Vert vs Block rating: Which one weighs more?

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NBA 2K Tutes

NBA 2K Tutes

Күн бұрын

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@nba2ktutes
@nba2ktutes Ай бұрын
Please leave any recommendation for a topic!
@mrhedgefund8011
@mrhedgefund8011 Ай бұрын
Would've like to see 99 vert/99 block vs 25 vert/99 block test split. Same thing with rebounds.
@nba2ktutes
@nba2ktutes Ай бұрын
@@mrhedgefund8011 no matter what combination I do it will always lead to a conclusion that the impact of vert on blocking is not much. Rough estimation is block rating has 3x more impact than vert.
@bobbyrowber
@bobbyrowber Ай бұрын
@@nba2ktutes I guess guys wanna see the difference between like 80 and around 67 or even 75 to see if they will get more blocks off that.
@Teango
@Teango Ай бұрын
Hey Tutes can you please make a video comparing High Risk High Reward shooting vs Normal Risk shooting after the last patch.
@nba2ktutes
@nba2ktutes Ай бұрын
@@bobbyrowber as mentioned on the video the boost is too small to navigate for sweetspots. Of course there will always be a boost on every point that you add, but as mentioned on the video the boost will be small. Rough estimation is 3 point of vert is like adding 1 point of block.
@johnshack2306
@johnshack2306 Ай бұрын
Tutes we obv know block rating affects BLOCKS more than vert. It’s literally called block rating. We want to know the difference in like 70 vert and 90 vert
@bishoyibrahim331
@bishoyibrahim331 Ай бұрын
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@officialulti
@officialulti Ай бұрын
@@johnshack2306 he did say every 3 vert is 1 block.
@fortituderealtygroup9873
@fortituderealtygroup9873 Ай бұрын
@@officialulti3 vert from what tho? Lol 90 and 93 is 3. But is 91 and 94 the start?
@chillguy2089
@chillguy2089 Ай бұрын
​@@fortituderealtygroup9873Comon bruh literally for every block attribute you have it means it equals 3 vertical attributes. I don't think that was hard to understand
@sm6086
@sm6086 Ай бұрын
The guy is too stubborn to do that 😂
@bobbyrowber
@bobbyrowber Ай бұрын
we know block rating matters more but I guess guys wanna see the difference between like 80 and around 67 or even 75 to see if they will get more blocks off that
@nba2ktutes
@nba2ktutes Ай бұрын
as mentioned on the video the boost is too small to navigate for sweetspots. Even if I spend 30 hours of testing for that, and I found a super steep sweetspot, it will still be too small that it won't be significant. There will always be a boost on every point that you add, but as mentioned on the video the boost will be small. Rough estimation is 3 point of vert is like adding 1 point of block.
@bobbyrowber
@bobbyrowber Ай бұрын
@@nba2ktutes ok ok
@Dog3D
@Dog3D Ай бұрын
Not fully tested in a controlled environment but I have 10+ center builds and no-lifed about 1000 games in rec. - About 75% confidence this is true, shorter arms will result in higher jumps (especially when holding block button). My intuition is that for the block animation to make sense, it needs the vertical to cover the distance of shorter arms. In 2k24, I made identical builds but the wingspan was shorter on one. For whatever reason, the shorter arm chasedown blocks and stationary jump bocks were insane. For some reason, because you jump higher, youre usually doing better block animations. Haven't made identical builds with different wingspans this year to test this but I do feel the jumps to be better on shorter wingspan centers assuming you have some block rating. I believe to see this in jumping for rebounds too - I have a low strength (73) centers with 99 block, they are much worse at blocking than my center with strength. Im assuming more bumps and animation changes from strength helps a TON. On the low strength, I get a lot of swiping through ball/body even if it's super close to the ball, whereas a higher strength seems to actually hit the ball a lot more. I've only made 6'11 - 7'3, so take this how you want. If you want to make a build best for blocking, 7'2-7'3 is not going to be great due to speed/agility so very little chasedowns compared to shorter. I wouldnt recommend wasting 99 block for these heights since good positioning is most of your battle at these heights. 6'11-7'1 is great for chasedown blocking and stationary blocking. You can move around quickly enough to get good animations. For you super sweats, if you are able to get 80+ mid/three and 70+ speed, you can get the takeover Make It Rain which gives you a +7 speed. This will make you a crackhead on chasedowns and rebounds Edit: This doesnt mean shorter arms is always better for more blocks, just better jumps. You can also get another takeover called Slice, which boosts your agility and speed +7 if you get 85 dunk and 70 speed/agility but is limited to to 6'11 and shorter
@Luneytoon
@Luneytoon Ай бұрын
All very interesting, thank you for your service
@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ
@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ Ай бұрын
They sleeping on that Make It Rain Take since speed is so important in this game and is beneficial on both sides of the court
@plsstoptalking
@plsstoptalking Ай бұрын
I don’t think strength matters for blocking shots, I have 2 6’11s with 88 block and 80 vert, I’ve got blocks on back scratchers from centers with 99 strength while I have 75, I think timing matters the most, also which kind of block you try (holding R2 when you block makes it more aggressive)
@murdered300c
@murdered300c Ай бұрын
i have a 7ft pf i use make it rain its goated
@Asper10
@Asper10 Ай бұрын
Does your low-strength center have the same interior defense as the centers with more strength? Because interior defense matters a lot in blocks, but strength I really didn't imagine
@lukemorris4065
@lukemorris4065 Ай бұрын
I’ve got a 6’9 with 99 block 90 vert and I just go flying out the paint tryna block a layup 😂
@envoydroid4027
@envoydroid4027 Ай бұрын
Block is such a waste fr might aswell just be more offensive, anything more than 84 feels useless
@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ
@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ Ай бұрын
​@@envoydroid4027Yea just can't use block enough to justify putting it past like 85 for the eraser take
@bori1986
@bori1986 Ай бұрын
​@@envoydroid4027its useful for Paint Prodigy
@dasupremegentlelad4321
@dasupremegentlelad4321 Ай бұрын
​@envoydroid4027 I'm convinced you guys don't know how to play defense because I get blocks routinely at 6'8 with 88 block, 88 interior. Then again feel like more people try to test me since I'm a small ball center but block is not useless, anything over 93 is definitely pushing it tho
@kingduly3217
@kingduly3217 Ай бұрын
Your arm length matters also
@SOSick691
@SOSick691 Ай бұрын
what about 99 block 99 vert vs 99 block 80 vert
@HorsyFPS
@HorsyFPS Ай бұрын
I was thinking about something similar
@Dog3D
@Dog3D Ай бұрын
@@SOSick691 From my experience it won’t change much. If you hold Y/Triangle (for the entire animation), i do believe you jump slightly higher but I wouldn’t waste any vertical outside of thresholds on dunk animations or badges.
@jesuscespedes30
@jesuscespedes30 Ай бұрын
I wanted that test😢 or 99 block 99vert vs 99 block 25 vert
@chris19bozworth11
@chris19bozworth11 Ай бұрын
im confused how tutes thought we wanted to if block rating affected blocks more than vertical lmao
@Seattlle
@Seattlle Ай бұрын
Do the test with 99 block 99 vert and 60 vert cmon man Don’t short yourself of greatness
@JohnnyKing-s1z
@JohnnyKing-s1z 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for your time and helping the 2k community
@ninerz4lyfe1
@ninerz4lyfe1 Ай бұрын
So block rating weighs more towards BLOCKS who woulda thought😂
@ImBranno
@ImBranno Ай бұрын
Testing 25+25 and 99+99 would’ve yielded better results and showed a more clear picture of the relationship vertical has with block.I don’t think people wanted a this vs that type of video
@Saibakusan
@Saibakusan Ай бұрын
When are you doing releases for custom jumpshots?
@STyme003
@STyme003 Ай бұрын
Now I’m debating going down from 85 vert back to 80 vert. 85 just feels so much better than 80 for oops, blocks, rebounds etc
@tjsoko15
@tjsoko15 28 күн бұрын
I know you mentioned in the video and your replies to others that the boost is too small for sweet spots, but you only tested based on 99/25 or 25/99 block/vert thresholds. It could be possible that vert gives a greater boost depending on what your block rating is (For example 70 vert might get 20% more blocks than 60 vert with a 90 block rating, but 80 vert only gets 5% more blocks). You also are not hitting any of the block animation thresholds with that low of a vertical. If you get better block animations from having a higher vertical, I would think you at least need a certain amount of block rating to unlock those too. I think it would tell a lot more if they are tested in conjuction. Further, it could be like with rebounds where it increases the distance from where you can block in which it would provide a significant boost. You should test to see if different levels of vert paired with the same block can block the same shot from a further distance.
@Dontworryyell
@Dontworryyell 29 күн бұрын
Lock in tutes give the people what they want. 99 block 70 vert vs 99 block 99 vert. We just want to know if the difference is big enough to invest
@charlespendley6360
@charlespendley6360 Ай бұрын
That's why I say only put vert to what you need for animations or badges.
@eligreg99
@eligreg99 Ай бұрын
I’d rather have a build with 80 vert and 80 block than a build with 70 vert and 90 block. Vert helps with so much more
@jakobemoss
@jakobemoss Ай бұрын
I have a build that’s 6”10 max wingspan with 99 block and 88 vert and I barely get any blocks it’s so frustrating it feels like I got an 84 block
@kjung2526
@kjung2526 26 күн бұрын
What we really wanna know is for smaller guards who can put minimal interior d and block is it worth putting like 78 interior d and 40 block or 60 interior and 60 block. What gives you more chance to make opponents miss at the rim. I know im on a small build i rarely get blocks anyway but does having like 60 block help you get better jump animations to increase the chance to contest the shot.
@NickSwishh
@NickSwishh Ай бұрын
Test the difference in contest make percentage with an under 6’4 mini markmans PG vs. a 6’4 guard
@godfinger93
@godfinger93 Ай бұрын
Bro, i know it is a lot of work, but i think you could have tested low and high vertical with the same block rating, to see if there was any difference, animation-wise for example. Great work though, like every year!
@datbiz612
@datbiz612 28 күн бұрын
Vert definitely matters for blocks I have a 6’4 build with a 90 vert and only like 70 block and I get wayyyyyyy more chase downs then my 7 foot big with the 93 block
@tenzingnelson530
@tenzingnelson530 Ай бұрын
6’8 80 block 80 vert. I be throwing all shots from guards to centers
@jayprinceDTown214
@jayprinceDTown214 Ай бұрын
Vert is more useful for rebounds. For years I know the bigs on my team be mad when my 6'8 builds pull 20 boards a game at the rec😂.
@herbhernbb8138
@herbhernbb8138 Ай бұрын
What about vert and rebounds? Has it been covered?
@nocturnoispaytowin
@nocturnoispaytowin 28 күн бұрын
We know block is better for blocks but I have 93 block on my build and 85 vertical. But is 93 block 85 vertical the exact same if I had 93 block and 60 vert not badges included.
@StolenForgotten
@StolenForgotten Ай бұрын
Strength vs Interior Defense please ?
@Sunaqo-
@Sunaqo- Ай бұрын
can you do what fade/dribble pull up has the highest greenwindow?
@jjotta007
@jjotta007 Ай бұрын
What is the best motion style for blocking and the best takover for blocking and rebounding?
@DC6263gs
@DC6263gs Ай бұрын
did u take in factory of a players height
@starvinmarvin9983
@starvinmarvin9983 Ай бұрын
What’s the best level posterizer for a center I’m making a 7’0 not sure if I should go for silver posterizer since I have HoF rise up I like dunking but I’ve noticed 7’0 and taller have hard times getting in game dunks
@SACHMODEL
@SACHMODEL Ай бұрын
Love the work bro, but that dont make sens to do 25 block rating test .. if WE know if it make a difference u Néel to try 99 block with 25 and 50 75 et 99 vert ..
@ejdr8465
@ejdr8465 Ай бұрын
Can you test Reb vs Vert pls?
@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ
@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ Ай бұрын
I believe he's done that vid already
@FT-SurvivalGaming
@FT-SurvivalGaming Ай бұрын
I think me an the people wanna know if there’s a difference From lets say 99 block 25 vert and 99block 99 vert
@nba2ktutes
@nba2ktutes Ай бұрын
of course there is it was mentioned on the video.
@rares-ti7vb
@rares-ti7vb Ай бұрын
guys what do you think is better 82 interior and 78 block or 74 interior and 84 block ?
@brandonfeliciano4615
@brandonfeliciano4615 Ай бұрын
82 interior, because if you don’t block it then it’s a free bucket.
@halamadrid8355
@halamadrid8355 Ай бұрын
93 interior with 92 strenght
@dannykech
@dannykech Ай бұрын
Day 16 asking to show how to pull the chair
@LosYorkApollo
@LosYorkApollo Ай бұрын
Aye stop playing do real player percentage vs high risk jump shot !
@officialulti
@officialulti Ай бұрын
my 6’7 park center 84 off boards 96 d board 85 vert, +1 Legend rebound chaser, Glass gunner take, better positioning was getting out rebounded by a 6’7 80 o board 92 d board 60 vert less strength. make it make sense please i need answers.
@ekhampton6136
@ekhampton6136 Ай бұрын
Did you box out?
@officialulti
@officialulti Ай бұрын
@ always
@ericcaptainredbeardburrzy794
@ericcaptainredbeardburrzy794 Ай бұрын
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@nfdaguru9693
@nfdaguru9693 Ай бұрын
Sir you keep making videos for a game that everyone gave up on because of how bad the mechanics are of this game. Maybe try COD just for this year because 2k did such a horrible job this year
@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ
@iTROLLxTHExTROLLZ Ай бұрын
🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤣🤣😭😭
@anthonygonzalez3720
@anthonygonzalez3720 Ай бұрын
Still tons of people playing. I'm sorry you don't like it but we all still want and appreciate the help!
@nfdaguru9693
@nfdaguru9693 Ай бұрын
@ bad product we need take a stand on the game they produced a bad product stand up !
@anthonygonzalez3720
@anthonygonzalez3720 Ай бұрын
@@nfdaguru9693 sorry you feel that way, but I don't... Most realistic game to date.
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