What a $3500 Synth Sounds Like 🤯

[@roscius6204]

For that price, 'turned out pretty good' is about as low as you wanna set the bar.

[@logicalblackman8228]

Not even “pretty good.“ He said “pretty OK“😂😂

[@SomeHeavensStation]

And .75 seconds of song 😂

[@logicalblackman8228]

@@SomeHeavensStation 😂

[@1chaka]

I think he was just being humble about his composition

[@m0-m0597]

could of gotten an Access Virus for half the price

[@Buddhabear43]

So expensive that the company only let you borrow it. 😅

[@neonether]

It’s a new and very small company! 😂 They really are THE coolest guys though, made a deal with me at NAMM to take one home! 🙌🙌

[@OmgItsTheWigeon]

$3500 is a very average price for synthesizers. Many can go well over $10,000 and in some cases, over $100,000. Synthesizers are very expensive and desirable, especially classic vintage analog synths.

[@neonether]

@@OmgItsTheWigeonYou’re comparing a new, hybrid synth’s MSRP to out of production, vintage, second-hand market prices. One is real the other is not.

[@OmgItsTheWigeon]

@@neonether True, but some non second hand synths like the Moog One or virtually any eurorack setup can easily catch up to the price of it. $3500 is still a lot, and definitely more than anything I've ever spent on a synth.

[@thedelacruz]

Meh..too much money

[@laurenislost]

I’ll wait for the Behringer clone

[@RupasCoherence]

for $399

[@happyjessus]

@@RupasCoherence Thanks. I couldn't find any info on the price!

[@laurenislost]

@@RupasCoherence lol for real? I was joking but that’s pretty rad?

[@codymchardy7465]

For real

[@rtxf]

What are these comments ??😂 the guy was obviously playing into the joke

[@mrpzak]

If yall interested its msrp is 5k

[@brian_hibbs]

They are on crack for that.

[@busti4552]

That’s actually a pretty normal price for that kind of hardware.

[@juliansvidal]

Fuck thaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

[@theinnerdreamer7043]

It’s 3500. Full key board version is 5k….

[@mrpzak]

@@theinnerdreamer7043 that’s correct. Thanks for the clarification

[@futur_sunds]

That cinematic track that you showed for like 2 seconds at the end was super sick. I want more of that

[@VenusTheory]

Clip is from one of my recent live streams if you want to hear the full thing! The one about killer swedish robots haha.

[@futur_sunds]

@@VenusTheory ha ok thank you

[@ignite137]

The Berhinger one is out now, and it's amazing!

[@randilla]

My thought exactly

[@poetika3477]

whats it called

[@randilla]

@poetika3477 Wave. It's $399

[@ignite137]

@ Behringer Wave it's 599 euro

[@randilla]

@ignite137 lol your right typo

[@ptkelly80]

What I don’t understand is how did we go from synths with 16-part multitimbral engines 30 years ago (JV/XV, Wavestation, etc) to $5k synths today that only have 4 parts (the wavestate is another offender, albeit cheaper). Why are we regressing? Apart from the Blofeld, Essence FM, and the Integra-7, there’s not much out there with those features, and two of those three are more than a decade old at this point.

[@tezeta3725]

I've wondered the same thing. Its kinda a similar story with samplers. I get that part of it is because of cheaper units in order to target more casual musicians, but even a lot of the pricey stuff is way more limited than it used to be.

[@mooted5513]

It’s marketing now. “Omg you can make it like 80ies synth but no aliasing wooooooow”. Net outcome: nothing much beyond a 5k price tag. No one listens to an 80ies song and go “if only it weren’t for the aliasing”. This is niche market crap.

[@colinrussell2017]

​@@mooted5513Yup. You beat me to it. MARKETING.

[@muchlovefromfinland]

There are plenty of multitimbral instruments out there nowadays, what are you on about? Pretty much all of the notable arranger keyboards, workstation keyboards, backing track modules, Wersi and Yamaha electric organs and a lot of the samplers. There are plenty of options to choose from if you actually need multi-timbrality in hardware (which not even most professionals do nowadays because of the convenience of the DAW).

[@jeffhayesexperiment]

@@mooted5513ya it’s for 80s synth collectors. I think it’s sounds kind of lame but I just don’t love that sound. So many better options for the price than this thing!

[@MrCoov]

The 3rd Wave is at its heart a wavetable synthesizer with PPG and modern modes, but it does so much more, (sampling, analog, FM, sequencing, MPC etc), and sounds great doing it. Plus... 24 voices and 4 parts always available. It sounds so good IMHO because the synth is doing exactly what it says it is doing without any compromised signal processing, electrical components or signal paths. We made it do everything it is doing, including the analog path, as inexpensively as a very small company could do it, without cheaping out on anything that you are hearing, seeing, or touching.

[@mitriacatani974]

that cinematic fart was absolutely ispiring

[@colinrussell2017]

Gonna have to wait for the Berhinger knock off 😔

[@Bansenshukai9]

I’d rather re-mortgage my house (if I had one), and get into debt to buy the real thing than buying ANYTHING from those Berhinger kũňťz.

[@morpheoist]

well, essentially, even if it's not the same thing, the Roland jd08 has four sounds, two sequencers, some effects and does several interesting things. it's very 90s but you can obviously make sounds more suited to the years as well as later. it costs ten times less and I assure you it is very cinematic 🥰

[@damascus21]

I could have sworn you were Vince Gilligan before i clicked on this clip

[@lummsmusik3219]

Have a look at the brand new Fred’s Lab Manatee synth. 4-part spectral synthesis. Very exotic but affordable and sounds amazing.

[@stdm7964]

Went and looked up the price and I did indeed make those exact noises

[@neonether]

Can’t praise this one enough, zero regrets!!

[@O-Naut]

Anyone wondering what the 'Cool Drums' Kontakt Library is that Cameron uses in the vid, It's KeepForest - Berserkr.

[@Rami-bi9xj]

thats why i felt it looked similar to devastator breakout pro, lol

[@SawWaveSurfer]

What's the Kontakt Library for the drum hits called?

[@roopy7422]

Mate, your videos look like a friend's video messages in the morning, and I'm loving it Great content, keep going!!!!! 🙂👍

[@TheMelodyGod]

I can vouch and say this s an amazing piece

[@mixemmixam295]

3500€ for:“ I think it sounds pretty okay“ haha

[@Boy_Cat_Camper]

That’s wild how it can play 4 different oscillations at the same time with up to 2 effects. I would get so lost in that thing.

[@Jimmyknapp2]

One of those synths you recognize at a glance, but know it's $$$. I'm going to need 16 voices if I ever fork out that much money on a single device.

[@natethebesttt]

4 voices is for that price is a social experiment akin to you know who.

[@CoolColJ]

it has 24 voices...

[@goonfish]

These people don't even know *what* they want or how to find it... nevermind simply Googling a spec breakdown on their own and understanding what to look for! I've noticed a lot of the trashtalk & criticisms in the comments are from folks who only pick up on marketing buzzwords & trendy feature descriptions, yet don't know the difference between polyphony & multi-timbrality lol. And they seem perfectly content with this surface level understanding of complex concepts and hating every new device that comes out!

[@Danksix]

I had to check the price and... Holy shit.

[@IDontKare8014]

“I love 80s stuff as much as the next person” Now I’m scared to swipe 😳😳😳

[@chinossynthesizer705]

Would have been worth 3k if it had all waveforms from prophet vector vs, and esq-80 were in it. Or some crazy 80s Dk synergy addictive synthesis sounds.

[@rmatson]

Nice new haircut!! (More seriously, thanks for the review! Love the bit you made!)

[@stickster]

Love how you warped this thing's sound to make it your own. Rock on Cameron! 🤘

[@41AIproductions]

WOWWW 4 part multitimbral in 2024 WOWWW! Waldorf Q, Novation Supernova 2, Korg Radias and Access Virus say hi from the 90s/early 2000s!!!

[@bobzmuda3940]

Combat Vapor Deathwave made me spit my drink out 😂😂😂

[@natethebesttt]

4 voices for this price tag is a social experiment akin to you know who.

[@aalyx90]

Its 24 voices, not 4 lol

[@The_Digital_Arts_World]

Yeah … that price tag, with or without the keyboard, makes my head swim. Bucket List item not realized 😮. It would be nice, however to see an in depth demo/tutorial on it to see everything it is capable of doing. I’m sure that is out there in YTland. Thanks, VT!

[@wrmusic8736]

There's also Waldorf M if you care about money

[@ahilkhilkingen6061]

Any chance we can get a long form review video? 😇😇😇😇

[@patrickmanasco5905]

I was honestly expecting it to cost more

[@michelledennett59]

Thank you for showing one of the pioneering and iconic synth masters of the 80’s, Midge Ure (Ultravox; Visage; Slik; Rich Kids et al) is still going strong at 71 years, knowing how he looks after his stuff, he has probably still got the one it showed in the video.

[@carlbowles1808]

You get what you pay for and pay for what you get. 💰

[@CorinHarper]

I feel like im watching an alternate reality version of Steve-o who made the right life choices

[@Saidai64]

those chords from the snippet of the modern example remind me of the super saiyan 3 theme,, so awesome

[@Abrifq]

They should let infected mushroom play with it too

[@alejandromagana1554]

That would be amazing, they turn anything into gold for the ears

[@cablevamp3163]

“To borrow” Yeah greedy company I’ll pass

[@MrTomaat23]

That's a joke right?

[@skarajmusic]

They're not a big company, probably around 3-5 people.

[@robotman5105]

They borrow it because the company wants to pass around one synth to multiple reviewers so people can actually have information about their product, is that such a bad and greedy thing?

[@rotisseueryu]

@@MrTomaat23tf do you mean are you joking? Is it really a surprise that companies are greedy and full of shitty people? You’re sounding like one of them.

[@MrSmithUK]

I had a PPG 2.3 & Waveterm B, back in the day. I think the 3rd Wave has to be the best replacement for those venerable machines.

[@AbsurdTV1]

or behringer 599 wave synth... hmmm??? which one to get?

[@BixiDoxxes]

missed opportunity to sample them and make it a free Decent Sampler Bank.

[@robbrobb5543]

Laughs in modular 😂 that's like not half of one of my systems. Shits pricey but so worth it.

[@RivetHead999]

6 months later I’d be like “I swear, I put it in the mail. I don’t know what happened to it” then go play some more with it.

[@dustinhodell]

That was so anticlimactic! Would definitely wanna see a lot more out of something with that kind of price tag!

[@fentanyljones6956]

This looks like such a rad instrument.

[@joy1ess]

no. with wave synthesis you can definitely create sounds that do not have to sound 80s at all. i might even buy one myself 😔

[@bengsynthmusic]

For the money, it's better to buy Nina with its motorized knobs.

[@oli1181]

Nice to see a clip of Midge Ure in there

[@PoisonedAl]

Cool but there are so many cool VSTs, often for free, that can do the same, if not better. And even if you want to use hardware, for that money you can start building yourself a modular synth. To me, synths like this are just there to look pretty. Those that want the sound use software. Those that want the hardware would rather spend the money on something that was found in an East German skip that smells faintly of rat pee when you turn it on.

[@yeowool404]

do you have any free/paid soft synths recommendations by any chance??

[@DKH712]

It's also not worth the money to me, but saying it's just there to look pretty is a bit of a stretch. IMO software and hardware purists are both equally ignorant

[@PoisonedAl]

Oh sweet baby Jesus on a bike where do you begin? There are so many really good free VSTs out there. But the obvious one is Vital. It's more or less a free Serum which is almost an industry standard. There are differences but still. @@yeowool404

[@Johanthegnarler]

You just aren't the target demographic and that's ok. Like you said, VSTs are there for the rest.

[@musicingflowing]

​@@yeowool404Many, including myself, like Diva and Serum. Also, Omnisphere. Have been recently been playing around with Pigments, and enjoying that, too.

[@dreamshots_PIB]

"Laughs in Moog & Vector Synths" 😂

[@SpideyVids]

Thing is, the PPG 2.2 with the wave terminal had sampling capability which opened it up to a plethora of sounds. This one doesn't do that.

[@chinossynthesizer705]

You can sample your own waveforms into the 3rd wave, but the original ppg wave forms are probably generated by an old computer that could additive synthesis.

[@katana2seppuku]

Damnnnnn das a lotta dough

[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

my guess is $300 to make in parts and it is selling for $3000. Now to check the price.

[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

ok saw the price and my thought was. oh inflation. didn't realize it is getting that bad.

[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

to be honest though I saw that it was moog and immediately was like well its not behringer so I better double my estimate cause they probably paid someone to design it.

[@watercolourmark]

​@@WilliamAshleyOnline - Someone is paid to research, design and make every product.

[@suga4all]

Well, the module is 3.5k, which is not exactly cheap, but quite normal for this level of hardware. It is in OBX8 territory but surely also has a similar legacy to it. 🔥🔥

[@cameronmaxwell286]

I need that drum patch 😩

[@cowbless]

imagine we had more computers suitable for more general tasks, and for a fraction of the cost too though

[@AudioReplica2023]

Thats a beast of synth

[@maramé.r]

I wonder how it compares to the $600 Behringer Wave considering the enormous price difference and whether the extra few thousand $$ can be justified

[@arthurallsopp9344]

$3500 LOL I will just buy 4 Ensoniq ESQ-1's with 8 voices each for under $1500 and Have a REAL 80's BEAST with real Analog Filters.

[@零云-u7e]

I'm gonna buy the new Reface DX for bedtime fm. For that kinda money, I would do a polybrute or Access Virus thing.

[@stickyfox]

What was the MSRP of the Korg T1, or the DX7 or any flagship synth that ever came out? What did they sound like? The 90s Musician's Friend catalog spawned a generation of musicians who care more about the price tag than the sound. Some books should never have been printed.

[@kidkique]

You weren't even alive in the 80s

[@XeonFolf]

I'll wait for a VST plugin clone.

[@theboxflower]

Good thing this guy is Master of Coin on the king’s small council

[@angsta22]

wow.. 4 voices at once?!!! PC Soundcards were doing that in 1992 and didn't cost 5k lol

[@DKH712]

No it has 24 voices and 4 layers, meaning it can do 4 different presets at the same time and it distributes the 24 voices over those 4 presets. The reason it only has 24 voices is that it has an analog filter on all these 24 voices, so that's 24 separate filter chips (those can get expensive). If you want high quality emulation of analog filters on a PC, your best bet is a VST like U-He Diva. If you open up 4 different instances of Diva with some complex presets and in total 24 voices there's actually a decent chance you'll overload your CPU (if you have an average computer). So yeah it's more impressive than you think. 3500 is still hella expensive though, but there is a decent reason for the price.

[@Unikladhalo]

I wonder how the new Behringer Wave compares or how much lower its retail price is. Heh-heh.

[@ralemusicofficial]

KEEPFOREST!!! LETS GOOOOOOOO!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@bycorduroy8269]

there’s no way would I do a promo video for a synth manu that doesn’t even let me keep it…

[@WROB3L]

i lack musical imagination but would still love to have that

[@littlebritain64]

how much Is nowadays the old big Waldorf "The Wave"?

[@nateh2665]

So it's $3500 but sounds like it's 40 years old 😆

[@withlove1887]

How about Korg Microstation ? Can it do synthesis as well ?

[@oddball119]

Me with my 30 dollar midi controller from Amazon watching this

[@christopherknowles]

$3500 is wildly cheap for a good synth.

[@ElSatanicHispanic]

Welp, I guess I have to save up $3,500 now.

[@trittyclothing]

You could start a small studio for the same price, but if you can afford it get it. Looks/sounds great.

[@PsychologyAcademia]

Whats with the Buzzcut. You joined the army?

[@thomasrobinson182]

Behringer has a clone in the pipeline...

[@Imetalman2000]

Perfect example of diminishing return when it comes to gear prices. 😅

[@Pabloesc571]

2500$ for a synth that makes useless sounds great

[@rayy1of1]

They foul for not letting you keep it bro

[@johnreview1]

For that price tag I’ll stick with my Korg Modwave lol

[@reliefmango6]

I thought he owned it 😂

[@bobbriggs-firmin1560]

If I ever win the Euromillions lottery I will send one to you. I’m sure if anyone deserves one, you are first on my list.

[@LinXnerd]

We have to pry the money from the rich person's hand somehow. So, why not with this awesome toy? 😬👍

[@Studio22mix]

The 1% own almost all resources … So why not everyone one for Christmas 😊

[@logicalblackman8228]

I’ve never even heard of the PPG. I’m no synth guru, but I’m in my 50s. I’ve heard of most of the classic synths, the Moogs, the Arps, the Prophets, the Jupiters, the Obies, etc. Don’t know any records that the PPG is on.

[@ASAPJermz]

Hip hop & R&B Producers: NOOO 🗣️😂

[@averagejackmedia609]

5k later "I mean, it's allrightt"

[@Vingul]

In effect he said the synth sounds dope, it’s his track that’s just alright.

[@TheCoolProfessor]

Are you seriously telling me there's a preset called FART?

[@davewoodsmusic]

You'll soon be able to get the Behringer for under $1000

[@eazypeazy33]

Those drums reminds me of The Wall movies funeral song..

[@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers]

“Combat Vapor Deathwave”? Just how many musical genres are in existence today? Any guesses?

[@natethebesttt]

As many as there are stars in the night sky which is as many bedroom producers there are in North America alone.

[@hellf.o]

THANKS BEHRINGER

[@urzathehappy72]

I cant watch vids of anything over $500 cuz its just torture lol . nice haircut lookin good

[@RANVAC]

Phaseplant can do all that with the sex to each group of oscillators which can be limitless number of wave tables. This looks pretty amazing though as a standalone piece of hardware.

[@user-vd3if4wq6m]

So jealous wow. my ob6 was pretty expensive...close

[@Studio22mix]

I don’t mind, it’s blue so must be great The 25 anniversary Massive Passive also ❤❤😢😮😊

[@marcinha1973]

Sounds like a synthesizer.

[@NicolasMelis]

whats the kontakt drum library name?