Battlespace: The Battle Of Betazed

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

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[@tullyDT]

What happened at the wedding?

[@Marinealver]

They should have made the Betazed Asian or something. If there is anyway you can make them different from Human and Vulcan, what would you do?

[@geekiusmaximus1882]

The 7th fleet was destroyed at the Battle of Tyra, why is it back all of the sudden, and bearing the insignia of a different fleet from earlier in the war? (apologies if this is nitpicky)

[@bloodysimile4893]

Any chance of a overview of Damar resistance?

[@bloodysimile4893]

@@Marinealver watch TNG espiode: the chase

[@Wedgekree]

Poor Cardassians stuck on a planet with Lwaxana. That was terrifying. Also this is one of your best videos yet.

[@Jager1967]

Lwaxanna of Betazed is the only person other than the Borg Queen herself that can make Jean-Luc Picard tuck tail and run for Risa. So be afraid, be very afraid.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Can you imagine if they joined forces...

[@donaldnevgonhapniv3084]

​@@venomgeekmedia9886 lwaxanna of Borg?

[@charliedontsurf334]

Unworthy of assimilation. It detract from the journey toward perfection.

[@deadend1041]

​@@charliedontsurf334 Oh she wouldn't give up that easily She is after all heir to the holy rings of Betazed ;-)

[@charliedontsurf334]

@@deadend1041 I didn't know she was the heir. I must have missed that somewhere. ;p

[@anndra8687]

The Betazoids weren't stuck there with the Dominion. The Dominion was stuck there with Lwaxana. The survivors envied the dead

[@TheEDFLegacy]

The USS Defiant taking out the station makes so much sense. They know how those types of starbases work, where their weaknesses are, where their weapons likely are, and possibly even some of the access codes. It's probably the only ship that could single-handedly take it down (the cloak also helps).

[@time391]

It also opens up a lot of possibility for Kira and Garak later in to help form the Cardassian resistance with Damar, insurgency tactics were hinted at in DS9 and mentioned in the novels, but they were never fleshed out to what extent Starfleet or the federation was training for widespread use.

[@TheEDFLegacy]

Actually... after some reflection, there wouldn't be a cloak; wasn't the first Defiant destroyed at this point? The USS Sao Paulo lacked the Romulan's cloak that was provided under the special agreement before the start of the war.

[@sbkeel5639]

I'm not sure how it could have been the actual Defiant since it was destroyed by the Breen at Chintoka and I don't think they gave Sisko the San Paolo until right before the final invasion of Cardassia but a great and entertaining video none the less! I'm surprised the Enterprise-E didn't have a bigger role in the story though I assumed they would be leading the assault to rescue Troy's homeworld...

[@scpguy1381]

Well, not the weapons since the ones on Terok Nor had been removed by the Cardasians and the weapons on DS9 during the Federation period where Fedration not Cardasian

[@TheEDFLegacy]

@@scpguy1381 Oh, I know, but I'm sure they still have the blueprints on the station. Or, at the very least, they can see where they were removed. Also, Garak. :P

[@bloodysimile4893]

Federation: We are going to literate Betazed. Klingon and Romulans: Do we have too?

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Pretty much...

[@nsr-ints]

(Points phaser pistol at them) "Yes. Yes you do."

[@rgreed20081]

During the Dominion Occupation, the Betazeds decided mostly to drive the Occupation Forces crazy. Also, the Betazeds use telepathy a form of resistance. The resistance tactics include methods like excessive kindness to drive the Occupation Forces crazy.

[@geekiusmaximus1882]

Battlespace is back and holy shit this was incredible...the nuance you've put into this work makes it feel all so real, and it is clear that you have had time to refresh the Dominion War. I have a feeling this episode may be something truly special amongst your battlespace series.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

thank you for your kind words im glad it was worth the wait

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

That was definitely a more bittersweet ending. This battlespace had a greater focus on the human (or rather Betazoid) cost than the battle itself. An interesting, if somber perspective. Neat hearing all the voice actors, I look forward to the next Battlespace.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Glad you like it. I felt like it was needed as we move into the latter stage of the war.

[@nsr-ints]

"This is war. Learn to accept it, kid! People live and people die, and that's all there is to it." -Larry "Pixy" Folke (6th air division, 66th squadron, Galm 2)

[@alexanderleach3365]

Betazed's liberation was successful by the notorious serial killer of Betazoid history: Hent Tevren.

[@heypeopleitsmatt]

holy hell , the implications of betazoid like powers being in the hands of the founders.... terrifying

[@Marinealver]

Why the Dominion wanted them out of the picture. Not only could they detect changelings but make it so changeling spies don't have to resort to subterfuge to gain intelligence. They could just read minds.

[@weldonwin]

They'd probably see it as an expansion of The Great Link, a means of making it capable of stretching over distances without them needing to be physically joined. The potential for them to use it to straight up mentally dominate and even subsume other beings, is indeed terrifying

[@captainyossarian388]

I highly recommend reading Alan Dean Foster's The Damned trilogy for a slightly similar scenario.

[@Relav1364]

That Grax has a handsome head of hair eh? Honestly, best video yet. Everything hit. Story, music, characters. Love it. Well done.

[@Relav1364]

The Bruhest of Bruh moments.... excited doesn't describe the feeling

[@starbugmechanic5236]

Cmon Braa…

[@tommytwotacos8106]

I still remember as a kid, TNG was maybe in season 3, and I was in the hot tub just thinking about the TNG episode I'd just watched (don't recall which one), when it suddenly occurred to me just how fucking horrifying a conflict with the betazoids would be, and just how far away their true nature was from the picture they presented to the universe. It was a moment that changed me a bit overall, just making me more aware how easily my own observations could be subverted.

[@CosmicFearUkulele]

Really says something if your own officers want nothing to do with you other than the bare minimum, even worse if they testify against you.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

That's cardassians for you...

[@onlycorndog6322]

Will we see Shinzon involved in future episodes? I'm excited to see what sorts of deviousness he got up to during the war that earned him so much acclaim from the Remans.

[@ChairmanMo]

There should be a battle space episode about Shinzon's legion based off his story in Tales of the Dominion Wars. It is a good story.

[@RichtorLazlo]

They should had canonized Picard and the Enterprise taking back betazed. That would had been a great use of the next gen crew.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Would have been a good movie

[@derekwilliams7310]

Better than insurrection.

[@somestormchaseridjitwithwi2024]

Yes, actually. All of the yes. Opportunity missed.

[@andrewnlarsen]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 a mix of different factors but part of it was that they didn't want to do another dark movie after First Contact.

[@nsr-ints]

Personal log. Dawn reporting. To put it simply, Betazed was a tragedy. We landed out plane on the highway turned runway. I looked across the land, and felt an unbearable sadness... Within all the shell craters and artillery scorch marks, there were still people living there. They were the ones who took us in, gave us drink and food, but Dusk and me both knows that something was off about them. Something that, for a lack of a better word, broke them. We arrived at the "research" camp and capture that bloody doctor... Then we saw it all. The bodies, the brutal massacre on an industrial scale, all in the name of his twisted science. "This ain't no research camp... It's a bloody extermination camp," he yelled in fury, and it took everything I had and me confiscating his sidearm to hold Dusk back from putting a phaser beam right through the doctor's cranium. He was sobbing uncontrollably, his eyes filled with pain, grief, and rage. And I don't blamed him. If it weren't for the international laws, I'd have summarily shot him in his fraked up head right then and there. (Sigh) It's not a sight either of us will forget any time soon. A murder on that scale. And something tells me that this would be the least light hearted we'll be for the rest of the war, and we must end it quickly... If we live to see the day it ends, at least. I... Feel him. Honestly, from being his best friend for many years, I can empathise with him... (Sigh...) My best friend. He's... Nevermind. End recording.

[@hyena8385]

Ahhhhhhhh ***! Worth the wait !*** This had EVERYTHING. That starting music... That deep dive tactical analysis... And last but - absolutely - not least.. that superb writing! PS. You tube doing quite a few ads but I'm happy for once as hopefully it means you are getting the deserved recognition!

[@troyspencer753]

Well done sir! A fantastic video and a immersive tale! Thank you!!! 🤗

[@tetefather]

Really well put together. Great job as always. Would love to have seen you narrate the Enterprise's attack run, too.. I realize that you didn't want to spoil the book but a small spoiler alert would've sufficed :)

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

i was going to include it but i had to cut it for time.

[@ChairmanMo]

I wonder how this would be done. The Fires of Armageddon source book (which is good but not considered Canon) wrote the occupation of Betazed as being quite bloody. There is also the novel and well how they eventually win is also quite grim it is 40K like.

[@alexandercaires5921]

Because of your comment, I just learned about that source book...sweet Jesus pretty much sums up my reaction at the treasure trove of lore that has been rediscovered

[@loopslytle]

This episode was amazing. Well done, sir. You did an excellent job of turning a debrief of a battle into a drama.

[@warrenreid6109]

I saw the title but when I heard the Cardassian Prefect complaining I knew right then and there he was talking about Lwaxana Troi.

[@LackofFaithify]

Lwaxanna Troi, daughter of the 5th house, holder of the sacred chalice of Rix, Prophetess of the Centauri Republic and consort of the Emperor, nurse of the not bloody A, B, C or D, voice of the silicone, and nest mate of the Great Bird of the Galaxy...and who are you?

[@robertpetrie6589]

I've watched all your battlespace series and they continue to get better and better. Fantastic job

[@raw6668]

I think in the books, it was meant to give the Betazoids telepathy to the Vortas since they had the ability but it was not natural for the entire species as only a few showed any such ability despite their efforts. If they had the ability, they could better control the Jem'Haddar and could stop drugging the species, ending their one weakness that the Dominion War show a faction like the Federation, and later the Romulans would exploit time and time again. I could see that being the main reason as I am unsure if the Changelings could get that ability since they can transform into non-organic beings, but it would be interesting. Honestly, I think that is more terrifying for the Changelings an isolationist species that rarely leaves their world except for what they consider important. The Vorta, the species with a larger population who runs everything in the Dominion, command their armies, are the Dominion's many diplomates and interrogators, and program to be completely loyal to the Founders, which is a more constant threat.

[@shanenolan5625]

Cheers. I've been looking forward to this . ( sir Christopher Lee voice)

[@Jerkwad152]

I really appreciate the inclusion of the Ambassador-class ships. They should've been really prominent on DS9 during the war. They'd have perfectly fit the role of battlecruiser.

[@Tom_Cruise_Missile]

To be fair, battlecruisers are a failed concept irl. Ultimately, you're better off with either battleships or cruisers. A battlecruiser can do neither well for nearly the cost of the latter.

[@hisdudeness8328]

“Where…are…those…fucking…Romulans?!”

[@Loskenne]

Thanks!

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Thank you :)

[@timothyhiggins8934]

outstanding. simply outstanding work. best one yet.

[@ericsouth3019]

Been waiting for another one 👍

[@niceguy60]

25:25, WHERE ARE THOSE FING ROMULANS

[@merafirewing6591]

That Cardie really had ten months of hell and damn I feel sorry for him. Well now he will know why Picard avoids her. That's if he even survives the war. But he is definitely very glad to just surrender.

[@alanmike6883]

This was amazing venom. How much work in it. You should be proud man

[@jasonmadden9732]

Where are those Bucking romulans.🤣 My fav.

[@weldonwin]

Honestly, the Romulans are a psychological weapon all of their own, sending their enemies mad and driving them to paranoia just waiting for them to appear

[@speciesto3065]

I was expecting you to go the route of having the doctor making a Vorta-Betazoid hybrid. The idea that it's actually some kind of way for the changelings to learn how to make themselves able to have telepathy is chilling.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Yeah I felt that made the most sense I can't imagine the founders letting anyone else have that power.

[@sovietdominion]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 except the first vorta seemed to have telephatic powers

[@derekwilliams7310]

A hybrid would be as much a threat to the rest of the founders, if not worse.

[@joeg1915]

Excellent storytelling! Nicely done! I really enjoyed this episode. Thanks.

[@EZ-D-FIANT]

1.50 in and I know this is going to be amazing.....👍👌👍 Yup, that was awesome, 👌

[@mrlodwick]

Top notch content as always, Thank you Sir!

[@Wildcard120]

Excellent work. You never fail to impress.

[@madrabbit9007]

Great video! Another home run! Keep up the great work!

[@Broockle]

those 30 mins felt like maybe 7 😆 Amazing job! 😀

[@thetrekwrightchannel4186]

I have to watch more of this when I have more time but so far its excellent. My compliments.

[@bestirishfirefighter]

This is your best video yet.

[@frankowalker4662]

Thank you for this. Your choice of music was perfect. What a terrible stage in the war.

[@armandoestebanquito2282]

Incredible! I really enjoyed this story a lot! A miniseries with this story could be great...

[@IronMan-kz8tg]

Excellent show , looks like alot of work . .... your comment then goes like this " you have no idea ' 🙂

[@Dan-OH23]

Good job! Love these videos!!

[@DeaconBlu]

Great vid! Love the story telling mate! Keep it up!

[@philly83]

Poor Mr Homm

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

F

[@erikjaroy8214]

Rest in Peace, Space Lurch! 🥲

[@matthewcaughey8898]

Captains log USS Normandy Adm Caughey in command. After all this time we were finally let loose to do what we wanted since Betazed fell. Only after we got there we were continually held back by overly cautious officers who seemed to lack the guts to advance, it was beyond infuriating to have to experience that. Sure picking off the odd scout ship was no problem for the RRTF but we were there at the fall, we fought to allow the original survivors of the fall to escape and risked our lives to save the survivors ( how I earned my first of many bravery decorations). We were with the light fleet units for the probing attack only to find the damn dominion had tricked us. The damn senior admiral refused to listen to his most experienced combat officer ( me). During the final battle we were selected to punch a hole for the defiant to hit the station then we were told to slag it. After that we broke formation and chased whatever ships we could catch. Fighting independently we destroyed many and gained our vengeance for the fall. When we landed and the Endeavor beamed down to the planet it was enough to turn someone’s stomach. I was stationed on Betazed years earlier and to have old friends tell me of the things they did to fight was gut churning. I’ve seen the horrors of war and carry them on my body with my limbs and scaring. That was bad enough but to see what those cardassians did? Took everything I had not to rip the doctors head off right there. There was no celebration in fact a great many of us long serving veterans vomited at the sight. Even Ben Maxwell couldn’t bring himself to see it. Many think I’m more machine then man but what I saw there? It finally showed my officers and enlisted that I’m more human then even I thought. Let’s finish this damn war already. I need to take a few months off on boreth to find myself again when this is over. Though my cabin in Alaska might be just as serviceable, ( sound of very old bottle of whiskey being opened). What’s happening to me? It’s just like after wolf 359 all over again where I need the booze to silence the voices. Maybe I really do have PTSD from it after all. Suppose I’ll think about it after we win. Who knows? Maybe that will end the voices. Adm Caughey out

[@OllamhDrab]

(I predictably got interrupted by RL but I did want to say it was a fun premiere and thanks, VG! :) )

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Glad you enjoyed.

[@96polo]

Well this is awesome video, again super work and joy to listen 😉

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Maybe more than once ;)

[@96polo]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Today I watched atleast 5x times 😉

[@noahschneider400]

Absolutely awesome video

[@fightingfalcon777]

What is the role of the named Romulan Legions, like the Praetorian Legion from “Raptor’s Revenge” and the Black Legion, compared to the standard numbered Legions, like Tebok’s 6th and 9th Legions?

[@MH5XXXX]

A very nice story. Thank you.

[@jamieboyer3398]

This edition of battlespace was abit special not gonna lie, I tip my cap to you

[@BoisegangGaming]

"Where are those f*cking romulans?" every commander that is working with or against romulans ever

[@SynchronicityScenario144]

RIP Mr. Homn

[@That80sGuy1972]

That Cardassian doctor got off light. Less than 200 years, no capital punishment, for the Star Trek equivalent of dozens of thousands of counts of war crimes. I mean, he could make a deal with some tech/alien super-power to live or time slip into coming back quite easily around that. "Not easily." Really? An uber-secret-clearence level Cardassian with not Faustian deal? Please. He should have had the sentences ran back-to-back, at least putting him on ice theoretically forever.

[@nsr-ints]

That's practically a "jail for life" for him anyway.

[@darienevans6229]

i think the founders wanted to become telepaths.

[@Marinealver]

Or at the very least ensure they can't be exposed by telepaths.

[@thestanleys3657]

That was great 👍👏👏

[@BdogFinal14]

Old Alien Mengele should have got 150 years in a pain amplifier.

[@farshnuke]

Lwaxana is a terrifying force when you're on her side and she likes you. If she thinks you're a monster and has to take you down run for the borg and prey they can protect you.

[@richard1701able]

great video !!! Worth the wait

[@probochronicles3991]

I like the inclusion of characters previously seen on TNG in this extended narrative, such as Tomulok....

[@Persian-Immortal]

background music is the fitting.

[@MrGunlover12]

Will it be the invasion of or liberation of betazed?

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Liberation

[@ChairmanMo]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 How dare you oppose the wise and benevolent efforts of my Gods the Founders to impose order on these chaotic quadrants of the Galaxy! Victory is Life!

[@pongel7447]

I don't know anything..... Just do it for Cardassia !!!

[@ChairmanMo]

@@pongel7447 Wrong answer you have failed the Joint Orders Training Course. You are supposed to just do it for THE FOUNDERS!

[@sidekickdanieldg]

Lol love it. Reminds me of the Allies in WWII liberating Europe 😅

[@stephenconroy5908]

Anyone else feel this could/should have been the plot of Insurrection? I mean I've always had a soft spot for that film, but oh good lord this would have been far more epic.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Yeah I might talk about how I'd re-write insurrection

[@claudiusVIII]

Good job, thanks

[@allenbrown9069]

oh mother that chalice is a cracked vase with mold growing out of it

[@nopenope5812]

Well done!

[@kevinpresley3136]

What,wait.This is not real?I thought this was a new series.Bummer,well at least it is a good story.Nice job VG.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

im flattered that you thought so.

[@MikeIsCannonFodder]

I love the attack wings of Enterprise-C's!

[@TheWoblinGoblin]

watch a bit of the kings and generals channel, there you get a feeling how historical war documentary is done, less dramatic ;) good work though

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

i do, but plenty of other people do the whole monotone thing.

[@Marvin23]

The Dominion was almost ready to self Genocide

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

The hole thing about Lwaxana just made me giggle, its hilarious.I ALMOST feel bad fore those poor Cardassians....well....almost

[@merafirewing6591]

I feel for that Cardie, putting up with her is the stuff of nightmares and a good reason why Picard avoids her whenever he has the opportunity.

[@carlousmagus5387]

I've been looking for to this....

[@andrewshear2927]

Wow great video. I just have a question what are you going to do when you are finished with the war.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Earlier stuff... the rise of the klingon empire and the 4 years war.

[@Big_Black_Dick]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 😀 that's freaking cool lol can't wait for those

[@laisphinto6372]

peak klingon perfomance yes

[@ISAF_Ace]

A cardassian with their back to the wall and nothing left to lose will shoot their only ally in the back to gain the trust of the enemy. The Federations slowness to respond to an enemy digging in on a homeworld was a very poor choice. Like a hopolite phalanx when it is determined not to move, you will never dislodge a force fuelled by desperation to defend its position. The federation should have adopted a policy of aggressive patrols early on to weaken the dominion perimeter through sustain attrition, the federation had many more ships and reserves in its home territory while the domion was running on borrowed time; fighting in waves and by shifts, forcing the cardassians to meet them in constant battle, would have drained their ammunition and fuel reserves as well as tiring out the ship crews. Doing that in combination with the drones would stretch the defences to their limits and allow the probes to penetrate even deeper into the system. The federation also made poor use of its home field advantage in this battle by not using its much deeper knowledge of the system to launch fighter raids, they could easily get back the kill zone of the turrets and pick them off while the larger dominion ships would be too slow to respond. The cardassians may throw up their own fighters to try and defend the stations, but they again have limited numbers while the federation could easily replenish its losses to far into its core territory. The federation continues to squander its tactical advantages in this ongoing war while the dominion and cardassians uses every resource available to it and finds itself with an excess of time despite its war effort living on borrowed time.

[@andrewdiez8353]

"Where are those F****** Romulans?!" What we all thought during TNG whenever sketchy shit was abroad

[@captainsensiblejr.]

Why did the Dominion put up with the Spoonheads ?

[@vnep5743]

Weyoun would just love Species 8472.

[@aiosquadron]

Love the 1812 overture.

[@probochronicles3991]

Never saw a bearded Cardassian before....

[@jprice6419]

O Luxanna Lover of Jean- Luc and Friend of ODO you are the master of frustration and charm.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Odo and Lwuxana should have been together at the end of DS9 change my mind!

[@jprice6419]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 I agree

[@aiosquadron]

So... I asked chatGPT for a fleet. And they are NOT messing around at all. *Battlegroup Alpha: Rapid Response and Anti-Ship Strike* Battlegroup Alpha is designed for quick response to emergencies in deep space and has a focus on anti-ship strike capabilities. It includes attack wings and strike wings (I'm gonna assume they meant persuit wing.), with the ability to quickly deploy and launch a devastating attack on enemy targets. *Battlegroup Bravo: Defensive Operations and Support* Battlegroup Bravo is focused on defensive operations and support, with an emphasis on protecting vital infrastructure and supply lines. It includes frigate wings and support wings, capable of providing long-range fire support and protecting other elements of the fleet. *Battlegroup Charlie: Reconnaissance and Intelligence Gathering* Battlegroup Charlie specializes in reconnaissance and intelligence gathering, with the ability to rapidly gather and analyze information about enemy forces. It includes frigate wings and light cruiser wings, with the speed and agility needed to quickly survey large areas of space. *Battlegroup Delta: Heavy Assault and Fleet Command* Battlegroup Delta is the heaviest-hitting and most important battlegroup, responsible for leading the fleet in major engagements and commanding the entire force. It includes cruiser wings and battleship wings, with the firepower and durability needed to take on the toughest enemy targets. The sheer calibre of firepower is just... Darn.

[@cross3052]

The original Number One.

[@juliussenegal6668]

First Speaker from the Second Foundation is smiling.

[@weldonwin]

Have you heard the good word about our Saviour Galaxia?

[@stevenmyers6439]

Ah can't wait!

[@johnharrison6745]

The *TALOSIANS* enter the chat. 😉

[@supermega10453]

Nice!!

[@callisto1556]

Dm good video

[@TheBigExclusive]

There's one problem. DS9 establishes that Cardassians have incredible mental defenses. Not even the Vulcans could break into Gul Dulkat's mind with a direct mind meld. The Vulcans literally had their hands on Gul Dulkat's face, tried forcing the mind meld, and Dukat just laughed at their attempts. The Vulcan even looked very tired while Gul Dukat looked fresh and smiling. He said all Cardassians from a young age are trained to protect their minds from such mental attacks. And if Vulcans can't do it (even with directly touching them), then I doubt Betazoids could do it wirelessly.

[@maxwellpauric00]

Well batazoids are more powerful telepaths

[@shitbeausaysofficial]

I wonder if all children have this training? We can't really take Dukat's word fod for it can we?

[@TheBigExclusive]

@@shitbeausaysofficial - At Minimum, I would expect a race as paranoid as the Cardassians to have some sort of mental defense training available for their military personnel. Dukat had to learn it from somewhere. He didn't teach it himself. There is no way Cardassia would invade a world of telepathy without SOME sort of defense against them. Also Betazoid mind reading doesn't seem to work on several species. It doesn't work on Ferengi, Breen, Changelings, and several others. I personally believe that even if a Betazoid could read a Cardassian officer's mind, the information gathered would be questionable. The Cardassian might leak false thoughts to fool Betazoid.

[@MrGunlover12]

It might be that cardasian mental training is focused on hiding ones thoughts as opposed to being able to resist things being put in there minds

[@phoboskittym8500]

Betazoids are far more telepathic, much more powerful, Vulcan telepathy is actually quite limited, requiring contact for the most part, in ancient times they were much more powerful and used psionic weapons. Betazoids are on a whole different level and there are even a rare telekinetics, if i recall correctly. Dina Troi is a very powerful empath herself, but has family members who being full Betazoid are much more powerful.

[@aznsbd]

legate Tolmek maybe the first Cardassian I know of with facial hair.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Macet?

[@aznsbd]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Ok I guess I never noticed that. Thought it was part of his helmet.

[@tommytwotacos8106]

"...and was carried out by Starfleet Marines." I'm sorry, what?

[@MetalheadAndNerd]

It would have been more fitting to introduce some lesser known federation member race, explain that they had kept a standing army "for cultural reasons" and have them send a contingent of marines. Calling them starfleet marines makes everyone shout "why are they burning through security officers if they have real soldiers?!!"

[@tommytwotacos8106]

@@MetalheadAndNerd that would be PRECISELY the question I have. Good way of handling from the writer's perspective. Thanks. =)

[@geekiusmaximus1882]

Starfleet has a war-time army and marines, otherwise there’s no way they’d be able to win the dominion war, you need a ground army to capture and defend planets

[@dmclegg66]

Makes you think about the french in world war 2 under the Nazis I'm sure things like that were going on - the mind attics.