Vertical Smoker vs Horizontal Pellet Smoker Grill - Which To Buy

[@user-nu2zc6xd2t]

See guys, no need for 60 minutes video here. Straight to the point with answers to all of my questions. Thx 🙏

[@PatrickSipperly]

Thank you and you're welcome.

[@speaktruth247]

Simple and informative comparison in less than 5 minutes. Love it.

[@PatrickSipperly]

Glad you liked it!

[@eaopanama]

I own a Blackstone griddle which i can cook anything on and love. I need a smoker now, and from your video it helped me decide and makes sense to get me the vertical Pit Boss. Makes total sense, thank you!!

[@PatrickSipperly]

You're welcome! Glad to help. Enjoy your smoker.

[@zgriffin3546]

how did it turn out?

[@aldoortega9784]

Same here

[@jeffreygodzisz5192]

Thank you, I have a electric smoker that is a little too small for what we want. Was looking into a horizontal for the ability to drop a whole rack of ribs or brisket on it. However hearing these don't smoke as well as a vertical I will find a vertical that I can hang my ribs and brisket from.

[@OuroMorpheus]

Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for, and it was directly to the point, which basically never happens

[@webbsteroni]

Agreed!

[@deeblack9393]

For me it is a no brainer, Pellet smoker grill wins because you can do more with it. I recently got the Z-Grills 450a 2020 revised version and while I haven't even opened the box yet I know I made the right choice for me.

[@jimminrod1567]

very well done. Is the verticle better for smoking because the temps do not go as high?

[@PatrickSipperly]

Vertical temps can go up to 450 or so. I personally think it's better because of the design that I mention in the video.

[@DarrellWefel-ts2kr]

What I don't like about the Pit Boss digital smoker ? Is the digital controls are at the bottom of the smoker ! I bought an East Oak smoker digital with probe and remote . And the digital controls are at the top of the smoker . With cover and rolling stand $300.00 ! AMAZON 😋

[@Suds15]

I have had both. No comparison between quantity and quality. The Camp Chef Pro 36 is best of both worlds. Smoker and grill attachment. I gave my vertical away. Do another comparison?

[@crgunslinger]

smoker/grill is fine, but where did you get those rad shorts?

[@PatrickSipperly]

Walmart specials, Craig! Very trendy, right?

[@trademark23]

Great video, I'm looking at going with a vertical smoker but just want to be sure that it will do a great job cooking larger portions of meat slowly such as brisket?

[@PatrickSipperly]

Absolutely!

[@hkvanx]

is the temp different at each rack level for vertical smoker...like hotter on bottom and cooler at top? or holds same temp in entire chamber?

[@PatrickSipperly]

Excellent question and I don't have an answer for you. I tend to put meat in the upper part. I haven't done multi-layer enough to give you an answer.

[@meals24u]

My experience has been the opposite. Lower racks aren’t as hot as top ones. But the difference isn’t that big. It’s only hotter on the bottom when a new batch of pellets ignites and you briefly have a very hot fire at the bottom. But with the heat shield over it, and the water pan, the heat/smoke seems to rush past the bottom racks and then whirl around the top multiple times before exiting the chimney. This really getting around that top rack more.. That’s my theory because I have 3-4 meat probes going all at once at any given time and that’s been my experience monitoring them.. So I personally like to put the thinner pieces at the bottom with more space between them and the thickest pieces on top, and my longer cooks come out very evenly when chimney is more restricted.. Chimney wide open a grilling hotter, not as much of a difference.. 👍👍

[@dahghreyt96]

Concise and straight to the point. Thank you. Gonna get a vertical smoker :)

[@PatrickSipperly]

Thank you and you're welcome. May you enjoy your vertical as much as we have!

[@donutman3089]

So here's a question for the reason I am even looking at these smokers. How much heat loss do you get when opening the vert vs the horizontal? Do you lose all your cooking momentum when you open the vertical vs. retaining the heat with a vertical?

[@PatrickSipperly]

I have no "MythBusters" scientific data for you. But from my experience and best guess, I would say the heat loss will be about the same. In either option, you're opening an entire side of the unit (top or front). You'll see the temperature go down a bit on the panel. It's best to keep in shut as much as possible. However, I wouldn't say you'll lose all cooking momentum as it returns to temperature in just a few minutes. Hope that helps!

[@guins99]

Good review, I appreciate the insight. I already have a 4 burner Blackstone griddle so I’m gonna get a vertical smoker

[@patrickmacleod2415]

Perfect. Just what I needed. I use an old school offset smoker and looking for an easier electric alternative to go with it. I was thinking the vertical to save space, and it looks like that is what I’ll get. I only want it for smoking. Thanks for this.

[@PatrickSipperly]

Glad to help!

[@deminybs]

same, I just need to make sure I get a vertical one wide enough for a large brisket, got a 16.5 wagyu one dry aging currently

[@droach5241]

I just got a Z Grills Pellet Smoker. It maintains temperature like a champ and is perfect for long smoking sessions like Briskets and Pulled Pork. I love it for that but my Fiancé and I aren’t completely satisfied with the smoke flavor since we are use to our old roommate smoker. Now I want a Vertical Smoker

[@deebrooks3810]

Great video. I've been a weber kettle/wsm guy for years. I'm convinced that I want a pit boss vertical smoker now. Thanks!

[@PatrickSipperly]

Any time!

[@earlfox6030]

I have a pitboss series 4 for smoking and charcoal for grilling

[@dougrussell1926]

I have a vertical smoker, and weber kettle. Pretty much covers everything.

[@Rick-5728]

Can you fit a full rack of ribs on one of those racks in the vertical one, or do you have to cut them?

[@PatrickSipperly]

A big full rack, probably not. And if not, I just cut to fit. Most of the time I finish meat off in a slow cooker to retain the juices after several hours of smoking. I cut the meat to fit the slow cooker.

[@TonyVargas]

I have the vertical 5 series and I agree with everything in the video. My biggest frustration is the location of the control panel directly underneath the food chamber. It is so easy for grease to get on it even when just spraying down a brisket, and ash accumulates as it has to be brushed forward to be cleaned out. I like to slide out the tray to check my meat and all those drippings have messed up my LCD panel. The glass door looks nice, but after 5 hours of cooking, the glass is worthless and too hard to clean. Just a few things to consider....

[@PatrickSipperly]

Great points, Mr. V. I wonder if future verticals will have control panels higher up, maybe on the side. Thanks for commenting!

[@doncapo732]

Was looking to buy one of these for my dad. Thank you for such an informative video!

[@ckellyarnold845]

Great presentation Can you get a Turkey in the vertical 3 Is the grease trap and clean up easy Just clicked follow

[@PatrickSipperly]

Thank you, @ckellyarnold845! As far as smoking a turkey in a series 3, you can do a smaller one up to about 13lbs. Anything bigger and you might have to measure it first. The drip pan catches nearly everything and slides out for easy cleaning.

[@Mccaid]

ive had a vertical for a couple years, i just bought a traeger yesterday. probably keep using my vertical for long smokes and my traeger for 8 hours or less

[@garrettabcdefg4602]

My masterbuilt vertical smoker hits 700 F and can cook burgers and steaks easy. Verticals the way to go

[@PatrickSipperly]

Awesome!

[@briannamariee3212]

I love to smoke and I love to grill ... looks like I'm just going to end up getting both of them... Perfection is important

[@PatrickSipperly]

I understand. I like and use my smoker and grill in different ways and for different reasons. Go for it, Brianna!

[@kelvinlowe7316]

Pat, I couldn't deciede, so like you i bought both models Austin XL and CH 3. Great Video!

[@PatrickSipperly]

Great choices, Kelvin. They are different units with different strengths for sure. Thanks for commenting!

[@DrLove911]

Expensive decision. Lol

[@HumbleAstronaut]

@@DrLove911 depends on your bank account

[@TedGulyas]

Patrick, this was just the video I was looking for! I've used green eggs and other offsets for a while...but finally want to invest in a pellet smoker! ....But had THE hardest time figuring out weather to go horizontal or vertical....I was extremely close to getting one of the horizontal smokers...but thanks to you and this video, I'm going vertical! I've already got a decent grill, but yes...THANK YOU for your descriptions of the "good smoker" and "GREAT smoker" ....keep it up! Keep the BBQ videos coming.

[@PatrickSipperly]

Awesome, Ted. Glad it was helpful!

[@billdungan3709]

Any issues with the pellet grill over heating and how high temp will the vertical smoker go? Thanks very informative. I’m still trying to decide. I have a grill so maybe all I need is the smoker unit. I cook for just a small family. I read so many negative reviews on every grill I’m gun shy. Thanks for taking the time to do this video.

[@PatrickSipperly]

You're welcome, Bill. Thanks for watching and commenting. To your questions: 1) There are going to be temperature fluctuations with any wood pellet grill. Period. The way the pellets feed into the firebox doesn't always flow evenly. There's bound to be a little overflow. Not much, but enough to send temps from 225 to 300 for a few minutes. It's just like a small campfire. So, yes, I've had overheating now and then. Not fatal. 2) How high depends on your smoker. I think my Copperhead goes to 400.

[@peterratcliffe5115]

Very helpful. Thinking of making my own smoker but wasn't sure which type to do.

[@PatrickSipperly]

Excellent, Peter. I saw a guy offering his plans for making your own smoker in a weekend: www.pelletsmokergrill.com/bbq-grilling-cookbook/ Let us know how your smoker turns out!

[@peterratcliffe5115]

@@PatrickSipperly Having watched yours and other videos I'm going to build an offset smoker and grill combo. The offset fire pit can provide hot or cold smoke and grill if needed but not at the same time. The smoker chamber will be vertical and joined to the fire pit via a pipe with adjustable baffle and a chimney with another adjustable baffle. The whole thing will be all welded together with wheels one end and handles the other. I'm going for multi purpose.

[@PatrickSipperly]

@@peterratcliffe5115 Sounds great! I hope you'll make a video of the process and the end product! I'll bet a lot of guys will be interested in how you made it and how it works.

[@cliff111898]

great video I think im leading toward vertical smoker BUT what your thoughts on pellet feeder or wood smokers which is easier to maintain and or better and of course thoughts on gadgets bluetooth/ wifi been looking at the Pit Boss Grills PBV3A1 Electric Smoker but loke the idea on high tech

[@PatrickSipperly]

I love my vertical smoker for it's easy of use. I upgraded to the Sportsman 7: pitbossgrills.77jaha.net/OR5jdP I don't have any experience with a pellet feeder.

[@thejonathanwarner7653]

you helped so much without the fluff . thank you

[@PatrickSipperly]

You're welcome, glad to help!

[@Sky1]

i have a vertical smoker and a charcoal grill. Both combined less than the Pellet Grill and I think I get competition results

[@lolahunter8851]

The basics answered concisely, thanks great videa!

[@docohm50]

Thanks for making your video. I was on the cusp of purchasing a series 5 Pit Boss smoker, then you made me stop and think. The Austin XL looks good but it can't out grill my 22" Weber charcoal kettle and it can't smoke as good as a Pit Boss smoker. I didn't know about the series 3 smoker. When you said it was perfect for you and your wife you sold me. I am going with the smaller Pit Boss series 3. Thank you Patrick for making up my mind..lol So for my final outdoor appliances it will be a 22 inch Weber kettle, my 36 inch Blackstone Griddle(those are fun to cook on) and your recommendation of a Pit Boss series 3 vertical smoker. Ty again.

[@PatrickSipperly]

Very cool, DOC Ohm! Thanks for watching and commenting. It means a lot to me! I think the Copperhead Series 3 is plenty big enough for most unless you're feeding a small army. It sounds like you have a great outdoor area!

[@meals24u]

*I have both as well (and then some lol) and here is my take on it::* I too believe that you will get a better smoke flavour out of the Vertical than your Austin XL, but I just got rid of my big Austin because it was not producing as good of a flavour as my two Traeger Barrels are producing. I have a small Traeger 20 series heavily modified that works like a dream, grilling for 4 ppl, then i have a Pro 34 for bigger events/gatherings and a Pit Boss Copperhead Vertical 3 series (like in this video). Btw, I’m not a fanboy to any particular brand at all, I’ll take what ever I can get my hands on haha.. (apparently wifey said 3 is enough, had to get rid of one) My experience has been that the small 20 series Traeger will smoke everything in a very VERY similar way like the Vertical does: Slow, steady, some temp swings but an absolute beautiful smoke ring, great flavour. Literally very similar. But my Pro 34 is more of a “Grill”, though I haven’t tried the exact same recipes on the big Pro like in the vertical and 20. But I have NOT been able to get the same smoky taste as with the other two units (same with the Austin) I’m not sure if that has to do with barrel size or what, because they have same electronics and I use same pellets, temps etc.. The Austin was even more of a “Grill” than the Pro34, less Smokey flavour but had even better temp control and burned a lot hotter too... That’s been my experience with them over the past 3 years. I do like em all though for their different strengths.. Hence why I keep 3 on hand hahah.. The one thing where I’d probably challenge this video is that there are plenty of ppl “grilling” with their vertical Pitboss. Couple of mods and you’re off to the races. However you will be at a disadvantage, due to the layout. But ppl do grill with their verticals.. And that sort of brings me to the last point: you can not smoke a big flank or brisket on a 3 series vertical WITHOUT cutting it. It just doesn’t fit, unless you “hang it”. I’ve hung stuff, specially Pork Tenderloins, but I don’t like to hang beef, specially not heavy pieces like brisket as you are stretching that meat big time (maybe string it next time??). Anyway, in contrast, I’m able to fit a 14-15 lbs brisket into my small 20 series Traeger, and it’s been giving me an amazing brisket!! So yeah.. In conclusion: If I could have only one, no doubt, it would def be a barrel smoker, but living in the country with plenty of room and having 3 different ones works too 😉😇 Much love!! Thanks for readin’.. Now GO SMOKE SOMETHIN’!!

[@bowhunter4745]

Smoked hamburgers are good. And I love bakeing on it to I have both the 5 series vertical and a pb 820 sp. Pluse a charcoal grill to smoke on when I want to.i love smokers and grills.😊

[@PatrickSipperly]

Right on

[@eliasstriber]

Great video , awesome way to explain the difference between both choices of smokers

[@PatrickSipperly]

Thanks 👍

[@joshfriend7103]

Another very informative video! You are so right with your explanations here. I went to my local Lowe’s with intentions of buying a Pit Boss 1100 pro series, but after careful consideration I bought the new Pit Boss pro series 4 series vertical smoker. I already have a gas grill and 2 Weber kettles so it only made sense to add a vertical smoker to the collection. Enjoying the channel, keep it up!

[@PatrickSipperly]

Awesome, Josh! Congrats on your 4 series. Be sure to share your smoking adventures!

[@docohm50]

He sold me on a vertical smoker also. Have you checked out the Blackstone Griddle? The wife surprised me on Christmas. I love it as it fills the gap between my Weber kettle and my vertical smoker I am about to buy.

[@ggtaruc2578]

Please tell us about the longevity of the Pit Boss smoker and are you happy with their customer service.

[@mrLD921]

Can you empty the pellets?

[@PatrickSipperly]

Yes. There is a small door at the base to empty the pellets.

[@mrLD921]

@@PatrickSipperly thank you. I am returning my pit boss 820 because there isn’t a way to empty. I’m going to replace it with this model

[@carriad11]

Greetings from Nova Scotia, Canada! Great instruction and since I already have a grill the vertical smoker is the obvious choice!! You get straight to the point which is the only way to go!!

[@PatrickSipperly]

Awesome, Thanks!

[@carriad11]

Greetings again; no doubt now it will be a Pit Boss Vertical 5. I am seeing issues with the augur jamming; seems the solution is don't leave pellets in the hopper. Or putting only enough pellets in the hopper to finish the smoking project. What is your experience?

[@PatrickSipperly]

@@carriad11 I've never had that problem, but I live in dry Arizona. My guess is that that issue happens more in humid climates and it's not really an augur issue...? That's just a guess.

[@carriad11]

@@PatrickSipperly Thanks for the prompt response! I would agree not an augur issue. Living in the maritimes I will empty the hopper after each use and learn to gauge the pellets needed for a particular smoke.

[@PatrickSipperly]

@@carriad11 You're welcome! One nice feature of those vertical smokers is a small door at the bottom of the hopper for easy emptying of the pellets: amzn.to/2YOvey7

[@jerrybarr921]

I went with the vertical series 5. Because I already have a bbq to grill. So I want a dedicated smoker then.

[@rustycasteele6121]

Pitboss also had an option with the KC Combo platinum, it's a smoker and a separate grill with the griddle option. Having a smaller smoker chamber this is absolutely amazing as far as s smoker and having a griddle hooked to it makes it perfect for me. Check that one out

[@PatrickSipperly]

Yes, here it is: pitbossgrills.77jaha.net/n7Gya If you have one, tell us how it's working for you!

[@rustycasteele6121]

@@PatrickSipperly it is everything I could want, I was thinking about getting an Austin XL and a Blackstone, BUT wife saw this and now I have the best of everything. I can smoke, grill, and even griddle. I smoked shrimp in the smoker while I made fried rice on the griddle, I was smoking a pork shoulder and fixed bacon and eggs on the griddle. I also use the griddle to sear steaks, gives them at all over crispy sear. In a word it's amazing. Now it's not the biggest, but it is perfect for a family and friends.

[@PatrickSipperly]

@@rustycasteele6121 Great to hear!

[@joeyshofner639]

Just got a vertical pit smoker, can't wait to try it out!!

[@PatrickSipperly]

Awesome! Keep us posted!

[@Trapshooter37]

Thanks for the review it helped me decide. You answered all the questions bouncing around in my head

[@PatrickSipperly]

Glad to hear it, Trapshooter37! Thanks for letting me know. It adds more meaning to my life.

[@meatjoe]

Great video! I have a question though. Can I use the vertical smoker as an oven as well without using pellets?

[@PatrickSipperly]

Well...what other heat source were you thinking of? This is a pellet smoker. It's built specifically for wood pellets... It is not an electric smoker... Here are some electric smoker that might perform the way you want it to: amzn.to/3ayoDj9

[@fAz3R626]

I already have a gas and charcoal grill so the vertical one would work best for me thanks

[@PatrickSipperly]

You're welcome. I hope you love it!

[@rudolphwatkins1692]

I smoked Beef and Turkey Burgers on mine and they turned out great

[@PatrickSipperly]

Great to hear!

[@deanguinn4436]

i was just about to comment the same thing when i found your comment. i don't even use my standard grill in years. i smoke everything from a full turkey to steaks to everything.

[@meals24u]

@@deanguinn4436 my man!!! Same

[@Metalsman75]

Really helpful. Thank you for taking the time to discuss these two options.

[@PatrickSipperly]

You're welcome. Glad to help.

[@jsmith218]

Exactly why I bought the vertical smoker, I want smoke not a grill to smoke on.

[@TheOffshorefishr721]

Thank you for taking the time to make this video. It was very helpful.

[@PatrickSipperly]

I'm glad you found it helpful, Erick. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@auzone819]

Hi, thanks for the info. I got an offset smoker and love it, but i m also interested on buying a vertical electric smoker for my lazy days lol . Have you ever tried smoking a brisket on the vertical one and if so what was the results?

[@PatrickSipperly]

Oh yeah! Brisket, pork butt, ribs, and more. It is what I smoke on. Vertical is the THE to go for smoking.

[@auzone819]

Perfect, Thanks

[@ehietpas07]

What thermometer are you using in your vertical smoker? It looks like an oven rack thermometer

[@PatrickSipperly]

I believe that is the correct name for that thermometer, but honestly, I don't use it. I use the digital thermometer on the smoker. I picked up a wireless digital thermometer that I still need to take out of the box! LOL.

[@devans911]

Thanks for the video, Pat. My years in the fire service taught me that heat (and smoke) naturally travel up, then over then down. So, a vertical smoker makes better use of natural convection.

[@PatrickSipperly]

Thank you, devans911! You've got much more authority in this than I do!

[@archerzahir7545]

I know Im kinda off topic but do anybody know of a good place to stream new series online ?

[@sagealonso2028]

@Archer Zahir i dunno lately i have been using flixportal. Just google for it=) -sage

[@archerzahir7545]

@Sage Alonso thanks, I went there and it seems like a nice service :D Appreciate it!!

[@sagealonso2028]

@Archer Zahir Happy to help =)

[@justinstimpson]

How about cleaning?

[@travisk310]

This is what ive been looking for, even better that you used Pitboss products as well. Thank you for your review! Ive had a Pitboss 820 grill for 4 years and yes i agree it does smoke adequately but I have never been satisfied with the smoking flavors compared to other smoker setups. My biggest issue with it is that the airflow through the grill dries out meat surfaces too much, its been tough to smoke fish on it because of this and it tends to turn thinner meats into jerky. I just purchased the Copperhead 5 vertical smoker but my biggest concern was again because its a pellet smoker that there would be too much airflow in the unit whereas a traditional smoker the smoke would generally be static rising from the wood chips and burner. I have built the unit but have been waiting for a good answer or opinion on this before using it for the first time. What is your opinion on this, do you find there is any airflow in the vertical smoker or does the smoke circulate more naturally compared to the grill?

[@PatrickSipperly]

Hello travisk310! First, thanks for the kind words. Second, I can't say that I've had the same dried-out meat issues. For what it's worth, I usually do a half-smoke - half-wrapped cooking process. I smoke the meat on the grill or vertical smoker for say, 4-6 hours, then either wrap the meat with plastic then with foil and put it back onto the grill or into a crockpot for the remaining cook time. This ensures juicier meats and has worked well for me. I also make sure there's a container of water in the smoker to keep the meat moist as well. As far as airflow, I explain my theories about why I think verticals are better smokers in the above video. The verticals also have just one outlet for the smoke vs the horizontal smoker grills that have the chimney and the drip hole. I see a lot of smoke escape out that way too. Let me know if any of this helps to answer your questions.

[@TheRealBean72]

This video answered a lot of my questions I really enjoyed the video. Nice shorts!!!

[@PatrickSipperly]

Glad to hear it! And shorts in Arizona is the only way to go!

[@joeknudsen7080]

Thank you, this grill help me understand better what I need....thank you for taking time to do

[@melvincopney3892]

What do think about the Platinum Series Lockhart?

[@PatrickSipperly]

They look pretty terrific, but I haven't used one - yet.

[@melvincopney3892]

Ok

[@hgonz14]

Looking to get a vertical smoker as I need something only for smoking, will get a napoleon prestige 500 for grilling uses.

[@sillydoggaming8330]

I love smoking food it has become a hobby of mine recently. Good video

[@PatrickSipperly]

Thank you! It's a hobby of mine as well.

[@BigGunz357]

Thank you for the video, I've never owned a pellet smoker, only off-sets. Took a lot of pride in my smoking back then, using only wood logs. After seeing the vertical at a store and the price I was very interested. Just got to save a bit and she'll be mine soon. Great info btw, again, thank you!

[@PatrickSipperly]

Thank you, BigGunz357! Glad you liked the video and I hope your future smoker grill serves you well!

[@BigGunz357]

For the past few years I've felt so empty inside without a smoker 😂

[@GreasyGoblin69]

@@BigGunz357 heyy! Do u still smoke?

[@CasualPooper]

How often do you have to fill your water tray when you're smoking

[@PatrickSipperly]

Every couple of hours, but honestly, I forget most of the time. I smoked a brisket for 10 hours recently and probably only refilled the water twice. I brined it 9 hours, smoked it 10 hours, and finished it in a crock pot for 5 hours. It was amazing. The best one yet. Smokey and most.

[@aliciajustice2583]

Thank you! Very helpful & the exact information I was looking for.

[@PatrickSipperly]

Glad it was helpful!

[@tatehester3155]

My Sirius 4 from pit boss grills very well and it's the vertical I have not had a problem with grilling on mine just the only thing is if you grill in the vertical you got a grill on the very top shelf or else you will not grill I have came to find that out myself

[@gigi9467]

Are the pellets expensive??

[@swdw973]

ThanKs, Since I have a Smoke Hollow grill with charcoal and gas grill sections AND a sear grill on it. This let me know that I have no seed for a horizontal smoker. This si much appreciated.

[@travistennert982]

Thank you! This video was exactly the information I needed!

[@PatrickSipperly]

Awesome!

[@michaeldaudert902]

Great video! This is the exact information I was looking for. I have a Traeger that is great for certain things, but I find that it lacks performance when smoking (I have a 575 model). I'm about to go ahead and buy myself a standup pit boss for some good long cooks. Thanks!

[@PatrickSipperly]

You're welcome, glad to help. Here's another vertical smoker video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnOwkqGBn9h6oqs

[@efegichris]

Has anyone had any issues with error codes ERH or ERL on the vertical smoker whilst following the instructions for priming, cleaning etc? I can't seem to go above 300F without getting either ERH or ERL which is temp too high or temp too low. Is there a fix that anyone has found or is something faulty?

[@PatrickSipperly]

I haven't had this issue so far...

[@eliott970]

you just saved me from buying the wrong product. I was going to get the horizontal one as a smoker but the vertical one is the obvious choice.

[@PatrickSipperly]

Glad to hear it, eliott970! I hope you really enjoy it. BBQ Guys is offering free shipping here: bit.ly/2kFheax

[@terryhatcher1508]

I have the Austin xl and live it

[@PatrickSipperly]

Me too!

[@dylanshabtai4554]

I don't see a link to the vertical smoker?

[@marleneortiz2726]

Omg, this is the video that we were looking for. Now, we can a better decision. Thanks you so much!!!

[@PatrickSipperly]

Awesome! Thank you, Jesus!

[@skwilson]

Great video Pat! Based on your information I am headed for a vertical smoker!!

[@PatrickSipperly]

Thanks, Scott! I really appreciate that. Did you have a particular model mind? Just Curious. Pit Boss has been cranking out new designs recently for what it's worth: pitbossgrills.77jaha.net/MqynJ

[@impulsepdr2175]

Do you have trouble fitting a packer brisket or whole salmon on your vertical?

[@PatrickSipperly]

If I remember correctly, the interior dimensions are 12.5" x 15" deep. I show that in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqqcZ6iPmNF-rKs at about 4:17. If your brisket or salmon fits those dimensions, then you're good!

[@jeffarcher3322]

Thanks, Pat. Good information. Any chance you could do a video on using the vertical smoker? In particular, discuss the water pan, why it needs one and the Austin does not have one. Thanks.

[@PatrickSipperly]

Hey Jeff, thanks for watching and commenting. I have a few videos featuring the Vertical. Here are links and let me know if any of these help: Ribeye in a Vertical: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHasgmqKYpx7oaM Cover: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jInGept8p9unm7c Chuck Roast: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3WqdYWEbc6ea5o Vertical vs Horizontal: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5Lce4SVbtyEn9U Review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpbVfaqNgdGces0 Another Review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqqcZ6iPmNF-rKs

[@Rob091876]

Great review! Very simply outlined! I'm still on the fence if I try to talk the missus into replacing our very new BBQ... or just get the smoker. My Bradley died and time to upgrade.

[@jonweiss3529]

Great video. I was in the fence on which type of smoker to get. I have a weber gas grill that i love to use, this made the decision easy. Going to buy a 5 Series pellet smoker tomorrow. Thank you for the review/ information.

[@PatrickSipperly]

You are very welcome, Jon. Glad to help. Thanks for watching and commenting on the video. I just created a video on how to easily clean the glass door: kzbin.info/www/bejne/boSknIFpgKmcqbM

[@jakep111]

How significant is the smoking quality difference between vertical and horizontal?

[@PatrickSipperly]

I think it's noticeable, but not off the charts. For example, today, I'm going to smoke a tomahawk steak then grill it. I'm going to do both in my Austin XL. I might also add a smoker tube to throw in more smoke. If I were just smoking, I'd use my Vertical, but since I'm smoking then grilling, it's the Austin Xl.

[@jakep111]

@@PatrickSipperly Thanks!

[@penwrites6006]

I literally came to the comment section to see you guys feedback. I'm about to buy my first smoker, and I wasn't sure if I should get the vertical or horizontal. I'm wondering just how much better of a smoked flavor does the vertical provide over the horizontal. Is it just a little better or lightyears better??

[@PatrickSipperly]

I would say verticals are offer noticeably better smoke flavor. When I want to smoke something, I get out my vertical every time.

[@penwrites6006]

@@PatrickSipperly thank you so much for the feedback.

[@victorshepherd5100]

Thanks for the video. This definitely helped with my decision. I do have a question about cooking area. For example, how many baby backs do you think you can get on both? Thanks again.

[@PatrickSipperly]

My Copperhead came with 4 racks that are about 12x15 each. The Austin XL has about 1000 sq inches. I cut ribs to fit as needed. I also finish a lot of my meat in a crock pot (vs wrapping them and putting them back out on the grill so they won't dry out). Up to you as to how you utilize that space. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@Yiffin84]

you can fit 12 racks on the pit boss pro series 4

[@alexvids9232]

vertical all the way. smokers are for smoking not grilling. get a weber kettle for the best grilling. i have a masterbuilt smoker and its amazing.

[@PatrickSipperly]

Thanks for sharing, AlexVids!

[@jq614]

Thanks for the video was exactly what I needed!

[@PatrickSipperly]

Glad it helped!

[@johnmanthey2683]

I think space is a major consideration. Also how much you smoke. If you do a lot of food for large groups or gatherings bigger is better. You said it best on the vertical just right for you and your wife. I have the Pit Boss Copperhead/series 5. Just too big for me as a single person. I’m going to replace it with a series 3 like yours. Likewise, the Austin XL also would be too big for me. Pit Boss makes a grill available at Walmart called the Classic. Similar to the XL, just smaller. Just about the right size for limited space and smaller families. I like my Pit Boss it’s a really great smoker and makes great food.

[@ArizonaVideoCompanyChandler]

I agree, John, and I think there might even a few others that would be the right size. Check 'em out here: pitbossgrills.77jaha.net/c/392390/760299/10421

[@JuJuBee223]

We have the PitBoss vertical smoker like this and love it. I was surprised to see the grill one had that great option to grill on the open flame. I know that the higher the temperature the more pellets you will use. Do you find yourself having to buy way more pellets for the PitBoss grill?

[@PatrickSipperly]

Hello Julia! Great question and to my surprise, no. The Austin XL is an efficient grill and doesn't burn through pellets as quickly as I feared when I bought it. It's a great grill though much heavier and bulky compared to the vertical smoker.

[@ileanadiaz7046]

Thank you pat for help in my decision

[@PatrickSipperly]

You're welcome. Glad to help!

[@Imjuslookinatthis]

Hi Patrick just gave you another "thumbs up!" You made my my water with the comments you sent to MM about your Brisket. Please give me the recipe and cooking instructions, thanks!!

[@PatrickSipperly]

Hi Dee Dee! Thanks for the thumbs up! Fortunately, the brisket is easy to cook. I think the brisket was about 6 lbs...ish... You can see the brine process here in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6rCoWuLbbCmeJY I grabbed a container and mixed 1 cup salt + 1 cup sugar into some water, then added some a tbs of liquid smoke. Mixed it thoroughly. I stabbed the brisket with a knife several times to create openings for the brine to penetrate easily. Then I submerged the brisket into the brine adding enough water to cover the meat. Then I topped it with ice to keep it cold enough for 9 hours outside of any refrigeration. The 9 hours isn't a magic number, it was just the time I had before I wanted to start smoking. You can brine for a couple of days if you want, but I wouldn't bother if it's less than 4 hours. Then into the vertical smoker for 10 hours (overnight in my case) @ 225. Then I took it out and put it directly into a large crock pot for 5 hours on low. I do that because after about 5 hours in the smoker it's just cooking anyway. Probably not much more smoke getting into the meat. Cooking it in a sealed crock pot keeps it moist the rest of the way. Some people wrap their meat. I prefer to use a crock pot. Then I shut off the crock pot and just let it rest as much as an hour. This was our travel time out to my folks' place. The meat was so moist and tender it started coming apart getting it out of the crock. The best brisket ever. Let me know if this helps.

[@stevenpoulos663]

Has anyone tried using the MojoBricks for their Grill/Smoker to improve the Smoke? I am in the Middle of trying to decide which Pellet Grill/Smoker to Purchase and i hear the same regarding lack of smoke flavor - and i have read that these MojoBricks improve that?- I have a Wood Vertical Smoker but takes a lot out of me running back and forth maintaining the Temp

[@Abigelow15]

Thanks for such an informative video! Being that sausage/meat sticks, brisket, and other lengthy smoke meats, vertical seems to be the wise choice for me. How do you feel about the finished product (compared to grilled meats, or those cooked in an electric smoker)? I've been fixated on the idea of a pellet smoker for years, but I'm also not familiar with the taste of the finished product.

[@localaz1887]

Glad you liked the video, Adam. (Adam Bomb - great name!) I prefer wood pellet cooking to electric or gas. The quality of the meat and your seasonings will play a huge role in the end product, but in general, I prefer the wood pellets. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@johnjohn8733]

What about ease of use/clean up? Seems like the vertical is more of a hassle.

[@PatrickSipperly]

I don't think it is and I hate cleaning.

[@ltakdg]

That was handy info, cheers

[@PatrickSipperly]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ninjarider443]

Does it have Wi-Fi? I so want to buy a chinese device and plug it into my wifi network so I (and them and anyone else) can have a point of entry into my home network.

[@robertlewis3116]

Great explanation. Thanks

[@PatrickSipperly]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting.

[@dieselboats7886]

Thanks! That really gives some simple perspective.

[@chriswright3616]

I bought the Austin xl about a year ago, I would have got the vertical had I known they made one. Only complaint I have with the xl is the lack of smoke flavor.

[@PatrickSipperly]

I understand, Chris. I didn't know they had a vertical either, but then again, I was looking for a pellet smoker grill. Your pellets will play a part in the smokiness but without a doubt, the vertical design offers more smoke regardless of pellets in my opinion. Thanks for watching and for the comment!

[@jonathanwilliams1974]

"Lack of smoke flavor" is a pretty significant complaint to have about a smoker.

[@MattManThurmostat]

Thanks, Patrick! This info is exactly what I needed to know.

[@PatrickSipperly]

Awesome! Glad to help.

[@perez82i]

Sweet take! I have a great grill already! I’m going with the vertical pit boss.

[@PatrickSipperly]

Excellent!

[@Larant88]

Just take the drip pan out of the pellet smoker and line the bottom of the grill with foil. Then you will get a better smoke flavor.

[@Marco-jl9nv]

Nice video, great explanation

[@PatrickSipperly]

Thanks, Marco!