Very Bad, No Good, Soulless AI Movie Making

[@fleurevers2315]

It feels like the death of art, but life and art finds a way…

[@yellowblanka6058]

To be fair, Hollywood usually has far more to do with commercialism than art.

[@douchopotamus3755]

"life finds a way" but it may be that the cockroaches are the only life left to find a way

[@apollofell3925]

I know this sounds silly but it was actually while messing around with generative AI ~2023 that made me realize the only thing in the universe that could turn my vision into compelling art was *me.* Truly meaningful and compelling ideas are inspired by real emotion to evoke real emotion - something computers don't have. Since then I've been working hard to start bringing my ideas to life and it's fkin awesome

[@Ronin2079]

no its the death or culling of unimaginative artists that are too dumb to learn a new skill. This happened 30 years ago in the photography world when photoshop came out. The clients heard that any photo can be altered to look anyway they want and when older stubborn photographers refused to learn photoshop, they were replaced by the younger ones who simple picked it up and used it. This is already happening now. Artists are losing jobs hand over fist right now and its not to AI, its to OTHER ARTISTS using AI. Keep not using it, more work for those of us who are.

[@apollofell3925]

@@Ronin2079 It's just cute the way you AI bros act like you're taking anything but the least fufilling work from artists and putting out anything half as intersting to people who truly appreciate art. AI fiction isn't interesting. AI art doesn't evoke any deeper meaning. AI music has no texture or subtlety. You're all completely helpless when the power goes out. Even photoshop artists can make things the old fashioned way. There are no shortcuts in good art and a computer will never elevate you past mediocrity.

[@glitchedoom]

It's a goddamn shame we lost David Lynch at a time when we need people like him the most.

[@marianojunioralcondoregosa9067]

This is how I find out dabid lynch passed away....wow

[@MartinDubuque]

Finding out Sam Altman pitched to investors that he'd make a big smart robot that would tell him how to make a bunch of money, and they all bought in, shows just how desperate the tech industry is.

[@Grogeous_Maximus]

Altman is an ever bigger snake oil salesman than Musk

[@Cumdown]

Yeah, cos no one would ever think that was a good idea...

[@MrBaskins2010]

the intense body horror that AI is capable of is truly horrifying. video generated by AI is unintentionally spooky. im good off all that

[@Davemon115]

Come for the criticism, stay for the vague yet markedly accurate Nolan jabs

[@anonymousmurphy]

3:02 didn’t even know AI rotoscoping, an actually useful feature that could save time and creative energy to be reallocated elsewhere, even existed until seeing this. GenAI is being pushed for all the wrong reasons while genuinely useful applications get pushed to the wayside, and it’s fucking infuriating.

[@draco_1876]

It’s not art

[@apollofell3925]

There's a channel here on YT called Elephant Graveyard Radio Hour Podcast that uses AI art and AI voices to create some truly spectacular and unique content. The photos and voices aren't art on their own - but combining them over a script that is unmistakably human in its direction and message is 100% art. I truly believe the posdcast would not be as good without the use of AI, and I cannot deny it is some of the most brilliant and heartfelt content I've come across in years.

[@OrgaNik_Music]

@@apollofell3925 still slop

[@icravedeath.1200]

​​@@apollofell3925assault on precinct 13 crew created an excellent action movie out of to he equivalent budget of 3 pennies found in your shoe. He could've just done the audio and left it at that, the ai art and images just seems wholly unnecessary. And couldn't get just hire actors to do the other voices?

[@allsosavvy]

Coming from a person in film, specifically in audio, there is SO MUCH that we use AI (or tech that is currently being lumped into the marketing umbrella term) that helps everyone so much. AI noise reduction is a godsend and has been used for a good few years now. In terms of VFX, AI rotoscoping helps alleviate by far the most arduous, miserable job in post-production. The best thing about these tools is that they help get rid of the cleanup work that gets in the way of doing the more fun parts of ones job. But no boardrooms would rather use AI to fart out IP screenplays and force title artists out of the job. We are so close. Shoutout to the artists who went on strike and stopped the industry being demolished in 5 seconds.

[@jonathanperreault4503]

same , i work in video games and whenn making 3d models there are so many tools that just were not possible before , perfect normal maps , depth maps from anything , instant perfect uv unwrapping and photogrammetry from 1 image altough , i have zero problem with using a/i to make a full 3d model for me since its always been a job that takes 200+ hours per model , basically , nobody even the most skilled artists ever came close to the models a.i gives and now as a solo game dev i can make a project as large as if i ad a team the size of ubisoft or blizzard ,absolute game changer

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

This is the thing. Using Machine Learning to separate music from vocals is a GODSEND, but insyead we've got every company ever going "NOW WE DON'T NEED TO FILM THINGS!" with their generative nonsense that barely works.

[@OrgaNik_Music]

Yes, AI works when it's being used as a tool, but I guess it's not as profitable and "cool" so we're being marketed the slop churners instead.

[@jonathanperreault4503]

@@TheSmart-CasualGamer no ,just look at all the papers coming out there are rally good control methids that let you be extrebely precise with what you want as an output from the a.i , super precise poses or facial expressions , there is nothing wrong with making that whole movie with a layer of a.i on stop since working as a vfx artist in the industry is an incredibly repetitive job with people whos entire live is to do a single type of detail on an avengers miovie , (someone i know was making the white glare on the eyes of actors for months) now you can have an artist that actually make a movie , actual artistic direction from one person , not board of direction and no 100 million budgets making everything inflexible

[@jonathanperreault4503]

@@OrgaNik_Music that dosent even make sense , a.i is a.i ,all the diferent tools are based on the same technology , you use the tools you like , do yu only use the a.i selastion tool ? the a.i uv unwraping or do you use a.i that moves around the pixels for an entire image then aa whole video i cant wait untill the low end users get proper control methods and we can see the word slop going away a.i only looks bad and generic if its a small model with no directions

[@RndmAnvgr777]

I fucking love you dude. You just saved me so much time when discussing how I feel about "AI". I'll just send them this video since it touches on so many of the negatives.

[@QBG]

Harland is clearly a fan of Red Letter Media. As are we all.

[@CollegeDroputPowerpoints]

I heard Donald Farmer and my eyes lit up

[@rubberface1424]

One little piece of good news: 'Every Frame a Painting' is posting again :)

[@tylershadlow5792]

Yay, we can expect more insufferable people who live at the peak of the dunning-Kruger curve trying to talk about film theory...

[@sanzyboy3952]

When you let ai make a whole movie it becomes a very "hallucinating" experience.

[@h3rbsman]

It insists upon itself

[@JackAErickson]

As a web designer, wrestling with AI to try to get a desired result has given me more empathy for my clients 😂

[@jeffreygriffith649]

This is such a good way to know what it’s like for a client to try and explain themselves and what they are trying to get

[@katjofilms5290]

This is a pretty inspirational video as someone who wants to make films. It makes me feel like there is still hope for humanity

[@puppetactor]

Make the film. Don't let anyone stop you.

[@lilMissmAlice]

If that AI thing was Matthew Broderick with a moustache then so am I

[@OrgaNik_Music]

At the end of the day, aren't we all Matther Broderick with a moustache

[@Tamajyn]

My favourite part was 0:00 - 26:00 Was that monologue at the end Gene Wilder or Robin Williams? It seems so familiar It feels like unless you're a legacy user with a grandfathered in audience, the ship has sailed for ever being able to make it on KZbin as a small creator now Not only do we have to contend with the clickbait faceless content farms, now KZbin will be flooded with 10x more AI slop than before now too 🙄

[@a.gunter2893]

Robin Williams. It's from the movie Dead Poets Society.

[@mattstuckintime]

Harland is so crisp, it’s like the polesaw box is in the room with me.

[@jessehammer123]

3:18 The dogs and humans usually just look a little uncanny to me, but (as a cat owner since birth) this “cat” horrifies me to an unspeakable extent. It’s just deeply wrong in such a way that I can’t even look at it. I’m reminded of when Sora tried to make “eel cats”- eel-cat hybrids with the front half of cats and the back half of eels. The dead, ghoulish eyes still sometimes give me nightmares.

[@Mike_Wazowski_z]

All of these people who think AI is going to take over art fundamentally do not understand art or the process of making it... which is why they're using AI

[@Grogeous_Maximus]

It's very impressive to people who are NPCs, yes. Like that Rick and Morty episode where Jerry is too much of a tool to recognize he's in a (very unconvincing) simulation

[@Tenchinu]

the stench of this ‘get rich quick’ scheme from the crypto bros kinda makes you wonder how many in a row they can pull before speculative investors actually start tasting the snake oil they just bought... or if, no matter the flavor, they'll gulp it down cause everyone is doing it nd don't wanna b unpopular

[@TooRudeProductions]

Oh my God, not Neil Breen! Don't hit me with that jump scare! If I wanted to play Fnaf, I'd go do that.

[@robderiche]

i am one of those lunatics who made an inept movie all by himself!

[@modelmajorpita]

Every Frame A Painting was a treasure, I should rewatch all their videos...

[@zEropoint68]

movie with the best car chases: the blues brothers fite me

[@ChiefSlacc]

1) Hell yeah brother on the Lynch nod. 2) Maybe wash it and see how you feel?

[@TooRudeProductions]

23:31 as somebody who runs 4 KZbin channels, it's insulting when I see people use AI for their thumbnails, like if you can't even handle a thumbnail don't even start

[@TooRudeProductions]

Bro, I need to go rewatch Bullet

[@eatatjoe]

Hell, I wrote 9 pages of…something, and now that is considered art.

[@TheMightyPika]

Chris Crawford said in his "Dragon Speech" that there are three kinds of audiences: Casuals, Critics, and Connoisseurs. He suggested that artists ignore casuals as they aren't concerned with much else than surface level entertainment, and also to ignore critics unless you're aiming for whatever the equivalent of Oscar Bait is in your medium. He encouraged people to aim for connoisseurs as they will appreciate your love of the medium AND be happy to communicate with you about what they think (sometimes too happy), which helps you grow as an artist. I think that something the big entertainment companies have learned from the success of the "live action" Disney remakes (among other things) is that the casual audience doesn't care about quality - they dump billions of dollars into literal brain rot garbage then forget about what they experienced, ready for the next. AI "art" is aiming for the casual audience. The connoisseurs and critics can scream into the void all they want - this is for wasteful consumption and nothing further.

[@numinousnihil3804]

Giving the game away here - the reason the guy keeps changing is because if he was static it would suggest the same reference - meaning specific people would be entitled to a copyright claim and a payout. In the ai ‘art’ space that doubles as a dopamine hit for randomly making a ‘good gem’. These people are monsters who turned art into a casino because it’s easiest to monitize with impunity.

[@cXms-k8y]

🤣 a childish doodler yapping about soul It's not that deep kid grow up Art is nonsense

[@jillparker6553]

I would certainly rather watch The Room than anything AI 😂 Loving your channel and POV!

[@rickfakhre2400]

Every Frame a Painting is back!!! He has some new ones.

[@darnbricks]

Your hair's great. I haven't had a haircut ever since the lockdown - I just shave my head bald every eighteen months and let it grow back, and I haven't heard any complaints thus far. Don't worry about it.

[@d.rabbitwhite]

Capitalism not only encourages exploitation, it can not truly function without exploitation. Well maybe in theory it could, but it has not done so thus far.

[@justletmepostthis276]

How do you know if this Technology isn't making some type of Digital Socialism for the Wealthy?

[@christopherhemric1754]

Buzz the hair! Oi! Oi!

[@snart2195]

Your background is such a vibe I can relate to

[@robertruffo2134]

No scripts nor shots are actually produced via A.I. for any Hollywood movie or TV series. One opening sequence used it, a few years ago. Backlash nixed that

[@rubberface1424]

Yes, you see, when they build powerplants it's a good thing because it generates jobs, but creative work should be automated because who needs the hassle, frankly?

[@CollegeDroputPowerpoints]

I would also like to say it doesn't look like it's made for theaters. The forced gray palette and camera work make it look more like a cheesy geico commercial it looks made for tv at best.

[@kariahava764]

"My words exactly." - AI

[@bjammin187]

Watching that AI movie made Harlan feel like he was taking crazy pills.

[@brokennib1]

Naw, buzzcut. White walls, high and dry. Great winter time cut, lol

[@averyeml]

My principal at my Pre-K through 12 international school has been using AI more and more and more at work. First it was just to help translate school messages into the myriad languages the kids’ parents speak (never mind he’d then have the full time paid translator person he has on staff double check it), then this year he’s used it to make a lot of posters and visuals. In a meeting last week he ominously mentioned that “AI is playing a big role in what he has planned” in a conversation about plans for next year’s educational goals and I am TERRIFIED.

[@patrickracer43]

16:17 the AI trying to recreate Bullet is especially egregious

[@felman87]

Those AI videos remind me of a young Felman playing around with powerpoint. I used every tool available, with random music in the background from slide to slide, along with utilizing everything transition. It. Was. A. Mess.

[@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842]

Every Frame a Paintings releases new videos again

[@Sean-sq8vw]

Really enjoyed the sequence at 23:52

[@RavikantRai21490]

You don't know that Every Frame A Painting is back?

[@steveafulton]

I loved this so much. The last few minutes proved your point perfectly.

[@comalies]

couldn't agree more! great video, gonna send it to everyone who still doesn't get it.

[@TooRudeProductions]

17:13 The Santa Cruz Joker looks cooler than that

[@phoenixgirl70]

Bravo! And RIP David Lynch. One of my favorite directors who could make me cry, laugh, horrify me in ways others couldn’t. I will miss him dearly.

[@btarczy5067]

If I were you I‘d just let a robot cut my hair. Wait, did I just stumble over the greatest argument against AI?

[@chrisgenovese8188]

i can only hope that AI goes through such an endless feedback loop of referencing itself that it becomes entirely unstable and unusable. they will probably try to code it so it doesnt reference other AI slop, but it seems almost inevitable. its crazy how quickly it went from seeming like a useful TOOL to being the whole creative process from beginning to end. i cant imagine being so gleeful at the prospect of taking art away from artists, but im not a diabolical, talentless hack. just a talentless hack.

[@FuckYourSelf99]

There's already a term for this, 'Habsburg AI'. A similar analogy would be BSE, where cows fed the brains of other cows developed a lethal prion disease. AI iteratively ingesting already error-ridden AI output will eventually suffer 'model collapse'.

[@dyskelia]

The dramatic oscar ceremony montage at the end with the DPS speech ✨

[@kirkenstiensmonster]

I've been noticing ai "art" being used by some devs in the PlayStation store. I refuse to buy any game that uses it. The dev could make cover art in MS paint and that would be infinitely more creative. Or, ya know, hire an artist.

[@TooRudeProductions]

I've literally stopped being friends with people who use AI

[@sudd3660]

me too, god damn the times we live on right now..........

[@benjamindover4337]

Hollywood studios are going full steam ahead and insisting that AI be used everywhere. In two years we will be longing for the good old days of Madame Web.

[@AiWiz24]

Madame Web? Hollywood messing up creating slop as well so Ai ain't gonna do that much damage

[@CollegeDroputPowerpoints]

Are you Jacksfilms 10 years in the future?

[@rockerboyworldwide152]

Immediately fixated on the burning love shirt. Swag on infinity

[@huddletron]

Art has something to say.

[@lakegroce685]

I’ve seen that Skechers ad in the metro station and I honestly couldn’t tell if it was real art or not.

[@chim-choo-ree]

Oh Harland, my Harland.

[@Archbassh]

10:30 more importantly, it’s the idea that there were a series of *decisions* being made at a level that belies clear intention on a group of creators collaborating together. “AI” as it exists now is just pulling a slot machine over and over again until you get the sequences you want - that’s how the math behind LLMs and and Neural Networks function, even if the entropy behind it is eventually guided. It still can’t guarantee an answer that the user wants dictated by the prompt. To rely on the LLM to make the decision for the user is a recipe for shoddy work at best, and a sort of anti-art at worst.

[@CedarCream]

I’ve watched videos made with meme gifs and wojacks that have better visual storytelling than the generative AI shorts I’ve seen.

[@MrBojangles1224]

i mostly agree but there are use cases AI blew me away, like creatures, monsters or in some cases aging/de-aging characters. it seems to me that AI generated clips sometimes look more natural and realistic than "handmade" cgi that still looks off after decades of improvements. would be interesting to implement that in modern special effects at least

[@lookatdemijipers]

buzz it off brother

[@Pixie桜]

I am an Artist. Anyone thinking selling art is a "get rich quick" tactic has never tried making a living as an Artist, nor spoken to one who is, on any meaningful level. I chose this career and am not complaining about "being an Artist". I LOVE being an Artist! Even when it is hard, which is most of the time. Sure, SOME Artists get rich (1%). Most don't. Some people exploit loopholes or fads, but that doesn't last. I like creating, but financially stable it is not (for myself and every Artist I know). I have my opinions on AI, but this video summed it up pretty well. In my 4 1/2 decades on Earth, I have seen people claim credit for others work many times. It never lasts because it isn't real. No one gets out of the WORK required to EARN skills. Filmmaking is one of the most difficult paths out there. It is amazing these projects get made at all and even more amazing if it all comes together and works in the end due to all the hands and minds involved! I respect it. I am not going to say prompting a film is "wrong"...just don't get mad when you can't copyright something you didn't make and/or you get clowned on for it because it is not impressive because literally ANYONE can do it. 🪙🪙

[@pk1645]

17:20- Thank you sir. It’s about time someone said that.

[@UncannyValley33]

AI slop has got to stop! The internet needs more “guy complains by himself in a basement” videos NOW!

[@AdamTheCoop1]

I wouldnt care about people focusing and using AI if it wasnt burning up resources and costing people jobs and money. I love your content!

[@burgerpocalypse]

i had no idea ai was used for some scenes in everything everywhere all at once but i did in the moment think they looked a little odd. now i know that theyre AI FRAUDS

[@Miniweet9167]

A gaffer is not responsible for direction of photography. “A gaffer or chief lighting technician is the head electrician, responsible for the execution (and sometimes the design) of the lighting plan for a production” (Wikipedia) 8:30 That’s like blaming the head plumber for the look and finish of the roman neoclassical bathroom.

[@okag3]

I wish pro AI people wanted to solve problems. Just making films is hard but it isn’t really a problem to solve. Getting sign off for funding is a huge problem. Considering a lot of producers and directors nowadays aren’t great at reading drawn storyboards/animatics, that AI generated sequence at the beginning of the video would answer a lot of questions for pre-production. Sure it’s rough but you can at least get approvals to go actually film the sequence! Not a fan of AI but that’s a useful use case.

[@sweetdee8884]

i support buzzing it 🐝👏

[@liamcollinson5695]

i wonder if Hollywood will accept my ai generated money if they are going to put zero effort in then so will i it's bad enough with all the crappy cgi we get

[@TLabsLLC-AI-Development]

It's going to be okay.

[@Cheatcoe]

Every frame a painting is still around dude ... Check them out

[@sudd3660]

the most ignorant comment defending "ai" is that humans are also just creating stuff influenced by other peoples work. literally saying that humans are bots and vice versa.

[@purplespades9632]

Or worse,defending ai being used by corporations,so they don't have to pay for their workers. Then, they'll say,"No,ai isn't the problem here, it's the person using it." AI Art bootlickers are the biggest losers I've ever seen.

[@doggfite]

I feel like shaved heads are going to be making a comeback real soon, so maybe dont buzz it too close lol

[@unspeakableoaf]

No, nothing is worse than that U2 album being forcefully put in people's libraries. Nothing.

[@shinniehildebrand]

Do a Tim Robbins Shawshank Redemption style undercut. The one he has towards the end of the movie, when he gets the rope from Red. Would look good on you, imho. :)

[@andrewfarrell6120]

Buzz it. During the pandemic, I stopped going to the barber. Now I simply buzz my head every couple of months. It's so liberating

[@MrAdamFC]

I can see one use of AI in films. Making those fake video game scenes like the one seen in Ride Along. Because those scenes always looks like shit .

[@2120musiclover]

I never was here for it.

[@TeamCryptidRobotics]

I didn't expect the movie Click to catch a stray. That's not even the worst Adam Sandler movie, Pixels is much worse

[@TommyLikeTom]

Of all the things to talk about right now

[@timmothytim-tickle4648]

Hey what were the movies shown at the end of the video?

[@harlandspinks]

Just few I had available on my computer. The audio is from Dead Poets Society, the clips were from Tree of Life, Point Break, Mulholland Drive, Do The Right Thing, Panic Room, and No Country For Old Men, respectively.

[@timmothytim-tickle4648]

@ thank you! Keep up the great work!

[@zerazukin]

Neil Breen jumpcare lmao

[@messwithhelpy]

yes. i can taste ash. guarantee the first thing people will try with AI is remake popular old movies....im queasy thinking about it.

[@EdrickBluebeard]

Art is in the Humanities for a reason. No matter how advanced AI becomes, a handprint on a cave wall will always be better. Also, Beast Jesus is the King.

[@78deathface]

Don’t cut your hair, just poke it out until it hits your shoulders

[@TooRudeProductions]

If we just stop using humans and start using AI, then movies come to a standstill, nothing new can happen, nothing can be innovated, those random instances that make iconic moments in movies that were never meant to happen are just gone! In a world of AI, Indiana Jones just has the sword fight, instead of just shooting the guy!

[@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145]

Every Frame a Painting... the only "EFAP" worth watching.

[@greghenrikson952]

I don't think there's any hope of stopping it. In another few years, "movies" will be churned out at the same insane pace that "songs" can be churned out by AI. And we'll be awash in garbage. I mean much of social media already is. And as it gets better and better visually, we won't be able to tell. That's going to happen. Traditional film may hold out for a bit, but once the best AI systems can create a visually indistinguishable movie, the industry is finished. The costs will be so much lower, the producers will have to switch. Now with MUSIC, the real thing is still relatively cheap and easy to create. A few people with basic equipment and skill can do it in a garage. But film requires the work of hundreds of people over years, at a cost of many millions. It's a profoundly inefficient system that only produces maybe 1% of the scripts or fewer. If creators can instead just create digital storyboards and let the AI fill it in, why would they go through that?

[@TooRudeProductions]

Christopher Nolan is severely overrated, component but lacks in stylistic expression, hence why his Batman movies are kind of boring because there's just nothing fantastical, it's just real life with a man bat billionaire. Batman 89 will always be better than the Dark Knight simply because it has more personality. Come at me nerds.

[@Freshmarketflesh]

It’s so depressing that ai is taking all of the creative jobs and capitalism doesn’t let artists to just do art just for fun. You either have to sell your art, or you don’t have enough time to make art, due to working yourself so exhausted that even if you had free time you’d be too exhausted. I always wanted to paint and draw as my career but due to capitalism not validating those things at all, I chose to go study to become a fashion designer or a textile worker. But sadly even those jobs are threatened by capitalism thanks to fast fashion. I’m afraid that after getting my textiles and fashion degree, I’d still need to take out my old hygiene license from my wallet and get myself a job from the restaurant or fast food industries, so I won’t be in fear of not having enough money for food or healthcare. Btw I don’t even like in America. I live in Finland and even here, our government is favoring private healthcare and a bar of chocolate is over 4 euros

[@AKImeru]

"That person"... Is actually the head of the studio behind life, death robots. They also went to this year CES to have a moan about the hate they got saying they need to educate people to enjoy pointless, bizarre Ai Slop or it won't work. Continue rejecting this nonsense.

[@pxchybxn]

23:03 I had to drop a few channels because they did the same thing I was genuinely upset with one of the channels because he used to use his community to give him thumbnails but he started to use ai and it was so disheartening ngl.

[@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842]

I think that a movie produced with ethically dubious methods, where people or animals were knowingly harmed is probably still worse than AI generated visual content... But this not an endorsement for AI slop in cinema.