Verner's Law, Part 1 of 3

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Ari Hoptman

Ari Hoptman

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Part 1 deals with the "discovery" of the first consonant shift, which, in effect, gave birth to the Germanic languages.

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@like-a-linda7058
@like-a-linda7058 4 жыл бұрын
I have been studying for 8 hours straight and at this point all i can do is try to not have a hysterical laughing fit at this video in a public library
@anias5871
@anias5871 2 ай бұрын
It’s me but I been studying for an hour😭😭 already had a hysterical attack
@bennpierce2990
@bennpierce2990 6 ай бұрын
I'm not even a student and I think this is awesome!
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 15 жыл бұрын
I am happy to see discussion about my little film. I would only add that, although I had fun making it and am very glad it helped people understand some aspects of VL, I also do not think teachers should feel that they have to rely on such things to get people to learn material. I think clarity and personal interest on the part of the instructor are the keys (along with lots of review).
@SeeWoelfin
@SeeWoelfin 9 ай бұрын
These films are wonderful. They are even useful for serious students... but the background music is overwhelming and disturbs one's concentration. Pity. Otherwise, they are witty, creative... simply delightful.
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 16 жыл бұрын
Whoops - grazie! I'm very glad you found these helpful. I can't BELIEVE how many people have viewed these films already!
@marcosslobato
@marcosslobato 10 жыл бұрын
I just love the way the kolid says "They didn't teach us" LOL
@helenabacovia2926
@helenabacovia2926 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this film! I am about to take an exam in Germanic philology and this was both helpful and funny. Thank you!
@Peti0308
@Peti0308 11 жыл бұрын
I have just had an exam on historical linguistics at uni. Your video did definitely help me!! Million thanks! I got high scores.
@nataliatalapova5763
@nataliatalapova5763 10 жыл бұрын
thank you so much!!! I would love to have the whole history of the English Language this way... much easier for understanding than conventional books...
@dpaszak
@dpaszak 16 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. I wanted to something similar with theoretical mathematics concepts...but never found the time or motivation or cooperation from others.
@Jose-tl6uy
@Jose-tl6uy 9 жыл бұрын
this video was highly enjoyable! thank you!
@rushabhpatel9181
@rushabhpatel9181 4 жыл бұрын
Na bhai na
@Bluntbarbie1
@Bluntbarbie1 11 жыл бұрын
I must say you did a great job...a great source of help for my exams... keep up the brilliant work ...i must consider you my teacher :-)
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 15 жыл бұрын
Hmm. All interesting stuff. I remember being a tad unsure about "house" when I made the film, but for some reason I went forward anyway. I probably should have taken the extra five minutes. As far as the Honorable Mr. Watkins is concerned, if he would be agreeable, I would gladly settle the house/casa matter via Rock, Paper, Scissors.
@WhiteKofi
@WhiteKofi 10 жыл бұрын
thank you for this. "Deutsche Grammatik. Now mit more GRAMMATIK" totally bought me.
@79butters
@79butters 16 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, but I'm Italian. Our German philology professor told us about your videos this morning, they're very useful !
@YasminaPani
@YasminaPani 3 жыл бұрын
I've been loving this video since I was a student and I still do now
@kittensandtheglitz
@kittensandtheglitz 14 жыл бұрын
This is the most awesome thing ever!
@ericxplosion08
@ericxplosion08 12 жыл бұрын
This is so amazing.
@babyoppossums8808
@babyoppossums8808 4 жыл бұрын
Great work, and thank you so much for posting!
@sadafkhan1679
@sadafkhan1679 4 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Really helpful ....made the concepts crystal clear n its super funny ...can't thank u enough.... Plz keep making linguistics videos like this
@CeilingofStars
@CeilingofStars 15 жыл бұрын
Nice! I love the illustrations. I wish I could learn everything this way. :)
@KabeerJay
@KabeerJay 8 жыл бұрын
the ptk - bdg thing also occurs in Malayalam accents of English like income tax - ingum dax simply - simbly
@KabeerJay
@KabeerJay 8 жыл бұрын
Will conjugate verbs 4 food
@Mattthemangler
@Mattthemangler 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid mang
@NiallBecc
@NiallBecc 15 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@Cerith99
@Cerith99 9 жыл бұрын
Just want to point out that Grimm's Law as it is in the video is a grammatical rule in Welsh; the aspirate mutation. That is, in certain situations, a P will become an Ph (f sound), a T will become a Th (th sound), and a C will become an Ch (X in the phonetic alphabet). So for example, the welsh word for "and" is always followed by this mutation. In "halen a phupur" the Welsh word for "pepper" (pupur) goes through the mutation. Funnily enough, the latter part of the video (P > B, T > D, and C > G) also happens in Welsh because of the soft mutation. The Welsh word for "his" is "ei" followed by the soft mutation. So "ei gastell" (his castle) has the Welsh word for "castle" (castell) mutated. So what I'm trying to say is that this is probably why these rules exist in Welsh and it's cool to see that they happened even in languages without mutations.
@cylt5113
@cylt5113 7 жыл бұрын
No, Grimm's Law is not the same as the mutations. eg. "Katt"(Germanic) - "Cath" (Welsh) might be a one example of how it works. Mutations are not grammatical in Welsh but I'm interested in why you think they are.
@orion8835
@orion8835 9 жыл бұрын
fascinating.I like this video tutorial.. it was very well!
@Sabu632
@Sabu632 14 жыл бұрын
i'm pretty sure the entirety of higher education should be presented exactly like this.
@weepingscorpion8739
@weepingscorpion8739 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, Fa(e)roese got a shout-out in this video? And I didn't see this video until today? As a native Faroese, I'm still happy to see it. :)
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 4 жыл бұрын
Weeping Scorpion A native Faeroese speaker!! Too cool! I just ran into a friend who did the intensive Faeroese course years ago, but that’s as close as I’ve come to meeting anyone from there (which isn’t close at all) ...
@weepingscorpion8739
@weepingscorpion8739 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am indeed a native Faroese speaker although I only now realise that I'm using my gaming account to comment here. :)
@duiff
@duiff 15 жыл бұрын
(cont'd) Worth mentioning also that Calvert Watkin's "American Heritage Dictionary of Indo-European Roots" lists a whole bunch of English words ultimately derived from *(s)keu-, but not "house" (nor does it occur anywhere else in this work). I don't know what misgivings he had about mentioning it. Latin "casa" doesn't have a clear etymology either, it's probably just a loan from a substrate language.
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 16 жыл бұрын
Well, thanks! That maketh me smile!
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 16 жыл бұрын
Huzzah! Great to hear!
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 13 жыл бұрын
@dpaszak The first one's called Star Fire, by Bob Thompson.
@robdisner
@robdisner 15 жыл бұрын
Mr. Ferndale would be so proud (and so confused)!
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 16 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is, Mark! It's what separates us from the lower primates!
@eifelanerin3601
@eifelanerin3601 10 жыл бұрын
Actually, the phonological variant [auh] still exists in German! I live in an area called "Eifel", and the dialect there is called "Eifeler Platt". The generation of my mother and grandmother still use this variation of the word . So Grimm was not wrong. In fact, sometimes I'm thinking that my dialect is still very close to the English language. For instance, we say "is" (Eng. "is") instead of "ist". We also say "wat" (Eng. "what") instead of "was". These are just but a few examples. Have a nive day and thank you for this lively, funny and at the same time informing video clip!
@hglundahl
@hglundahl 9 жыл бұрын
1) If "auh" has a voiceless fricative, it is not an exception to Verner's Law, probably, but rather a secondary devoicing. 2) Eifeler Platt is not High German. Any Platt is closer to Dutch than to High German, phonetically, in common words. On the other hand, it may be closer to High German than to Dutch in other grammatical factors, like word choice. So, the form "auh" does not exist in German, as the word is used here, it exists in Eifeler Platt.
@Bjowolf2
@Bjowolf2 9 жыл бұрын
In Danish it's "øje" [oy-e] - and even "øjne" [oy-ne] in plural, which is very similar to "eye" and the ( OE? & ) ME plural "eyen" ( vs. the modern plural "eyes" ). But in Swedish it's however "öga" [oe-gA] / "ögon" [oe-gOn], which is similar to the High German ( and Germanic ) "Auga" / "Augen".
@hglundahl
@hglundahl 9 жыл бұрын
Actually, öga, ögon, definite form ögat, ögonen, used to be ögha etc. with soft variants immediate product of Verner's. BUT around 1700 it was noted that: 1) "t" or very few but common words "d" had replaced "th" 2) "d" or - had replaced "dh" (the Verner product of "th" in certain positions plus some more softening at least supposedly later 3) "gh" had been replaced by: g, -, j Or, when it was really ach-laut (vightight = older "wichticht" or "wichtit" in German spelling), by k. So, every "gh" was replaced in writing by "g", sometimes even a "ghj" by "g". Every "dh" was replaced by "d" (even in "medh" > new spelling "med" although some dialects pronounced it "méé"/"meh"). Every "th" was replaced by "t", except in the few words where it was preplaced by "d". My guess is this might be due to German influence. And perhaps even Polish influence over Swedish as spoken at the Wasa court of Warszaw, during sixty years. Either way, that spelling reform was the last useful one, since it corresponded roughly to a recent sound change in a roughly adequate way. It was officialised by the Bible of Charles XII - the case forms of which were obviously not binding on less archaic usage in secular swedish. But the spelling reforms in 1870's, and in 1906, and the conugation and adjectival declinsion reform of 1950 were totally useless. Without consistency and making pupils having only learned the later versions less capable of reading older literature.
@Bjowolf2
@Bjowolf2 9 жыл бұрын
I see - thanks for explaining in such great detail ;-) Yes, we have a lot those "-dh"s in Danish - often corresponding to the "-th" in E. And all "th-"'s have become "d-" - for instance thu --> du, thet --> det ( that, it ). e.g. både [boa'th-e] = båda [boa-dA] = both, hede [he'th-e] = heath, fråde [froa'th-e] = froth, bade [ba'th-e] = bada[bA-dA] = bath Many "-k"s have also turned into "-g" in modern Danish, unlike in Swedish and Norwegian ( typically ). For instance: bage[bay(gh)-e] vs. baka / bake , tage [tay(gh)-e] vs. ta(ka) / take, rig [reegh] = rik [reek] = rich, snige [sneegh-e] = snika [snee-kA] = sneak, søge = söka = seek, .... and vigtig [veg-teegh/ -deegh] vs. viktig [vek-teeG]
@hglundahl
@hglundahl 9 жыл бұрын
Oh, that is for sure. You forgot p that turned b (pibe), and t that turned d (gade). And "øje" had obviously been "øghe" some time before going "øje", like "öga" had been "ögha".
@duiff
@duiff 15 жыл бұрын
Just found this series, great stuff! It would be great if it could get more people into comparative linguistics. One thing that troubles me is the use of "house - casa" to illustrate the connection k~χ(h). While the h- in AHD/OE "hūs" may very well come from a k- (possibly from PIE *(s)keu- with s-mobile ("to cover"), as in sky, scum, ob-scu-re, but also hose, hoard, hut etc.), I don't see how casa is related to it, and I find no mention of this link in any of the works I have consulted.
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 16 жыл бұрын
Gracias!
@ShaxAMV
@ShaxAMV 13 жыл бұрын
funny and informative, lol amazing
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 16 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dpaszak
@dpaszak 13 жыл бұрын
@AvuncularFeldspar The background music that begins in the part 1 of Verner's Law video.
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 16 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad ya like!
@bea4anrq12
@bea4anrq12 12 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the second headline on the French paper "Le citoyen" at 3:38 reads "Juif Blâmé" (Jews Blamed). Darn, not AGAIN!
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 13 жыл бұрын
@dpaszak Which music specifically? They clips are from varied sources.
@jaimebenito620
@jaimebenito620 9 жыл бұрын
Actually, the root of "casa" is still subject to debate, and the suggested PIE root is *kat- (to braid/fold), whereas house comes from *(s)keu- (to hide).
@dlwatib
@dlwatib 9 жыл бұрын
Jaime Benito de Valle Ruiz What does braiding/folding have to do with housing? I get housing being related to hiding places, but the other seems completely off to me.
@RichardGadsden
@RichardGadsden 9 жыл бұрын
dlwatib thatching for rooves?
@blackopsguy1023
@blackopsguy1023 8 жыл бұрын
+dlwatib watch the xidnaf video about pie. It comes from the word "to thatch."
@sameash3153
@sameash3153 7 жыл бұрын
I wanna believe
@sirbedivere5796
@sirbedivere5796 8 жыл бұрын
Hi! I am an Italian student and I'm in big troubles with Germanic philology . Could someone post in the comments a brief and clear explanation of Verner's law and the way it affects verbs with strong declinations. thanks to anyone who'll answer
@kevinsleebos302
@kevinsleebos302 9 жыл бұрын
Eye in dutch is oog which you pronounce exactly like your second *auh. So yeah.
@wenqiweiabcd
@wenqiweiabcd 5 жыл бұрын
The appearance of the "soft g" of various forms (often spelt 'y' in modern English) in today's Germanic languages is a later development.
@dpaszak
@dpaszak 13 жыл бұрын
PLEASE HELP ME FIND THE BACKGROUND MUSIC FOR YOUR VIDEOS. WHERE DO I LOOK?
@dpaszak
@dpaszak 14 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the background music for this??? What is it?
@Bjowolf2
@Bjowolf2 5 жыл бұрын
Where did the full version go?
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 14 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it goes!
@EllaDiamondAzzurra
@EllaDiamondAzzurra 12 жыл бұрын
great
@tamfang
@tamfang 13 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the Sanskrit word ("taṭaphatvamiti"?) means.
@dpaszak
@dpaszak 15 жыл бұрын
Here, here.
@modzsi
@modzsi 11 жыл бұрын
ok = cause, reason (root), -os = someone who got cause = someone smart (posession suffix). it came to latin from hungarian as many other words shown. Few words built using this as a root: okoska - smarty, okossag = smartness, okostojas = NERD... and so on.
@almondka89
@almondka89 12 жыл бұрын
When you compare it with the word okos. I don't quite get it
@countjulian
@countjulian 7 жыл бұрын
LOL the nagari text does not say "Sanskrit", it says "taTaphalamiti" "तटफलमिति", is that an actual Hindi or Sanskrit word?
@moinkhan1992
@moinkhan1992 3 жыл бұрын
who else watching in 2021??
@79butters
@79butters 16 жыл бұрын
simpatico !
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 14 жыл бұрын
Heck. :)
@mustuploadtoo7543
@mustuploadtoo7543 3 жыл бұрын
Do you like the Beatles?
@DawahBroAustria
@DawahBroAustria 10 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up if you are here because you are studying for Ritt's History of English exam (University of Vienna) :)
@Floriapenguin
@Floriapenguin 4 жыл бұрын
Did he actually spell it “Asiatick” or is that poking fun at him because he spelled everything like that lmao
@NeilWick
@NeilWick 4 жыл бұрын
The suffix -ic used to be spelled -ick or ik(e, -ique).
@bel_burg
@bel_burg 6 жыл бұрын
Who's got the script of this video?
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 6 жыл бұрын
I do - the one who made the video.
@bel_burg
@bel_burg 6 жыл бұрын
Ari Hoptman Naturally xD lol .. but I've already solved my problem just like Verner. This video helped me a lot for my university subject ! Thanks a lot ! 😊 I speak Spanish and there are a few words that I couldn't catch ! That's why I asked for the script ! But I got the most important of it. Again thanks a lot !
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 6 жыл бұрын
I have more stuff I can send you if you still need it.
@ameliadonnier8736
@ameliadonnier8736 4 жыл бұрын
@@AvuncularFeldspar Hello Ari, thanks for these great videos ! I would really appreciate it if you could just tell me what the little boy says at 00:30 ? I'm using this in my English class and my student asked me, and I realized I couldn't hear it either !! (these darn/darned ... ??) Thank you so much!!
@AvuncularFeldspar
@AvuncularFeldspar 4 жыл бұрын
@@ameliadonnier8736 He says "It's just these darned derivations." I don't know why I had him say that, it doesn't seem to be the best word. "Etymologies" would have been better. Ah well.
@manishraj3643
@manishraj3643 4 жыл бұрын
I understood nothing.
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