Veteran Sherman S/Patton/Lynx - Wheel Settings & Suspension Setup

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00:00 - Start
00:28 - Screen & Button Overview
01:07 - Wheel Settings
01:29 - Pedal Mode
01:41 - Pedal Angle Adjust
02:18 - Overspeed Tiltback
02:55 - PWM Tiltback
03:27 - Overspeed Alarm
03:50 - Screen Brightness
04:03 - Wheel Calibration
04:14 - Sleep Mode
04:19 - MPH/KPH
04:29 - Voltage Calibration
04:41 - Low Battery Mode
05:06 - High Speed Mode
05:17 - Angle Cutoff
05:40 - Suspension Settings
06:25 - Spring Preload
07:28 - Rebound Dampening
08:20 - Compression Dampening
08:46 - Example - Min Compression Dampening
09:17 - Example - Max Compression Dampening
09:46 - Conclusion

[@vncflw9514]

BEST GUIDE PERIOD!!! Thank you

[@Duskys_Life]

Thanks for the in-depth info.

[@Silver.Leaves]

Thank you very much for this great and comprehensive guide, helped a great deal to set my lynx

[@2cells1pack]

Glad it helped!

[@brainflowvideos]

This is gold! Thanks for this guys. Suuuuper helpful 💙

[@kaygee1623]

Thanks for the video.

[@xxxceazer1000]

VERY INFORMATIVE! Just purchased one and THIS helps alot. THANK YOU🙏🏾

[@bookmark2846]

Thank you. Used this guide for my Lynx.

[@jamesChisena]

Really like the channel so far. Every video has been really helpful and informative!

[@2cells1pack]

Thanks!

[@patrickrobert9001]

Thank you! I was waiting for this!

[@2cells1pack]

I'm happy it's useful for you

[@stealtherider3008]

Good video!

[@1forfun]

Excellent video with very clear instructions. Thank you!!

[@2cells1pack]

Glad it was helpful!

[@TheMoboarder]

Awesome 👏 this will really help when mine arrives! ☮️

[@TheMoboarder]

Got to say thank you again! I rewatched this after 2 days of riding my new Patton. Super helpful! ❤

[@kennethc9786]

Thank you!

[@dp1nzon]

Perfecto!!! Gracias 2cell1pack couple!!! Thanks for answering my previous video question.... This was clearly explained with test results in the end

[@2cells1pack]

No problem 😁

[@Simonisms]

Thanks so for making this video Super helpful information (I just got my Patton yesterday😊)

[@2cells1pack]

Glad it was helpful!

[@oldretireddude]

Thank You!

[@9electromatic]

thanks 4 the vid n info

[@mr_wrongway]

Awesome vidz! Keep it up!

[@2cells1pack]

Thanks !

[@FinnBjerke]

As always very helpfull info. Thank you mate appreciated.

[@2cells1pack]

No problem 👍

[@ninja636king]

Thank you so much. I get my Sherman s very soon.

[@2cells1pack]

Good choice!

[@tristan5740]

Thank you 🙏. I just got my Patton and this is incredibly helpful!!! Just wish I had watched this and adjusted my angular cut out before I let a pro ride my wheel and crash due to taking an aggressive high speed corner and cutting out on him.

[@2cells1pack]

Yeah. Angle cut out and speed alarms are #1 first thing to adjust

[@cleverchimp]

Thank you for this. I find the Patton interface extremely opaque, and the printed manual no help cracking it. Was in despair until I watched this, several times, scrolling back over and over. Love the brutalist looks of the wheel; hate the brutalist menu system.

[@Onelastrun]

It's so cool u have this instructional video on how to operate the screen! I doubt it comes with an instruction booklet explaining all this. I was just thinking on a ss review that I watched the other day is how is someone s"pose to know how to operate the menu! Thanks for the video! Yall are the best! It would be cool to see a begode suspension master class though. Seeing how all there suspension wheels use the same style. Or at appears that way anyways. Like how to upgrade, and a Lil explaining on what the little grub screws are on the side of the slider casings! See so much on fb ppl asking about those screws and ppl saying that it is easy to over tighten and mess up some type of brass ring inside? Thanks again! And I'm about to go out and get the tools for my t4 today! All thanks to you two! And excellent camera angles!

[@2cells1pack]

I could definitely make a video on that. Haha I make all the boring technical videos that others don't want to make.

[@Onelastrun]

@@2cells1pack awesome!

[@atsuniverse469]

Thanx!!! You they should have a picture of you guys. What’s the difference between left and right battery charges will it have different readings charging now going to stop at 95 % and plug into other part 😋

[@caninphx]

Wish leaperkim would just make a menu system that made sense! Your video clears that up! Thanks.

[@2cells1pack]

At least they have one !!! Baby steps

[@oliverer3]

As far as minimal button menu systems go this is among the better I've seen.

[@darioivicek5473]

very helpfull, thank you. Can you please help me and reveal how to reset daily km ?

[@JaviVisible]

Gracias por el video

[@2cells1pack]

No problem

[@ketowolf]

That was very useful, thanks a lot guys! :) Side question, where did you get those fluorescent reflectors on the front of the Patton?

[@2cells1pack]

We got them from Ali express

[@revolutionaries007]

Great video guys, do u have a link to that reflective tape on the front of the patton ... that is really nice

[@2cells1pack]

Those stickers do add a touch to the wheel. When we got our Patton, it came with those reflective stickers, so we don't have a link to them.

[@ulysses3183]

Thanks for this video! The manual did not explain a lot. Is there anyway to lock the wheel, say if you were away from it for a short while?

[@2cells1pack]

Technically - you can put it into transport mode?

[@milordas]

need manual of advanced menu settings - when you enter the settings, keep pressing button for another 3 sec

[@fqqures1019]

Great video question at what speed is it good to turn on high speed mode If I’m going to cruise between 30-40mph should I have on high speed mode

[@user-ke9yk5qp3u]

Good question, I just wonder if it has to do with actually going fast or does it have something to do with torque and how quickly it accelerates even at lower speeds

[@darkstar4494]

super helpful! is the preload is adjusted by turning the large nut at the bottom or the smaller golden nut at the top? how does adjusting compression damping on the right side affect the left shock?

[@2cells1pack]

The preload adjustment is the golden knot at the top of the wheel. Adjusting compression on one side only affects compression dampening. The other side is rebound dampening

[@darkstar4494]

@@2cells1pack thanks, preload is the smaller golden nut at the top! My question is more about how it works.. the shocks seems to be independent. I don’t understand how adjusting something on one side can affect the other side. I understand that each side has a different adjustment (each of which affects both sides)

[@2cells1pack]

It doesn't affect the other side. This was the torsion concern as the one shock does all of the compression dampening

[@darkstar4494]

@@2cells1pack oh!!! Yeah ok that makes more sense and torsion is my immediate concern also lol avoiding extreme values on either side is better in that case.. if I’m worried about the frame flexing

[@nicholasmilton1902]

If possible one day, a similar video for V13 would be awesome as many people still don't know how to correctly use the shock pump and adjust the dampening/rebound.

[@2cells1pack]

Hmm I think AlienRides has a video already ?

[@mynameisMelt]

@@2cells1pack Yeah but, we want you to be our trusted, go to guy. You speak well.

[@2cells1pack]

maybe in the future. for now - i'd rather focus on videos that will provide the most value to the community.

[@KevinRedmondWA]

For the v13, just randomly twist the suspension knobs and hope for the best. 😂😂😂

[@nicholasmilton1902]

@@KevinRedmondWA Does the V11 have adjustments? Looks like the Adventure will

[@milordas]

Full suspension preload, does it affects spring stiffness to harder, or makes suspension travel distance shorter/longer, or just makes pedals higher/lower from the ground? As i found information that more heavy persons should set preload to clockwise as lighter persons should counter clockwise preload screw.

[@2cells1pack]

Spring stiffness - harder yes suspension travel -> depends if it would bottom out the spring or not - which would require me to disassemble a unit and see inside It would also make your pedals higher from the ground potentially.

[@travsformation1]

Thanks for this! I'm expecting my Patton soon and this is super helpful for navigator LK's confusing settings menu 🙈🤣 BTW, when you did the demonstration at the end, you had preload set to minimum, didn't you? Wouldn't increasing the preload make it less likely to bottom out?

[@2cells1pack]

Yes increasing preload will help a little with bottoming out, but after adjusting it we still had issues. Therefore we reverted it before selling it to the next owner.

[@travsformation1]

@@2cells1pack Right. So if preload doesn't help all that much.... I was going to go for the 62 lb version but maybe the 66 lb would be better. I'm 75-80 kg (165-175 lb) fully geared and will be using this wheel for trail riding (nothing crazy Chooch-style, no jumps, but mostly off-road use), it's probably better to get the 66lb suspension right? (And set it up for very little preload)

[@2cells1pack]

If you're 175lb, i would probably go with the 66lb. Keep in mind the springs will also soften a little with time as they get broken in.

[@travsformation1]

@@2cells1pack Thanks a ton! 🙌

[@MC-ny7iw]

Guys, great video as usual. I saw there is 70lb suspension, as a heavy user I think I might go for that one, any update on this since you uploaded the video? Thanks!

[@2cells1pack]

For the Patton, best to go heavier suspension

[@Jay2thaC2011]

Im 270lbs, just got my patton a week ago. With the 70lbs suspension. And its buttery!!

[@michaeldavidson3349]

Thank you for the video. How much sag do each of you get with the 62lb and the 66lb?

[@michaeldavidson3349]

Loving your channel by the way!

[@2cells1pack]

Thanks! We both get around 35% sag

[@brianonwheels]

im 130lbs, would you recommend the 62 or 66lb shocks? currently preordered a 58 lb shock but after seeing you guy's review, I'm looking to bumping that suspension up.

[@2cells1pack]

66lb if you do trail riding

[@hogpitnyc266]

How much do you weigh? I'm 207 and just bought the 62 lbs shock in the lynx. But, strictly street riding and I don't go off curbs.

[@jojomuaythai8076]

Hello, I'm hoping for an update to adjust the tilt back of my Sherman S like the Patton. Unfortunately the speed goes from 58.2 km/h to over 200. I would like to adjust the tilt back to 70 or 80 km/h but it is not possible at the moment.Wiil there be an update? Thanks

[@2cells1pack]

Not sure, this is on LeaperKim. They like to do their tiltback in this way unfortunately. Hopefully they can release a well functioning app that will allow you to tweak settings faster too.

[@GasperLi-df8pp]

Hello, appreciate the guide. I noticed my voltage setting is at 122.6 that’s different from yours. Should I change it? What’s the default?

[@2cells1pack]

Hi, I'm not sure why the settings are different, but they are set that way from factory so I wouldn't change it. I'd have to spend more time with the device to figure out the reasons for the difference. (I didn't have enough time fiddling with the device to answer your questions fully)

[@niekonesakyki]

It is just showing current voltage you at

[@ElectricunicyclesUK]

how are you guys measuring your sag? from the pedals height if some other way

[@2cells1pack]

I measured it from the front bumper. Found the pedals hard to measure as slight tilt results in bad measurements

[@cooperarmstrong4493]

This video is amazing, my dum dum head took a bit to get the difference between compression dampening and rebound dempening but i get it know.... i think

[@2cells1pack]

Damping** as someone had corrected me

[@guimarotta]

We need an update of this settings......

[@2cells1pack]

Has there been a lot of changes ?

[@brianonwheels]

Hi I jsut got my 62lb suspension patton and felt that the suspension is a bit stiff, I'm already cracked the red and blue counterclockwise to the max. I don't think you showed how to decrease the preload? do i need a wrench for that? (instead of the flathead screwdriver which i used for the dampening adjustment)

[@2cells1pack]

The preload is the golden part (adjustable wrench). They come stock with minimum preload, however I would continue riding it as the suspension does soften out over time with use.

[@brianonwheels]

Thank you! any advice on of the seated riding|? I can't seem to figure it out. Hoping that aftermarket seats get published that make it easier for seated riding

[@2cells1pack]

@@brianonwheels There is an aftermarket ergonomic sides + seat that's already out. Made by Xiaorong Su

[@dp1nzon]

Can you shed some light where you got your power pads?

[@2cells1pack]

Here's the link: a.aliexpress.com/_mtrS90C

[@dagainsta6253]

Can you break down the calibration part a bit more. Go into depth w it... I de calibrated mines 😢

[@2cells1pack]

When you say calibration, do you mean wheel angle ?

[@igorgoga7985]

can you explain pulse with modulation pedal tilt-back, pls

[@2cells1pack]

PWM / Safety Margin are used interchangeably, however they refer to the "headroom" one has when doing higher speeds. A good safety margin is 70-80%. If you get to 70-80% of wheel's usable power - I tell people to turn on the tiltback so that they have 2 forms of safety: beeps & physical tiltback.

[@igorgoga7985]

@@2cells1pack fundamentally for a 100 kg guy, would you recommend serman s, pls. I ride a regular sherman

[@BigBoss-gb4cx]

So what's max preload means? Is it for heaver people or lighter people?

[@2cells1pack]

Max preload is for heavier people.

[@BigBoss-gb4cx]

@@2cells1pack i see.... But even for smaller people is there any reason to lower the preload? What's the correct setting or how should you know what to set?

[@2cells1pack]

if the preload is too high for the rider, it'll feel very stiff

[@milordas]

whats your weight without equip?

[@2cells1pack]

Albert - 240lb. Christine - 95lbs

[@richsam287]

I don't think preload is accurately portrayed, but rest looks spot on.

[@2cells1pack]

How would you describe preload?

[@richsam287]

@@2cells1pack Preload is how you adjust sag with rider weight, also is how you make it harder to bottom out if you are a heavy rider. Preload is a standard term and not unique to EUCs

[@2cells1pack]

@@richsam287 I think sitting position and sag are fairly similar in what I mean. Next time I'll use sag.

[@richsam287]

@@2cells1pack but also when you showed how easy to bottom out, I feel preload is your primary tool to prevent bottoming out and compression dampening should be secondary to tweak the feel.

[@BigBoss-gb4cx]

@@richsam287 So what's the right setting for heaver people? Max preload or minimal?

[@KaizenOz]

Only compression was maxed when you were bottoming out?

[@2cells1pack]

Only compression yes

[@KaizenOz]

@@2cells1pack Do you think Leaperkim will offer a stronger spring than the 66lbs? Since its still bottoming out

[@2cells1pack]

@@KaizenOz I wish for it, but I won't hold my breath.

[@KaizenOz]

@@2cells1pack custom made? ;)

[@sherryandpeter]

I noticed that the spring pre-load was set to the preload you would use with the lightest person (max sag). Does setting the preload to have a minimum amount of sag reduce the bottoming significantly?

[@FabienTHALGOTT]

Why didn’t you increase the preload at the end of the video? That would certainly decrease the chances of bottoming out. Only playing with the clicks is only part of the solution

[@RonnieRides]

Pre-load does not decrease chance of bottoming out, what pre-load does is reduce sag and increase the amount of force it takes to get the suspension moving, it does not change the spring rate, preferably you wan't no pre-load as it will make small bump compliance worse

[@FabienTHALGOTT]

@@RonnieRides ok thanks for the explanation. Here’s to hoping stronger options than 66 lbs are eventually offered.

[@2cells1pack]

Thanks for the explanation ! Yeah, you can do a lot of settings to bandaid the problem. But the problem is the spring is too soft.

[@zyggimantasvalliukas3008]

@@2cells1pack I guess its alright for trails and bumps, its not a jumping wheel anyway. But yeah, 90kg+ person should have a stiffer spring option.

[@JimNilzon]

Riding my new Patton. Has anyone experienced this clonking noise? Started up at about 50 miles. Experienced rider; no drops or falls. Here's a clip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpjFqXatbMZ7qbc

[@2cells1pack]

Sounds like loose bolts. I would get it checked