Battlespace 'The Battle of Sector 001'

and here it is the highly anticipated sequel to 'Wolf 359' the 'Battle of Sector 001' from the film 'First Contact'. Where Starfleet will confront the borg, yet their worse inclinations threaten to get the better of them.
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[@glenmassey3746]

Borg: Resistance is futile. Starfleet ship Captains: Never been swarmed by angry hornets have you. Borg: What are Hornets?

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

don't know if you'd say 8472 are like hornets?

[@glenmassey3746]

Meant Starfleet ships.

[@weldonwin]

Borg: Resistance is futile nothing can stop u... Is that the Defiant? OH SH*T! SISKO'S NOT HERE IS HE?!?

[@Drakesonone]

@@weldonwinif he was there it be a short movie and a happy revenge for his dead wife.

[@beaney56]

I wish paramount would give this man a blank cheque to make a star trek series! It would be epic.

[@9and7]

Agreed Man, this is some high level sci. This is on course to being as good as Darth Angeles' Thrawn Trilogy. Cheers VGM98 and Thank You for this and hopefully many more...

[@werhnerwangra]

Nah, the only thing he'll get is a cease and desist notice from those Paramount reprobates

[@beaney56]

@@werhnerwangra that makes me incredibly sad. He would make the most incredible star trek series.

[@werhnerwangra]

@@beaney56 It is sad that the people at Paramount are not interested in developing the franchise and when fans do they attack like with Axanar

[@jeffhallam2004]

What a talented artist!

[@dwaynegreen1786]

“This far, no further”. One of the best Star Trek quotes of all time.

[@stab74]

I just watched a DS:9 rerun today where Quark says it in season 7. 🤣

[@dwaynegreen1786]

@@stab74 good call, now that’s funny🤣🤣🤣

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

14:40 ; Wow, the Oberths are actually useful for once. Starfleet definitely means business. Now if only they can do this all or even most of the time then the Federation could become the undisputable hegemon of both the Alpha and Beta Quadrants. (Excluding noncorporeal hyperadvance civilizations doing nothing but the one planet challenge because the writers have no idea what to do with them in relation to conventional Star Trek Astropolitics and just end up forgetting about them).

[@farshnuke]

This may be controversial but I think that if you're nigh unstoppable quietly minding your own business actually makes sense.

[@HeadlessChickenTO]

I loved how you tied in the invasion of the Undine as the reason for the Borg second incursion. I just wished we had more of the actual battle in the movie to see these tactics in play. Someone needs to do a fan made film with you as the writer and director.

[@jonsouth1545]

although it ignores that first contact with 8472 was over a year after the Battle of 001

[@t4rv0r60]

@@jonsouth1545 well violating continuety is not new in trek xD

[@shadowvessel]

Fuck yeah!

[@shadowvessel]

@@jonsouth1545 How long before Scorpion did the Borg first engage Species 8472?

[@jonsouth1545]

@@shadowvessel from what we know from Arturas and the whole fake Starfleet vessel the Borg 8472 war was very short and only lasted a few months

[@Mayfield2024]

Great job, as ever. The Admiral's plan to capture the Cube was interesting. I can see the value of disabling the Borg and studying their technology ahead of future encounters. Data even suggests as much to Riker in TBoBW. However, to take such a risk in such close proximity to earth was foolhardy to say the least. Conducting such an operation out in deep space would have made more sense. Did I detect a suggestion that political manoeuvrings, as opposed to his traumatic history with the collective, were to blame for Picard's exclusion from the fray? Do tell..

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

put simply Hayes didn't want him there because he knew Picard would want to destroy them. equally while Hayes was the formal commander of 'Borg Task Force Bravo'. in practice picard was in command for most of the training exercises. We know from 'Star Trek Picard' he doesn't get on with the Satus-Qou in starfleet command.

[@Mayfield2024]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 So the task force trains with Picard as field-commander and then, on the eve of battle, old 'JL' gets the curly finger and is banished to the Neutral Zone. These Admirals - honestly, I despair sometimes... 😱

[@time391]

@@Mayfield2024 If only Janeway were Admiral at this point, she'd probably take over the Cube and make herself the new Borg Queen :o

[@dustind3960]

I wonder what would of happened if picards and the crew of the enterprise would of broken order 3 hours earlier or even when the borg were first heading for sector 001 in 2373?

[@SuperGamefreak18]

oh the irony of this now, after picard come out and became an ok show

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

Borg when their cube gets destroyed by Humanity and the U.F.P: "We have awakened a sleeping giant. This is fine." Borg when they get invaded by 8472/Undine: "And, we did it again, a problem has now developed." Borg when they get defeated by Humanity and U.F.P. again: "Wow our luck has just all gone horrible." Just like Starfleet, the Borg got a wakeup call to their arrogance. Like Garak said, the two share much in common. Unlike Starfleet, without the ability to innovate, the Borg will have a harder time to adapt, if they do at all.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

an excellent point, i forgot about that Garak quote.

[@TimothyChapman]

Where did Garak say that Starfleet and the Borg had much in common?

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

@@TimothyChapman ; Wait, it might have actually be Eddington who said that, but Garak still also made commentary on the Federation as well.

[@absboodoo]

@@occultatumquaestio5226 And then Quark call us root beer.

[@ISAF_Ace]

I think the Borg made better villains when we knew nothing about them they were mysterious and had no obvious drive until we got more on them. Just like the brain parasites in that episode of TNG It had an unsolved mystery style that I’m glad was never finished because it leaves us wondering. I this battle put their raw strength into perspective as a single cube just bashed its way through to terra although it was stopped it shows that if they wanted the Borg could crush them. Amazing episode, the into about the Borg encounters is perfect and puts them into perspective

[@RHICfct]

Terra Nova, Terra Firma, Terra Invicta, All hail The Greater Terran Union!

[@omega311888]

from what i understand, they DID a follow up story involving the parasites in the comic book. i never got to read it, though.

[@ISAF_Ace]

@@omega311888 I've not read it and I don't plan to, just like alien vs predator I don't intend to acknowledge its existence

[@aiosquadron]

This is true about many villians. Look at Mass Effect. The Reapers were better when they were "beyond our comprehension".

[@Clenched.Cheeks]

I just want to let you know that the algorithm is recognizing you. I just saw this randomly pop up in my newsfeed after having watched a First Contact video.... six months ago. Great video. Absolutely great! And subscribed.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

youtube works in mysterious ways...

[@invidofinp1828]

"Tough little ship you have there." "Little?" Great episode. I wanted to leave this for the algorithm and say how well that was put together.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

thanks. these days comments are the most important.

[@shadowvessel]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Also, I think if you leave multiple comments it pops up in your Recommended more

[@warrenpeese8147]

When they say ramming speed that indicates a pre determined velocity. Mabey ramming speed just means as fast as you can go. However I've always wondered if someone in Starfleet actually did the math and determined the optimal speed in order to ram another ship.

[@SuperGamefreak18]

The purpose of ramming is a desperation attack basically willing to win to end if not severely cripple the target. Cause a full warp impact would be more useful though a warp core breach from a rammer into a crippled ship could do alot of damage

[@sakisen]

@@jkeelsnc The engineers saved that futile effort. Self destruct systems (and nothing else this would be) always fail when you need it and only work if someone took over your ship and wants to threaten you ;-)

[@jaspervlogt3843]

Its starfleet, crewed by humans, they dont think if they should, jsut if they could. So yes, i m 100% certain, that they calculate this for every ship, even if only for the fun of it

[@hulbertparsons7396]

​@jkeelsnc Maybe that's part of "ramming speed". Like battle stations or abandon ship, it's a pre-determined brevity command. The crew just pushes in the command and the ship takes it on autopilot

[@beaumartinez8705]

The Borg played possum and killed the admiral, very clever.

[@JCtechwizard]

Nope. Hayes survived. He sent the message to Voyager via the Hirogen relay network 6+ months later. Janeway: Admiral Hayes. Good man, fine officer. Bit of a wind-bag. From Hope and Fear voyager ep4x26 stardate 51978.2 2374 First contact (the battle part) takes place on 50893.5 2373

[@Clenched.Cheeks]

@@JCtechwizard Definitely a large plothole.

[@raw6668]

@@Clenched.Cheeks Not necessary. They said the Admiral's ship was destroyed. They did not say if the Admiral himself was killed. The entire crew could have made an emergency transport to a planet (Earth or Mars), a space station, or another ship, assuming they did not get to the escape pods or shuttlecraft. A ship being destroyed does not mean everyone is dead, especially with such broken tech the Federation has. Heck, I can think of a scenario that most ships could follow: transport to shuttlecraft, put all power into shields to protect itself, and go to warp the moment the ship is blowing up to escape. It also makes me wonder how large were the casualties the Federation suffered during the Dominion War when they have so many ways to escape their ships and planets alive and do not often fight to the death, unlike the Jem'Haddar.

[@Clenched.Cheeks]

@@raw6668 you have to admit, that's a bit of a stretch. The Flagship crew isn't going to abandon it's posts in the face of an existential threat. And from how we've seen the Borg fight, the Cube would obliterate the command ship in seconds. I mean, it hasn't been written so anything is possible. I just chalk it up to giving an actor a small bit of work. :)

[@raw6668]

@@Clenched.Cheeks That is why its not necessarly. Besides, those cutting lasers actually take a long time to cause a ship to explode if the Miranda Siscko was on and the Enterprise D was any indication. Depending on the clase, the Admiral had more then enough time to escape.

[@Qardo]

What is interesting the Borg did finally assimilate a member of 8472. Though this is in Beta Canon and seen in Star Trek Online. It is the most terrifying thing ever seen.

[@Adino1]

No doubt, the Borg were always going to adapt. Like Q said, 'they are relentless'

[@michaelgreenwood3413]

Annnd then we destroy it and prevent the greater collective from learning how.

[@Fackeldackel]

I watched this video late inside a dark, silent room after going to bed. Well done Venom, it felt realy creepy, even on a smartphone ;-)

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

pleasant dreams...

[@glennlaroche1524]

Interesting angle on the reason for the "First Contact" invasion--well done. Altho, to be quibble-y, the Borg saw a need for Locutus loooong before 8472 came along, but still very original.

[@stephenconroy5908]

Could it be with the time travel element that the need for Locutus is part of the possible pre-destination paradox of the Borg signal in Enterprise? "Get him. We need HIM to survive" (?)

[@bigevil1001]

I believe the Borg’s reason for wanting Locutus was not for some grand long-term goal but for 2 simpler reasons. 1-In their plan to assimilate earth they desired a strategic advantage. It was decided by assimilating a Starfleet officer of sufficient rank, they could gain strategic knowledge on their target. They had limited knowledge of humans and the Federation. Having only gained knowledge from the Enterprise’s engineering computer in Q Who. Voyager and Enterprise retcons not withstanding. They chose Picard because he was the first Starfleet captain they had met. So they already knew him. 2-The other reason they created Locutus? Does anyone remember that Voyager episode “Faces”. Remember how that Vidiian was trying to make Klingon-Belanna love him but he was deformed? So he thought “If I take her friend, cut off his face and wear it, she will be more comfortable around me.” Naturally, Belanna was horrified and enraged. I think the Borg operated on the same warped logic. “If WE ask them to submit to assimilation they will get scared and try to fight us…but if PICARD, a respected and decorated Starfleet captain, asks them they will feel comfortable and more receptive to assimilation.

[@farshnuke]

@@bigevil1001 Yeah that was my understanding.

[@jase4929]

Well that was bloody brilliant and chilling at the same time, your narrations don't have give you a chill. Excellent video,,🖖🖖👌👌👍👍

[@t4rv0r60]

this creepypasta style transitions into a war report. creative and informative without being boring. very cool my dude! also at 09:26 i see three groups with a designated "oberth class" ship. starfleet still in its way to deploy SCIENCE ONLY vessels in combat situations. 14:36 oh...ooooh they have an active role now. cool.

[@nsr-ints]

Electronics warfare craft. Smart. Finally a support element actually being used in, well, support.

[@t4rv0r60]

would be neat to see electronic warfare on screen one day @@nsr-ints

[@Robert_Douglass]

I heard about something called "technology farming" once, and immediately I thought of the Borg. The most terrifying thing about them is their patience, their diligence, their willingness to play the long game. If a civilisation gains their interest, that civilisation is doomed. It matters not how long it takes. The Borg send just one cube at a time, every few years or so, to gauge a society's technological progress by attacking it. If the cube is defeated, then the Collective takes what it's learned and adapts, but they also watch to see what that society learns from the encounter, and after a few years or a few generations, they do it again, with just enough to make the defeat just costly enough that the target society bounces back and develops more. Lather, rinse, repeat. Eventually that society will reach the pinnacle of its technological advancement, and then the Borg return....in swarms. They achieve their goals of both getting the best stuff and bringing other societies closer to the Borg ideal of perfection. Resistance, in the end, was as futile as hope. It's quite Lovecraftian.

[@Robert_Douglass]

The later episodes of Star Trek Picard, Season Three, bear this out, going all the way back to Wolf 359. Picard's reclamation from the Collective was not without its drawbacks. During Picard's time as Locutus, Dr Beverly Crusher-Picard noted upon a detailed examination of Captain Picard what had initially been perceived as nanofibers, later determined to be Borg nanoprobes, and which had begun to alter his DNA. And upon his severance from the Collective, Picard's genetic code had returned largely to baseline, but with one glaring exception which would go undetected for a number of years. Initially misdiagnosed as Irumodic Syndrome, a brain abnormality had formed within Picard. Twenty-five years later it would end the life of his original body, which ten years later was taken from Daystrom Institute, and the genetic code reprogrammed into the transporter pattern buffers of every Starfleet ship constructed after the Dominion War. Those who used Starfleet transporters would be reintegrated with Picard's modified DNA code, and ten years afterwards the seeds of the genetic assimilation of Humanity by the Borg were sown. This nearly spelled the doom of the Federation, and it shows an excellent example of how truly insidious and forward-looking the Borg could be.

[@probochronicles3991]

I really wish there had been a DS9 episode tying this into First Contact. Starfleet could've used the same argument with Sisko, that his experience at Wolf 359 might interfere with his judgement if he commanded the Defiant, and that Lt. Cmdr Worf would be better suited for the mission. That could've been a great segment, if not a whole episode....

[@Azraiel213]

Could have easily made an episode of that, but it would be a natural pick for a B plot, for sure.

[@farshnuke]

@@Azraiel213 Sisko on edge as he deals with Dukat until finally he breaks down attacking Dukat. He's not even fighting because he's too filled with rage and fear. Dukat's seen this look before, he knows it well, part of him wants to gloat but he knows Sisko isn't a Bajoran under Cardassian Occupation. Very quietly he asks. "What's happened? Is your son okay?" Sisko glares at him. For a moment Dukat thinks Sisko's going to attack him again. Instead Sisko says quietly. "It's the Borg. They're on route to Earth. Worf's taken the Defiant to help but I'm -" "Too valuable." says Dukat. "Compromised." admits Sisko.

[@beaumartinez8705]

I almost feel sorry for the Borg, they were desperate and looking for a way to survive. This attack was their hail marry.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

i'm glad that came across.

[@jaspervlogt3843]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Its also hilarious considering who came out of the blue to safe the Borgs arses...Humanity

[@ALIKN1-1]

They are the future all hail the Borg collective

[@deinekes9]

Splendid job there. A really nice touch to astro-politically link 8472 with sector 001. I don't know if the dates actually work out, but even if they don't then they ought to. There was one thing that you didn't fully follow up on, though I think you did it intentionally as some things are better left obvious but unsaid: the nefarious implication for Picard's absence from the beginning of the battle. Lore Reloaded had a good explanation but this is even better.

[@jonsouth1545]

they don't work out Battle of 001 was over a year before the Borg made first contact with 8472

[@JeanLucCaptain]

there needs to be a short series devoted to this battle because it went on for quite a while and it would truly be interesting to see an AXANAR style in-universe fanfic on this.

[@HardlyQuinn]

I'm amazed at how many people study the Borg's preoccupation with "humanity" and yet always seem to miss the obvious reason why both the answer is right there and also why the question itself is why they don't see it. In my opinion it's not Humanity they want. It's the federation. Think about it, assimilated ten Klingon ships, cardasian ships or jemhada ships and really how many different experiences, perspectives and types of knowledge do you get? They will vary very little for the Borg's interests. But one federation ship let alone its fleet... That's like a buffet! One ship could have Vulcan, human, ferengi, bolian, andorian, bajoran etc etc... Why assimilate a billion of one thing when you can get a good understanding of a hundred different species and then use that info to go and conquer their own home world's? It's kinda arrogant to assume humanity is their goal. it wasn't humanity that stopped them at wolf 359. It was the federation.

[@crazedvole]

For years we have been hearing about how badly scarred Starfleet was because of Wolf 359. I like the way you said that they finally got a little payback. Just enough to take on the Dominion. "Both afraid and un-afraid"

[@user-nc2xd2uc5o]

Wow lol ur opening monologue was so epic, u should become a author or some kind of writer

[@chissstardestroyer]

Borg cubes have a serious problem; while very sturdy, they're very slow at impulse, and cumbersome at that. They're massive, but sluggish, and easily hunted; it is for that reason that they mostly use lighter faster and more maneuverable ships as flank cover for them to shield them from direct attack while they use their longer range weapons and act as planted bombardment posts to wear down opposition- when acting in a group, a Borg fleet is one of the most formidable units in the entire Science-fiction universe anywhere.

[@MrAbbas16]

"Vaulting Ambition". I see what you did there. 🙂

[@spacepolicemanofspace6073]

GREAT JOB ON THE VIDEO! Enjoyed it during my lunch! I remember watching this movie in the theaters as a kid. It was so much fun!

[@shadowvessel]

Wow...just wow 👏👏👏 The art and your storytelling is just epic. Regardless if this is canon or not, this is the greatest story I've heard in a WHILE. Thank you, I needed this. 🤘

[@volrosku.6075]

Yeah i got a few quantum torpedoes for you to assimilate and that isn't optional...

[@reimannsum9077]

Your work has been such an inspiration for my Star Trek Adventures tabletop games. Thank you for all the hard work that you've invested in this kind of material.

[@benlaskowski357]

We've learned since Wolf 359. This is a vicious slugathon. The Borg are now facing a violent, unpredictable enemy that takes no prisoners.

[@SteveBlewett]

I do like the original intent of First Contact to have the Borg arrive as multiple Cubes. It would make the Borg less weird sending one only and give greater strength to Starfleet taken down more than one cube in a running battle.

[@timsimms65707]

I miss the original timeline. The new Trek is not for me, I cannot embrace it. Channels like yours are all that is left for an old fan like me. Thank you!

[@ApsalusSigma]

With the 2D gameboard like animations with the 'Borg Buster' ships, like the Akira and Steamrunner classes, their flat shape really looks like the NX-01 Enterprise - Which, in turn, makes me think that when the Federation Engineers were creating them they drew inspiration from or used the template of the NX-01 Enterprise, the rough and sturdy frontiersmen used by Archer, one of the Founders of the Federation. This is in contrast to how the 'Luxury Hotel Palace' that is the Galaxy class was based on the more sophisticated and stylish Constitution class of the Swashbuckling Cowboy days that is Kirk's Era. The neat 'head-canon' idea that when the Federation needed to reinvent and upgun their military abilities, they go back to their roots, those roots being the lessons hard learned by Captain Jonathon Archer. Seeing they need to use the dirty pick-up truck instead of the designer sports car. Then that all convolutedly ties back into the Time Loop that is the relationship between the movie 'Star Trek: First Contact' and the Star Trek Enterprise episode 'Regeneration' (2x23).

[@ALIKN1-1]

If I get a penny for each time admiral fails and die in battle I would get more than a dollar:)

[@MrGunlover12]

Ok now I'm pumped to see how he does the battles of Toros III and Tyra

[@tonyah.960]

I Love Star Trek and I Love The 'BORG' + Q.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I will keep watching the show to the day I "DIE".!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I wish Paramount Plus would make a new T.V. Game show like Jeopardy?

[@EventHorizon34]

Awesome job! Imagine what you would do writing a Star Trek series in the original timeline!

[@AceofCairne]

There is a wild card, Voyager.

[@SakiniCZ]

More drama, more emotions, this was great to listen to.

[@p.herrmann4538]

Borg are stupid... they send one cube and it gets destroyed then they send another one and it gets destroyed. why not send 10 or 100 or 1000 ...i mean they got really more than enough cubes

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

i thought it was pretty clear- they kind of had their hands full with 8472

[@larqven0192]

I liked how the Oberth's managed to do some very useful duties in this! Nice battle description as well, the 'rolling attacks' leading up to a swarm made sense here. Some punishing attacks from 'mere' photon torpedoes having a great effect, not so unlike the first encounter with the Enterprise D. The business with the Undine, Species 8472, also suggesting why the Borg only sent one cube to do the job.

[@jaspervlogt3843]

I think they are perfect too. Too useless and weak to be any threat, thus being utterly ignored, while they do the vital job to ensure communications. Hiding the Ace in plain sight and dangling it in front of the blind Borg.

[@kieranfurlong6368]

I can't wait to see this 😊😊😊

[@Robert_Douglass]

"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The various sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our own frightful position therein, that we should either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." -- Howard Phillips Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"

[@rjstine1247]

Starfleet saved Earth from the Borg then saved the Borg from 8472. Damn you Voyager.

[@probochronicles3991]

I really wish there was a DS9 episode that tied the series into First Contact, it would've been a great break from the Dominion story....

[@wanderingthedesert5599]

Honestly, I'd rather have seen the Battle of Sector 001 as the plot of First Contact rather than the first 10 to 15 minutes.

[@gregorygraham5585]

I like the line when he says the perfect organism the line from Alien

[@wedgeantillies66]

Very intriguing and breath-taking fantastic tale of the events of first contest and of the federation standing up and sending a two fingered salute to the borg, that resistance is not futile. Intriguing twisted reasoning of tying second borg invasion into desperation and looking for a way to defeat species 8472. As we saw from Voyager, lengths Borg were willing to go to in that respect. Plus was great to see just how much better and strategically able due to the new types of ship classes and strategy and tactics, that Starfleet had come up with over the six years grace they had been afforded to really hit the borg were it hurt and pound them to destruction and going toe to toe with them. Giving them a fleet capable of defeating the borg, but also of fighting a massive long attrition war against the Dominion a few years later. acquisition

[@frostysimon101]

Perhaps today IS a good day to die!

[@ericmorang3903]

Prepare for ramming speed!

[@kieranfurlong6368]

Sir, there's another starship coming in.

[@frostysimon101]

@@kieranfurlong6368 queue sad Worf for not getting to die gloriously.

[@verovia1712]

Sir it’s the Enterprise

[@kieranfurlong6368]

Witch 1 The NX-01? The original Enterprise? The A? The B? The C? The D?

[@invidofinp1828]

@@kieranfurlong6368 Yes.

[@kieranfurlong6368]

@@invidofinp1828 What all of them?

[@invidofinp1828]

@@kieranfurlong6368 Now I dont know if you're trolling or just missed the joke... But it was E

[@kieranfurlong6368]

@@invidofinp1828 I know I was just joking

[@DrOneOneOne]

Narrator speaks so slowly it's easily possible to watch this a 2x speed.

[@michaelgreenwood3413]

Task Force Omega: "Resistance is Inevitable."

[@45580677]

Also came up with something from this and assimilate this to work in a Major Fleet Formation If go with 400 that make at least 16 Task Forces of 25 ships per in each part assign to cover Federation Fleet (400 Ships/8 Battle Groups/16 Task Forces) 2 x Sovereign class Battleships 40 x Galaxy class Battleships 28 x Nebula class Battlecruisers 8 x Akira class Heavy Cruisers 48 x Excelsior class Heavy Cruisers 56 x Steamrunner class Light Cruisers 4 x New Orleans class Light Cruisers 8 x Norway class Destroyers 8 x Intrepid class Heavy Frigates 8 x Centaur class Heavy Frigates 88 x Saber class Heavy Frigates 80 x Defiant class Light Frigates 16 x Miranda class Light Frigates 6 x Oberth class Support Ships Here are the forces of the Fleet broken up and numbers in each per 2 Anti Borg Task Forces (50 Ships) 1 x Sovereign class Battleships 4 x Akira class Heavy Cruisers 4 x Steamrunner class Light Cruisers 4 x Norway class Destroyers 8 x Saber class Heavy Frigates 4 x Defiant class Light Frigates 2 Command Groups (50 Ships) 2 x Galaxy class Battleships 2 x Nebula class Battlecruisers 2 x New Orleans class Cruisers 4 x Intrepid class Heavy Frigates 4 x Centaur class Heavy Frigates 8 x Miranda class Light Frigates 3 x Oberth class Support Ships 12 Battle Groups (300 Ships) 3 x Galaxy class Battleships 2 x Nebula class Battlecruisers 4 x Excelsior class Heavy Cruisers 4 x Steamrunner class Light Cruisers 6 x Saber class Heavy Frigates 6 x Defiant class Light Frigates This is design so Starfleet can use its specialized ships as fast responders why 2 Command Groups so not everyone taken out and 12 set up each sector or part with reserves to plug gaps on the line like chess each able to support the other groups and fast response to reinforce why many of the older multirole ships unlike Excelsior design for battle in the Cold War support the Command Ships in the Command Group why Intrepids to serve as fast scouts for the Fleet Of course older Ambassadors and Constellations regulated to rear duties and supply as the USS Stargazer a runner in the Cardassian War making sure what got to where needed base on the Picard Bio Novel as part of its duties. Why Galaxies freed up by Ambassadors likely not many built as was Galaxy plan for 6 to 12 hulls when launch so at least keeping up the Ambassador name sake as can serve as a Home Guard. Why Mirandas replacing there loss activated hulls or supply so say Support Group so a Fleet some 500 4 x Support Group (100) 1 Ambassador class Heavy Cruiser 8 Constellation class Heavy Frigate 16 Miranda class Light Frigate Plus serve as medical or recovery ships while also help out the Galaxies by augmenting there command and control as one thing at Sector 001 we learn the importance of equally supported groups of a team. Sadly none of these groups were at the Federation Klingon War as no one wanted to jump the gun before things got real to stop it as Task Force Alpha was too far away to help in time and likely remain there just encase Many of these new Anti Borg Taskforces that be the Fleet QRF likely in the works and added after the battle when ready to the 20 Fleets and boost up Starfleet to at least 10000 Vessels in this plus say the other 60000 are Runabouts that inflate the Starfleet numbers to match up

[@foresta-2684]

Very nice So what will be next Species 8472 or the dominion war ?

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Dominion War. I'll save the 8472 for next halloween.

[@foresta-2684]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Good to know

[@ruudstienissen6979]

Wauw you just blew my mind

[@quangutusuranu]

If you had been a script writer First Contact would have turned into a sci fi epic.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

you flatter me sir. personally 'First Contact' is my favorite film i'm able to ignore some of the more egregious bits of writing thanks to a incredible soundtrack, and gorgeous Cinematography.

[@quangutusuranu]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 It is an amazing film. Have you seen this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gX2clK2PnpuIkM0

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

@@quangutusuranu i hadn't: beautiful model although i wouldn't take it over the sovereign.

[@ronaldfinkelstein6335]

Not a word about the Borg's REAL human nemesis...Captain Kathryn Janeway, of USS Voyager!

[@sirgalahad1376]

Sips coffee ☕️

[@danielramirez1529]

“....may have doomed the entire galaxy.” Then enter Janeway 😉

[@robmckee5295]

Set my reminder.😁

[@chissstardestroyer]

Picard was no coward, he however completely agreed with Adm. Heyes' judgement on the situation and what he should do; only violating orders when he found out it was that his side was on the ropes and needed desperate help. Had the Adm. survived the initial encounter, he'd have happily conferenced with him to explain his reasons for his violation of orders- and his judgement of why that was deemed necessary, and should it be decided I have no doubt he'd willingly submit to disciplinary conditions once the firefight with the Borg was over and won.

[@chissstardestroyer]

Star Trek First Contact has Picard having a telepathic link to the Borg through some of his dreams... so it kind of fits that Locutus remains in a sense; plus Dahj in Star Trek Picard tracked him down and sought sanctuary with him at one point at that.

[@ussvoyager8650]

That was a really totally amazing video I can't wait 2 C your nxt video

[@grimmy2444]

Picard had info on Q. Q saved them at the first encounter by clicking his fingers , this fascinated the Borg and peaked their curiosity’s.

[@ThePuppywolf]

The Borg already had info on the Q. Remember, Guinin's people, the El'Orians had many dealings with the Q, enough to hint that they could rival the Q, were assimilated in the late 23rd Century.

[@shadowvessel]

Also, the inclusion of Species 8472 gave me chills. Your creativity with back story and motivation is genius. It explains every question I've had about the inconsistencies of First Contact and Scorpion

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

glad i could help

[@sithprimarch9970]

Another amazing video, thanks for all your hard work.

[@Starwarsgeek-98]

Another amazing battlescape

[@jasondavis1615]

Awesome, well done.

[@beaney56]

Been looking forward to this!!!!!!!

[@45580677]

So besides wondering where the USS Sovereign was where was Task Force Alpha as well? Oh I hear the chain reaction torpedo from Armada was planned to be use but cut later use in the game

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Task force Alpha was on 'rest' carrying out science, exploration, and diplomatic duties. as well at tactical training.

[@45580677]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 What of the USS Ah thinking with Enterprise so far away not summon the USS Sovereign to meet them enroute or during the battle as Enterprise-E near the Romulan border and made it or is just too far out as likely on patrol near where the Borg last appeared or along the DMZ to show the flag At least Sector 001 will show the Task Forces work and Starfleet will work to create more of them for next time as still one borg ship next time a whole real fleet we doom in many minds as a final call for defense justification add in get to war production started as I hear Federation production jump 500 percent in the war from the Dominion War source book of old. As for Starfleet numbers gives us 8000 Starships if we use the 400 ship Fleet system that should give the Fleet the 20 Fleets needed still during the Dominion War the Dominion had some 18000 ships at best a over 2 to 1 edge and at the Breen some 30000 ships at tops for there combine forces. Still a major issue for the Dominion was updating the Cardassian industry plus development of a new better breed of Alpha Jem'hadar that said need 3 Starfleet to take down for 1 still as we saw young and cocky. Add in Starfleet covering various fronts and seems the Dominion was up to more shady to keep Starfleet spread thin as the Breen in advance to leave the Alpha and Beta unstable to keep Starfleet from focusing solely on them,

[@climberly]

another excellent video! great work!

[@dustinkosman6615]

I had no idea as to what the Undine had to do with the Battle of Sector 001. It’s rather interesting to find they influenced the Borg to take that course of action. By the way, the Undine is what Star Trek Online calls Species 8472 so that’s my name for them.

[@jimmyg7757]

That was great! Well done.

[@miamijules2149]

Just rewatched this episode and yeah…. ohh yeah…. it’s even better the 173rd time around! Stupid good Venom, just ridiculous. Shut up and take my money sir. 😂

[@drewjackson3858]

Great and complete production. Good job. Just one little thing. No way the Borg never got beat back except twice. They've been at it since Enterprise. They got thousands of cubes. They got those trans warp thingies. It would have been an all Borg galaxy long ago. What about those dinosaur aliens that teleported voyager inside their fifty mile long starship or whatever. Bet they could whip some green glowing butt.

[@donhodgkinson6233]

Great vid don't think that the fleet would lower their shields during combat or try to board a borg cube what would be the point especially when the borge have the ability to regenerate so fast

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

remember Hayes wanted to capture the cube. when the borg worked that out... they played dead.

[@donhodgkinson6233]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 yeah but still when your home planet is on the line it's not the time to start lowering shields trying capture things but hey the federation are not the most ruthless when it comes to tactics so maybe you are right. In real life Picard would have got the enterprise destroyed along with all the families and children on board before he ever came across the borges in season 2 with his morality and pussyhole combat tactics.

[@TimothyChapman]

Species 8472 were just interested in destroying the Borg and making sure that Voyager stayed out of their way by trying to scare them off. They only became interested in Starfleet when Voyager intervened.

[@deinekes9]

True, though this is one of those instances where you have to weigh the soft retcons that Voyager was so fond of. It really does feel like the 8472 we know at the beginning of Scorpion is completely different to the ones at the end of its arc. I honestly can't blame people for performing mental plot surgery to preserve that horrifying threat that 8472 represented.

[@TimothyChapman]

@@deinekes9 At the start of Scorpion Part 1, Species 8472 landed a direct hit on Voyager and caused no damage to their ship (just causing momentary loss of control). If they were really intent on destroying everything, why did they spare Voyager?

[@adrianjorgensen3750]

My absolute favourite sequence in all of TNG, defiant class ship bridge, a hand appears, suddenly the kingon theme starts, worf pulls himself up. His officer informs him everything is offline, he slams his fist on his console in anger. Then in a last act of defiance. “Perhaps today is a good day to die. Prepared for ramming speed!” Que the cavalry, aka the enterprise, riding to the rescue.

[@toxicscarecrow982]

Um half of the ships you claim to be at the battle of sector 001 were not. Unless your using non canon sources?? I mean please tell me that this is just a fan theory and that your not telling people that this is actually what happened please 😤 and if it is a fan theory you should put it in the title of your video.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

it is my head canon. but i think you'll find that all the ships present in the sequence are shown here. Plus some others that i added.

[@toxicscarecrow982]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 their was no galaxy classes at the battle of sector 001 and only 1 defiant

[@miamijules2149]

⁠@@toxicscarecrow982I’m sorry, why wouldn’t there be a Galaxy class at 001 if there was at least one at 359? And we know there were other Defiant class ships being built over Earth and Mars, why wouldn’t they take one or two of those bad boys, fuel them up and send them off to fight? I am aware of no cannon that agrees with your assertions.

[@4thdoctor284]

So it sounds that you are paraphrasing my second incarnation as I defended myself during my trial with the Trial by the Time Lords. Oh yes the Borg...Well they an early bunch of cyborg that that had things in common with the Cybermen

[@jenniferstewarts4851]

This battle is a prime example of every single thing wrong with starfleet. By this point they had a rough idea of who the borg were, the way the borg acted, what they could do. They had the right idea with random and dymanic attacks at first, but they kept "repeating that"... tactics like.... "slowing the cube" if you've slowed the cube... send ships in front of it. drop spacial mines in the cubes path... now it has to barrel threw those, manouver which will slow it down even more as it changes course, and thats even if it noticed the mines. Also in all their engagements "quantum torpedoes" were the best the federation could come up with? In this day and age... we'd have looked at the size of the cube, looked at at maneuverability... and... a highly manouverable projectile like a torpedo isn't really needed. they KNEW borg cubes were decentralized, and stoping one "conventionally" was based on "how much damage" you could do to it and how fast. so in response... you build cube killer torpedoes. Something much larger then a normal torpdeo... something that would only be useful vs larger targets like space stations, or cubes. Consider today, you have small missiles with 300 pound warheads, manouverable, small, they are good for hitting small ships like destroyers, or small buildings. but it takes many of them to actually kill a very large ship or hard target. you have bigger missiles with the 800-1000 pound warheads... these are made for hardened targets, but it would still take several to cripple or kill a big carrier or such. but russia's answer, was the big ship killer missiles. The Shipwreck, the Sandbox, these missiles had massive 2000+ pound warheads, they could cripple a carrier with a single hit. The federation could have easily build ships with "cube killer" torpedoes. mounted them in "modular" launching systems, then placed them in... the cargo bays... of ships. or shuttle bays. Picture a large launcher that could be placed in a ships shuttle or cargo bay, complete with extra armor around it. slide it into the cargo bay, open the cargo bay door which now reveals the entire armored modal, and fire. Some ships had forward facing cargobays others aft. the ones with aft, with the cube slowed down could have gotten infront of it and fired the ship killers into its path... with a payload equal to 20-50 torpedoes each, they would quickly inflict crippling damage on a cube. While at this time they didn't know the borgs weakness to projectiles, another option would have been railguns. once a cube was out of warp... long range barrages with heavy rail guns would have worked as well. and again they would only be usuable against very large slow targets... star bases, or ground installations, and vs cubes, they would have to be fired fairly close in, under 30,000 km so well within phaser range... you could likely push that out a fair bit vs space stations or planets. ((yep, space battles look cool close up, but most battles in start trek often happen with the ships several light seconds in distance from each other. )

[@brandont7440]

Yeah wow. I love star trek. Seen it all so much so you think we'll I love it...but... Nothing new can happen. Alas I loved it too much and now I've seen it all. But listening to this guy talk about it it's like a whole new story completely different episode or show something you think you know told in a completely different way. Yeah Paramount give him the blank check you need to hire this guy fast maybe he can save Discovery.

[@johnm9126]

Did the humans really resist the Borg I feel more like the Borg gave up because it wasn’t worth their Time. If the Borg sent 20 cubes to earth starfleet ain’t stopping them in time to save earth.

[@warhawk4494]

I can't wait!

[@tiagodagostini6233]

Seriously? Why the borg suddenly got interested in the federation? maybe because they were pursuing enterprise in their sector... then suddenly the ship spin away at absurd speed that the borg cannot fathom how something could go so fast? They surely wanted to know how in heck that ship could do that.

[@ycplum7062]

Star Trek tactics often does not make sense. I would have sent a salvo of quantum torpedoes, severely weakening the Cube and then start whittling it down.

[@ravenkk4816]

“Doom the entire galaxy..... until Starfleet ship fucked them up too.

[@Nmagg1776]

Voyager would end up being the borg undoing by species 8472

[@red7488]

You are missing one VERY important item here.. Captain Kathrayn Janeway.

[@a.h.1358]

UFP: *Uses Hit and’ Run* Borg: “Your Mom’s a Dabo girl” >:(

[@terrancechilds3049]

Alright now this time it's gonna be different let's go get them.

[@cell718]

Good video and now I'm sad because STD is not Star Trek but a Star Wars ripoff.

[@wgdavidson9669]

And now we have the Picard series. WOKE: "Resistance is Futile".

[@qamarzaman9039]

WOW just WOW. Keep up the great work.

[@darrelgibbs4898]

I have this movie and love it

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

same probably my favorite.

[@ivaylomladenov3185]

Very good!..... :)

[@chissstardestroyer]

Basically he planned to caracal and swarm the cube until it was no more in existence, Sir.

[@skylerroxasmidoriyatardisp2882]

Like if you think German Trekkie or some other CG Trek Tuber animates a battle for this guy

[@nealsterling8151]

I wish they had made a movie about this battle instead of using it as an excuse for a time travel story.