Vayetzei: Rachel's Curse

[@loghauler4963]

I have never heard it that way before. Thank you so much!

[@sharenwin3820]

This was very timely. The revelation that you shared from this Torah portion was very powerful. We have been studying the Torah portion for years but I received a greater clarity from this short summary of this week’s Torah portion. I subscribed and shared the teaching. Shalom brother!!!

[@TrueRootsMinistries]

Shalom! Thanks for watching, subscribing, and sharing! It really does help.

[@Sir_Viver]

I agree and am glad to see you addressing the pagan traditions and generational sins that saturate the church. I agree with the prayer and intend to regularly reflect on it. I agree marriage is between one man and one woman. However, can you specify the command in the Torah which limited, or even warned against Abraham, Jacob, David, Caleb, Gideon, etc, from having more than one marriage? If Yeshua outright prohibited polygyny, then he changed laws and nullified others for the sake of tradition...things he even condemned the pharisees for doing. Even Stephen proved that Yeshua, and himself, never changed Torah, advocated for law change, or even nullified the customs handed down by Moses. That's why in order to execute him, they needed FALSE witnesses. I see what Yeshua did was move existing law from the head to the heart. I have asked this of many people, even Torah observers, and nobody yet has provided an answer which doesn't put Yeshua at odds with the Father, who in numerous places describes Himself as having two brides (when He is certainly smart enough He could have used only monogamous language), or at odds with the command to not add to, nor take away from the law. Thank you for your input.

[@TrueRootsMinistries]

Great questions. I do not see any outright prohibition against polygamy within the Torah but it is not the design. You see the design in the first 3 chapters of Genesis. Polygamy is a lower torah, not the spirit of the law (1Cor 10:23). As for Yah having two brides, I see it a little differently. He took one bride at Sinai. That one devolved into two when they separated from each other in 1Kings 11-12. They will be brought back together and made one through the Messiah (Ezekiel 37, Ephesians 2, Galatians 3). There is only one bride mentioned in Revelation at the wedding supper of the Lamb. The two must come back together, which is where we are in the process of timing. Hope that helps.

[@Sir_Viver]

@TrueRootsMinistries thank you for your thoughts. They do run along standard lines. A couple of thoughts related to your answers... I agree the "design" of marriage is one man one woman, not two men, or a woman and her dog, etc. However, the number of marriages a man can have, because being married to his own wives in two distinct marriages which would not be adultery, is not limited to one. But if having more than one marriage is not ideal, why did God choose to 1) not prohibit it in the law 2) facilitate families to break that ideal and 3) portray HIMSELF as breaking that ideal? Last question: if one "devolved" into two, explain Ezekiel 23, where two separate women, sisters, one older than the other so they could NOT have been one initially, or they would be the same age, and all this "while they were still in Egypt", before Mt. Sinai? Thank you again for your thoughts.

[@TrueRootsMinistries]

Good questions. I don't believe any of us can answer why he structured the law in the way that he did. We can understand aspects of it but only the Lawgiver truly has that wisdom. We could ask the same questions about the beatitudes. Why did Yeshua not simply tell us to follow the letter? I surmise that it is because he wants us to see that the law was made for man and not man for the law and that we are to grow into the spirit of the law, which is individual self-governance so that we don't harm others through thought, word, or deed, and that we have no other ruler (God) but Yah. Law of the letter kills but Yeshua came that we might have life and have it more abundantly. Law of the spirit brings abundance. My take on Ezekiel 23 is that it is a description, not a prescription. Judah and Joseph saw themselves as separate from the very beginning even when they were brothers down to 1Kings 12 where they separated as tribes. They were never meant to remain separate, but become one, i.e. the "one new man" spoken of in Ephesians 2. With multiple wives you will never have two becoming one and you will always have one favored over the other. The resulting fruit from that will engender problems.

[@Sir_Viver]

@TrueRootsMinistries when you begin your reply with "I don't believe any of us can answer..." and "we can understand aspects, but..." it begs the question "who are we, who admittedly only see bits and pieces, to determine what God considers IDEAL for any situation?" For some situations singleness is ideal. For some, one marriage, and for some, more than one. To accomplish my mission, I am blessed with X number of dollars per month. To accomplish YOUR mission, you are blessed with maybe more, maybe less. It is commensurate with the mission. Should you let what I am blessed with determine how YOU accomplish YOUR mission? Should I let yours determine mine? Man's mission is to be fruitful and multiply. That looks different for every family, yet the church and others presume to determine the limits within which to accomplish that mission, rather than let God's word and law determine it, which like the U.S. First Amendment, neither endorses nor prohibits free exercise. I think it's foolish. Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

[@Sir_Viver]

@TrueRootsMinistries regarding favoritism, "Jacob have I loved, Esau I have hated"...and this from a monogamous marriage. I guess God, and monogamy, has bad fruit. (I assume you know it is the perspective I am questioning, not God or monogamy.)

[@JSGenesisDesigns]

thats that proverbs 7 church.

[@JSGenesisDesigns]

one on every corner