uks only city, does it, or does that mean scottland doesn't have any cities. What point are you trying make?

[@filipmaly6603]

@@dannynaylor5485 If that city is housing population of another country is making good chunk of economy then it is dominant force.

[@dannynaylor5485]

@@filipmaly6603 learn to write. None of that makes it the uks only real city, which is what vaush said, it may the biggest but it's not the only one

[@filipmaly6603]

@@dannynaylor5485 Take a deep breath and try once again.

[@talkingonthespectrum]

I'm one of those people who are on long term sick due to a wide range of physical and mental health issues. The sad thing is if I could access decent mental health support I could possibly do a job online, but due to a lack of mental health services I am stuck in in poverty with no good way to get out.

[@amateur_shut_in]

Standard Tory talking point and policy in the UK. Main difference to this period of time to previous Tory governments is the fact that they’ve used Brexit to turn people against human rights law. It’s allowed them to pass a host of draconian legislation without much protest, which they’ve recently made illegal anyway.

[@cinna-manspice4449]

Already love the title. I saw that Joe Rogan video with that British guy talking about his Trump is America’s best option.