Vertical Writing in Japanese

[@cheliae8560]

The Vertical writing looks so artistic and pretty!!

[@XiaosChannel]

well they were not meant to be art lol, if you dont need to write english words they are as useful as horizontal... i think

[@9zero187]

I really like your idea of the world adopting the vertical system instead, it looks so strange and unfitting, but also cool. And thanks for the video! I was curious on how often the vertical system is used

[@XiaosChannel]

I felt like it had something every good premise for an alternate reality has: Changes something fundamental yet arbitrary that we never thought about changing :) And glad it helps!

[@rufinajovel9584]

This is the exact informational video I was looking for. Thank you so much! I love how simple and clear you are. Will be checking out your other videos.

[@kroen]

Vertical definitely looks cooler than horizontal, but it's also definitely harder to read (for non natives).

[@XiaosChannel]

well the coolness is also relative. i imagine it to be boring for people who's used to it lol

[@MoosewithAneyePatch]

That was very informative 😊 thank you for making this video

[@XiaosChannel]

Before hate comments pour in lemme be clear: Kerning is nice, nothing wrong with it, and there are non-monospaced vertically written script like Mongolian

[@vishnoiindar6748]

Whr can i read doraemon manga online in japanese

[@XiaosChannel]

@@vishnoiindar6748 there are quite a few online services that offer ebooks, just search it on google in japanese.

[@lilswrldnotreal]

this helped a lot and i took lots of notes from this. ありがとございます！

[@OelHardrada]

some what late but you are missing an "う" it is ありがとう , the last o is a long one

[@lilswrldnotreal]

@@OelHardrada i have been studying, and i have not made this mistake in a while. thank you so much for pointing this out, あひがとうございます。

[@danielantony1882]

@@lilswrldnotrealYou got a typo.

[@lilswrldnotreal]

@@danielantony1882 omg i forgot i even made this comment hahaha. thank you, ありがとうございます。

[@danielantony1882]

@@lilswrldnotreal 👍

[@bonekazz-8441]

i realised that the matrix code, in the movie Matrix, is not a rain of japanese characters, instead is a code in vertical writing

[@erisedraine]

I’m learning to write kanji and when I write vertically I think I’m able to write neater but I don’t know why. Maybe because the paper I use has boxes instead of lines?

[@XiaosChannel]

well, i hardly ever write vertically, so i wouldn't know. i would say this though: in practice, fast and legible is important. people respect you if you write nice letters, but it's not as much about how neat you write as about how fast you write

[@ALitoBitofJapan]

Great job! You really have your sound so dialed in!

[@XiaosChannel]

i feel my mouth and the voice are a bit desynced in this video for some reason... bothers me tbh

[@ALitoBitofJapan]

@@XiaosChannel Yeah, I get that sometimes too. I'm not sure what the reason is. There must be a bottleneck somewhere along the line.

[@srenr645]

Hey、think you could do a video on particles (maybe lesser known/used particles or rare cases) for me it is the most confusing aspect of the language. Thx keep it up :)

[@XiaosChannel]

well, i can't think of any. could you give me some examples? if you want to talk to me I'm also on twitter @xiaoschannel you can just send messages my way

[@srenr645]

@@XiaosChannel Sorry but i'm still a beginner in the language, and was hoping you might know of some, but i find combined particle pretty confusing and it always seems there is a new way to use a particle. I guess I will just do some more research. thx anyways.

[@XiaosChannel]

@@srenr645 ah, well i did not learn japanese that way so i dont really know what is a combined article lol

[@srenr645]

@@XiaosChannel Ex. には、では

[@XiaosChannel]

ah i see, never thought of it that way but now that you mentioned it

[@SeanPat1001]

Thanks for the interesting insight. I never realized the Chinese word order! I use MS Word, which handles both horizontal and vertical Japanese writing nicely. (Nowadays) I can write by hand vertically faster than horizontally. I think it’s because my pen ends up in the right place. However, I am right-handed and have to let the ink dry completely in vertical writing to avoid smearing it. My left-handed son has trouble with horizontal writing, but not vertical. XD For the direction of horizontal writing in Japanese, if you rotate vertical writing 90 degrees CCW, it will have the same order as horizontal writing. Sometimes, English words are embedded in vertical writing by rotating the English letters 90 degrees CW. The English words can be easily read by rotating the page CCW. みんなさん、またね！

[@coolbionicle]

This might sound stupid but on my journey learning japanese I've been making myself learning to write and reading it vertically natively. I figured that since I already know spanish and english which are left to right I might as well kill two birds with one stone and once I get proficient at japanese I'd just go "lazy" while writing it and do it left to right. That way both styles would feel natural from the get go.

[@XiaosChannel]

You mean vertically left to right? Either ways today's japanese people rarely write vertically, probably due to westernization

[@jetjehmeen3913]

こ ん に ち は

[@LyraYT]

W

[@amadeosendiulo2137]

Tre interesa filmeto, dankon!

[@samuelr007ruiz9]

I like your KZbin design

[@Matthew-fj6eu]

THANK YOU! I NEEDED THIS :D! Btw if I may know, what are you doing in Japan?

[@XiaosChannel]

I am an AI engineer at the moment.

[@Purple431]

それはいいですね

[@L77Drama]

读竖排文字至今不习惯，短的还行，长的就完蛋。我来日本以前如果知道这个，绝对放弃。事实上我现在来了也一样在放弃的道路上了。

[@danielantony1882]

I don’t know why, but I don’t have any issue reading vertical Japanese.

[@weiwang8009]

在民國治下的臺灣，文字豎排仍然經常在使用。在國語文課本與古文是完全使用豎排。

[@XiaosChannel]

哦这样啊，除了课本还有什么是竖排的？好奇一下

[@kuantingchen]

@@XiaosChannel 台灣的報紙也是豎排和橫排併用的。一般書籍的話，有豎排也有橫排。像是小時候看的金庸武俠小說就是直的、但是哈利波特就是橫的。所以現在不管是直的還是橫的我們看起來都是無障礙，因為日常生活中就是這麼過來的。

[@LILProductions]

When will you upload again?

[@XiaosChannel]

Hopefully in a month

[@HadynsTVdoc]

Can you write ゼルダの伝説 vertically? Getting this for a tattoo

[@danielantony1882]

How did it go?

[@HadynsTVdoc]

@@danielantony1882 Was good! Love the tattoo

[@danielantony1882]

@@HadynsTVdocI think what would be more interesting is if you could put ゼルダ in Hentaigana, like 𛁒゙𛃹𛁡゙, which is the old Hiragana system.

[@HadynsTVdoc]

@@danielantony1882 I'm focusing on learning the language. Eventually I'll move on to the written language. It's all so hard lol

[@danielantony1882]

@@HadynsTVdoc Oh, you aren’t gonna see 𛁒゙𛃹𛁡゙ in writing. It’s archaic, just like Ðð and Þþ in English.

[@radimgabaj4263]

When will be the hentaigana video released?

[@XiaosChannel]

well it's nice to know people are looking forward to it lol the next video will be the review of the japanese exjw manga -- i havent done anything on religion for a while so it get the priority, and i've put off making it for 2 years already the one after that will be kana series on diacritics as planned there will be at least 1 video after that that's on magic the gathering in japan, maybe another vlog, depends on how things go with me IRL -- my situation is quite volatile due to the pandemic and stuff and the next one in kana series might be hentaiganas. it's probably gonna be even more research than the small kanas lol at the current pace of one video every 2 weeks, sometimes before christmas, hopefully?

[@radimgabaj4263]

@@XiaosChannel Ok so after the next one? I´m really excited for it!

[@XiaosChannel]

@@radimgabaj4263 no, before christmas... read what i wrote

[@shadowpastathetf2kidwithau706]

My chainsaw man hoodie have power written like this 「パ ワ ー 」

[@XiaosChannel]

was it a vertical bar or horizontal bar

[@nanookthedoggo904]

i have a question, do you go to the second line (when writing vertically) when the sentence ends, or not. and if not then when do you go to the second line? idk of that makes sense

[@XiaosChannel]

no. it's a subjective judgement when you'd end a paragraph.

[@nanookthedoggo904]

@@XiaosChannel ohhh so you choose whenever you want to got to the next line?

[@kaseidesu]

研究性很高！看出来是高知识人才了

[@XiaosChannel]

谢谢。。。我还在做更多的视频

[@siyacer]

interesting

[@danielantony1882]

Honestly, as someone who has 0 connection to the sino-sphere, it’s basically not even a challenge for me to read vertical text, so I really want to say one thing: _“skill issue, bro.”_ Jokes aside, novels are pretty easy for me, but manga can be hard, ’cause I never know how they actually want me to read the damn thing. A lot of the times, I can’t figure out for the life of me how the damn column transitions work. But in general, Manga seems more like this nowadays: ⬇↖⬇◀⬇↖⬇ ⬇↖⬇◀⬇↖⬇

[@XiaosChannel]

well if you're going for nowadays i think they are more like this: down down down down down down (you probably get it by now lol)

[@danielantony1882]

@@XiaosChannel I was talking about how it was in manga nowadays, but sure 😂

[@大鸣大放]

你到底是中国人还是日本人啊

[@XiaosChannel]

住日本的北京人。

[@kaseidesu]

这集很有意思诶！！

[@kaseidesu]

感觉剪辑也很好，很自然

[@XiaosChannel]

哈哈，谢谢。。。当时费了不少功夫