Vercel’s Glenn Hitchcock & John Pham - Design engineering deep dive (Dive Club Ep. 46)

[@AbdulWahab-pk4jx]

Very insightful episode

[@joindiveclub]

glad you enjoyed it!

[@ericsonl_]

Thanks for this episode 🔥

[@LaurensiusAdiKun]

I really love this episode, as an engineer who can design, I'm still looking for ways to grow, and this helps me figure out the trajectory.

[@joindiveclub]

think you're going to like tomorrow's episode then :)

[@eihab]

Great episode full of valuable insights 👏

[@israelxrex]

Thanks for the episode

[@joindiveclub]

glad you liked it!

[@srdjan.despic]

Hey Ridd, I remember your post from few year ago where you said that learning Webflow was more valuable then a 10k frontend bootcamp. Do you think the Framer offers the same value when it comes to learning about web dev concepts?

[@joindiveclub]

fantastic question. It's funny... because I think Framer is more intuitive which does mean you lose a bit of this lol.

[@srdjan.despic]

@@joindiveclub Hey, thanks for the quick answer, quick follow up question. If you were starting over and your goal was to learn more about frontend so your designs would become more feasible would you still choose Framer, or would you go with Webflow? 🙏

[@joindiveclub]

@@srdjan.despic I would still choose Framer :) There are other ways to learn Frontend principles.

[@jou-anchen7840]

is john on a treadmill?!

[@joindiveclub]

yes 😅

[@AbdulWahab-pk4jx]

Hahaha I thought the same 😂

[@lochieaxon]

Nice

[@realitydesigners]

Designers should learn code.

[@RazvanBadea]

or developers should learn how to design?

[@A6warzone]

​@@RazvanBadea As a designer, nah. It is much more valuable to be able to build a poorly designed product than being able to only make prototypes.

[@k-yo]

@@RazvanBadea I did that. No regrets, I feel I'm a much more valuable team member in any team, but especially in smaller ones.