5 Ways to Improve Your Pedalboard

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Our pedalboards require certain things to do their jobs efficiently. Today, I'm taking you through five easy ways you can get your pedalboard in tip top shape, both sonically and structurally. See all my product recommendations below: //power supplies// Truetone CS6 - amzn.to/2wWLbII Truetone CS7 - amzn.to/2x1Nf2k Truetone CS12 - amzn.to/33rfLq3 MXR ISO Brick - amzn.to/3fPBezj MXR ISO Brick Mini - amzn.to/37lFQZV //patch cables// Vertex Patch Cables - reverb.com/shop/the-rig-doctor-cable-outlet EBS Ribbon Patch Cables - amzn.to/2JyWDQU Ernie Ball Ribbon Patch Cables - amzn.to/3mppbLv MXR Patch Cables - amzn.to/3qfJ7CY //buffers// Vertex (DIY) Buffer - vertexeffects.com/diy-buffer TC Bonafide Buffer - amzn.to/39qRnKg Truetone Pure Tone Buffer - amzn.to/39tWVDN //velcro// 3M Dual Lock SJ3550 (for pedal) - amzn.to/2TP1rlu 3M Dual Lock SJ3551 (for base) - amzn.to/2I8a7SG Power Grip Mounting Tape - amzn.to/3lnGPhs //contact cleaner// Deoxit D5 Contact Cleaner - amzn.to/2GEm4gu

[@jessetoews2446]

Deox on the way, sup😹💀🍑😈🍑 seriously tho, clicked and ordered, thanks

[@jessetoews2446]

Wrong thread but im curious about best option for 'cut to length power chords' running from isolated power to all pedals Ugliest part of my board, power cables coiled and tucked

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🥰🥰🥰

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Watch our video on customizing your own DIY power cables, all the information and materials are listed there

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@jessetoews2446 it's the best!

[@nickrouse8426]

If you're using velcro, use painter's tape on the bottom of your pedal before applying a blow dryer to the velcro and then applying it to the tape and not the metal/plastic directly. Will save your pedals' value and appearance over time.

[@patrickkelly9721]

I started playing guitar at 10 years old. Played a LOT until age 27. Then lost enthusiasm when all my guitars were stolen. Occasionally strummed a bit over the years after that, Wife had a guitar but never played. I'm now 64 years old. Bought a guitar a couple of weeks ago. I still know the chords, but don't remember how to play any songs. No calluses, arthritic fingers. Picking up a few songs, I now remember a progression of chords I used as exercise. Also have built my first pedal board. These videos help.

[@antls_]

I usually don’t comment videos on YT but your channel is such a useful source of information. I’ve been upgrading my rig for almost 15 years and still learning new things so thank you very much and keep up the good work !

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Glad to help!

[@nigeldaddyo]

It blows my mind that the majority of people are still using traditional Velcro. Switched to dual lock 15 years ago and never looked back. It’s super strong so you don’t need much, just a small tab in each corner of the pedal. I can actually grab a given pedal on my board and lift the board with it. It’s that strong. Pedals can still be easily lifted off the board by sliding a small screwdriver under the pedal and prying upward.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

it's the best!

[@jordanveracruz9631]

Proved and do its job for how many decades. Using mine for almost 2 decades.

[@JosePineda-jn8jk]

I mean I still use Velcro strips and I can lift my board with my pedals 🤷🏽‍♂️ kinda a minor part to improve if you know how to actually use it imo..

[@Petanifer]

It’s overkill. Velcro looks better. Never had a problem with Velcro. If I’m building a pedalboard on my ceiling I’ll buy some otherwise it’s the most unnecessary “improvement” to a pedalboard which just makes it ugly and incompatible.

[@yomuthabyotch]

blows my mind is a bit of an overstatement. i dont gig so i dont need to worry about pedals falling off and effers stealing pedals. p-boards get dirty and velcro can be vacuumed easily (if one is smart and has taped the soft side on the board). dust and hair/fur and grime do not vacuum easily off dual lock 🤢. i agree with the CS series and EB ribbon cables though--both are excellent, affordable prods.

[@skylermann]

Truly democratizing great tone. Thanks for this Mason

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thank you so much for the support Skyler

[@joshscus]

Well it's a good feeling when you already have and use everything that's mentioned in this video!!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

The holy Trinity of tone! High-quality buffers, high-quality soldered cables, high quality isolated power supply will get you in tone heaven.

[@joshscus]

@@VertexEffectsInc check, check, and check!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@joshscus perfecto!

[@Eddyspeeder]

This is by far the BEST video on pedalboards out there. I've watched several videos before I started building my own wooden board covered in musou black, and I came back specifically to write this comment. Of all videos, the five tips of this one were golden. For each tip, I'd like to share my experiences and choices based on what is available in Europe. I am NOT advertising for any of these products. 1. After considering the selection criteria, I went for the Palmer PWT 12 Mk 2. 2. I'm a sucker for braided patch cables, so I always have been using HQ ones. But I'm grateful to have learnt of Mogami. 3. I got convinced I need a buffer and opted for a Car Martin Buff DeLuxe. 4. I got a roll of 3M Dual Lock SJ 3550 (4 m x 5 cm / 15' x 2" / 2 sq. m / 310 sq. in.). If you find the right supplier, it's only slightly more expensive than when you buy 3 rolls of Velcro to get the same surface area. 5. I bought a can of DeoxIT D5; a reseller on Amazon offers it in Europe. Additional tips for DIY: 6. If you build your own board, you'll want to use adjustable levelling feet. 7. To make sure cables don't touch the ground, affix them to the bottom of the board using cable clips or cable holders.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@CLaw-tb5gg]

Something I found using EBS vs. those pancake plug patch cables is the latter can have impractically large heads for some applications: you physically can’t plug two of them in next to each other in a lot of switchers, for instance. EBS plugs are a lot smaller and save a lot of headaches of that sort.

[@JeffKeel]

the Ford Thurston Riff. I recognized right away.. Good on ya

[@VertexEffectsInc]

He's the man!

[@DoobTube71]

Is this the Pedals Anonymous meeting? Hello, my name is El Daverino,...and I am here for Uncle Mason's steel strang ragtime band pedal board show!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Premiering at 10AM today! Stay tuned!

[@steelman774]

Hello, El Daverino… Glad you made it to the meeting!

[@colsontowingllc3309]

Is there a docta in the house!??? can't wait!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

hahahah! Thanks Colson Towing!

[@jameswilkins4motion]

This guy and channel are both excellent. Thank you for the content

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Our pleasure!

[@ekdguitar123]

Thanks for taking the time to answer so many questions. I found them very useful along with the great video.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🙏🙏🙏 my pleasure

[@MinivanMegafun100]

I recently discovered your channel and I have to say I'm really enjoying some of your videos! I love how unpretentious you are in your recommendations. Like, "here's a good option, but here's a cheaper option that's just as good." Or just straight up saying we don't need A, B, or C. Nice work!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching! I appreciate that :)

[@thirstresponder4569]

Thank you, sir. I'm building my first pedalboard for bass and this helped immensely.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Glad I could help!

[@riffnastyhubanks5714]

New subscriber. Not sure how in the hell I haven't seen this channel yet but I'm more than grateful to be here thank you for all of the useful information and be good champ

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks and welcome

[@mephisto-pheles9622]

Gonna need me some of those mogami patch cables. Glad I clicked this video!

[@dr_tomK]

Thanks for this Dr. Mason. Really useful video.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

My pleasure! thanks for watching

[@shawnmann]

I just ordered some Deoxit through your link. I’m stoked! I think this is what my bass input needs

[@VertexEffectsInc]

You'll love it!

[@richardpenhardt6100]

essential information that covers , as you say, a necessary foundation for a clean signal one can depend upon. thank you.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thank you for watching! I hope we earned your sub!

[@stanknugget]

God bless you, Rig Doctor.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching!

[@tilleyroadaffairproduction6752]

Also, I would really like to understand the purpose of having buffers in the signal chain. Would you be able to give us a really basic explanation of how to use them. Thanks again and congrats on a great channel.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I think our videos about buffers would do the best job, please look them up and get several different perspectives and how to use them best.

[@jpistolas]

That's nothing short of impressive you can cover what every pedal board user should know in 14min. What a Legend!!!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thank you so much for watching!

[@fodaseodinheiro]

Hey Manson! I learned so much from your channel. I am upgrading my pedalboard and using a lot of your recommendations... Thanks!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Great to hear!

[@marcocaracciolo834]

I'm loving everyone of your videos

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Wow! Thanks!

[@RulgertGhostalker]

i like your patch combo for the serviceability. and it just makes sense to me to be able to make custom lengths, and have left over cable i can swap in, on reusable plugs, if i have a problem.

[@standodge5536]

I think I got the last Mesa Boogie Buffer in the world. I had to order it from Japan When I tell you I scoured the Earth....I looked all the way to all the other major countries. Yes Europe, Australia, and North America are sold out. Crazy to think I had to go that far to get one. But Mason recommended it! lol Thanks man, sorry to all other guitarist looking for one. You'll have to wait til MB puts them out again.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Hope it helps! We also have our buffer as well! www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/VBuffInt--vertex-effects-pedalboard-buffer-interface

[@jegl1012]

Great video. Evidence Audio solderless cables are outstanding as well plus really good customer service. Worth to check out if soldering is not your thing.

[@garrettf1111]

Questions about the dual lock: 1) Why do you recommend different types for the board (400) and the pedals (250), versus the same for both? Is there an advantage to this mixed setup? Asking because it appears that the 250 is half the price of the 400, so 250 tape on both would be a lot cheaper. 2) Also, your amazon link for the SJ3550/250 stem is pointing to TB3550/250 stem. What’s the difference in the SJ vs. TB types? Thanks!

[@deepzepp4176]

I always use 250. 400 is ridiculously strong. 400 works well if you want to stick a power brick under your board, or something like that. But for board and pedals, 250 is more than strong enough.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

1) it's stronger if you use two different densities. If you want it easier to pull apart I'd just use 250 on both sides. 2) Not sure, they may have changed the link destination. I'll check it out.

[@TeslaChad]

To anyone debating a dual buffer...I bought the Empress Dual Buffer for about $99 and it is one of the smartest purchases ever

[@VertexEffectsInc]

There you go!

[@fellero]

Awesome tips man! Thanks for sharing!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Any time!

[@malsanders609]

Awesome tips, I always wondered what that magic spray was 😀

[@VertexEffectsInc]

👍👍👍

[@MrAlvosper]

Hey Mason..I’ve learnt so much from your KZbin channel..Regarding Velcro, which one do you put on your pedal board and which on you pedal..many thanks 👍 Al from the U.K.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Our Power Grip velcro or 3M Dual Lock.

[@MTBThrumyeyez]

Wow just stumbled on your channel and have learned so much. Great stuff.

[@Antonio-nn5ot]

I actually like the bonafide after the drive pedals when they are on, and before them when they are off... so there is some compromise needed and i have to agree that better tone overall for the pedalboard is using a buffer in the beginning of the chain

[@VertexEffectsInc]

If you actually are turning on the distortion pedal, I don’t predict there’s going to be much of a benefit for running it after it as opposed to just running one of them dead last in not having an input Buffer at all, presumably if you have any distortion pedal on that’s the low output impedance signal. For most devices over a short run a cable it’s not gonna make much of a difference whether the output impedance is 100 ohms or 1K ohms.

[@Antonio-nn5ot]

@@VertexEffectsInc agree

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@Antonio-nn5ot yes indeed!

[@Wism0r]

Hope nobody’s offended if I ask for an European contact Spray recommendation D5 is 32€ + shipping in Germany… Been a Neutrik nerd for 17 years straight, pardon the humor… Only patch cables may have Hicons. Subbed and really appreciate your content!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

The D5 is worth it and for most recreational players will last years. Neutrik is great for instrument cables but not ideal for a pedalboard. I think Hicon is made in China now so is tick stick with SquarePlugs.

[@Wism0r]

@@VertexEffectsInc ty for the quick response. I didn’t have any issues with the hicons on some Sommer cables, but once I need new patch cables, I’ll try square plugs!

[@sstorholm]

PRF sprays are just as good, 6-68 is a good dry cleaner for jacks and connectors, 7-78 is what you want for pots and faders. If you have a really dirty pot, I recommend cleaning it first with 6-68, and finishing it off with 7-78, as the lubricant can otherwise flood the pot.

[@BMitchell]

Great video. I use the tc electronic polytune 3 with the built in bonified buffer. 2 birds 1 stone.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

That’s only satisfies the input buffer, you’d still need an output buffer.

[@BMitchell]

@@VertexEffectsInc would a boss pedal work ? Thanks

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@BMitchell no, it's an awful output buffer, a poor at driving long lines and the more capacitance seen on the output the more unstable it gets. You need something that is around 100 ohms output impedance. I'd stick with my recommendations or you can build one of our DIY buffer kits.

[@BMitchell]

@@VertexEffectsInc awesome. Thank you. I'll probably pick up a bonafied buffer. Can't beat it for the money. Really enjoy your videos. Keep em coming.

[@BMitchell]

@@VertexEffectsInc I ordered another bonafide buffer. Thanks again man.

[@Surgicalshred]

Thanks a lot, Mason! Invaluable tips! \m/

[@VertexEffectsInc]

My pleasure!

[@PERRADE]

I always use the Xotic EP booster at the beginning of the chain, the first pedal. It's always worked for me since it came out.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

It’s one option, however the output impedance isn’t particularly good, I don’t recall with the input impedances, it might be OK if it’s just controlling your pick up a loading, but I wouldn’t recommend it as a line driver. The other problem is it inverts the polarity, which can be an issue in some rigs.

[@PERRADE]

@@VertexEffectsInc thanks. I’ll try to buy the materials to made the Vertex DIY.

[@scottpickett9779]

@@VertexEffectsIncHey Mason I run that pedal at the end of my board, also I have a Soul food 4 pedals in which I think is a buffer. What is your opinion?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@PERRADE let us know if we can assist.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@scottpickett9779 you need a high quality buffer on your input and output of your system as I suggest, no way around that. It needs to have a 1M input impedance and a 100 ohm output impedance if you want to quality it (generally - there are some exceptions). The Klon is a great overdrive (Soul Food), the buffer is awful - TL072 is a terrible IC for this application. Follow my suggestions, you'll get better results.

[@MrDido59]

Hi Vertex Team! Love your videos and congratulations on 100K! 🥳 About the contact cleaner: I'm not in the US so DeoxIT is hard to get and expensive. Is there any other alternative or maybe some facts I should be aware of, when buying a contact cleaner for my PB? :)

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Not that I know of. DeOxit is unique, nothing else I've found really does it for pedals and amps like this.

[@karhariasgr]

@@VertexEffectsInc yep, is quite expensive outside US, in Greece is about 40-50 euros! But I give it a try! thank you!

[@Trivette_williams]

I bought some random patch cables from GC and I was thinking I may need to buy the ones this guy is telling us about. Turns out those were the exact cables i bought😂

[@ot4kon]

Nice, I had an analog chorus who was very picky with the PS, I ended building my own linear supply, I used an unregulated 12V wallwart connected to a box near the pedal board with a LM7809 regulator inside, because it was a wallwart there was no AC near the board. no more hum.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Very nice!

[@mspring6387]

Are you aware of any simple test meter that can measure capacitance and impedance for the patch cables to verify their measurements before using on the board?

[@TotalEvo7]

You almost forgot about the Suhr Buffer, that's a great one, too. Although for guitars running a stereo rig, it only applies to the output side, and if you're a bassist like Billy Sheehan that splits the signal from the instrument, but only have one output on the bass, this buffer will be usuable to split the signal for different frequencies.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Didn't forget, it's just not the most budget friendly version, and I'm trying to recommend stuff for beginners and folks just getting their "sea legs" with this stuff. Secondly, it's not in production from what I can see.

[@tokatronika]

I got a Walrus Aetos for my pedalboard power. Do you recommend this power supply? I also would love your thoughts and maybe an episode on transparent overdrives. Thank you for the content. This video was very helpful!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

These are linear power supplies like the older Voodoo Lab versions - and also don't have any electromagnetic shielding. I suggest you look at my recommendations. Thanks for the suggestion on future video content!

[@laa0fa502]

I have a walrus phoenix and it doesn't have any of the problems he brought up except only taking 120v, I can sit all my pedals right on top of the supply and won't get any extra noise. I was really worried about it too but walrus does an awesome job at insulating

[@gunsandguitars6678]

I started using neutrik 90° replacement jacks low noise and using cable for microphone and leaving the fourth wire as an anti antenna wire to shut down surrounding noise, sounds crazy but it works? I have a couple spots where I used the mxr Close Quarters 90°, they are nice thanks for your videos you're making a difference ☆.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I'd stay away for Neutrik on a pedalboard...no reason to use these nor the mic cable. You're just adding capacitance for no reason.

[@jimiluck3684]

You're right, I use EBS patch cables and they are just very good and a good power supply is also the right thing, Cioks is a good alternative and they are not so pricy at all. I don't use buffers, maybe I must try one.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Real soldered cables are better - but these are superior to a low profile Solderless for sure. You have buffers where you know it or not - any pedal turned on - true bypass or not - is a buffer.

[@thisdyingsoul76]

FYI, TrueTone pedals (V2 and V3 series) have the Pure Tone Buffer inside them already. For the V3 series, there is also a dip switch inside to turn it off.

[@balthvs]

Great tips, getting some deoxit for the road.

[@michelecuscito5956]

Hi Mason. First of all, thank you so much for your videos. I've learned a lot about pedalboards thanks to you! I have question. Should I buy both 3m Dual locks tapes (SJ3550 AND SJ3551)? You rock, great stuff!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yes or just buy our Power Grip and you just need on: www.therigdr.com

[@michelecuscito5956]

@@VertexEffectsInc cool! Thank you so much!

[@Austinomical]

Would a polytune 3 first in chain and then Strymon flint last be good? I’ve heard these are both great buffers. Thanks!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yes, just fine.

[@johnnybluezz]

Amazing video, so useful! what about Palmer power supplies?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I don't know them.

[@MilesSchon]

Love that you play Ford tune

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Ha!

[@mitskoski]

Hello uncle Mason! I ve got some questions.. 1. I use the g lab gsc3 controller, which has a built in buffer...should I count on it? 2. I'm kinda in love with the Vertex Boost...if I buy one, will it complete the need for a buffer? I play my boost pedal in the fx loop... 3. Should I go for the truetone or the t.c. buffer, if needed, or save money for the Mesa? Thanks!!!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

1) It's okay for an input buffer, I don't think there is an output buffer 2) It is a great boost and buffer but if it's not the last thing in the chain the buffer can't be as effective as a dedicated buffer, and in the loop is not going to help with the front of the amp. 3) Depends on your effects loop, but having an input buffer, output buffer, and a buffer on the return of your FX Loop could be needed, but at least an input and output buffer. The Truetone is a good budget option. I also like the Mesa Boogie High Wire for a great dual buffer in one.

[@mitskoski]

@@VertexEffectsInc thanks a lot!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@mitskoski you bet!

[@jessegarcia4361]

Aloha from Hawaii Dr. Mason 🏝🌋 I really appreciate your videos, they are so informative , I am learning a lot and appreciation your recommendations . I would like to build the DIY Mono dual buffer with tuner out .. I realize that the order of effects pedals can vary , can you give me your opinion of my pedals placement, if they are in the correct order sequence : Guitar into a Sonic Research Turbo tuner ST 300 , Gamechanger PLUS sustainer , Wampler ego , Analog man king of tones , Boss D-S1 , Morley little alligator volume Pedal , TC Flashback , TC HOF , Into a fender pro junior . Your help & suggestions would be much appreciated … thanks in advance !

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Watch our signal paths video...I think this will help :)

[@michaelmattson3515]

Thanks for the information.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

My pleasure!

[@msromike123]

Ok, I am using an 8 outlet power strip, with surge protection, that has the rotating sockets so you can stagger wall warts. Power strip is attached with dual lock under Pedaltrain. Using individual $8 d'Addario 9V 500ma AC/DC switching supplies. I have dual USB plug in chargers for USB to 12v for midi looper, and USB to 18V for OCD. Completely isolated (not like some power supplies that only say they are.) Operates anywhere in the world. Cheap, expandable ( I could run 16 devices if I used USB to 9V adapter cables.) No single point of failure, completely configurable. Half the price, twice the capability.USB power to charge devices on the board, extra outlets to chain other boards or plug amps into. Oh, yeah, no noise. Con? None? Doesn't look cool hidden under the board. Is there a downside to this approach?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

If you're not getting noise that's the ultimate litmus test. I alway like testing a rig by putting the entire pedalboard into a true bypass looper and hearing the guitar plugged directly into the amp versus bringing in the board. This way you can ID any tone suck or noise in the system.

[@NaderHariri-w5i]

Hey Mason, I have a boss bcb60 pedalboard and it has its own power supply, would you still recommend, for example the truetone and bypass the boss power supply? Super video, thanks for your great work! Nader

[@Tomtamo1]

I know this video is almost a year old, but I've watched at least 10 other Vertex videos and I have finally decided to build soldered cables instead of the Lava cables I've been using. Can you say SquarePlugs?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Great, you can use the Lava cable too and just solder it with Squareplugs. The cable is totally fine.

[@Tomtamo1]

@@VertexEffectsInc I ordered some Mogami 2314. As you've always said, it's cheap and it's more flexible than the solid core Lava cable.

[@yohd3rd212]

Hi Mason, i saw a MXR/CAE Line Booster for a good price. Can i use it as buffer? If yes, is it before or after. Thanks. Anyways, i already have a Boss TU-3, as a buffer if not engage.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

You can, you just have to leave it "ON" for it to be a buffer. The buffer quality of the Tuner is not comparable to the MXR in terms of quality and efficiency. Remember not all buffers are created equally, just like not all overdrives are a Klon.

[@eddielamonica3153]

Hey Mason, I watch you all the time and love your videos! I have a question, can I use the mesa buffer pedal at the very beginning and the very end of my pedal board? Thanks, Eddie

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yes, or just get the high wire and it has both in one box, or if you want separate them you can get the Stowaway

[@eddielamonica3153]

@@VertexEffectsInc thank you much!

[@bigpk2003]

Great video. How would you handle buffers when you have a tone bender style circuit at the begging game? Put it after? Also...does a Strymon buffer do that trick at the end? Or would you buffer after the Strymon as well?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Put the input buffer after the Fuzz. Strymon has fairly low output impedance, around 100 ohms, which is good.

[@eldertmohr1366]

Hi Mason, I've got a CS12 but I'm running out of outputs, so I was wondering the following: Could I buy a mini Iso Brick and power it with the 18V output from my CS12? That way I'll have to plug in just one power chord for my entire pedalboard. Would that be possible?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I think there is some sort of current minimum that needs to feed it, might need to check on that. An alternative could be the Voodoo Lab x4

[@eldertmohr1366]

@@VertexEffectsInc thanks so much man! I'll look into that

[@DanielGutierrez-vq5uq]

Rig Doctor you are my hero, question: do sell buffers i mean like the ones you build? if so I'm interested in purchasing a stereo buffer? thanks!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

We will have some options for custom buffers in 2021.

[@Antonio-nn5ot]

Great content! Gold!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching Antonio!

[@anthonyjacob6252]

Hi Mason ! For the price difference, do you think that the Truetone can be as good as the High-Wire buffer ? Regardless the different features added in the Mesa Boogie. I just talk about the tone that you get. As always, great vid and great tips for us, thanks a lot !

[@VertexEffectsInc]

The only objection that I’ve had to true tone is sometimes the quality is not great, I can’t say for certain but my presumption is is that they’re made overseas, which is an always a problem necessarily, I’ve just had some here that haven’t worked out of the box where that’s really been my experience with Mesa Boogie. I presume if you buy it from a reputable place, or a place with a good return policy like Amazon, you shouldn’t have any problem and I think that sonically it will be a nominal difference if any, you’ll just need to get two of them to equal the number of buffers on the Mesa Boogie.

[@anthonyjacob6252]

@@VertexEffectsInc Ok thanks for your recommendation !

[@ReverendHellbilly]

Thanks bro. Great vid.cheers

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Any time!

[@karhariasgr]

Well, its officially, I have obsession with your videos! Let me ask something, do I need a buffer even in a small pedalboard with max 3-4 (maybe 5 pedals), or the buffer needed when we are talking, for examble, for pedalboards that have 10 pedals or above.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yes!

[@karhariasgr]

@@VertexEffectsInc I bought the Carl Martin Buff Deluxe buffer. Hope this works fine. Can I ask you something else, if the chain goes like that -> last pedal buffer -> after that a true bypass patchbay -> and then goes to amp, it will work or the buffer must be the last pedal before the amp?

[@JesseKoroteyev]

Turn all of your pedals off and strum a couple chords. Now plug the guitar directly into the amp and see if it makes any difference. If it does, you need a buffer.

[@karhariasgr]

@@JesseKoroteyev thank you for the reply. I did what you said and didn't notice any difference. But at the end I change my setup and now my setup has as the very last pedal a buffer and not a true bypass switcher. I'm very happy with my sound for the first time in my life, Dr Rig's videos are very very helpful, all you need is to understand what he really meant and what you really want. I didn't like the Carl Martin buffer, sounds like a compressor so I used a custom buffer with specs as close as possible to the specifications he suggests.

[@JesseKoroteyev]

@@karhariasgr thank you

[@YourCaliBos]

Love this channel . Cheers

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching!

[@christinepratt4656]

Hi Mason. Thanks for this helpful video. I'm building my first board - a Pedaltrain Nano+. Would you put a single strip of DualLock across the top and bottom lengths of board, or just little squares that align with the DualLock squares on each pedal? Long strips on the board would make it easier for rearranging pedals. Thoughts?

[@dekrev]

I have 2 EHX S8 power supplies - highly recommend

[@davisthelost]

Can't wait to visit uncle Mason

[@VertexEffectsInc]

See you soon!

[@yohanonshine4664]

My board is mounted on diamond plate on top of melamine board I just use crimp on connectors and supply is underneath I even have a couple blue led lighting automotive type. Clean power

[@barneybernard3363]

Thanks for the informative videos, your pedal boards look great. Is the Voodoo Labs pedal power 3 plus a reccomend power supply? Thanks Barney J Bernard

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yes it is! The Pedal Power 3, 3+, x4, and x8 are all switch mode and great!

[@jegl1012]

Very nice video!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🥰🥰🥰

[@Mike28625]

The 1spot pro12 actually does have an 18volt transformer that could make noise.

[@scottpickett9779]

Hey Mason I think I sent my question wrong so here it is again. I have an Xotic EP at the end of my 9 pedal board and a Soul Food 4 pedals in from a Vox wah , Rusty Fuzz, then a GE 7. Thoughts?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

You should have an input and output buffer as I suggest. The Holy Trinity of Good Tone = 1) high quality input and output buffers (1M input, 100 ohm output impedance), 2) isolated power supply, preferably switch mode, and 3) high quality, low capacitance soldered cables (audio and power). If you do all that, you've stacked the deck in your favor and rarely will you have pedalboard related issues or have tone suck related to your pedals or shortcomings with the rig.

[@harmonicaboy93]

Thoughts on the strymon zuma power supply?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Wonderful, just a higher price point option of a switch mode power supply, they are excellent as well

[@petrvm]

Thank you for the nice informative show! Just one question, if I have 4 pedals in the effects loop and 5 pedals in front of the amp, do I have to put 4 buffers? 2 in the effects loop and 2 in the front of the amp? Thank you for sharing!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Pedro, I would say get a dual buffer - if you have a buffered effects loop, you may not need one there - at worst you'd need one on the RETURN only going back to the FX Loop Return from the last pedal in your effects loop.

[@petrvm]

@@VertexEffectsInc Thank you a lot!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@petrvm my pleasure!

[@aaronkim2090]

Great tips! Bass player here, currently have a board with 14 pedals, in a few weeks when everything arrives Ill be setting up a new 20 pedal rig, Should i get buffers for the front and end of the signal chain? I have 3 Boss pedals aka buffered bypass roughly at the beginning, towards the end and end of the chain, would i still benefit from the extra buffers? Thanks!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

If you're going balanced out of your rig - you wont need an output buffer. Otherwise you will want an output buffer. If you use an active bass, you won't need an input buffer, but if you ever use passive, you'll want the input buffer there. The Boss pedal buffers are poor and I wouldn't rely on those to do the job well.

[@aaronkim2090]

@@VertexEffectsInc thanks for the response! I mostly use basses that switch from active to passive but I tend to run them in passive most of the time. Time to rewatch your buffer videos 😄

[@aaronkim2090]

@@VertexEffectsInc im also running a large format Cali76TX at the end of the signal chain. Apparently when powered by 18v the transformer stage acts as a buffer. Is this enough? There's no audible tone suck to my ears (through the amp), although I play in studio sessions so I'd want the best signal coming off my board.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@aaronkim2090 I think the output impedance is still quite high, around 1K ohms, you can double check that on their site I'm sure. It should be more like 100 ohms

[@Charles-Robitaille]

Good advice...as usual! 👍

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🙏🙏🙏

[@ryanmbisson]

Pedalboard upgrades I need include one new Vertex Travel Plus pedalboard.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yessir! Do it!

[@musicbinderpro8903]

Hello! Many thanks for all your videos! 👍 Question: I have a crybaby then a Ego Compressor then a Tumnus Deluxe with the buffer switch engaged. Am I ok for my begining of the line buffer? I then have some pedals... ending with Boss DC2, MXR Carbon Copy, MXR Reverb anf 12 feets of high quality cable for the amp. Do I need a buffer after my reverb (at the end)?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Input and output buffer ideally as I suggest in the video.

[@wero1088]

I have a Cioks DC 5 Link power supply, I got that one because fits under my pedaltrain nano+ what do you think about that power supply? Its good or you recommended me to get a better one?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Excellent, the only reason I didn’t talk about certain brands that are also great, Strymon, CIOKS, and the newer Voodoo Lab pedal power three is because they’re much more expensive, almost twice the price as the ones mentioned in the video

[@johnmorrison8618]

After having deoxit-ed my boss tu-2 multiple times in the last year and still having the same issue of intermittent signal loss when either of the two output cables got moved slightly; I took it apart to check out each jacks terminal and all three had black on the tip terminals where the cable tip would make contact. Some light sanding did the trick but what do you think it was and have you seen it before? Just dirt or oxidization?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

This can happen in some environments- there are also higher concentrations of DeOxit for badly deteriorated contacts

[@jasonchavez4304]

Hey Rig Doc, What are your thoughts on the newer Voodoo Labs Pedal Power 3? I'm liking the options because it's like the Truetone CS series but will it have the transformer issues you addressed?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

They’re great! No, the Truetone is also switching like I said in the video

[@Dzamora612]

Thanks a lot for the tips on this video! I was looking to upgrade my power on a board I’m working in but I have a digitech whammy XP100 that runs AC so I use 2 supplies for the rest of the pedals. Is there a way to solve this issue? Like a current inverter or do I have to modify the pedal? Thanks a lot for any answers on anyone with this type of issue

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I would check out the truetone CS 12, it has one AC output

[@Dzamora612]

Thanks a lot! I think that one would be the solution to upgrade my power

[@iwnicholson]

Will switching to a proper power supply or changing patch cables have a bigger effect on improving tone?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Each of them you do will improve the signal and lower the noise. If you do both, it'll be doubly improved.

[@fellero]

Hi Mason! Quick question regarding the dual lock strips. Which density would be appropriate (enough) for a pedal board as they may vary from 170 to 400 stems/in2? Thanks in advance!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yes, that's fine. Offsetting the two densities is the key.

[@jwstout007]

Thumbnail: (Is that a metal zone?) I’m listening... ;)

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🤣🤣🤣

[@danielhurtuk6203]

Nice! Thanks

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Our pleasure!

[@darrenfearis4220]

Harley benton iso 12 is awesome!!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Nice!!

[@alfonsopesqueiracamero875]

Hi! I have a wood pedalboard that I build myself, right now i am powering my pedals with an octopus cable and a generic transformer, do you think is necessary to upgrade to a power supply? I use it for band practice and live performance. Bye!!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I’d recommend an isolated power supply

[@stillnessinmovement]

good vid thanks. are all one spots good or just the one you suggest? im not leaving US anytime soon, dunno if I should bother to get an upgrade...thanks...

[@VertexEffectsInc]

As long as it’s the actual power supply unit and not the wall wart, you’re fine

[@stillnessinmovement]

@@VertexEffectsInc great, thanks.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@stillnessinmovement our pleasure

[@timbartlebaugh9915]

Is there a supplier of bulk flat cable for custom cables? How do you deal with really short regular round cable when two pedals are right next to each other? Round cables don’t bend in half nicely

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Not that I'm aware of - but you'd be better off using Mogami - it's easier to deal with for neat runs than the flat cable and better shielding typically as well.

[@WalmartTom]

Hi Mason. I'm building my first pedalboard but I was wondering about my fx loop order. I have a Strymon Mobius, a Seymour Duncan Andromeda Delay and a TC HOF 2. In what order should I put these 3 pedals for my fx loop?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I'd try it and see what you like. A lot of guys in the 80's liked Delay after Reverb, most guys now put it before - so you can experiment. I personally don't like modulation in the loop, I prefer it in front of the amplifier, but you can experiment with that too. I'd put it' before delay and reverb if you use it in the loop.

[@PLopGLop00]

Hi ! Considering to grab a dual buffer interface for my board : what you guys thinking about the Providence Dual Vitalizer ? Is it a good option ? What about the Empress one ? The Vitalizer seems appealing to me because of the thru input and output for fuzzes pedals.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

It is fine as well just not that easy to find

[@patrichardmvp]

If only that MXR M238 power supply had an integrated power supply and took an IEC power cable. I have nightmares of one of those wall wart units going bad.

[@nickcarroll87]

Would you recommend the voodoo labs pedal power 3 plus or the strymon zuma 9? And would you mount either of those underneath a pedal board? Did you take apart an Ernie ball ribbon cable to see if those were soldered?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Both are great. Both are fine under a board. I haven't taken apart the Ernie Ball.