I think a person would be happy with either, beats splitting by hand. I remember your old splitter, I believed I named it Chuck. Geez, that last time you tried to start it, didn't you pull it like 60+ times!? We can all have a good laugh now, but you were one unhappy Canadian at the time. Your moving up in the world! Take care.🍁🍁🍁🍁
@sawingwithsandy3 күн бұрын
Hahah I nearly pulled my arm out with that old splitter. I was a Len angry Canadian which means I almost thought about saying a curse word lol
@bwillan5 күн бұрын
For a solo firewood operation the Axis (or any commercial vertical splitter) is the way to go, IMHO. You get total control over split size and it will handle any size round. For the 12-22 or horizontal commercial splitters, the bottleneck is getting the wood to the spltter and away from the splitter. It really needs 2 or 3 people to maximize it's capabilities. The 6 way wedge is not that effective unless you have the perfect diameter round. Otherwise you have to resplit. I think the tall 4 way wedge is best along with a box wedge. On a side note, there is another entry in the fast cycle time vertical splitters. It is the Split Fire 1165V. I think it fills the void between the box store glacier splitters and the entry level commercial splitters (Ultra among others).
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
I do like that total control as well.
@jeffpeters10144 күн бұрын
One Eye Customs did a bunch of upgrades on an Axis a while back- worth a watch.
@oldguyfirewood5 күн бұрын
That is a great comparison Sandy. For quick production I love my 22-28 with box wedge and attached conveyor. I think the Axis would be better for precise bundle wood splits.
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
You do have a real nice setup with that unit and the conveyor! I've seen the firewood you can put out with it and it's impressive! Hope we can catch up at the Paul Bunyan show!
@saintaugustine17155 күн бұрын
good morning Sandy myself i believe my choice would be the axis because of the control of the size of wood if you really compere the two you had out there the 22-28 your pieces were bigger if you would of split around the size of those on the axis you would of been faster with the axis a little but not as fast of the 22-28 but the conveyor belt also makes a big plus on the axis but to witch is own to the preference of witch machine and how much wood you produce in a year also have a great day
@buddyreed26233 күн бұрын
Hello Sandy. I like the one you have with the conveyor. I imagine that EASTONMADE has a unit where you just put the entire log on and go to town with it. That machine might not be able to be transported to where you want to use it on your property. Have good days!
@TheHobbyShop14 күн бұрын
They’re all great machines but that Axis would be what I would buy. Thanks for the awesome comparison and personal advice. 👍🏼
@carlmclelland76245 күн бұрын
Sandy, if it were my choice I'd take the vertical splitter with the conveyor. That said, one man buys a Volkswagen while his neighbor buys a Porsche. Whatever works best for you is the machine to get.
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
I'm with ya on that one Carl! Vertical splitters have come on strong lately and now I know why. That being said, I am very happy with the Eastonmade Ultra as that thing was very fast and comfortable to use as well
@sebastienweisser48395 күн бұрын
Excellent comparaison Sandy ! That answers some of my questions about the axis. Getting more and more sold on it! The new version really seems to be fast! Almost too fast after few hours when your attention and focus may slip up a bit! (time for a good old "sludge" break then! " Tks again and keep up the good work sandy! Any email adress i can contact you at for various questions ? happy to give you mine (where?)
@DavidRobinson-mx6cl5 күн бұрын
Awesome job brother , very nice information also between different types of splitters , got some thinking to do now ! Thanks for sharing !!!!! 😊🙏👍❤️
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
Great to hear form ya David!
@LeBlancfirewood4 күн бұрын
I sell about 12 to 15,000 bundles a year got my axis 3 weeks ago love the axis
@amandadavis972614 сағат бұрын
That’s a ton of bundles right there. Glad you’re loving it. Is your Axis the new version? I should be getting mine within the next week or so.
@LeBlancfirewood13 сағат бұрын
@@amandadavis9726 yes the new one
@contrafax4 күн бұрын
I remember how much faster the ultra was compared to the old dinosaur you used to use.
@gregwitkamp55835 күн бұрын
Your old splitter didn’t start very well 😂 thats an understatement. I would laugh till my ribs hurt. 😂😂😂 watch you work your butt off to get it started 😂😂😂😂
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
lol that old thing was practically a boat anchor
@NeighborlyHomestead5 күн бұрын
Great points Sandy! I like the axis but for me it was too tall to fit in my garage. I bought the 12-22 instead and I love it. - Tim
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
That's a great point about the height. Definitely a consideration right there. Thanks Tim
@boooshes5 күн бұрын
That horizontal machine could work a man to death. Hard to imagine the quantity of big firewood you could produce in a day if you had all your rounds ready.
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
It sure would pump the firewood out at the speed that 12-22 was going. Even though I figured I had a good number of rounds ready to go, before I knew it I was all out
@buckinfirewood4 күн бұрын
Did you get any other wedges with the 12-22?
@robertgreen86955 күн бұрын
As long as it works for you and you are comfortable with it.
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
Absolutely Robert. Whatever is comfortable and fits your needs than that is best
@kensmith49184 күн бұрын
nice comparison
@marcjoanis68623 күн бұрын
Great video Sandy.
@sawingwithsandy2 күн бұрын
Thanks Marc!
@frankdrahos85695 күн бұрын
The Eastonmade machines are nice, but for me in my situation I still prefer my SplitFire 3265. Any day splitting wood is a good day to me! Thanks for sharing your experience.
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
I"m with ya there Frank! Any day out there is a good day. SplitFire makes nice machines!
@obiorah15 күн бұрын
The 12-22 is a Good Machine if your doing Production which Requires a Second Person, The Axis is a Good machine if your working on your own it produces better wood then the 12-22, Both of them Are Excellent, If Your Doing Production 12-22 is the way to go, If Your working on your own or your doing bundle wood or Boiler Wood the Axis is the way to Go,
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
I think you're spot on there.
@timscartoys93215 күн бұрын
Great job Sandy in explaining the differences in these two types of splitters that are as different as apples and oranges! Like we have talked about before, if you had larger, clear rounds, and add a conveyor to the horizontal, the speed that it can produce basic wedge splits is unbelievable, key word is basic!! Any time that you work around knots, or smaller pieces, or even squares, that vertical is second to none!!
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
That's for sure Tim! That 12-22 is super fast with good logs.
@earlzathome5 күн бұрын
Great review Sandy! Eastonmade does produce some very nice machines! I looked at the Ultra and the Axis when I decided to buy a commercial unit, but just couldn't afford the Axis. I really wanted a vertical splitter for many of the reasons you mentioned, so went with a Timber Devil made in Quebec. It's not as beefy as the Axis, but it's fast and has handled everything I've thrown at it. It's the same price point as the Ultra. Even without a conveyor I just set up two totes at the opposite end of the log lift. The wood to sell gets chucked in one, and the not so nice pieces go in the other for me to burn. It is fun making square wood! 😁 I split mine a bit on the smaller side as I sell to a lot of backyard campers. You can always make a big fire with small pieces, but it's tough to make a small fire with big pieces!
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
Hey there Earl! Nothing wrong with that. Sounds like a great machine! I sure do like the square firewood as well haha
@fredanderson55445 күн бұрын
seems to me that you were more particular while using the one loading the tote. in my day splitting was done with a 12lb maul. powered by armstrong. btw, where's the coffee?
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
Hey there Fred! That 12lb maul would get ya into shape in a hurry no doubt. Sludge was back at the shop today. I was quick to draw and finished it off in short order. One of these days I"ll remember to get out my old sludge maker and have it around with me.
@wallacefrey62475 күн бұрын
You make great points for both the Axis and the 1222, and I agree that it basically depends on your budget and what you want to accomplish.
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
For sure Wallace!
@brianwestveer95325 күн бұрын
That 12 22 was really fast,add a conveyor, high production. Thanks Sandy
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
That sure would sling the firewood eh Brian!
@Frontireadventures5 күн бұрын
There is just something about that 12 22 design that is wrong...IMHO you are stuck in one position basically behind the log lift. A good splitter is really easy to move around, gather rounds, move splits etc
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
I think with the 12-22 to keep production up it seems like you'd want to stand on the log lift side just so that you can continually put rounds onto the log lift as the auto cycle is moving
@bay98765 күн бұрын
Vertical splitters are the way to go. Seems like a lot less waste and mess to clean up afterwards with more time for a cold one. Out in the forest, splitting wood can be a great way to enjoy life.
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
I do find they don't make much mess at all as well. Nice size splits from them too. I think even if I stopped selling wood I"d miss splitting for sure
@rodneywroten29945 күн бұрын
I like the Axis
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
Hey there Rodney. It sure has been an eye-opener for me. Up until that point I didn't know what I was missing
@deprived565015 күн бұрын
As much as the Axis is a fine machine, I would have to go with something like the Ultra, just on price alone. And now that I'm out of the wheelchair and using a walker, it's worth looking into getting something like it, for next spring anyway lol. I haven't been able to do anything outside since July 1st, not even little things, and I am sick of sitting around. Good vid. Thanks.
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
Yeah that's understandable completely. Price is always a big decision maker . I hope you feel better before too long
@adirondackwoodsman5 күн бұрын
You need to use a pickeroon to save on the back. I hook the wood and drag it to the lift without bending over. I use the Logrite version.i primarily use the pizza wedge on my 12-22. It works great and I love the extended tray option which allows me to sort the wood coming out of the pizza wedge
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
They are pretty nice to use for sure. I use the Fiskars one and have had great luck with it. The extended tray is a great option! I remember you mentioning how you liked that back when we were chatting in NYS.
@Ridgewood4605 күн бұрын
I like the axis, it works well for a one person operation Have you seen the split fire 1165 v. ?
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
I haven't seen it person yet but if they are at the Paul Bunyan Show I"ll probably see how it looks
@paulfrizzell315 күн бұрын
👍great video, Sandy
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
Thanks Paul! Hope you're having a great week
@paulfrizzell314 күн бұрын
@@sawingwithsandy 😎
@adirondackwoodsman5 күн бұрын
You need to use a pickeroon to save on the back. I hook the wood and drag it to the lift without bending over. I use the Logrite version.
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
I've not tried that version but have seen them and they sure look nice!
@amandadavis972614 сағат бұрын
@@sawingwithsandythey’re nice to work with. Also look at getting a pair of Bahco log tongs. They are awesome as well. They’ll save your back. They have no problem with picking up different sized rounds. Go to Tony’s Cool Tools. He did a review of different brands that he has. He ended up spending my money.
@edklaus24115 күн бұрын
I like the one with the conveyor.
@sawingwithsandy5 күн бұрын
I like that one as well Ed. It's a well-oiled machine