VELVET Spiders and TRAPDOOR Spider GONE!

[@rezonantsarachnids5351]

Hi Petco, I've been a fan of yours for a number of years, but I am now a trapdoor spider specialist from Australia who has had great success with all but 1 native Australian mygalomorph family. I have a suggestion that may improve your experience with trapdoors going forwards While true this one was a mature male, peat moss/coir is not an ideal substrate for most trapdoors because unlike T's, they need something with better structural integrity to form a strong lid that doesn't break easily. This is especially so with species from tropical rainforest environments like Liphistius which, although they only build thin lids, live in thick clay embankments, not peat moss/coir. I have an old vid on my channel outlining a good way to make a large and beautiful clay soil based bioactive tank specifically for trapdoors. I think both you and any future trapdoors will really benefit from trying out clay soil bioactives in the future! They are stunning to watch as moss and ferns will grow in such substrate far better as well Hope this can be of assistance!

[@TheDarkDen]

That's good to know, thank you! I watched the video and I must say, really pretty enclouse!

[@Mellie_H]

"Mom? Is that you?! You're lookin' goooood!" 😂 I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself!

[@OniRubberNinja]

Keep it in the family! 😂

[@Mellie_H]

@@OniRubberNinja 😂

[@TheDarkDen]

I had a lot of good ones also XD

[@Mellie_H]

@@TheDarkDen Oh, I knew you did!

[@xian_qingzi]

Nemo is just making the brothers he never had

[@AsTheCrowFlies745]

The smooth jazz throughout sexy time always gets me

[@Turnip.8950]

"I think that you are hitting the wrong spot..." just about killed me! Very nice video, and I'm glad Nemo made it out alive!

[@iscmpn]

tarantulas used to rly freak me out but watching them mate is really cute to me now and i can't help but laugh, anyway ur channel and others like it have helped me quite a bit so ty petko

[@TheDarkDen]

you're welcome!

[@gorgha3988]

Oh man. When she started spreading her fangs half way through I thought for sure buddy was hosed.

[@candyscott489]

Yes that is what happened. Velvet spiders want Dry, dry 😳 Your versicolor is going to have 9 legged slings 😂

[@chaley2935]

I'm now traumatized you'll be hearing from my attorney 😂

[@kirksealls1912]

I’m just glad she didn’t eat Nemo! That would have been ironic

[@kimberlydunlap5577]

I have to thank you, I started watching your channel to get over my fear of spiders. I now own 4 jumping spiders and I love them, not sure I will ever get a trantula they still scare me that big. Again, thank you.

[@andrespasher194]

We need whole macro-lens videos of the tarantulas they’re so beautiful

[@JeffreyAu1]

If that music didn't work during their "sexy" time, nothing will. Seriously, that smooth jazz was breaking me up. :)

[@jDDignity]

Only you heared it 😂

[@Christinas_creatures]

When Nemo said Hey little mama let me whisper in your ear he really meant it 🤣🤣

[@nadiadonini3849]

I'm so happy about the news of you coming to Italy 😭😭. I really hoped for that to happen, or to witness an event where I could meet you, hope I'll be able to come too! I've always love your channel and I took my first tarantula thanks to you, so I'm very very happy 🤧. Also beautiful video as always!

[@amgtarantulas]

Holy moly those are the cutest spiders even when they are not cooperating!

[@maryjodennis5688]

Who's your mommy? Wait. Nature is naughty and nice. Italy! Exciting!

[@deynaweatherly4331]

10:35 guess he really is a mama's boy

[@aurorashinystar7789]

I can't wait to meet you at verona reptiles! i already convinced my partner to look at the tarantula list and to ''maybe'' get one.

[@TheDarkDen]

hehe, see you there :)

[@Flyingpapaya]

goodness petko i think i need a cigarette after those versicolors.

[@tayo0404]

'Hey Mum, long time no see.'

[@robertlewis78]

Rizzing yo own mom is crazy work

[@Draikmaster]

Letskoski finally I gonna meet you in italy🎉

[@jDDignity]

That occasion with the deaths was most likely the gone bad dead now infested roach which was partially eaten and infested all the spiders. I had seen this happening to other keepers as well...

[@amandacase9826]

Sorry about all the bad news. Can’t wait to see the junglearium redo.

[@mattwyrick8394]

Yeah, the brown recluse is so non aggressive that you could have used your hands to move it. Most bites happen when they get trapped and squeezed between the cloth and skin. I live right in the middle of brown recluse territory. Unless you have an untidy room with clothes all over the floor or work under houses you are pretty safe. I've only seen one BR in my life.

[@Byron.D]

At least no one can accuse Nemo of not loving his mama.

[@Tsirikos94]

Hello petko, after you said that many tarantula breeders make inbreed spawns,i thought that maybe some of the tarantulas that died suddenly in dark den ,actually died bec of health peoblems caused by inbreeding. Anyway, as always nice video

[@MOONOVERMIAMI]

Hello great video information Petcko

[@u4ia_fubar_75]

Tarantulas matting to 70's porn music😆

[@tracybowling1156]

I'm sorry about your bad news as well. I know you always try your hardest. And I will never judge you. It's not my business to.

[@BobyChanMan]

I have a friend that used to breed ball pythons. Breeding sons with mothers is common in that space too.

[@paranoiarpincess]

Lol that sexytime music sent me hahaha

[@kiinski]

Thanks for the video!

[@someweirdguy5055]

Should have played some Alabama country music during this sexy time

[@deewhitcha6014]

it'd be cool if someone could do research on T inbreeding..... I'd imagine it isn't good but we just don't know!

[@nicholasquerceto7575]

Ok, now I am happy too finally meet you! Thenn my request will be the same as the last time I texted you: I'll be very inteerested if you could bring with you two tiny partenogenesis scorpions, the eternal ones I mean :D so happy!!

[@kool-o4823]

The sexy time music😂😂

[@GreenExotics25]

Only spiders needed for sure

[@RicardoEmmanuelTeránMuñoz]

best way to start working!!! love U :D

[@joeyspijkers9867]

I never leave prekilled roaches in there for more than a day. It started to rot, and the slings got a bacterial or fungal infection most likely.

[@tayo0404]

SWEET HOME ALABAMA

[@Hemp1972]

..I have so many inappropriate jokes, that I will keep to myself.. 😂 😂 But yes an almost unusual beautiful fast mating indeed. 🔆

[@marysaltlife1427]

My brother almost lost his foot from a recluse bite. So for him, yes, it was very dangerous.

[@sidben-Yehoshuwa]

No not her own brood😢

[@TheDarkDen]

🤷‍♂

[@williamcozart8158]

Let's get down to de business!

[@coltonbrown6259]

You should name one of their babies Sonichu

[@givmi_more_w9251]

Oh my God xD That would be both incredibly messed up but epic at the same time xD

[@Venothor90]

Oedipus approves

[@jonathandavis3641]

You did good how kool😊

[@ChantalsCritters]

Great video

[@Bentong12345]

You should try getting Philippines spiders . Fighting spiders.

[@casmodan]

Nooooo the first time you come to my country i will be on vacation!!!! 😢

[@TheDarkDen]

hopefully not the last time!

[@Jax8117]

Come to my place baby 😂

[@maddog7584]

Engagement

[@PharcydeJ]

mate your maker... (get's coat, and a taxi)

[@tayo0404]

10:16 pfttt

[@TheSaltwaterRoom]

Clown fish accurate

[@martijnvkk]

2:07 why this happens, would like to know the explanation. Is this just something that's in them. You would think an animal would eat when it need power/food?

[@shannonperez3779]

It is assumed that once males mature they only “get one thing on the brain” which is to mate. It’s common that they will refuse food and waste away because their primary focus is mating. It’s unfortunate and why many tarantula and spider owners are bummed when they realize they have a male species because their lifespan is so much shorter than females.

[@martijnvkk]

@@shannonperez3779 Thank you so much for your explanation!

[@diozelbarrosa7706]

May i ask, what are those plants you tend to put to your enclosures ? Thanks in advance

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

Nooooo.....

[@Voice_of_Rambol]

Ooh I am definitely judging this is some Craster's keep type shenanigans, Egyptian Faraos, Habsburgs. If there's no definitive research on the topic then start it, monitor the babies and see how successful they are, if you see a lot of defects, like bad molts where legs don't develop properly or other disfigurement then the result will speak for itself. Inbreeding exaggerates the positive and negative traits of the parent. On Spiders I've found that on the 3rd generation the issues become more frequent according to breeder's comment on a post. Since Nemo was the only survivor, I hope that it was just your screw up with the eggsack and not genetics. If it is genetics it wouldn't surprise me if you have a bad eggsack from it, because like stated above, negative genetics will have their intensity increased.

[@Voice_of_Rambol]

Maybe seperate the slings early, and have some numbers on the enclosures and keep an close eye on their development. If more than half of them start dying off early or show major defects in development then it's justified to state that inbreeding affects arechnids in parent- offspring breeding.

[@TheDarkDen]

I don't know man, a lot of tarantulas in hobby are the result of inbreeding. Just look at the breeding pairs that you can get from every big breeder, they are always siblings.

[@Voice_of_Rambol]

​​@@TheDarkDenIf you want I can write some in depth biology on this topic, as far as I know from the research I did today, each individual sperm fertilizes each egg cell in spiders, they don't create twins from single egg cells for the whole egg sack. This means that genetical diversity in siblings is more diverse. That's probably why siblings have no issues with inbreeding, there's a lot of different combinations of chromosomes between each sling. Different combinations in chromosomes between both parents as each sperm and egg is separately created with chromoses of their (grandparents of slings), parents. That means that grandchildren are a combination of 25%+25% of each grandparent to make a sperm or egg cell. Both together sperm and egg cell are 25% grandmother, 25% grandfather on male for sperm and 25% grandmother and grandfather for egg on female. 50% sperm 50% egg = baby spider for 100%. I hope I haven't lost you yet because the next part is more complicated. Nemo and his Mother, Nemo is 50% genes of his Mother, 50% genes of his father. Same for the Mother is 50%/50% of her parents. But for their children it becomes more complicated. Nemo is 50% his mother means that half of his individual sperm's chromosomes will have his mother's traits or to be more precise in the explanation half and half of his mothers side parents. The other half of the chromosomes for the 50% for the sperm is Nemo's father. His mother's egg cells of course will be 25%+25% like her parent's unless there was previous parental inbreeding, then it's a whole other mess that is making my head hurt to even consider. So Nemo, 25%Father+(12,5% grandmother, 12,5% grandfather=25%mother)=50% of the chromosomes for sperm mates with Mother who has same parents as nemos grandparents that make up half of chromosomes for his sperm and all of the chromosomes of her eggs. Ok what do all these % mean for their offspring? 25% of the chromosomes in each sling will have an increased chance of bad recessive traits. With variety on which genes will be different with each sling because of how different sperm fertilizes different individual eggs. Now I do not know how much bad recessive genes will affect the slings but if the chance is 25% of all chromosomes the chance is quite high some may carry the bad recessive genes, that most of the time get suppressed in the sheer quantity of the slings, they now have a guaranteed chance of being more frequent due to parental inbreeding, copies of chromosomes in both mates. I do hope it makes sense, to me it kinda does😅 although I am sceptical if I understand everything correctly.

[@chunnoklau8620]

Does anyone know the song name for the 'sexy time' 😂😂

[@richardbriansmith8562]

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[@Ri_Shin_Marco]

3:23 I saw necrosis pictures of it's bite... Well let's say it isn't pretty and you will be left with a sizable scar. If you get bitten on a finger you could also lose that finger to the necrosis.

[@IrishColin]

Yes, we've all seen the "pictures: of their bites. The big problem is that 99% of those pictures aren't recluse bites and are instead staph infections that were diagnosed as recluse bites. I'm not implying that they can't cause necrosis but the amount of bites that cause necrosis are very minimal and then among those the amount that cause any notable necrosis is even more minimal. I wouldn't go getting bitten on purpose myself but that being said they are not these dangerous scary skin eating spiders that they're made out to be in legend. Doctors unfortunately will misdiagnose many things as spider bites and then determine what spider it was based on what said spider is "supposed" to do or if the person is lucky enough to catch the spider that bit them (if they were bit by a spider at all) then they should send it in to an arachnologist for identification and not to the doctor because the doctor isn't able to ID any more properly than the patient. Look how many medical sites still list hobo spiders as dangerous when they have a laundry list of studies indicating that they are harmless and not a shred of evidence besides wives tales that say they are. My whole point is to only believe evidence about things like this if they come from a proper source such as a scientific study with standards and controls. Hope your having a good day by the way.

[@exotictarantulacollection0412]

❤❤❤❤😊

[@altalanosszanalom9125]

ohh my little step son ..where did you learn this technique? 😅

[@ACE.SpiderMan]

petko

[@cosmic-fortytwo]

3:27 You really shouldn't joke about Brown Recluse spiders. I know someone who was bitten and was extremely sick. He passed out at work and had to be rushed to the hospital. He nearly died of Sepsis. It's not a spider to joke about.

[@PhenomenaxLegendKillers]

Is anybody else becoming frustrated with these videos recently? For me ever since we seen the blue metallica is bad condition and then pass away I have been thinking these pets are not properly being cared for... the blue Metallica passed away and now the trapdoor and velvet spiders? I'm not a expert on tarantulas or even how to care and handle for them but it's also frustrating watching videos where this guy purposely takes a spider out of their habit which they have already made as a home, to record a video trying to persuade them to dig deep holes? These spiders exist in the wild, it is not their instinct to make damn KZbin content... but honestly it is just frustrating watching all these spiders not being treated properly 💯 also what about the moths that were left outside without an enclosure already setup for them? They are moths left in an entire room with spiders... who the hell purchases an animal without having their home already setup for them? I understand becoming busy with things but it seems like the only priority has been to get content for the channel instead of actually caring for them...

[@IrishColin]

Look, if you don't know about an animals care then you can't judge someone's care of said animal. There are plenty of people who don't know the first thing about tarantulas who think feeding them once a month is animal abuse. As far as moving them goes, they are NOT people, they don't become attached to a "home". In the wild which you brought up, tarantulas have to move burrows frequently due to flooding, not enough food in the area, predators etc. Then to answer about the moths, they live for like two weeks and don't eat, what kind of enclosure is going to be suitable for them to fly around and breed besides a giant net enclosure, and even then it is really no different than flying about the room. I'm not saying he does everything perfect by any means but what I am saying is that every "issue" you brought up is actually a non-issue.

[@michellemorningstar880]

Epic video Peko love the hub hub time hope it work out

[@cristianalfaro2855]

1st

[@Barryboy-f5h]

First

[@MouliomAngel]

Pls answer my comment,🙏🙏

[@TheDarkDen]

sup