Movie Stars Ruined Cinema

[@unclejimmyjambirino7185]

How can u associate someone with something you’ve never heard of

[@harlandspinks]

I realized that didn’t make sense in the edit but said all the shit before and left it in hoping no one would notice.

[@unclejimmyjambirino7185]

@@harlandspinks I almost unsubscribed it upset me so much

[@gabriellawaldi]

@@unclejimmyjambirino7185 I hope you're joking? On the one hand people don't want videos make by bots on the other hand people want human being to be perfect and never make a mistake ever or else....

[@GreedoGangrene]

Mark Wahlberg playing himself for the 20th time

[@ir8free]

Typecast Jason Statham, Dwayne Johnson, etc. also bore me.

[@andersdenkend]

Can't wait for the mid-budget movie to make a return. It baffles me, that studios aren't setting aside a small amount of money to give to filmmakers and basically tell them: "Do whatever you want!". Because if you fund 10 projects like these, it's still cheaper than the next Cinematic Universe and there's bound to be at least a success or two in there. Wouldn't that make more sense than spending 200 - 300 million (wtf) and hoping the movie makes 1 billion or more?

[@mggardiner4066]

I think they are doing that with tv shows now, especially as they can scrap them and remove content if they aren’t runaway successes and get tax credits claiming it as a loss

[@sikmunkee]

been saying this for years!! miss the 2000’s midbudget comedy/horror

[@xaicho]

the voice actor thing being taken over by a-listers really irritates me because if it's a recognizable name/voice then all i can do is imagine them in the booth emoting and it takes like half the movie for me to forget that i'm listening to an actor doing lines to being invested in a character.

[@vraisairs9201]

This isn’t a problem with actors, it’s producers not trusting audiences to like anything new

[@ir8free]

bad writers too

[@frustratedlad2826]

i don't think he means for it to be about the actual actors, its about the idea of 'movie stars' and the industry that creates them

[@abraxasjinx5207]

​@@frustratedlad2826and this goes way back. This video says that started with Robin Williams in the 90s, but Disney and animators were doing that way way earlier. From Cab Calloway in the 30s to Pearl Bailey in the 80s. Alladin definitely did start a trend of animated movies *requiring* known voices to read the lines though. My favorite voice actors are 1-Phil Hartman, RIP, and 2-Billy West (who does a mean Phil Hartman impression).

[@welpppppppppppppp]

this all feeds into my pet theory that star =\= actor =\= theatre kid. there's a venn diagram... but it's not all overlapping

[@KelleyGreenEcstasy]

My brain thought you got a haircut before it realized it's just a hat

[@keiththorpe9571]

I often attribute our growing dislike of celebrities (Movie stars, singers, youtubers, etc.) to an ever-increasing disenchantment with elite culture and the out-of-touch people (often extremely uneducated idiots and talentless nepo-babies) who inhabit that social strata. I didn't used to let that sort of stratification of society bother me, but It is beginning to fill me with a rankling, festering sort of rage. Also...The Next 5 Planet of the Apes movies?!?! I'm exhausted just saying this. Depending on who you ask, that franchise "started" with either a Mark Wahlberg movie, or a James Franco movie. What the holy hell?!?!

[@ir8free]

Avatar is the cynical beginning of the end of remotely interesting blockbusters.

[@TwistVisuals]

The first one canonically was the James Franco one. And it was actually great. After the 3rd instalment it already ended (with the best character Caesar already gone), but they keep making sequels for it cuz they made too much money.

[@BunchaNothin]

Not to mention how much going to the theatre sucks. Overpriced, broken speakers or damaged screens, and all the assholes that dont know to keep quiet.

[@nicholassullivan1239]

That's ALWAYS been the experience. It just means you're getting old 😊 Get a theater pass. They're like 20.00 and pay for themselves quickly. Hands down, theaters are STILL the definitive movie experience.

[@taylorslade961]

I just hate going to the theater. Its cold, its loud, I can't pause if I have to pee, the floor is sticky, and snacks require the equivalent of a college fund. So, why tf would I want to put myself through that for a movie that I can figure out the plot and twist of within the first 5 minutes?

[@nataschavisser573]

Exactly. Then it just drags through the familiar, predictable plot and character beats for 2 hours and all you can think about is how much money you spent on it and how much time you are waisting.

[@TwistVisuals]

I hope this is satire. Good movie theatres won't be sticky or loud. And you don't have to buy snacks to watch films. Just eat something before or after the film.

[@taylorslade961]

@@TwistVisuals Bootlicker

[@akshayde]

We are in the golden age of marketing. Art is dead, Brand is God

[@thedreammweaver6274]

I got a mint mobile ad on this, just… what can I say

[@koadtoad]

I think movie posters are in the same boat to be honest. I really dislike seeing current posters for new movies and noticing the movie star's face or name on there who most of the time, I don't care for. I like ones that the director themselves snip an image of the movie to show. I know it's flawed to do that, but most posters just look the same to me, or just copy what is popular at that time like an amateur graphic designer forgot his homework last minute.

[@AlexHider]

I disagree actually, I have never seen more interesting, cool looking and creative posters out there than I have in the last two decades. Before it would be hard to find even a few alt posters for a movie, and usually those would be only for international releases. It’s probably because digital promotion and releases no longer limit the marketing to a few safe inside the theater posters.

[@hvitekristesdod]

The box office performance is given too much importance. Physical media sales are ignored. I didn’t see Furiosa yet but I’m going to get the blu ray. I want good artists to do well. I don’t care about movie stars

[@Jimifan57]

I think that it's not so much the movie stars, but rather the power that has been handed over to those stars. Like you pointed out, the studios used to hold all the cards, but now you have certain mega-stars who agree to a movie, but then insist on rewriting the scripts, tailoring them to the image they want to continue projecting. The result of this is the same actors essentially playing themselves (or the manufactured version of themselves) in countless movies, regardless of the genre (for example Will Smith was pretty much the same guy in the Wild, Wild West as he was in Men in Black).

[@insidejoke3223]

Based on the video title, my first thought is those ads before movies nowadays where the big-name actors are thanking you for still watching movies in cinemas, feels so corporate. I also think of how some movies are marketed based on specific actors they got, as if the work that all the other departments did cannot stand on its own.

[@very_nervous133]

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT OUT LOUD

[@jessicabecho9474]

Challengers, despite having movie star Zendaya, was a breath of fresh air

[@ayanagreen5349]

I kinda disagree. I think that streaming killed cinema. Movie stars are the draw because we already know their names. Yeah, we see much of the same stuff, but that’s because there’s so many movies being produced that the best bet is to sell you nostalgia. Big studios are less likely to bet on smaller productions with unique stories and actors because they lose money if not successful. So they bank on the sure things, stuff and people you already know and like. These actors demand more money because the studios keep them relevant, not the audience. I’d say we actually need more, new movie stars. Because if you like an actor you may see them in smaller, cheaper and more unique productions. But people aren’t gonna leave home with countless streaming platforms unless they think they’re going to see something big. I don’t like this bloated and empty approach to movie making. But it’s happening in music as well. Once streaming can be had for a small fee monthly, giving you access to a countless stream of content, the whole system is devalued. Problem is, customers aren’t happy, artists are underpaid (a select few, overpaid and overvalued) and underrepresented, and studios are operating at a loss. None of this is sustainable. And it’ll be a while before it normalizes. When both studios customers aren’t willing to take a chance on a movie they aren’t familiar with this is the outcome.

[@mggardiner4066]

I’ve heard it said movie stars are dying for the same reason you said, streaming. They try to use them to counteract the desire to stay home and watch, but people aren’t showing up for big names alone anymore

[@ayanagreen5349]

@@mggardiner4066 because there aren’t any new big names. Everybody is in a retention competition. All the biggest stars are at least in their 40s.

[@minomushi_hitogata]

This is one of my favorite channels to find on here in a bit. It's nice to see a normal dude in a messy garage for a change.

[@BobRoigr]

Me personally the reason why, out of touch celebrities, are out of touch, is not because they did something, 30-40 years ago, that's because they're doing, the most popular mainstream thing to do. Because if you have to constantly advertise yourself, as famous, you're not famous. But that's just my opinion, on the topic.

[@donbongz4732]

Use comma's appropriately

[@enigmaj1494]

@@donbongz4732gotta agree, dude put at least one in every line, but never where the sentence naturally pauses (literally missed ‘Me personally,’).

[@donbongz4732]

@@enigmaj1494 look at us, the grammar dickheads.😂

[@angellover02171]

With great comma comes great responsibility ​@@donbongz4732

[@adammclauchlin7605]

The commas made this difficult to read but I agree with your point

[@onyx_mango]

take your time with the scripts sir !! we care more about your wellbeing !!! stay hydrated and thanks for another great video

[@JaneDoesMind]

Oh golly, Awkwafina.. I can't with her one tone acting.. very over it

[@maynardwayward12]

What a downfall for Adrien Brody, from becoming famous for winning an Oscar for The Pianist, to starring in loads of assembly line dreck.

[@TwistVisuals]

And now he made a comeback with The Brutalist. He already got a Golden Globe for the performance.

[@minomushi_hitogata]

It makes me SO sad that Neil Breen shot his last film entirely on green screen... but also so so happy

[@updogysl]

It's gonna be tough for some people to acknowledge that labor is part of the problem

[@abraxasjinx5207]

The Wrestler and Mickey Rourke are amazing. It's so close to satire that it is fine art, even if he's only reprising his role in Barfly- another wonderful work of art, due largely to the writer, Bukowski, who created the script. Everyone loves an underdog. That's (part of) why so many of the works of Philip K Dick translated so well to cinema: he portrays the Everyman, throughout time and space, regardless if it's cast with Schwarzenegger or Ford or Reeves.

Obligatory engagement farming for Mr. Spinks.

[@antoinedesgagnes9969]

The last time I went to watch a movie at the theatre was last spring to see Dune 2. So, there was the trailer for Furiosa with Anya Taylor-Joy...and then there was the little girl character who was modified to still be in the mother's womb while appearing as a grown-ass woman in some kind of astral project. Who was the woman? Anya Taylor-Joy. The same part 2 also introduced Léa Seydoux, Florence Pugh and Christopher Walken, who just looked like he accepted to cut on his afternoon nap to appear in the movie. David Lynch's Dune had a prestigious cast too, but that's partly retroactive. Pre-TNG Patrick Stewart didn't have the star power of post-MCU Josh Brolin. And a good part of this cast can be seen in some other Lynch movies or Twin Peaks. It's way more organic to see than having Jason Momoa + Josh Brolin + Zendaya.

[@ComicPower]

You had some great analysis here. In the 70s that new wave of writer/directors like spielberg, lucas, scoresce, copolla and others saved the movie industry. Now they are the old out of touch institutionlist they replaced 5 decades ago.

[@rondo712G]

I've heard Peter's was all set to direct the new Superman with Kevin Smith's script. His daughter had a school report on spiders that he thought was so cool that it inspired him to try to rewrite the Superman script to have the climax with a giant spider attacking the earth. He was let go from the project for some reason.

[@chrisnelson6663]

Now that I see the new intro, I am completely behind it! It fits your personality and projects. Also, really loved this one. I’m a sucker for anything film related though.

[@rubberface1424]

If everyone ate a rock a day there would be no Dwaynes left.

[@onyx_mango]

THE INTRO GOES HARRRD

[@view-camera-queen]

Curious for a part II that explores more of how the studios are contributing. The Bob Iger’s obviously don’t need yearly salaries as high as Iron Man made that one time. It’s all a gross amount but you know.

[@MrHornback]

I just found your channel, brother. I really enjoy your well thought out views and presentations. I've subscribed for the journey.

[@GavinWandersee]

Can’t lie John Wick 4 was an event for me

[@SarahPaceSings]

Just discovered you this morning. Youre awesome!

[@minomushi_hitogata]

Sorry for so many comments but screenwriting and film is my interest - I remember recently watching Ricky Stanicky with my dad and being able to guess the entire plot within the first five minutes without having heard of it which is BAD I AM NOT TALENTED. Then I remember an awkward scene at a bar where they were doing this like millennial coded bit before apologizing or something to Ricky and I just remember everything about it being awkward. The framing was static, the take was too long, the delivery was stilted, etc. and I remember thinking "isn't the red haired guy supposed to be a comedian?" and then I remembered they don't allow writers on set anymore and instead just shoot the script as is now in as few takes and go with what's best. After I watched that movie, I felt glad that I never ended up breaking into screenwriting or content creation in general. That is a genuinely depressing realization to have about your dream job lmao

[@minomushi_hitogata]

No shade to John Cena though, I love that man and always will unless he does something heinous which lends again to your argument of "stop being so accessible"

[@soronprfrbs]

I think you have a point with this one, but i cant help but feel like the actors are a symptom, not necessarily the cause. Also thank you for the phrase 'Geezer Teaser'! Subscribed!

[@smalltimer]

Just started the video but if I hear anything negative about Tom Cruise I will be filling a restraining order /j

[@harlandspinks]

You’re never gonna believe this…

[@SpaceOcelot4548]

Goddamn, I love your channel. It’s a goldmine of well made, funny & insightful essay videos that make me feel less alone about my fears for the future.

[@khaldub]

First time checking out your channel. This is a banger

[@TheChronozoan]

I really love your intro/outro

[@teethgrinder83]

Just want to say personally (and I'm sure more people have posted this already I've just not looked) but if it takes longer for you to do script because your not happy with it I've no doubt the majority of people who you will still come back. I understand that you kinda need to be consistent to grow the channel etc....but if you're anything like me then putting more pressure on yourself to get something done will make the outcome worse. Anyway interesting take on a subject that's been talked about a lot, it's always the machine itself I automatically think about being the problem with cinema but as you said, often the stars really don't help things by trying to be "relatable" and being on ADs. Also I LOVE the new intro, makes me want to go grab a horse and ride off into the sunset with a cigarillo hanging out my mouth haha looking forward to the next one already!

[@sluggyr]

One of the best channels I've found recently

[@Chiller11]

Interesting perspective. Here’s an algorithmic comment.

[@jackieanderson9597]

At least we can always count on another banger from Polesaw Productions. 🙏

[@blu3622]

That Adam Sandler movie, "The Do Over" is really funny, actually.

[@marsfeathers]

LETS GO HARLAND HEADS NEW BRANDING

[@joeyshuster8569]

anamorphic lens 😮

[@mauricio2456]

Movie theaters are made for the rambunctious visual spectacle and the loud noises in heavy speakers. Going to a theater to watch two dudes sitting at a table discussing the quality of home baked bread for 2 hours is big no. I can do that while I wash the dishes in my kitchen in a tiny cellphone screen and the experience wouldn't be worse for it.

[@TwistVisuals]

There's a middle ground where quieter movies still give a unique and great experience in the cinemas that can't be replicated on a cellphone or TV

[@mauricio2456]

@TwistVisuals Yes, I do absolutely agree with that. But is not the most but the few.

[@LatheOfChaos]

What games are ya playing?

[@harlandspinks]

I went back to Halo for the dopamine. But it's usually RDR2.

[@LatheOfChaos]

@@harlandspinks I got my dad into RDR2 and he is hooked. I haven’t gotten far in the main story but it’s my first time playing too. I hope you feel better. I also fall back on video games when I’m having a rough time. Thanks for the vids!

[@abraxasjinx5207]

This is the first time I've ever heard of "Armie Hammer", but were his parents illiterate, pranksters, or simply mean? Who names their kid after baking soda? Edit- wait- there's a celebrity named Aqua Fina? Is there someone named Coco Kolah as well?

[@lukefairbanks8622]

Yea Kavernacle had a similar video about the slopification of the industry. At this point i haven't seen a film in theaters in YEARS and don't plan to like ever lmao why pay 50 bucks when i can see it for free or super cheap at home

[@HENJAM48]

Passion of the Christ II - Jesus is back... and he's not happy.

[@gavinc.morrison1147]

wearing a good ol' San Francisco uniform i see

[@adcaptandumvulgus4252]

At least Nick Cage rarely disappoints still, eh?

[@Lucky11843]

You're right Harland, I am special! You are too!

[@TahtahmesDiary]

Will wasnt cucked, he was cheating long before and is the reason the marriage was open. He also admits his narcissism is why all his kids left home. I was with you on everything else, just wanted to make that clear, Jada didn't start that mess, it was him yet again.

[@EdrickBluebeard]

But... if it's not a title I already know telling a story I've already heard by a guy pretending to be an actor playing himself... will it even be Fun!!![copywrite of The Mouse That Shall Not Be Named]?

[@tumppuman]

I feel you're concentrating on wrong thing.... Movie studios in collaboration with mass audiences ruined American cinema! Other world cinema is just fine. American film industry is living under a new studio system only with far less studios than back in the old system (earlier part of 1900's). Massive studio mergers have basically left america only with Disney and Warner Brothers. So again, studios and their homogenizing all of their movies are ruining cinema. Not many movie star actually want to be typecast. They play in the movies movie studios finance. And they finance the same stuff over and over again. Also like Tarantino said, there is very few movie stars left. Churning countless Marvel roles doesnt make you a movie star. That makes you that guy/women who played that superhero in that franchise. Movie stars salary still makes more sense than the millions paid to studio execs. final edit. OMG! 🤦‍♂Actor salaries arent killing the mid-budget movies! Studios have been doing that by funneling most the production money to massive productions where the actor salaries are just a minor cost of the overall budget. Studios want to make billions per movie and in their heads mid-budget movies dont do that. Spectacle does.

[@Drayygorr]

Thank you for the video

[@toasterenthusiast8023]

I like the video but I think we should stop using the word narcissist to mean egocentric because of the harm it is doing to people with Narcissistic personality disorder who have been especially demonized recently due to the way pop psychology has portrayed it.

[@AG-hx6qn]

A lot of them do act like demons, sadly due to the severity it can be.

[@toasterenthusiast8023]

@@AG-hx6qn Your not engaging with the point I made. Even if your claim was true we shouldn't be using a word for a mental disorder as a stand in for a bad or egocentric person because that demonizes an entire community and no community is a monolith. Also please try and reflect on your words, saying that a lot of a marginalized group act like demons as a rebuttal to a call to be kind to that group is pretty gross. Finally please try and consider where this idea comes from. Have you met a lot of people with NPD or do you just hear people talk about how they are evil and I don't mean people you think have NPD I mean people you actually know for certain have it.

[@ennote91]

Dude your video's are sweet

[@mattstuckintime]

Thank you daddy Harland!

[@jrojala]

*chicken-eating interview show*

[@ARTSCHOOLACID]

Speaking facts! Great job

[@lithia481]

haha most of the 'absolute trash' films at 4:53 have been mst3kified

[@adcaptandumvulgus4252]

White door is lonely.

[@adcaptandumvulgus4252]

Give Mr Plinkets door back please.

[@angelagraves865]

Thank you!! And also, get out of my brain 😄✌🏽🤘🏽🖖🏽

[@maidingermany]

Stop complaining about your 50 Stars playing in every movie and always the same character, in Germany we have 5.

[@JaneDoesMind]

😂

[@shardis]

I agree with you entirely, but I am hugely excited for Beatlejuice beatllejuice.

[@JaneDoesMind]

Me too, it actually looks good

[@sheevinopalpatino4782]

Mosfilm > Hollywood

[@superweirdpodcast5075]

Commenting because I was told to.

[@AlexHider]

Pole saw productions ‼️

[@JuiciferPandoraRex]

*vanishes*

[@butterfish-g9f]

I feel the same way about movies for the most part. I do understand the attempt to reboot The Wolfman and Dracula again though. Universal is about to build a big ass theme park extension that's devoted to their classic movie monsters, so they are locked in on trying to make those monsters have a cinema comeback. Although, I would prefer if they tried Frankenstein's monster. You have a lot of tech bro freaks who fantasize immortality but would want to test all the means on poor/disabled people, and a lot of hyper conservatives who are obsessed with complete control of people they deem less than them, so you could make a messed up variation of Frankenstein's monster based on a combination of those themes alone. I would actually go to cinemas more often if they chose more experimental stories and actors no one's heard of that are very good. Especially actors that look more ordinary and less dolled up. I mean, I started getting into local theater productions again for those exact reasons. Also, design movie theaters where half of the rooms are for watching movies quietly and half the theaters are for riffing and active audience participation. Pretty much the only movie going experiences I bother with anymore are horror movies and I make a point to only go to theaters where I know the audience is very chatty. That combination has always been some of my best movie going experiences.

[@ShesBearynice]

Capitalism is the problem. We wouldn’t have these arrogant people without that “money over everything” mentality.

[@DBLRxyz]

Let people post what they want without moaning about it lol. Being a celebrity doesn’t mean you can’t do normal shit anymore.

[@jrojala]

Not public discourse on public forums!

[@DBLRxyz]

@@jrojalaDude he’s actively seeking out celebrity posts and saying they shouldn’t post at all lmao loser shit.

[@DBLRxyz]

@@jrojala Dude he literally seeks out celebrity posts then says they shouldn’t be posting. That’s loser shit.