MBMBAM - Horse Math

The Horse Math segment from episode 385 of My Brother My Brother and Me

[@erwinthomas3667]

"Three grown men become increasingly afraid of the power contained within two horses"

[@Cree8Ball]

As the ten commandments say, "Every Action Had an Equal and Opposite Reaction, Except two Horses"

[@lucystarlight8887]

As the Great Law says

[@anthonyb4479]

“Or is that not how any of this works” Narrator: *That was the last time griffin would be right for a while*

[@douglasphillips5870]

"If I had a lever long enough, and two horses who were best friends, I could move the earth" Archimedes

[@calebstuder448]

yyyup

[@2goblinsinatrenchcoat]

This comment is severely underrated

[@thomaspalazzolo5902]

Oh my god. This explains why moving a couch with friends is easier than with strangers.

[@calebduarte5255]

....what strangers are you pulling couches around with?

[@TheoV1998]

@@calebduarte5255 I've had to do that several times all random incidents

[@Hey_Jamie]

Because you’re a horse?

[@user-dx1es9ty9o]

your brain. is huge

[@spehizle]

I can feel physics teachers the world over having a stroke listening to these beautiful boys.

[@georgeparkins777]

And horse people

[@basilisks]

I’m having a stroke but it’s unrelated to this biz

[@FirstGameFreak1000]

Me who has worked as both an aerospace engineer and a wrangler

[@mintchew2757]

Holy shit. Friendship really IS magic

[@dottyContrarian]

my BIG pony

[@barakroach8174]

Here are two exceptional comments

[@pluutonius]

When they're describing horse drama? That's exactly what it's like. Horses date + won't go anywhere without their current partner (even if they've been desexed),) have besties that they like to ride next to + get possessive over (bite other horses that get too close), and get one sided crushes they throw tantrums over if their rider doesn't indulge them in a trot next to an uninterested (and often already taken) horsey

[@Vee_Sheep]

oh god... _Horse Incels_

[@leftovernoise]

@@Vee_Sheep Horscel

[@BestBetterBestest]

@@Vee_Sheep Why won't she sleep with me? I let her eat my hay! All horsefoids are the same

[@pepitodiablo912]

THIS CONCEPT IS SO SILLY I NEVER KNEW HORSES HAD DRAMA AND CRUSHES

[@nerveagent1905]

WHAT

[@michaelroberts9587]

Horses are the real bond engine from TAZ

[@nicestpancake]

Taako: So uh, what's inside that bad boy anyways, kemosabe? Davenport Opens A Panel, Revealing Internal Organs, Particularly of the Horse Variety (Which Magnus Could Tell With His Vehicle Proficiency); Horsepower

[@KayGee_yt]

"400 horse power would destroy the galaxy"

[@ikea00941]

okay not to be that person but i looked up the average horse weight which is 840-2,200 pounds, to make math easier i chose the median (1,520). now there are varying horse trailer weighs depending on material and amount of horse it carries, a 24' gooseneck trailer which carries 6 horses weighs 4,400 lbs. added each horses weight (multiplied by 6) equals up to 13,520. as justin says at approximately 4:23, the average horse can carry only 8,000 pounds but 2 horses together can carry 24,000 pounds. therefore, 2 stock horses can carry a horse trailer full of 6 average horses easily. tldr; 6 horse trailer w/horses inside only weighs 13,520 pounds, which is only around 1/2 of the weight a horse can pull up to. edit: typos

[@sorio99]

Okay, but this isn’t any less buckwild. If we use that “partners” figure of 32,000 pounds, then that means two stock horses who are solid partners can easily pull a completely full horse trailer without expending even half of their potential. What?! You could connect two trailers together, and if those horses were tight as fuck, they could just be like “oh yeah, sure we can handle that”. WHAT?!

[@GucciGoosing]

@@sorio99 I worked on a ranch with draft horses (they were extremely good friends/brothers) and a pair would comfortably pull trailers with six cows in them (although it's not something that would happen often). These cows are a lot heavier than an average riding horse, so I buy that a pair of draft horses could pull 12 average American riding type horses. But keep in mind that Draft Horses are way bigger and heavier than the riding style horses you are probably imagining. So the numbers would change if you wanted to talk about them pulling their peers. First you'd need different trailers usually -I'm not sure how many extra horses that would count as, but for this type of math I'd say each Draft Horse probably weighs about 2 of the horses most people would be imagining.

[@zander...k.7968]

"Minus two for the wheels!!"

[@thephoenixsystem6765]

Denise Mueller-Korenek set a bicycle land speed record of 183mph. If we develop a bicycle for two horses, we'd at least break the sound barrier

[@TheGazingHeart]

once rode on a huge ass boat that was pulled by two big ass musclular horses on the grass on either side of the chanel... i sometimes forget these three are city boys but "'draft horse'- i have no idea what that means" really highlighted that

[@michaelaharris3190]

“Twenty-Neigh-teen” was right there

[@jarroddobben]

That first Google was perhaps the most important in Justin's comedy career

[@adianycartagena5969]

I need a compilation of all horse-related mbmbam bits😂

[@cybarch]

"does the term 'horsepower' refer to the amount of joules of force required" remains the most irksome thing Griffin has ever said imo

[@Crlarl]

Yup. Knowledge is a curse.

[@mintchew2757]

Newtons

[@Crlarl]

@Elle Fakename Horsepower is a unit of power equal to 745.7 Watts. Joules is a measure of energy. Force is often measured in Newtons or pounds. The frustrating bit is that Griffin used those terms interchangeably.

[@justsomeguy1408]

The real question is how much can two best friend centaurs pull and how does this affect the war between humans and centaurs.

[@ChanceTheBrony]

So we have determined that two horses who are friends can pull 8000 pounds more weight. The average speed of a horse-drawn carriage is about 8-10 MPH. In physics, Power is determined by Force times Velocity (which is just speed plus a direction). Plugging these numbers into a kinetic energy calculator, we can determine that this produces 23205 to 36259 Joules of energy. Sources say that a horse can be comfortable traveling for about 8 hours at a time, and Power is equal to energy over time. Plugging these number into a Power calculator reveals that in scientific terms, the Power of Friendship is about 0.806 to 1.259 Watts

[@juliac2170]

How on EARTH does Griffin come up with the names for the anonymous Yahoos

[@calebduarte5255]

This is a question I’ve had for so very long. It almost sounds like he’s choosing from a...prepared list or something?

[@ZorbGorgBorg]

This one was a call back to earlier in the show (the soundboard clip)

[@arcaii1117]

the real horsepower was the friends we made along the way

[@nora_adora]

every couple of millennia , humanity discovers horses

[@keaton5101]

now, how much can two horses bench-press?

[@sorio99]

Depends on how good a friend they are with their spotter.

[@deProfundisAdAstra]

sorio99 and how much horse weigh

[@williamhood7548]

4640lbs. I realize it is not a direct 1-1 parallel, walking to pushing, but a horse carries 58% of its weight on its front legs. So, assuming its only going to use 2 legs, and the fore-legs count as the "arms..." 4640lbs.

[@REDACTEDbox]

no wonder MLP’s motto was “friendship is magic” because can you IMAGINE what you could do with SIX HORSES that are FRIENDS??? WORKING TOGETHER??? Plus given the fact that half of them have wings, which means horse stacking for minimal space??? That IS magic dude

[@aeipathy_live]

Alright, hear me out... *Horse Jets.*

[@davemustang8173]

"Why are we fucking with cars when we have horses?" Everyone in 1886: "Exactly!"

[@alldayagain]

Oh my God I'm glad I didn't take Horse Math in college

[@shadycactus6146]

my little fucking brutal draft horse: friendship is magic

[@TaakosGoodOutHere]

The 2 best friend horses are named Mike and Darlene

[@fraidnaught9067]

You can always find me...in the draft.

[@dirgenmeister4018]

but wait, the boys calculation is wrong (of course). they need to overcome friction, which is what the wheels do by creating static friction instead of sliding friction. but the horses arent pulling the trailer horses purely upwards, in the opposite direction of their weight. theyre moving them sideways, and as such the force required to move the trailer will be less than the total weight of the trailer and the horses

[@shawnaeatscats]

so their calculation would have been closer to "with wheels?"

[@matthewhearn9910]

Very good protest song namedrop there by Juice.

[@CossackGene]

Me listening to the question: the answer is a team of two Belgians. The answer the bros came up with using Google and math: a team of two Belgians that are best friends

[@scrundler6335]

Unrelated to this but I'm tired and I accidentally read the title as horse meth..

[@severignbuchanan2040]

dude that shit will fuck you UP. Like, awake for weeks, don't try it.

[@alexw.7097]

These guys talk about horses A LOT for people who obviously know nothing about horses XD

[@hotanubis3661]

nobody watches these boys for accurate math lmfao some of y’all really are the annoying tweets they talk about getting

[@LWNOWAY]

Now guys we have to keep in mind that horses may be more powerful than cars but they are WAY slower. Sure, two prancin’ partners could pull a trailer full of horses but it would take 2-3x the amount of time that a Ford Ram Silverado could do it

[@KrytenKoro]

If it has wheels, you need 4 horses to pull 6 horses

[@LordMoogi]

‘That’s my wife, Derek!’

[@josephastier7421]

The real horsepower is the power of family.

[@kristenstacey5347]

2020- Stronger Together... that happened for real.

[@pichu9546]

Ok i hate to put the boys down but cars' capacity far outranks that of horses Some new models of dodge rams can pull up to 33,000lbs. Thats 1000 over what 2 horses with a friendship multiplier can pull. Two horses that only just met can pull 1.5x their typical capacity each (24,000÷16,000=1.5). If two cars received this same bonus, they could haul 99,000 pounds of weight, equal to over 60 horses. But what if those cars were friends? If two cars knew each other well, then they would receive, similar to the horses, a 2x multiplier (32,000÷16,000=2). This would allow 2 car lovers to pull 132,000lbs. Thats 412.5% of what 2 horses could pull, equal to the weight of 82 and a half horses. Point in case if two horses could pull the galaxy then two dodge rams could pull the universe.

[@williamhood7548]

A heavy work horse requires 138,072 Kilojoules a day. (33000 calories) A single gallon (Ew. Imperial.) of gas contains 131,760 Kilojoules. The average American fuel efficency is about 25mpg. Which means; It will take your car (And this is an AVERAGE car, not a work truck) about a half hour at the speed limit to use the entirety of a horses daily consumption. Also, cars arent living things. 2 cars wont "Get to know each other," in the workplace and learn to subconsciously match each others paces. I can tell you like cars. I like math.

[@williamhood7548]

Also, no. 99,000 is not over 60 horses. It would take 13 horses to pull that load. Man... check yer numbers.

[@pichu9546]

@@williamhood7548 man im gay i hate cars and math if your gasoline has that much energy then why not feed it to the horses so they go super fast

[@pichu9546]

@@williamhood7548 also i meant that 99000 is the weight of 65 horses, not what 65 horses could pull

[@DanThibodeau1]

What if the Dodge Rams are best friends?

[@mcrfan1000000]

I read the title as Horse Meth and am now slightly disappointed

[@scootinand]

Paul Stanley?!?!?

[@williamhood7548]

Your math is infuriating me... Ive never been so upset about horses. Firstly; If one horse can pull (whatever)4000lbs, and two horses can pull 12000lbs (3 times as much) that does NOT mean every added horse will triple their towing ability. It means every time you double the number of towing horses, it triples their towing ability. One horse - 4000 two horses 12000 four horses 36000 eight horses 108000 It is also worth noting that two living creatures falling in to a more effective work rhythm given sufficent time and familiarity is not, "magically getting stronger." I dont know why Im bothering to do this. Wait... yes I do. Im enjoying the challenge; A typical 4 horse trailer weighs between 4000 and 8000lbs. They can obviously hold four horses. Horses tend to weigh between 400kg (880lbs) to 1000kg (2200lbs) Draft horses can pull up to 8000lbs Assuming the mid points of 6000lbs for a trailer, and 1500lbs for a horse; Well, that actually worked out easy enough to do in my head. A single horse can pull a trailer with another horse in it. ((4*1500)+6000)/8000 = 1.5 It would take one and a half horses to pull a 4 horse trailer full of horses. Now lets get weird; A 4 horse trailer is 7'8" by 6'8" by 7'6" which gives it a volume of 108557.2022m^3 (One hundred eight thousand five hundred fifty seven cubic meters) the volume of a horse is approximately 0.5m^3 (1000lb horse) So, if you caulked the edges and tarped the horse-seeing-outie-bits, you could fit 217114.4045 blended horses in a 4 horse trailer. Which would weigh about 217,114,404.48lbs. Assuming these horses are simply casual work-buddies, and not ride-or-die yet, it would take 27,140 horses to pull a 4 horse trailer full of blended horse. (And no. I did not factor in the "2 horses makes 3 horses worth of pulling," bit. Its too complicated, Ive been working on this too long already, and I assume there to likely be diminishing returns on that math anyway. What with inertia and whatnot.) TL;DR - I spent a lot of time doing this math. I even blended up horses. Go back and read it.

[@incavoplaylists6874]

The insane thing is the answer is 2, tops.

[@williamhood7548]

Unless you blended them. You can fit over 200,000 blended horses in a typical 4 horse trailer, which would take just over 27,000 horses (to pull). ;)

[@takura13]

My google home says 2000lbs. max