Vertical Bus/Feeding System Guide - Satisfactory

[@nickjohnson9640]

Always love these videos where you can showcase both your awesome builds, and a window into the logic that drives them.

[@StinArchi]

Cheers Nick, appreciate that 👍

[@Starwind73]

I use similar system, but loop each belt level in a circle. This way you can add items to belt at any point and not only at the start of it.

[@ElonCrusty]

I was doing the same thing

[@BrianAz]

I have done this early on, it was my favorite set up. I LOVE to see all the workings of the factories. I would add catwalks with one side glassed in and the other solid. I did all this without mods, pure vanilla, and that is really time consuming. But, this game is about "time" and I do not get hung up on building as fast as possible, I enjoy the process. Thanks for showing this bus off... I thought I was the only one that liked this kind of factory! Cheers.

[@StinArchi]

Thanks Brian 👍

[@Boozsha_Bo_Bellys]

I started a main bus system this week. It helped me get so much done. However, mine is way sloppier than yours. I've learned a lot with how I don't want to do things so far. Your video has given me even more inspiration to keep working on it. I think once I get this last milestone out of the way with the space elevator, I will be ripping it out and making it better. Thanks for sharing the video. I really enjoyed seeing this style of factory. Also that tip on stacking the buildings and moving over two is going to be so helpful.

[@StinArchi]

Thanks man, glad it could help 👍

[@jyrki4167]

200 hrs into my first playthrough, I finally found your video. Let me say it's just a brilliant, brilliant consept - and so elegant! I gave it a try for producing Modular Engines and Adaptive Control Units out of the seven ingredients I already have loads of in my storage. My storage containers are in a long straight line, so I just brought the right items up to the roof with conveyor lifts, then set up a seven-high conveyor stack and set some manyfacturers to work. Boy oh boy, it's so nice and easy! The only minor drawback (and not of your design by itself) is that sometimes the splitters just won't attach to the conveyor belts properly - nothing comes out. I've noticed it before, don't know if it's a bug or just me though. So a BIG thanks to you. I've now watched also your other videos. You do so beautiful builds and give me inspiration!

[@StinArchi]

Thanks Jyrki, much appreciated mate

[@hew34]

Have been a believer and user of buses for years! I tend to loop mine, so they're circular with an overflow on one of the corners.

[@StinArchi]

Nice, yea am a fan of them also, in certain situations. Cheers mate 👍

[@bigbaldandbeardy301]

Holy cow! Thank you so much. I've been really struggling with keeping things organized. I knew there had to be a way, but I just didn't see it. This video is absolutely changing my Satisfactory experience for the better. I play on a private server with some friends and I can't wait to show them this technique of yours.

[@StinArchi]

Thanks man, much appreciated, glad it helped 👍

[@evolrider8996]

I have only been playing a couple weeks now and was getting a basic understanding on your setup until I saw your mega factory! My mind instantly exploded.

[@StinArchi]

Yea that mega factory was a complicated and time consuming setup, and unneccessary, but a fun experiment. Cheers man appreciate it

[@pneu79]

wow, both the time commitment and logic process here are super impressive

[@pauljacobi340]

Your design choices never cease to amaze! Keep up the great work/fun and please keep sharing :)

[@StinArchi]

Cheers Paul 👍

[@mrxgame386]

Love this idea, alot of my builds have limited space and this idea would be very handy. Your a legend bro. Thanks for the tutorial.

[@StinArchi]

Cheers xero mate 👍

[@JasonEllingsworth]

You should build different if you always feel your space is limited. You wall around a finished factory. You don't try to build a factory within finished walls.

[@parallelgeek]

I spent some 14 hours yesterday redesigning my steel factory due to this video. Not anywhere as organized as yours, but much more than I usually manage. I like this system a lot. Thanks for the video.

[@StinArchi]

Nice, glad to hear it helped mate, appreciate the comment 👍

[@12Jerbs]

This example is exactly what I was looking for. I had been toying with the idea of having belt loops that are constantly moving materials around, and programmable splitters determining what is sent off to a constructor/assembler/etc...Big thanks for demonstrating how it can be done in a compact way.

[@StinArchi]

Cheers Alex, glad it helped 👍

[@oldandtight]

I'm on my first playthrough and just implemented my third attempt at a bus system. Initially it looked great but rapidly turned to spaghetti as I added more things i didn't know i needed. The same for bussing out of my storage area. This video has introduced so many new ideas so thanks for that. Great presentation and clear understandable commentary. Nice one. Please keep it up

[@vladleahu8657]

This setup definitely helps organize better and saves time

[@Sevetamryn]

I'm just in my 1st game, thanks. This video shows (what i was not sure about), that my concept for factories, i have mind / being in the process to implemen, , will scale well. And also, some nice advise her to do it the right way. Oh, and like visible logistics!

[@varidian694]

I actually do find this really clean and crisp looking

[@bad-dogz]

A simple way to get perfect space between machine and splitter, is to put a splitter down in front of belt splitter, then place first machine against that splitter. Then remove that splitter. Now you have perfect connection for all lifts.

[@ArbiterSCX]

Great build. I hope Coffee Stain makes the attachment of splitters/mergers to the belt a little more snappy for better alignment. I've always struggled putting them on belts and on elevated belts.

[@StinArchi]

Cheers ArbiterX 👍

[@vladleahu8657]

Wow man this is amazing!!!! I can suggest guys to put the lift first so you then align and put the machines easily without guessing and deleting , I use this technique every time in any setup

[@marcus_w0]

This is a quite clever testfabrication setup. I'll steal this idea and add an output grid in it.

[@timainwhitewolf]

This is a brilliant design! I actually tried to do something like this in my very first base, where i stacked the belts 10 high, but I couldn't get machines to hook up properly and in the end everything felt so unorganized and cluttered that i gave up. But now with these tips, I feel like I should revisit this idea! So thank you!!

[@StinArchi]

Cheers Timain - yes I know what you mean - I did a similar thing on my first factory also, very small only a few belts, but was so messy. But with a bit of experimenting - you can get it to look somewhat organised/clean. Cheers mate 👍

[@tanakakun6093]

Tbh, I thought this was an actual factory just from the thumbnail

[@StinArchi]

👍

[@liammarsland268]

This is a great video to showcase what you have done and explain how to begin feeding machines from it, however some clarification as to how you managed the chaos of inputting all the resources onto the bus to begin with would be appreciated.

[@vanivari359]

Im using a giant "U" shaped vertical bus - one side inserts the items to the bus (at the beginning), then they are smart-splitted into my warehouse/sink and the final side is used to get items from the bus to the machines for production. The machines are in the middle of the U and the produced items are added back to the bus on the insert-side. The beginning of the U is connected to my train stations and drone ports for input, the end to output. This system is super modular and extensible - if i need more throughput, i add a second third lane to the bus, if i need more machines, i add a floor. And sometimes i change the purpose of a floor by just switching the connection to the bus. The disadvantage is the size and the time to build it because you move a lot of items very far. And it's not great for hight throughput items (e.g. quickwire) and it's hard to track, how much items you extract along the bus to the different floors. And i have now a 40 belts high bus - it gets high.

[@StinArchi]

Yes they can get a bit harder to manage if you have really large buses. Every system has its pros and cons - But your setup sounds good mate 👍

[@mhx47]

Signs, use them to keep track how much you insert and extract for each belt. This way when you need to change something, you do not have to fly all over to find oit, how many items you move around.

[@Mgsgenesis]

Some great advice mate, some useful stuff. Keep it up :)

[@StinArchi]

Thanks my man 👍

[@xDeadlyfuryG3x]

This system is crazy cool. I do prefer a clean build style, but I do not mind the look of this vertical stack.

[@StinArchi]

Cheers Deadly 👍

[@lowenkopf183]

I will definitly try this for my factory, thanks for this nice idea of a distribution system ツ!

[@StinArchi]

Thanks man

[@a.k.7840]

The belts can be made more compact vertically, but it would take more care setting up, be a TON of clipping and you wouldn't be able to see very well all the parts whizzing by. It's possible to stack 9 belts to a height of 4 meters so long as you don't mind extreme clipping.

[@M4nichean]

Look i'll pride myself on being pretty good at satisfactory, but you are on a whole other level, instant subscribe! Nice vid man appreciate you sharing!

[@StinArchi]

Cheers Matthew, appreciate the comment 👍

[@MichaelGreen831]

uneffing-believable. Your brain is amazing.

[@StinArchi]

Cheers Michael 👍

[@CrazyAssDrumma]

This is an amazing guide, thank you!!!

[@StinArchi]

Thanks man, appreciate it 👍

[@xCriticalStrikex]

Much more compact than anything I've done, and I tend to work vertically. Will have to give this a try :)

[@StinArchi]

Cheers mate, hope it works out 👍

[@halbouma6720]

Awesome job! Thanks for showing us your bus design!

[@StinArchi]

Cheers Hal, appreciatte it 👍

[@mhx47]

Looked great in videos but now to see full explanation and haw much it can scale up is crazy. That megafactory with two stacked busses on sides neatly grouped by machine output is great and looks awesome(only problem building it is all math to decide how much of what to build for how many belts, for me anyway, to have similar item belts nearby). I got stacked bus in a full circle around my 'small' megabase with each item overflowing into box and then sink as I found that neat and compact, but what you showed is even better! I just got idea to use this for nuclear fuel production(might be deadly), but I did not see you use pipes so who knows how feaseable it will be once implemented. You might make similar video explaining your mixed(pipes+belts) logistics, if you use one efficient system as well. Thanks for a great work!

[@StinArchi]

Thanks man, much appreciated 👍

[@catcraft06]

The almighty Factory-God shares his powers with us normal peasants! 🥳😂 No, seriously thanks for the amazing tutorial! ❤

[@StinArchi]

Thanks my man :)

[@Crownek668]

Fantastic!

[@CSGdesign01]

Thanks for a great simple explanation

[@Salmacream]

This is art

[@JulianSloman]

Amazing builds! You deserve much more subs - just discovered you and love both your aesthetically pleasing designs and the efficiency!

[@StinArchi]

Thanks Julian, much appreciated mate 👍

[@JulianSloman]

@@StinArchi Okay played with this build style for completing Phase 3 - having a hover pack rather than jet pack would have been nice :D - probably going to go get Alu before continuing.

[@TootyLootyFruity]

This guy needs more Subscribers

[@StinArchi]

👍👍

[@nphdrums6887]

This is a amazing! Massive help!

[@dvanderplas78]

Just awesome , absolute animal 👌

[@StinArchi]

Cheers Dirk 👍

[@EonwulfGames]

I did exactly this in my first megafactory. It was before I got jetpacks or anything so I was manually climbing up a 30 belt high bus to add more belts as new resources entered the belt, and to bring resources down for my machines. It was nightmarish so I decided not to do it anymore.

[@StinArchi]

Yea can imagine without at least a jetpack, preferably a hover pack - that would be a bit of a pain to setup and make changes to.

[@abbefromru]

It is hard to control the specific amount of resources you get from this sort of bus. The line is quickly goes to nothing. And if you add more you never know how much exactly to put into the line. It must be overloaded by the resource you need and yet the last unit in line could not get enough. Well, you can calculate it but it's much harder than direct connection.

[@pinball2k6]

Your stuff just makes me want to play, while reminding me that my massive epic factories are actually trash compared to yours lol

[@StinArchi]

Cheers Gruff - I've just been playing a long time, sure you would build the same if you had played as much as me

[@pinball2k6]

@@StinArchi Just restarted on U8 and this is how I feed my assemblers/manufacturers. 15 or so line high belt. Only on T7 currently though

[@bobbygasser2681]

Nice bro. Wish I had a desktop so i could try things this size. My gaming laptop starts studdering and crashing about the time I unlock tier 8.

[@StinArchi]

Cheers mate - yea even on a decent PC I stuggle, can imagine on a laptop.

[@MarcWautelet]

👍👍👍 Good to see a detailed explanation of your bus system, including all of the nitty-gritty details. Maybe I will also do a configurable factory at some point. But I want to optimize ressources utilization, which means no sinking. Any thoughts on this?

[@StinArchi]

Well I guess the obvious would be to only produce the exact items you need per min - but I know your an excellent builder and know that already :) I guess another option would be to have on-demand production, for example, where I showed the large bus system on the megafactory - all the machines directly feed onto the bus, with no overflow possible - and only when the items are called off from the bus, will the constructors and assemblers start producing. So no waste, no sink needed. Some kind of variation like that may be the most practical on a large scale, but probably easier ways on smaller scales. Also that setup will be a bit trickier if you're transporting items around by train/drone/truck, but still possible. Thanks my man 👍

[@jcs7757]

bro, youre insane, congrats from br

[@rickmidkiff9990]

iNCREDIBLE

[@j.custer8324]

Question. Is it possible to do this on a double-sided setup or have I wasted the last 6 hours trying to make that happen? Seems my setup is a bit too tight to get enough splitter for my constructors. I heard at the start of the video that you wouldn't do this for constructors can you point me to a video where you go over building the basic stuff you need to make this project work, please.

[@VTrucker777]

Will storages on every end of production line Splitter then merge all the production line storages to send them to storage room Will this counter traffic tight knot on single line sushi output ?

[@alexlight4413]

You are actually a genius, how do you come up with this stuff?! I am totally stealing this system for a build thank you ;)

[@StinArchi]

Steal away mate, cheers Alex 👍

[@AlkaloidMushrooms]

wow my mind is different xD i was like start of video..ok ok i can handle it....i see the end... and ok im not ready xD

[@h.m.sanchez4934]

Inspiring.

[@programorprogrammed]

This is great

[@StinArchi]

Cheers man 👍

[@nostrum6410]

i use something similar early game alot when im stuck with slow belts

[@Simplechioces]

This is really cool! And I have never thought about something this useful with bus lines. However, there is no load balancing? Everything you make is through manifolds?

[@StinArchi]

I did cover on a vid on some load balancing ideas, and ratio balancing...or maybe you are referring to the standard splitter/mergers to load balance? Anyway in either case - I personally think its not worth the hassle/extra time and space. Adding loads more splitters/mergers to this vertical bus system would take away from the point of it being compact and relatively simple, and to be honest, has very little benefit - in my opinion. The end result is exactly the same, with much less hassle. I understand some like it, and why not, each has different styles. I just dont really see a need for load balancing in this particular vertical bus setup. There are other scenarios where it could certainly be useful, and I've used balancing (my particular version, bit different than the standard load balancing ) a few times, and you can check out the vids on it. Cheers mate, appreciate it 👍

[@Lynch30]

Yo this looks nice

[@daddykable13]

bruh.... you saved my butt from the spagetti town ._. lol i tried my own bus and it was CRAP lol

[@pinkdiamonds77]

Wow❤ I love tedious to play this game it’s required

[@StinArchi]

I am not sure if you mean that with a touch of sarcasm/irony, or you have some kind of love/hate relationship with Satisfactory....either way, I get it and appreciate the comment :) 👍

[@demris15]

You can’t scale vertically that easily though, max height would be the max height of a vertical conveyor correct?

[@venanreviews]

I would love to see how you setup your miner's. I want to make this design but figuring out how to get every resource together to it has been challenging.

[@StinArchi]

If you want to see how i've set up some of those, you could download my save on this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6K4g596qcaZj6c. Link is in the description.

[@venanreviews]

@@StinArchi I appreciate it! I've watched this video 10 times over and I'm still rewatching it, can't wait to build a vertical factory :D

[@venanreviews]

@@StinArchi After looking at it, I guess I'm confused on why you have belts going from Mrk 3 > 4 > 5 when there's nothing merging together. I also see a few mergers without anything but one path into them. I can understand future-proofing it but I don't get the gain from changing from a slower speed to a faster speed. Why not just keep the whole line one belt if it's just one? Maybe I just don't get conveyor belts lol.

[@StinArchi]

Which build were you looking at?/what area in the build? I've built so many I cant remember specifics of each heh.

[@venanreviews]

@@StinArchi It was closest to Eden, I'll have to double check but I want to say it was a copper node it was connected to. Also, do you think it'd be viable to do a mixed belt of the pure materials and vertically stack with smelters/constructors? I'm starting to see why you said constructors aren't really worth it after I've setup mine XD.

[@kurokaaunoire8522]

I was thinking about the same, but not arraning all machines the same way drives me crazy lol And idk if i wanna go that lengh hmm... but it does look nice.

[@StinArchi]

Cheers Kuroka 👍

[@johnengels8017]

Its a very good and simple system i like it. I have a couple question is there a reason to need that many items being made at one time? Once you unlock all the tiers why do you need the items for? Or are you just doing it to keep building for fun once you beat the game?

[@StinArchi]

Thanks John. Yes pretty much as you mentioned - I unlocked everything long time ago and am just building for fun

[@Hippida]

You know, when belt work is of this quality, I don't mind it showing

[@StinArchi]

👍

[@jarno8608]

Iv used these before, an other conn to be aware of, you have a massive wall in your factory standing in your way

[@StinArchi]

Yes true :) You can leave a gap at the bottom 1 or 2 belts - which I did on one of those examples - so you can walk under it. You dont need to start from ground level. Or you can do the side wall version, which I briefly showed on the megafactory. But yea, it can be bit of an unsightly obstruction :)

[@OlivierRovelli]

Hi, thank you for this video. I do have a question : how do you choose which item is supposed to be on the top conveyors ? I understood the bottom one is the sushi conveyor which provides all the items, but where do you manage the machines' outputs in the other conveyors ? Thanks !

[@StinArchi]

It's up to you which belts you want to use for which items, it doesn't matter to be honest. You feed the conveyor bus system (any belt, doesnt matter) with the resources requried by the machines, and those resources will depend on what recipes/production you're doing. This is more suited to larger/multiple production chains in one compact area. Not really necessary/overkill for small/simple production. I suggested using the bottom belt for the merged output of all the machines connected to the bus, to share back to all the other machines that may need those items - and all the other belts you can just feed a single resource, to keep it simple (unless you're confident to use mixed betls). But how you configure it really is up to you, and depends on what you're producing of course. If it helps, try starting with the most used/fastest moving items on the bottom, and work up to the top with the least used/slower moving items. Cheers Olivier

[@OlivierRovelli]

@@StinArchi Thanks for taking the time to answer me ! I fully understand now the concept, and It's so simple It's genius. Have a good day :)

[@VTrucker777]

Never mind Will never use sushi belt again Except for bigger constructor If everything sushi Will be stuck in the middle at some point

[@jacovanderschaaf3044]

btw what about fluiwed transport lines? atm im experementing with water towers, so that you only require 1 water tower to feed all the water extractors that lift up the water that below the water tower. are there any ideas about the bussline for fluiweds machines bussline?

[@jacovanderschaaf3044]

i do have few questions. as that you need to keep in mind that the max belt 780, so never go above the output that required to feed the machines? you said you can go endles with but i gues endles has a end if you go above the 780, were for you have add a new belt? also what about on the end of the line, to have loop back to the start? so that if the transport is'nt on time it just does 1 more loop befor sink it? and i see you using tier 5 belts on main middle line, do the belts or transportlift have to be tier 5? or can it be done be tier 1? if you know that the machine ask for resources below the 60 per min? i always place tier 1 belt if i know that machine as belor the required intake of goods, then just fill it as fast as needed?

[@StinArchi]

You can use any belt speed for the bus system - but I'd recommended to use the fastest belt you have unlocked. If you need more than 780, you can just add another belt as I mentioned in video. For example, I had 2 mk5 780 belts for silica. And I could add a 3rd belt if necessary. On the large megafactory for some items I had 4/5 mk5 belts for some items. The loop wouldn't work as it will keep looping and build up and eventually clog/stop the belt, even if there is only a tiny excess. As there is no way to indicate to an item to only overflow/loop back just once. Unless you're talking about looping it back to another different belt on the vertical bus, which then overflows to a sink/somewhere else (and the first one didn't) - you could do that, but its not necessary. If, for example, some of your machines attached to the bus need 100 screws per min, if you feed that bus with at least 100 screws per min, it will be ok and no reason to loop back - unless you are having those screws brought in by transport with a long journey/delay between each delivery. In which case you can use 1 belt on the bus for screws with no overflow, which would fix problem. As screws have nowhere to go when on the bus, and will wait on bus til called off. But you may need to play around with buffer containers at start of bus/after train station etc. For the same screw scenario - If you want an overflow, use a buffer container after train/before bus with a mk2 (120) items per min coming off, to slow down the flow so that it would hopefully last until transport arrives again. There are other many ways to work around it, but it really depends on your requirements and this is getting too long :) Bascially i'd suggest to just use 1 item per belt. No mixed belts/no overflow at end of bus - so you don't need to worry about transport not on time/too long etc. And if you need, add buffer containers at start to unload from train/truck and feed bus. The conveyor belt/lifts that are coming off the main bus should be the same speed as the bus - otherwise sometimes it won't catch the items if the items are in quick succession after eachother - again this is mainly an issue when using mixed belts, or an overflow at the end. Otherwise if no overflow at end and no mixed belts - doesnt matter what speed lifts you use. because the items have nowhere else to go and will just sit there on bus and wait til called off, so even mk1 lifts would be fine. But if you're using an overflow at end, or mixed belts - If you use mk5 belts on bus, but mk1 lifts coming off to feed machines - if the items being called off are in quick sucession, because the mk5 is moving so much faster than mk1 - sometimes it can't pick off the items it needs quick enough, if the items it wants are in quick succession after eachother. So in that scenario use same speed belts/lifts. I haven't done any kind of bus system for fluids yet Cheers Jaco 👍

[@jacovanderschaaf3044]

@@StinArchi THX FOR TIP

[@nocontent4487]

@@StinArchi How do you handle things that require blenders? Make them here and send them off to the blender? Create them on-site at the blender? Asking because I adore this setup but can't figure out the best way to proceed to Fused Frames, Batteries, etc.

[@StinArchi]

@@nocontent4487 You can use blenders with this, if you put a bit more space inbetween the machines and the vertical bus, you can add pipes to the bus with the pipe support things. And with the 'horizontal to vertical' pipe setting, they can connect quite nicely. But adding pipes to it will def make things tricker, especially if its a significant sized production you got going on, and there is by-product liquids to bring back round to share again. End of the day there is no right or wrong way... definitely possible to add pipes to this kind of bus system, but sometimes it is just easier/simpler to keep blenders/refineries separate. Good luck with it mate

[@Chromaz]

For me its the fact you have multiple resources mixed together on a single belt. Im sure if i tried that the whole system would get clogged up in no time

[@StinArchi]

Yea I still get things wrong with mixed belts occasionally, but keep playing around until I get it right - part of the enjoyment, for me anyway. But I hear you mate, mixed belts can be tricky. Thanks for comment mate 👍

[@RodolfoClash]

do you share your save for study? I'm from Brazil and if you want I can also share mine that can be checked on the channel

[@StinArchi]

If you are running Update 5 you can download my save from this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6WroHd9nsSMeJI - link is in the description. You can load it in Update 6, but quite a few things won't look right, so I recommend only loading that save in Update 5...but its up to you. I will upload my Update 6 save once it leave expertimental and goes onto Early Access. Thanks Rodolfo

[@sentientCoding]

it's probably faster since you don't have to move around as much

[@coreyparchem3470]

Imagine trying to change things without flying

[@StinArchi]

Yea I wouldn't suggest doing a large version of this until you have hoverpack (or flying ofc). I did a video on my first ever factory where i had a tiny version of this, 3,4 5 belts max high. Not even jetpack. Its ok for small versions, but yea definitely not for larger setups without a hoverpack. Unless your really patient, unlike me.

[@silence.coffin4745]

how do the materials go up and down?

[@StinArchi]

Not sure what you mean exactly - do you mean up and down off from the vertical conveyor bus onto the machines? if yes - conveyor lifts. This takes the goods up and down. Which you should see various examples in the video.

[@TheRealSlobo]

I GOT A HEADACHE

[@limpanskok]

110% 👍👊🍺

[@faikerdogan2802]

Jesus Christ 🤩

[@gabehenry9404]

World download?

[@blufalcon9957]

Good video but the first four minutes was saying that it was small, compact, scalable, and that you were going to show us how to make it 50 times over. Short intro, get to the point.

[@VTrucker777]

Hate bus in factory so i just make everything one line sushi

[@VTrucker777]

Except ore input

[@tyler558806]

You did not do a great job explaining what you're doing at 8:05. A long video with little actual substance or explanation.

[@BobBob-it7tp]

Still awesome