Versus Series | Auron Vs. Squall Leonhart

My 5th Versus Series match up of 2015 pits The Legendary Guardian of Spira Auron against The Haunted Seed Squall. Who would win if these two came to blows ?
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[@jasmineblankenship5813]

I want to point out one key detail, dissidia's opening cutscene where squall fights sephiroth. It's a brief cutscene, but it is quite accurate in showing his fighting capacity. We're talking about a fight not on a old ff style turn based turn based hack n smack. Squall has much more mobility when compared to Auron. Who's more about decisive strikes than swift ones. Squall has three main elements, but they're not for incredible damage. They're for fighting tactfully. The last cutscene for squalls Dissidia story shows his comprehension, and reaction speed. Which by far, exceeds Aurons, and what a Seeds leader is capable of.

[@MrSergeta]

Interesting video. I enjoy your versus battles and look forward to more, especially regarding FF characters. Just two things came to mind. 1. In Dissidia, Squall does have lightning and blizzard spells. If you're going to factor in Squall's moves in Kingdom Hearts, you should consider Dissidia as well. 2. You might want to consider using Final Fantasy Record Keeper strategy guide website to help gauge future FF fights. The site have stats from numerous final fantasy characters and using those might help evaluating easier. Hope this helps.

[@arlindonascimento6062]

i take it auron is not one of the five final fantasy characters who can beat sephiroth ?

[@MrSlaine]

Are you aware that when Squall's in a summonning phase (waiting for his GF to enter the battle) He's invincible and the damages he takes are tanked by the GF's HP? Which kind of chages a little bit the direction of the fight, making him able to actually summon a GF while taking no damage during the process.

[@vids050]

I will return tomorrow to point out some flaws/issues i see with this. Squall is actually supposed to be the winner of this...

[@3TopicsReviewer]

Well then I look forward to reading your response tomorrow. The debating is always my favorite part of making these videos.

[@vids050]

+3TopicsReviewer I'm back, like I said I would be. first let me say sorry for the length of this post. Second, let me say i like and appreciate your video, despite disagreeing with a lot of it. third, let me say that I'm a big Squall fan, but i also really like Auron and that my post is likely going to seem very very biased because I'm arguing for Squall so much and have admitted that Im a big fan, however everythng i'm saying about him is backed up with facts and/or strong logic/reasoning. The reason I hae not presented as detailed an argument for Auron is because you're already made a pretty one-sided analysis in his favor. fourth - I'm not trying to attack you in this post, so hopefully it doesn't come off that way and you don't take it that way. NOTHING is meant to be personal. with that said, I'm gonna jump into things. This analysis suffers some fatal mistakes/flaws. for one thing, it's not scaled properly - I noticed that you recognize FF7 SOLDIER characters' physical prowess by merit of them being a part of SOLIDER, but you do not recognize that SeeD members, at least the likes of high ranking and talented members like Squall, are in the same realm by virtue of their game's universe. while they aren't doped up on mako energies to become so powerful, they are more than likely on the same ground and should be scaled in such ways thanks to junctioning GF AND magic to enhance their abilities. SeeD members who can use GFs are NOT just mere humans with training. They too, are battle hardened basic-superhumans deployed for the purpose of dealing with the supernatural - sorceresses and monsters. They're obviously in a different class altogether from say Laguna and his military buddies - who were indeed normal military humans with training. Guardians on the other hand CAN be normal run of the mill humans. minimum Guardians are very inferior to minimum SeeD members (note - not cadets, who are students in training). it's possible this gap is shrunk at higher levels, but not enough to give Auron the edge. Squall is actually in a physical class of that like Zack and Sephiroth. You also unfairly compare them. When comparing these characters it's wrong to put them at their strongest/highest level, give them their strongest weapons, acknowledge most aspects of their game's gameplay,, but then deny one of these characters (Squall) some the most basic things we know he'd need to rely on within his game's gameplay. You do this and the result is that Squall is very ill-equipped for this fight against a character (Auron) who has more at his disposal as a direct result from his game's gameplay mechanics. aside from overdrives ff10 gave character's extra abilities based on magic points and the character themselves, FF8 didn't do this *with it's characters* but they did get abilities dependent on what GFs they had equipped. we all know that FF8 characters are dependent on magic which they have drawn from spots or enemies, and the GFs they have equipped - this is just another way they are dependent on them. it's wholly unfair to equip Squall his weakest known or possible ones when WE KNOW he'll have a strong one equipped that gives him some nice abilities and/or enable great defenses. If Auron has the things he relies on as a fighter, Squall should have his - at least aside from "special" or "secret" optional *encounters*. I understand this may make things a little murkier, but it's something to take into some degree of account. this is an even bigger issue when we recognize that Auron is not too strong against magic. it's his "weakness" if we had to say he had one - and THAT is the reason he fell to Yunalesca. Magic and Magic defense (and speed) as stats of his that are naturally very inferior to his others.

[@vids050]

+3TopicsReviewer (continued) You reference KH Squall, but do not recognize Dissidia Squall. Dissidia's Squall proved to be such a strong and capable swordsman/combatant that he proved capable of defeating the WoL in a one on one among other things... at least Dissidia is a FF title. referencing KH squall is also weird when despite him clearly being older, you go back to talking about how young Squall is, and how much untapped potential he is.... but i will come back to this. You do not appear to be recognizing Squall for who and what he truly is... a LEGENDARY SeeD member. He also became the commander of his Garden. you putting him at the bare minimum of magic he has drawn or has or whatever, and put him at the bare minimum regarding GFs, is an insult and a travesty that ails him with a significant gimp/nerf. at some point in the video you recognized Sephiroth for being a LEGEND in his game and among his elite military group. you recognize Auron as being a LEGEND in his game and among Guardians. You ignore that Squall too, is a LEGEND in his game and within his elite military group... this is major. NON-legendary SeeD specialize in strong para-magic... so of course Squall would have very strong magic at his disposal as a legendary SeeD and Commander. this is why talking about his untapped potential is very odd... to be talking about his untapped potential, you almost have to be talking about Squall from the beginning of FF8. I'd say you're basically taking Squall right off the infirmary bed, putting him at lvl 100, and handing him the lionhart and then pitting him against Auron -- almost no experience, and very close to naked as far as magic and GFs go. When talking about the physical edge... you're going too much on things that are minor or basically irrelevant. their height difference is a minor 2 inches. contrary to popular belief Squall is 5'10".... and Auron is 6'0". the FF wiki page for Squall clarifies this mistake. You talk about their ages... there is no basis of comparison about their physical edge when referencing their AGE. Squall is 17-18 in FF8, idk how old KH Squall is, but i know he's older and he looks like a grown man in his prime -- but regardless, this isn't truly relevant because there's no way to determine anything from this. saying squall isn't at his prime is ONLY relevant if we know that his prime is equal to or less than Auron's prime (which we don't know) and even that would be undermined by the fact that squall junctions GFs and magic to enhance virtually everything about him - this essentially accomplishes the tasks that SOLIDER did in FF7 using mako energies. You say Squall isn't cut out for a battle of attrition - a statement clearly based on nothing but aesthetics and the idea that he's just a 'still developing" youngster. You wouldn't be saying this about an 17 yr old SOLIDER 1st Class though, and that's essentially what you have in Squall - except instead of just 1st Class, he has the title of LEGEND. consider what the cast had to go through in FF8 -- to reach Ultimecia they had to endure fight after fight, and then the battle with Ultimecia "traversed time and space" so saying that he isn't fit for a battle of attrition is completely unfounded. with this said, it's pretty clear Squall has the physical edge - he has the physical prowess that is above that of the average SOLIDER 1st class - who you suggest auron MIGHT be able to contend with (which means you acknowledge they have the edge) - and he's faster than Auron. *advantage Squall*. If they are stripped bare, than auron MIGHT have the edge but that makes absolutely no sense to do here. Weapon is very close. certain things you acknowledge are irrelevant to this comparison - things like "first strike" and "counter" and the damage de-limiter are irrelevant for this comparison unless we're just talking about their usefulness within their respective games, or outside of a mutual game setting that's turn based in some way. those things are just as irrelevant as Squall's (weapon determined) 255% hit rate and the FACT that he never misses when striking in FF8 -- even when blind. I'm under the assumption that this to be a live and active battle - the likes of which we might dream of in a movie or animation or CG scene.... so those gameplay mechanics have no place. some abilities like doubling strike/hit power or ignoring a target's defensive strength IS significant though. one of Lionheart's enhancements is it's increased range too btw. you are mistaken about Lionheart's rarity too - it's NOT a common thing that others should be expected to have or even be capable of using. Squall and Seifer are the ONLY gunblade users in their world/game due to how difficult the weapon is to master, and this was always something implying squall's skill. IMO Squall should have the advantage here thanks to gunblades naturally being a superior weapon to swords (including katanas), and the fact that it enables Squall to be able to use Lionheart - which is simply beyond devastating and, if i'm not mistaken, it's the most damaging attack that any FF game has given it's playable characters (aside from Zell's limit break, which is somewhat random and almost 100% player dependent). but this is close toss up, and I'm willing to say Auron has the edge here.

[@vids050]

+3TopicsReviewer (continued again) Tactics... This too should be a toss up or a push, since both are so highly skilled, experienced, talented, smart.... and BOTH are "legends" in their own right. both are competent to compensate for their deficiencies or weaknesses to the best of their ability. You are incorrect in your recounting of the events that resulted in Squall getting his scar though. while the magic attack could have lead to squall defeat, it is a FACT that they were merely sparring and seifer CHEATED. the reason Squall was caught by surprise and knocked down, is because seifer used magic WHILE TRAINING. The way Squall speaks of it later in the game clearly shows that Seifer cheated: "Squall: It's a good opportunity to test out my training. Thanks to you, I feel like I can take on anyone. Even if they do fight dirty, like you. Seifer: You'll thank me when the time comes." Seifer's speed and style isn't something that particularly presented problems for Squall either. they're rivals and close in skill, so it's not a surprise they go back and forth. this is how their match in the cutscene goes - they start out and neither is really giving or taking any ground - it's a just a lil back and forth... then seifer taunts squall to bring it on - gesturing with his left hand extended. squall charges him and seifer uses a few pokes and slashes that squall parries and dodges (this is part of what you show in your video) and then squall counter attacks and seifer blocks overhead attack while being slightly pinned down... seifer then finally deflects the blow and swings at squall who ducks and then evades (jumping backward - dissidia style actually lol) the next swing... then squall brings his own attacks to seifer and seifer is being overwhelmed by the strong blows (you can see him reeling back and grimacing) before he tries to counter attack and again squall evades it then begins to charge in to attack after seifer's miss... it is at this point that seifer uses magic. this telling of events in the fight makes it clear that seifer cheated after being pressured by a flurry of attacks from squall. call me crazy but i'd say that is what caused/pushed him to use magic like he did. Squall was getting the better of him, and he got pissed off. sorry to spend so much time on this during an already long post, but i think it's important to clarify all of this. when it comes to battle tactics, they should be even at best for Auron. if not even, squall gets the advantage considering he's been the LEADER of his teams/groups time and time again throughout the game. Auron is NOT the leader of the group. he does serve as somewhat of a guide and mentor to everyone but that's simply because he's already done most of what they're going through. almost NONE of it is new for/to him. Squall on the other hand is leading against armies and having to make decisions and plans on the fly. there's much more of an argument to be made for him when it comes to tactics and strategies to apply. when it comes to IN BATTLE tactics, we know Squall is also very smart and very adept in using magic - and strong magic at that. he knows what magics to use and when, and he *logically* DOES have them at his disposal - being a legendary SeeD with a lot of experience (despite being young). overall battle experience is probably the one area that Auron SHOULD legitimately have the edge here - because he's lived about 2 times as long as Squall. but that doesn't compensate for everything else Squall has over him regarding arguments to be made regarding tactics. I'm not saying that Auron is definitely inferior here, I'm saying "the stronger argument to be made" is in Squall's favor. *advantage Squall*. the arguments you made for Auron in this video work ONLY when you gimp Squall by ignoring that he is a legend in his own right and would have plenty of useful and powerful magic not only available, but junctioned to augment his natural ability. saying squall would be so straight forward is based off a sparring/training match where magic clearly wasn't supposed to be being used.... so you're building you argument off unfair or false premises. you're right about this matchup being one-sided, you just chose the wrong side. You didn't power-down BOTH characters so much as you severely powered down ONE of them (squall) while leaving the other quite strong, and you did this by mostly nullifying their magics, which is what squall is far more reliant on - for ranged attacks, junctioning and stat augmentation, countering the status effects that Auron can put on him, and applying to himself or auron. strong and useful magics like dispel/esuna, meltdown, and aura are clearly not being allowed in your video -- but we both know that a legendary SeeD and commander like squall would have this at his disposal given his experiences and status -- Hell, if we assume that he never had them at his disposal that would be he's FAAAAAAAR stronger/better than we ever knew - given that he was still able to overcome Ultimecia and struck so much fear in her lol. this isn't really part of my arguments or points, but just a correction - when you speak of GF summoning, you make it clear that you're under the impression it would take a long time and squall leaving himself wide open... logically, this isn't the case. we know from the game that the more a character uses a GF the faster he can summon it, so why would you imagine squall being in this fight using a GF he's not highly familiar and compatible with? this is counter-intuitive to everything else being done. any GF squall would have junctioned would be one he's familiar with, and in the case he summons it, it WILL NOT take long and leave him so vulnerable. this is the kind of skew/slant that much of your video's comparison had. There's some other details that aren't explored which also would have made it clear that Squall should have the advantage in all of this... for example - their main/final antagonist. Ultimecia is a time which, and is basically all powerful by the time she is confronted by Squall and company. despite this and all the measures she tried to take to prevent him for defeating her, his strength is such that he is able to do so and fulfill his destiny. This speaks volumes of his strength and skill. Sin on other hand, despite it's destructive power, doesn't hold a candle to Ultimecia's powers AND was dealt with in far less direct ways, and NOT spearheaded by Auron. Squall clearly should have the advantage in this match-up and should be the winner of this comparison and match. for this comparison to be a "fair comparison" (not actually slanted in to favor one over the other) it has to be done more similar to how i'm suggesting things, and that obviously works in Squall's favor. to clarify, mine is one that not only puts them at their highest level and with their strongest weapons, but also gives them their better/strong abilities, or at least acknowledges that they have various ones at their disposal - plenty of which the others logically has an answer for... and it disallows for abilities/things that "shouldn't count" such as "winning by casting death magic" or other random instant win magics... and also disallows for some game limitations and/or rule-breakers (like HP being 9999 as the highest for Squall but then allowing auron to deal an attack that does 32K of damage lol) to have an influence on the fight. at the same time, because i consider things this way i will only say who has or should have the advantage and who "should" win... i will not just outright declare that one will defeat the other as if it's so simple... fights and competition are often not like that, after all. /endofpost

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+vids050 Wow Vids050 I must say this one of the best arguments I've seen in a while. I really admire the amount of detail you put in this response and thou I seriously disagree with some of the points you brought up I admire your willfulness to defend your points. Thank You for sharing them with.

[@LordFerbombi]

what's the beginning song with the trumpets?

[@dombombed]

I don't think squall was designed to be some legendary warrior hero. I think he's more about character growth than anything. that's why (I'm assuming) they don't really make clear of every little combat feat he's capable of. he's all about growing up, saving the day, and saving the girl. you don't have to be some legendary Guardian or shinra experiment to do that and that's what I think the whole point of his existence is. tldr; it's dumb to pit squall against anyone because being the best isn't what he's about.

[@ironwolg]

+basura he was an exceptional warrior and swordsman but that's about it. no grand superpower like mako or jenova cells or a blessing of light or anything like that. the character development really is what makes 8 great.

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+Perry D Well said Perry D

[@user-nu8vw1ow4n]

SQ : Limit Break!! old man Auron : No.. Homerun Boy!!!!! (Bang)

[@philipthedarknessmarch3295]

That was very one-sided but still SO AWESOME and i would love to see SQUALL & SIFER vs ZACK & CLOUD

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+Philip The Darkness March Hahaha, Squall and Seifer teaming up thats funny.

[@philipthedarknessmarch3295]

3TopicsReviewer Ya the enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of thing.

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+Philip The Darkness March but squall and cloud are friends. A better match would be Sephiroth and Seifer Vs. Cloud and Squall

[@philipthedarknessmarch3295]

3TopicsReviewer I thought about that one but Sephiroth dose not strike me as a team up guy more like a FUCK YOU I'M BURNING YOUR PLANET kind of guy :D

[@LoneGamerNerd]

I'm going to have to agree that, while interesting _(I did learn some new things about Auron at least, lol)_, this is way too one-sided in Auron's case. However, I especially want to note something regarding GF. Though characters are practically defenseless when summoning them, they moreso become inactive than "defenseless". Their focus goes into summoning the GF - but the lighter side of this, is that the GF *will take any damage in place of the summoner*. This would effectively leave Squall still able to battle, but his summon would now be rendered useless and inaccessible. That's why the HP bar for the GF appears over the character's - the GF basically becomes an invisible wall and serves as a means of protection or "guarding" until they can actually perform their attack. Plus, keep in mind that Squall can also junction more than one GF, which also increases his physical capabilities even higher. I admit that I too am a Squall fan, but this video only troubles me in the sense that you did overlook some things pertaining to Squall and FFVIII's mechanics. _-(Though this does give people yet another "reason" to completely doubt Squall's capabilities)-_ And as another person said in the comments - Squall's skills are constantly referred to in any description of the character. SE clearly designed him to be a much more proficient fighter than people seem to acknowledge.

[@3TopicsReviewer]

I first off would like to thank you for commenting and allow me to clear some things up. In terms of Squalls skill level I'm am in no way discrediting his abilities as a fight and I am fully away that his SeeD training would have made him an expectational fight. But compared to Auron who has has much more training and combat experience I just can't see him being at Auron level by the age of 17. Give him an extra 5-10 years and I could see them as equals. Going into the use of GF I am away that casting once will leave Squall open and its the GFs life bar that will take the damage. But as power as Auron is I can't image that a simple GF bar would be able to withstand a full out attack by Auron who would most like attack Squall with a Direct attack with his Overdrives. And I'm am fully aware that Squall can equip more than one GF the question is which ones. There is no source that says exactly which GFs Squall has equipped at any one time. That's up to the player to decided as the only 2 GFs that we know for a fact he has contact with are Shiva and Infrit. And on to the Junction system it does enhance one physical status but you must equip magic to each status and apart from Fire we don't know what spells he know. He has to draw his magic and that again is player decided. I do still feel alittle bad how one sided this ended up being and I already have a different opponent planned for Squall in a future match up that should make the match up much more balanced.

[@LoneGamerNerd]

+3TopicsReviewer I swear - I am really not complaining. Just noting a few things I caught while watching. Although, Squall does also have Quezacotl, whom is a Lightning-elemental summon. You get both it and Shiva from Squall's computer - so he actually has 3 for certain. I will agree on fire magic probably being his sole spell by default. No real verification there - but nevertheless, not too hard to believe. I guess the other person you discussed this subject with said everything else I possibly could... So, I'm finished. That was just my two cents.

[@shadowmomochiuchiha6839]

If we're using their respective games squall would without a doubt win. Squall defeated ultimicia who absorbed an entire universe. not only that he was able to fight her without relying on time or space.

[@ffx95]

Good video, one thing though. In the story time you mentioned Auron traveled 1000 years in the past, he did not. The Zanarkand that Tidus was in was the "Dream Zanarkand". It was a Zanarkand preserved inside Yu Yevon. Reason why after defeating Yu Yevon Tidus started fading away and into the farplane as he was a dream inside Yevon. The real Zanarkand was destroyed 1000 years before the FFX timeline, while the dream Zanarkand was still existent, that is until Yu Yevon's demise.

[@neo4101]

This is completely one sided. How about using Dissidia FF for Squall over KH. Squall has much more at his disposal than Auron does but not all avenues of Squall were looked into.

[@drhino419]

Reconmadation please: Since there are some Final Fantasy characters being compared and contrasted in videos to see who would win, I've been thinking about a fight between two men who later became gods and are separated by one game each. Kefka Palazzo from FFVI and a fan favorite named Sepiroth from FFVII. I would like to surely know who would actually win between the two.

[@ResurgentRaven]

Brian actually posted a video stating the top 10 Final Fantasy Characters that he couldn't use in these versus matchups. Unfortunately, I believe Kefka from FFVI was on that list.

[@nicktheninja3166]

awesome job, I agree with you, but wouldn't squall be faster? just looking at their weapons, squalls is much lighter and easier to use than aurons since its speed strikes vs power blows, that suits each of their play styles. the only real advantage I can think of...

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+NickThe Ninja Your right Nick normally Squall would have a speed advantage over Auron but the magical properties of Auron's Masamune sword would allow him to respond to Squall speed automatically when he is attacked. If Auron was using any other sword then he would be on the defensive more often and would have some difficulty counter attacking.

[@nicktheninja3166]

3TopicsReviewer​ ah I see, forgot about that :p

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+NickThe Ninja If you talking about the DMC vs Inuyasha match up I maybe saving that one for Dec. since doing the research on the Inuyasha characters alone will take a while because I have to research the anime, the manga and the videogames.

[@nicktheninja3166]

3TopicsReviewer I was thinking back to when you talking about cloud vs zack as cloud involved speed strikes to balance out his offences more. I really wanna see vergil vs sethiroth though, cos that would be the battle of my two favourite villians ^^ but tbh any of you vs series is good to watch ^^

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+NickThe Ninja Thank You Nick I really appreciate your comment and am glad I can provide you with some quality content.

[@nfn58]

Good video. Sounds like you got it right to me. So should we get out hopes up for an Auron vs Cloud/Zach battle?

[@3TopicsReviewer]

sounds like an idea.

[@suiko2fan2]

Very thoughtful analysis. Basically comes down to the veteran pro vs prodigious rookie argument. My only pushback would be is your personal reliance on in-game mechanics when it helps your argument, but ignoring them when it doesn't. For example, you say squall could only do his limit breaks if he's near-death even then the Renzokuken's finisher is random, but isn't that just an ff8 mechanic? Couldn't Squall in 'real life' do the limits whenever he wanted and use which everyone he wanted. Of course, FFX has better battle mechanics on a PS2 compared to VIII, so Auron or any ffx character will get that advantage compared to a ps1 limited FF character. I agree Auron would win against this Squall. But Squall's natural fighting skills are so prolific that after 3-5 more years of training, he'd be well beyond Auron. Maybe a good question would be if you placed end-of-game Squall into the FFX world of Spira, what could/would Squall become?

[@ambercarbuncle1440p]

Wait didn't Squall die in FF8 and the last two disks were him accepting death or something like that? I overthink Final Fantasy storylines XD

[@leonardonovais2513]

+Kintaru the Shiny Lucario (Jeremy Powers) That's a lame theory that would make the game fun-less. There's the RInoa is Ultimecia theory though, this one is pretty convincing, although both have been denied by square

[@ambercarbuncle1440p]

+Leonardo Novais Oh. Makes sense.

[@heytherebroski97]

You'd almost have to use an Auron that was from a point where he was the same age as Squall for it to be fair.

[@SolidShepard]

or a Squall that's close to as old as Auron

[@AC-03]

leonhart

[@KittyCate105]

Could you do a Lightning vs somebody please?

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+KittyCate105 I'm am very sorry KittyCate but I refuse to ever us Lightning or any for the FF13 trilogy for any of my versus series match ups. Its personal.

[@KittyCate105]

+3TopicsReviewer Ok, I respect that. What do you think about doing a match up with characters from FF6 then (Terra, Edgar, Celes) ?

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+KittyCate105 Oh yeah I'd love to use characters from FF6. I have really had my eye on using Sabin in a future match up the trick is finding enough images and material for him.

[@ka9091]

+3TopicsReviewer is this cuz you hate 13 i understand even tho i didn't hate the games they could have been better but you really should do lightning vs somebody if your ff fan

[@DemonKingRegalia]

Great video. I was under the impression that Auron was trolling Squall all match long. It's like Squall goes to attack and nope, power break. Then he tries again and nope, armor break. XD

[@xAccuracy1]

I'd love to see a cloud vs auron or an auron vs sephiroth. My 3 favorite characters.

[@SuperAlexia43]

where can i get the picture of squall in the moon please send me a copy i like it

[@TheIllusiveMan07]

i will only say one thing, LIONHEART LIMIT ATTACK then auron go shit xD

[@jds4696]

Good versus match up. I thought this was very detailed and informative.

[@ColonelEstacado]

DAMN auron makes squall trash tier lol. but still this was an interesting match up how about yuffie vs selphie

[@3TopicsReviewer]

I actually would love to do Yuffie vs Rikku

[@ColonelEstacado]

wait thats what i meant i dont know where selphie came from lol

[@ronellgreen4745]

No good job

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+Ronell Green Thank You

[@gilgamesh310]

It was obvious who the winner of this would be. Auron vs Cecil would have been a proper battle!

[@kelseysarmentio5158]

Dude this was a stomp.

[@matthew__creek]

yes...because the one who made this has clearly favored one over the other and brought arguments into this that have little to no meaning at all

[@jakeabinett1712]

Have you ever thought about doing a versus series crossover video like how Antoine Bandele did with Ahsoka Tano vs. Korra and Darth Vader vs. Voldemort? :) I do see a obvious matchup in Vergil vs. Sephiroth somehow being a idea haha. :)

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+Jake Abinett LOL yeah I've thought of doing a Crossover match up before and I actully have done one with my Nathan Drake Vs. Lara Croft match that I did last year. As for Vergil vs. Sephiroth you are actaully the 2nd person today to ask me about that but their is already a video by screwattack that they already did and have a feeling they will be doing a follow up to match up. Here's the link if you'd like to check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpfJmmmuipqmis0

[@jakeabinett1712]

Oh yeah I remember seeing those two videos haha! :) I reckon they might do too, I seem to favor Vergil a bit more than Sephiroth myself hehe.

[@civilwarfare101]

+3TopicsReviewer They really did a good at telegraphing the Death Battle.

[@23traves]

Uh.... 3TR.... Is this next month's matchup or is it replacing the one I requested?

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+23traves Which on was that ?

[@23traves]

+3TopicsReviewer the Sons of Sparda vs the Sons of Inu-Taisho? Aka Dante and Vergil vs Inuyasha and Sesshomaru?

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+23traves I was saving that for the end of the year possibly.

[@23traves]

+3TopicsReviewer I see... Well you only need to update Dante and vergil's data and study up on Inuyasha and Sesshomaru. Anyway I gotcha^^

[@23traves]

+3TopicsReviewer oh and I said before, and I think this should be mentioned in the match-up either as a category or as a side comment In the tactics, that Team-Work is also a deciding factor. And please, if you decide to add in this, please make sure to mention me when you do^^

[@lugina13]

Hmm Vash from Trigun vs Revolver Ocelot? Byakuya vs Vergil. Koon (Tower of god) vs Orochimaru. (That one would be funny actually)

[@dobrozner7784]

If we're going by manga Vash stomps everyone. He's basically an angel with moon level destruction power and the ability to manipulate matter at will. Anime Vash is VERY watered down.

[@SniperSly]

how about Cecil Harvey vs someone... i'm just not sure who yet

[@KittyCate105]

+Enderboy Cecil vs Firion would be cool ;)

[@SniperSly]

***** yes Cecil vs Firion would be great

[@jewwroast]

Late comment. I appreciate your approach to the combatants. However In all the videos I e watched your seem to ha e a strong bias for characters from ff10. Praising characters from 10. While downplaying others. I'd like to see you have less bias and and be objective.

[@venomrulesall]

He is not that biased. He openly admitted that Squall would utterly stomp Tidus.

[@AC-03]

could sqaull be related to annue leonhardt

[@vids050]

+ragyo kyriuin Who? do you Annie from Attack on Titan? I have a theory they part of her character is some sort of homage to Squall. the name is one thing, and then her personality seems to be reminiscent of Squall.

[@AC-03]

+vids050 they don't have to have the same attitude

[@vids050]

I agree that they don't have to have the same attitude, i was just saying that they have similarities in their personality - though for obviously different reasons lol. both are loners, both have personalities that are "difficult to deal with" for their peers, both SEEM cold, both are actually carrying a burden internally that is basically the cause of their behavior and how they get along (or fail to do so) with others. all coincidence, after them have the same last name? I doubt it.

[@AC-03]

+vids050 lol they are both bastards in a way

[@vids050]

LOL!! hey, Squall is a good dude :-) he just had some growing up to do and needed a lil emotional saving ;-)

[@ironwolg]

I'll agree that Auron would win, but damn you should give Squall more credit

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+Perry D I really wanted to give him more credit because there are certainly alot of characters in his class I know he could beat. This is only match up I've done where I stand by the verdict, I just dont feel good on how I got to the outcome.

[@ironwolg]

3TopicsReviewer one thing i think you should have taken into more consideration is that when squall uses a GF, the GF literally guards him and takes the damage for him, so he wouldn't be super vulnerable. given that, i'd put the fight much closer, but Auron is a human tank and could likely handle any of it, especially if he used shell.

[@3TopicsReviewer]

+Perry D Yeah I've had other point that out to me. The issue I have with GFs is that for one we do not know officially which GF's are equipped to Squall (that is player controlled) and the other factor is that I did not allow Squall access to use them in combat for this match. He can have them equipted to add to his status. But I do not think it is fair to allow someone to use Summoning's in the middle of a fight against someone who cant. Now if I was doing FF7 Cloud against FF8 Squall I think that balances out because Cloud can use Summonings with the use of Materia and Squall has GFs

[@seandargie8175]

not attacking you or anything but you allso forgot the that gf's give abilities that increase states like strength and speed one gf in perticual is cactus squall doesn't need to summon him as long as he can use leveling up to increase is strength and speed useing gf's like ifrit isn't needed odin is a secret summon and sefier took him out in one hit seeds and solder are 2 differant things in seeds there isn't any weak they allso train hard to become seed where as soldier's are givin meko but..i understand the magic part is a downfall but like i said with cactus gf from midgame of ff8 getting cactus and useing him to increase squalls states there's no need to summon him if squall was using him in a fight with auron at mid level useing abilites to increase strength and speed squall will either be on par with auron or win a fight

[@viper_4115]

My two favorites!!! Oh god yes!

[@xxChainingHeartsxx]

Should of been Squall vs. Lightning in a clash of the gunbladers.