VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 161

[@scottmanley]

There's one really important thing that wasn't mentioned about The Last Starfighter - there is no texture or normal mapping which is why they had so many polygons. To be clear texture mapped planets had been done for the Voyager mission CGI which predates this, but they didn't use it for the movie it was almost all flat shaded polygons, these days you would add lots of surface detail with an image mapped onto the surface, but they just had to keep adding polygons to get the detail. The Gunstar was the hero model so it had something like 300,000 polygons, and in one scene there's 10 of them in a hangar, which held the record for the most complex CGI scene rendered for a long time. They also developed some software to animate the engine exhausts automatically in response to the ship's motion, which saved them a lot of time.

[@bzqp2]

Huh, that random YT comment guy must know a lot about spaceships.

[@frog5mack]

I got confused and thought my youtube comments must not have refreshed between videos, thanks Scott, fly safe.

[@AngryEwok]

Fun fact: The Last Starfighter CGI was rendered in resolution close to modern 5K to fill each grain on 35mm film. Each frame was rendered as 32bit image stored in RAM, it was imedietly photographed at film using camera and custom 5K monitor, and after that rendered image was deleted. They used this method since early 1970s

[@marcbritten3681]

That fact was fun.

[@marekriebmann1495]

As far as I'm concerned they used this very method for the CGI space ship in 'Flight of the navigator', the first ever CG morph done in a movie.

[@akunekochan]

that's insane

[@petergerdes1094]

Still not going to reach the grain size limit I don't think.

[@Marc_Fuchs_1985]

CGI in 5K and 32bit in 1984...... I can't........ Now we'd need to know, how long one of those frames rendered, and how much processing power that huge chunk of a computer had for that.

[@fusionaddict]

16:55 “They had a guy who could draw the spaceship…” That “guy” was Ron Cobb, one of the most legendary movie conceptual artists of the latter 20th century, who worked on Conan the Barbarian, Alien, Aliens, and Blade Runner (and Star Wars, and Back to the Future…thanks to the commenters below for the reminder!). Pretty much every piece of tech in Aliens and Blade Runner was designed by either him or Syd Mead.

[@RadioNocturnus]

oh wow what a resume, talk about influential visuals. had no idea, very much appreciate this info !

[@santiagocamino9324]

Ron also worked on the designs of Back to the Future

[@DullBull]

And he worked on a little movie called "Star Wars". Later he made a video game with his designs and concept similar to the cantina scene called "The Space Bar".

[@bajau7713]

That sequence is absolutely insane. Shows the genius of creatives back then. I felt stupid watching hahaha.

[@caddywampa6602]

I came here to say this😁 Recognized him instantly.

[@tankgrrl]

16:58 "they had a guy who could draw the spaceship" That's not just a guy. That's Ron Cobb! Designer of the Nostromo, Semiotic Standard glyphs that people still mimic today, the BTTF DeLorean, etc. He's a legend.

[@badcornflakes6374]

I always thought the Nostromo looked sick.

[@BenjaminRayner]

Great to see your appreciation for Slughorn's transformation! It’s one of the shots I had the pleasure of contributing to back in the day at RSP. I was one of the newer teammates at the time and have fond memories of having a piece of silk pajama pulled over my head and being filmed for reference. It was an incredible experience working alongside such a talented and dedicated team who put in countless hours to bring these shots to life and its great to see people still enjoying the work after all these years. Keep up the good work Corridor Crew.

[@MattMeier]

For anyone trying to read that flash of text near the end of the video... "What? You want an award? You're really good at pausing, big whoop. Nah seriously, way to go though I'm just jealous I can't pause that fast. I've missed out on so many frame-long easter eggs on KZbin videos over the years and I'll never know what I'm missing because of my dumb slow fingers. Enjoy it while it lasts. Stick around for a minute or two even. You earned it."

[@kblackeagle2706]

If you're on a computer, using the , and . keys goes back or forward one frame at a time. Really helpful to catch these 1 frame easter eggs. Sadly I don't know if there's an equivalent on mobile.

[@x3of9]

Fun fact, you can step through youtube videos frame by frame using the , and . keys (which on a US layout are shared with < and > for easy reference).

[@flabbergast_se]

Confirmed

[@NavidVasei]

@@kblackeagle2706 damn, i now wish i scrolled lower down in the comments, took me 10mins to do it the hard way

[@samuelevans7422]

That was cruel! I watched on TV... took a few attempts of pressing play/pause on the old remote but I got there eventually. 😅

[@jajssblue]

24:50 I think this is one of the better arguments I've heard for why 24 fps feels cinematic beyond its just what we're used to. I would love to see a video where you guys actually test this premise some how.

[@zlobzor]

They tested it in the video. And congratulated my pausing ability.

[@guyjcollins]

@@zlobzor Someone tell them that you can frame by frame in youtube using the comma and fullstop buttons XD

[@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr]

yeah its a great argument for using lower framerates, when each frame matters more, you use them more effectively and artistically and they can have more impact

[@jajssblue]

@@zlobzor I saw it and read it. But I mean a test as in a cinematic language effect that is supposed to evoke an emotion beyond a comedic easter egg.

[@MiniMackeroni]

Though on the same note I do want to make an argument for just a vanishing blink teleport. It can be used very well, but for horror and tension rather than action. If you've ever seen the old JoJo's Bizzare Adventure OVA when he fight Dio... It looks straight up spooky.

[@DJphotoandtech]

I love how at around 10:45 they spend so much time discussing how they added Hagrid walking with the kids with compositing without realising that he was literally just the double in the suit (with the dead head) that they discuss a few minutes later. Watch the shot of Hagrid walking again and note how his mouth doesn't move as he's talking.

[@Cub140]

I was literally about to come here and say this! Later on in that behind the scene clip they discuss that shot with the kids, it’s a double!

[@ericcapuccibortolozi]

25:46 "This time, we are 'Sirius'" 😂😂😂

[@DuhBla]

For those that don't know, you can pause the video and scroll frame-by-frame on youtube with the < and > on your keyboard. For mobile devices, drag up the video progress bar to get a finer scrub.

[@da_SpiffR]

I am blown away EVERY time I see how many resources are put into early computer graphics of the 80's and 90's. Even though they all don't stand up over time they are still jaw dropping for the insane amount of time, effort, love, and a YOLO kind of "let's DO this" put into them. Mucho respect to all those innovators.

[@paranoid9678]

well star fighter effects would just need modeer textureing lights, shadows and effects all the detailed where there even in more then dobble the resolutiuon modern movies use for cgi todays to bad you can to that...........

[@davidsentanu7836]

​@@paranoid9678Today you can put the footage into AI filter.

[@killomaster]

The fact that Nico thought the first Hagrid shot was comp and not the suit one, speaks to how good it works. Someone on KZbin made a really great video about it, if I find the name I’ll edit this post. Edit: JohnH3864 found the video: How They Made Hagrid Big by Paul E.T.

[@jackleface2903]

i think they mention it in the video at 11:23

[@IV-A]

I really wanted them to go back to that. Hagrids mouth does not even move and Niko talking about comp.

[@JohnH3864]

How They Made Hagrid Big by Paul E.T. might be what you're looking for. It's a great video!

[@dancrooksycamore]

@@JohnH3864 It's probably what prompted the discussion in this video, same as RLM covering The Last Starfighter

[@killomaster]

@JohnH3864 Yes thats the one!

[@derrydobbie8375]

Fun fact! The first Cray I was sold to NCAR and they left the final purchase details to a secretary. When they asked her if there was anything else they wanted for the computer, she commented "it would be nice if there was a place to sit on it while you worked with it". They didn't know what to do because you don't sit at the Cray I physically to work on it, but they didn't want to lose the first sale So they upholstered the power supply. That's not a seat wrapped around the Cray I, but the power supply and they continued to upholster them moving forward. Found that out on a tour at NCAR where they have their Cray I still on display.

[@sharkbaitgaming]

That’s awesome haha thanks for that tidbit

[@alexreynozo1267]

You guys are a true pleasure and are one of the only reasons I use KZbin. All the knowledge you guys have is insane and truly shows that you found your passions. That's what makes you all so great to watch. I am always looking forward to your next video. Thank you for being one of the most genuine channels out there that teach people something so incredible. Keep on keeping on 😬

[@VirajasKulkarni]

This is what the one frame easter egg message says: What? You want an award? You're really good at pausing, big whoop. Nah seriously, way to go though. I'm just jealous I can't pause that fast. I've missed out on so many frame-long easter eggs on KZbin videos ver the years and I'll never know what I'm missing because of my dumb slow fingers. Enjoy it while it lasts. Stick around for a minute or two even. You earned it.

[@codyt821]

To be fair, in the movie Jumper they made a point to show it was closed for refurbishment or something, thats why nobody is there in the scene

[@cube2fox]

Refurbishment :'D

[@ianism3]

refurbyment

[@FiamattaAsto]

the furby men

[@aaronriekerii3582]

the flirty tent

[@ConnorHammond]

@@cube2fox Restomod. Whatever.

[@germansnowman]

Fun facts about the Cray: It was C-shaped because the fastest signal paths were put on the inner ring so the electrical connections would be as short as possible to squeeze out the maximum amount of speed, and the seat covered the cooling units.

[@NotThatOneThisOne]

The thing to remember with The Last Starfighter is that the plot had the main character recruited based on his skill playing an arcade game, so it's cgi look fitted the story in a meta kind of way.

[@KaladinVegapunk]

I'm just so confused how they cover it a WEEK after redlettermedia also did a re: view of it haha, did they see the video too? Seems too random

[@thork6974]

@@KaladinVegapunk This year was the 40th anniversary of LSF's release.

[@seth1422]

I’m so happy they finally covered this movie! It played on cable all the time when I was a kid, and the video game recruitment premise really spoke to me as a 9-year-old. And every time they would give their “firsts” in CGI, Nico et al kept skipping over it. Thank you for getting to it! It was revolutionary!

[@chriskeach1908]

It might not look so good today but 10 year old me really enjoyed LSF, may explain a lifetime addiction to video games, still waiting for my call up 😆

[@hebl47]

@@KaladinVegapunk They film these videos weeks in advance. So yes, it is just a coincidence. As for general timing: as the other commenter pointed out, it's an anniversary.

[@christiancorona5640]

Where’s this week’s show?

[@danedoering]

Right?

[@jackpercymcguire6167]

I'm freaking out. Idk if I can live without my weekly dose of react.

[@plantnation1940]

😢

[@AmrT1997]

i hope the channel isnt hacked again :(

[@TheDankMatter]

I’m assuming due to LA being alight, they are all taking safety first and evacuating where necessary, stay safe CC crew

[@TheCarninator]

The shot of Hagrid walking with the kids is just Coltrane's double. No comping. If you look closely you'll see his mouth doesn't move when he speaks, because of the mask his double is wearing (animatronic for later movies).

[@mccartyproductions]

Yes I was thinking the same thing and was upset that they didn’t even mention the animatronic mask in that

[@joshuaburch382]

Yep, I came here to say the same thing. It's a tall dude on stilts with a practical head.

[@mccartyproductions]

@ and it’s literally in the same exact documentary that they show

[@HoricHraje]

@@mccartyproductions They mention it a while later.

[@mccartyproductions]

@ I meant in that scene specifically

[@mr._.mav792]

I highkey love the idea that the discrepancy between the faces in the fire can be explained in-universe by one being a dying fire and the other being a lively fire

[@Zoroff74]

Yeah, but the 2D projection on the flames is still horribly lazy and flat compared to shaping a face with volumetric flames.

[@skenzyme81]

24:40 something in his voice here compelled me to subscribe

[@medalion1390]

Yvan eht nioj

[@Scorpshee]

Thanks for another awesome video! I had no idea they did all those effects for Hagrid! I was wondering if you could look at the scene in Batman and Robin where Bane changes from his small skinny body to the huge muscular one all in one take. (Apologies if you already looked at it!)

[@razorbladekizz]

If you watch it on VHS the effects hold up. It's the 4k that makes it look crazy

[@KudoRedfox]

VHS hide a lot of flaws due to it's shoddy quality

[@morganseppy5180]

​@KudoRedfoxwhat about Betamax?

[@KudoRedfox]

@@morganseppy5180 I never owned Betamax tapes so i can't comment

[@christof4105]

Thats right! Back in the days i got "True Lies" on VHS and it was awesome, now on 4k Stream i can clearly see the stuntdouble of Arnold who was riding the police horse.

[@spikerzombie]

@KudoRedfoxanalog VHS looks more like reality then digital film don’t @ me

[@simonhopkins1338]

The Last Starfighter was incredible when it first came out. You say that it doesn't hold up but at the time we hadn't seen anything like that before. The impact it had was bigger than you think! We weren't used to visuals like that, it felt really special and definitely made it stand out from all the other Star Wars inspired sci fi films.

[@DZR-O]

9:40 “ I liked being a couch it was simpler” Jordan’s acting dude, Hollywood HIRE this man

[@LittleCheebs]

😭SIT ON ME😭

[@cillcamst2]

J.D. Vance enters the room.

[@charlesflohr1815]

We don’t really think how easy we have some things until we go back to early effects. I still remember slogging through the Video Toaster on the Amiga.

[@pablitonewmusic]

One of the best ones!! Love the focus on history and respect for the craft of those who came before you. I love a good Sam roast, but I think the combo of these three works so well!! Congrats!!! also, hats off to the editor ◡̈

[@Chilluv]

The fact that yall covered The Last Starfighter brought tears to my eyes 😭

[@rockero1313]

yes, finally. it might not "hold up" today but I still love that movie

[@demonwarb1]

We rented that movie probably once a month from the local VHS rental shop for like a year before my parents finally said "Enough!"

[@suntanironman]

@@rockero1313 I think it still holds up. The melted ice cream caves… that part… well, they did their best with the limited amount of time they had. But everything else I still think looks great even in almost-2025. Edit: Oh. I just realized that huh had “holds up” in quotation marks. Indicating that you probably also think that it still g looks good as well.

[@vonnyrotten]

I think a huge part of all these older movies is almost every single one of the clips are super clean 1080-4k remasters seen on screens of the same resolution, but when they came out they were shown on old film reels, projected onto old screens in a theater, and WHEN they eventually made it to physical media, they were at best 360-480p on old crappy tube televisions or CRTs. Put a filter on some of these older movies and they sell WAAAAY better than they even look in full res. The nature of the film and lower resolution help "dirty" up even darken(increased contrast and saturation) shots that look way too bright and clean at full HD or higher!

[@no1DdC]

On one hand, yes, but on the other hand, they rendered The Last Starfighter at 3000x5000 and 36 bit color depth. They clearly went for maximum detail and sharpness, because there were at least some higher-end cinemas that could really show this hard work off.

[@bryanwoods3373]

On a tangent, this is apparently why older games are difficult to upscale. CRTs had that honeycomb thing with the pixels that bleed across each other, so developers used that to blend colors and smooth lines as a direct practical effect to your eyes.

[@vonnyrotten]

@@no1DdC I think you misunderstand the point I was making. I was trying to point out that all of these older movies that are reviewed and "critiqued" were never seen in super high definition, nor intended to be. Regardless of The Last Starfighter facts you point out, 99% of the population would never have seen any of the older movies on anything better than 480p with poor color rendition and VHS grain, so all of those limitations aided just how good they looked back then. We get a lot of comments of "it doesn't hold up today" where I bet if you put the movie in a VCR and watched in on a period appropriate monitor, the effect would be way more impressive. Many monster/horror movies from the 70's-90's with SFX or VFX or CGI look way too clean and "bright" when seen on blu-ray, but on an old VHS or even DVD with like effectively 5 stops of dynamic range, the darks were so much darker and the limitations of CGI were helped by the lack of quality media. My whole point is that all these older clips looked even more impressive when they are watched how they were originally produced.

[@TobiasTurkelton]

THIS!!! Even though it's all digital now, this is part of why a lot of the make up in The Hobbit looked so wonky - it was shot at a high frame rate/high def but the practcal makeup effects were made to look good at 24 fps.

[@Kenionatus]

@@no1DdC Damn, that's some insane specs they renedered it to.

[@Starjukker]

A tip for frame-long easter eggs (like the one at 25:06): you can pause and move frame-by-frame using the < and > keys. Enjoy!

[@Cardiopazia]

Or for A european keyboard use , and . keys.

[@kuromiLayfe]

Was a pain to catch it on mobile 😂

[@ucitymetalhead]

Or you can go overboard and film your tv in slow mo and carefully scrub through the video till you get it cause you don't want to lose. 😅

[@joshuabarnett88]

I couldn't catch it on my phone 😂

[@mondodimotori]

LOL! And I felt a jenius by using x0.25 playback speed to pause frame by frame easily. That's a pro move!

[@Detectivebongrips]

They've DONE IT! they MISSED A SATURDAY!

[@shaithis77]

It happened before when they were supposedly hacked.

[@notelliot70]

And a Sunday now. 🙀

[@Detectivebongrips]

@@notelliot70 we are in dark times... For real I hope they just need a break tbh more than anything. It's a good thing and not all good things last long

[@knowwherefamous9067]

So weird not having the weekly react to watch 😂

[@greyfox2344]

I'm always blown away when you guys show your discoveries of very early CGI innovations. Like, 1978??? I'm more of a gamer instead of a movie buff, but I fully attribute the levels of how impressive CG is in video games today to foundations laid from the pioneers of years past. Thanks, Corridor!

[@gelatinguy]

And vice versa, the need for games to render CGI in real-time has pushed movie effects far beyond just brute force ray tracing.

[@BenDood]

Same. I love how a passion for good fx can transfer passion so seemlessly.

[@morganseppy5180]

When I went to college, Cray computers were the top machines to work on, and the math geeks were on them all the time to render fractals and answers with levels of precision that would take forever on our win 95/98 machines.

[@CluggsyMcbeal]

Yeah I requested The Last Starfighter like a year ago! Finally glad you guys are touching on the first ever film to use CGI! What history

[@StrawB0ss]

Anyone else freaking out that today's episode is late?

[@jackpercymcguire6167]

Yeah bro. Getting kinda worried ngl

[@navindunethmina9351]

Yeah man this is like the first time i'm seeing they are not posting the episode on time:/

[@shaithis77]

@@navindunethmina9351they missed a week a bit ago, saying they were hacked. Maybe it’s part 2 of that?

[@Kjleed13]

@@shaithis77​​⁠​⁠​⁠yep this the 2nd time they been late by my count. And I’ve been subscribed since 2011

[@DaMapleMoose]

Another creator I follow had a video get pushed to tomorrow for some unknown reason tho it was supposed to post itself today. I'm guessing it's the same issue.

[@BlenderB-123]

I hope you’re ok in the wildfires ❤❤❤

[@brj_han]

Saw The Last Starfigher in the theaters when it first came out. For it's day, it was damned impressive. Still looks okay today when you consider its age...

[@ello_verity7667]

I’ve seen plenty of recent cgi jobs that are less realistic to me despite all their up-to-date lighting, textures etc… maybe because the animation (at least in the clips shown here) is so smooth, the performance is quite immersive regardless? But then, I also think that super realistic cgi might be cool but it’s somewhat overrated. If you’ve engaged your audience in your performance/story, their imagination will do a lot to fill in the blanks. The cgi just needs to be good enough to serve its purpose. I’m not sure how much other people would agree with me on that.

[@suntanironman]

I’m so jealous of you. To have seen this movie in theaters when it first came out. For me I’ve watched it on VHS on a tiny TV. And then DVD with the anniversary edition on a slightly bigger TV. And I also have it as a digital download that I actually watched the other day on my iPad Mini while cycling at the gym, lol. I would love to watch it on a huge theater screen at least once.

[@brj_han]

@@suntanironman You just had to be alive at the right time, lol. I saw the second show on opening day of Star Wars in 1971 in 70mm. That was standing room only. That was an experience... I saw the first show on opening day of Raiders Of The Lost Ark. Theater was empty. We went because of the Lucas/Spielberg ads, but had literally no idea what the movie was about. Imagine our surprise, lol. Of course, those were the days when you had to see a movie on the big screen. No consumer video.

[@suntanironman]

I’m mostly jealous because the majority of the movies that I like were made in the 70s and 80s… but I’m a 90s kid, lol. So my childhood experience of watching most of my favorite films are on VHS tapes on tiny TVs. It’s the rare few exceptions (like the Star Wars Special Editions) where I got to later experience those in the theater (which was an amazing experience). But most of my favorite movies I’ve only experienced on the small screen. If there is ever a special showing of The Last Starfighter at a local theater, I would definitely go to that. Although… I live in Japan now… so that’s super unlikely to happen, lol.

[@---l---]

The manual digitizing, the precision of the manual drafting is incredible.

[@jasonblalock4429]

You guys still need to look at 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Came out around the same time as Last Starfighter and has some really ahead-of-its-time VFX - like a wholly CG Jupiter done with a fluid sim. Plus some great models and wire work too. Check out the spacewalk scene!

[@SeanFlynnNB]

👍Jupiter's atmosphere is the car our CGI dog will never quite catch. New generations of space probes reveal ever more complexity.

[@spdcrzy]

@@SeanFlynnNB it's the ultimate simulation, too: constant destruction, full fluid (both gases and liquids are fluids) sim, gravity, heat, plasma, storms, everything all in one. One day, we will be able to model Jupiter at a pretty high resolution down to the cubic kilometer and have meteorology forecasts for it just like we have here.

[@TalesOfWar]

That film was stubbornly hard to find the last time I was looking for it on Blu-ray about 10 years ago. It follows in the lines of its predecessor in terms of the visual effects.

[@Julius_JMC]

4:23 From what I remember, the effect in the book was more like someone cut their head off and placed it on the logs. There were no flame or fire effects to the head or face. It was just a regular disembodied head floating in green flames.

[@OmRiWoLF]

Yep, Umbridge tried to grab Sirius's head if I remember, not possible in the movies

[@markjamesmurphy]

GREEN FLAMES!

[@MichaelWutsch]

Looks like you missed your first react upload today. Good start to the year

[@VortaBlack]

Regarding the single-frame text at 25:06, you can use , and . buttons to move frame by frame if you cannot pause right on it.

[@mikebrown2989]

You have changed my life

[@GeneralSpooda]

well damn i sat here for longer than i care to trying to pause perfectly, then i slowed down the playback ahha wish id known that

[@jacober8214]

HOLY ASS BATMAN!!!

[@jax9954]

How do I do it on a phone?

[@jfess1911]

"The Last Starfighter" came at a point where we were fully aware that the effects did not quite look real......but they DID look cool, especially when compared to most of the effects of the time. The CRAY computers used were some of the most powerful in the world; Even Lucasfilm work was often not convincing, especially when the budget was not huge, so the digital effects were an interesting step forward.

[@SeanBlader]

On top of that, the movie itself was actually well written, well performed, and just a fun cool story.

[@Android480]

17:30 this is exactly how old school drafting worked, for sailing yachts for example. You’d get a canvas the entire size of the boat, and then carefully draw every single plank from all 6 perspectives, at full size, onto the canvas. Then you have this almost 3d representation on paper, that you can match all your framing to, and figure out depth information. Very cool process.

[@lovro4744]

A would watch an entire video on that.

[@efnick96]

I love the love example with Niko disappearing while explaining the effect. It's just such a small detail that could have been ignored but makes the description of the effect so much more clear

[@sometimeclown5281]

Record broken.... New episode? Where it at though?! Hope everyone is okay.

[@Jack_Wolfe]

25:00 Editor, Quick tip, you know the keyboard buttons < and > (greater than less than) it lets you scroll through a video frame by frame while paused.

[@greenley77]

The other thing that REALLY helps sell the effects in Last Starfighter is the plot point that the main character is playing a video game which was then revealed to be a recruiting tool from another dimension - the ships and effects in that dimension looked exactly like the video game we the viewer had already bought into earlier. I believe it as a video game and now I believe it as another dimension.

[@suntanironman]

In another dimension?! How many are left?! Including yourself? Yeah! One! One?!

[@DobieTanpaw]

I've watched TLS dozens of times, and I don't ever recall them saying that it's occurring in another dimension. It's just happening many light years away from Earth, which is why Centauri uses "star drive" to get there, which is that movie's version of hyperspace/warp drive/lightspeed drive.

[@seencapone]

Back when this first came out, we speculated that the whole Starfighter savior story was going to turn out to be an escapist fantasy as imagined by the main character, but he couldn’t imagine it in a much more advanced way than the videogame he was addicted to playing to avoid the banality of his trailer park existence.

[@suntanironman]

@@DobieTanpaw You are correct. It didn’t take place in another dimension. The only mentions of another dimension was when Grig was talking about his concept of an afterlife. Grig prefers to think of the dead Starfighters “as battling evil in another dimension”. Grig also gives his equivalent of ‘rest in peace’ when he says to Centauri “Until the next dimension, old friend.”

[@markedis5902]

My cousin did Grawp amongst other things in Harry Potter. He also did Hagrid, making him large by CG

[@daylen577]

There's just no world where that second fire face is okay. They knew they could do a full 3D 'fire turns face-shaped' effect, and they just didn't.

[@johnofthenorth6653]

The first fire effect is just far more "magical" feeling so while it may not have been as true to the words in the book I think it was much more true to the spirit of the world that was being created by the movies.

[@FiamattaAsto]

@@johnofthenorth6653 yeah, the first one might have not been true to the book but it maintains the aesthetics of the movies

[@elgoofer]

i really loves the last starfighter in my youth,,, TY for to give this reacyion to my memory

[@philippacoulson9946]

My favourite fireplace scene is from The Lion,the Witch and the Wardrobe in Tummuns house when he first meets Lucy. The fire animals are great 😊

[@RealMilester1]

That scanning of the 2D drawing to 3D wireframe is just so cool

[@no1DdC]

Interestingly, the ability to draw complex 3D models directly on a computer had existed since the 1950s (and since the 1960s commercially), but the problem was that you had to retrain a person with a high hourly wage for this, which is obviously not desirable. It was much cheaper and easier to have a trained artist use then pen and paper they were familiar with and then give an intern a crash course on how to digitize that drawing with a simple tool, which is why they did it like this.

[@RealMilester1]

@no1DdC Sadly always the interns slaving away, but it looks cool

[@FeelsGouda]

Regarding jumper, another fun fact is, that they were NOT allowed to put the cameras on the floor or the walls. So they had to carry them around the whole 2 hours without putting them down once.

[@itslouiemoo8018]

The Last Starfighter is an 80's Sci-fi classic!!!!

[@mattsparling9843]

Careful. Talk like that too much and you too will be recruited to fight the Kodan Armada,

[@CobraDBlade]

As someone who watched it way too much growing up, I am so happy that The Last Starfighter has been getting more attention lately. Such a fun movie.

[@giarrigi]

I'm so glad you guys covered the Last Starfighter. It was revolutionary, and I loved that movie as a kid.

[@metalted1157]

Jordan feels so natural and at home but at the same time i still have the idea that he just joined yesterday, although its probably been years by now. It might be a fun video series to dive into the casts past. Like how did people end up at corridor? What did they do before this, where did they get their skill and what inspired them to do this line of work. And how is he always so happy, thats the real secret.

[@lonelylama5222]

Unfortunately corridor has always been very hush hush.

[@shamcoinc.853]

You guys should do a Secret Level episode! The animation on that show absolutely blew me away!

[@CaptainJerry775]

Ye

[@NicolasMarti-me1xp]

YES

[@04d.mohanakrishnanxiib44]

💯 % agreed

[@The8merp]

Great animations, okay storytelling, that entire show was just Tim Miller making beautiful trailers / cinematic cutscenes for video games

[@templetonf]

To the editor of this video, prepare to have your mind blown: the period and comma keys. Boom. Your life will never be the same now.

[@suspicious_stew2]

Corridor corridor corridor crew, where are you

[@ChepkokKimuk]

24:40 Love that single frame of subscribe when wren says "Theres a lot of power in a single frame"

[@MightyZarquon]

Very pleased to see The Last Starfighter on here. That made me wonder, if VFX Artists React have ever covered Babylon 5? My favourite SciFi TV show. (Probably followed by Battlestar Galactica remake, and then from more recently, Foundation... which I actually started watching AFTER I saw it covered on here)

[@RocksterOO1]

If I remember correctly, they used Lightwave on a Commodore Amiga for all of the CGI on that show?! Babylon 5, I mean.

[@aharon672]

Competition idea: compete to design the LEAST helpful full body CGI suit. Imagine a superhero "Impossicomp Man" who is SUPER hard to comp. Like a weird bright green and bright blue pattern all over him that's reflective. Then challenge members to comp each other's footage. Do some sort of points system for fun.

[@lforlight]

Pretty cool.

[@thork6974]

They kind of did that with the "magic prism" sodium-vapor matte process video. Jordan in a rainbow wig.

[@joshharris2961]

You guys seriously need to check out Hundreds of Beavers!!! The movie makes sooo many different choices with it's many different effects. You would have so much to look at!!

[@thork6974]

Some brilliant zero-budget solutions too!

[@RH1812]

I love Jumper. It’s definitely a part 1 with no part 2, but the scar effect is a classic

[@Rhyzomect]

wheres my saturday morning cartoons

[@danedoering]

Yeah! Where???!!!

[@Emcekay]

Fr!!! I've been waiting also

[@FelixSandwichez]

25:33 Wren has barley aged in the last 15 years, wow!

[@Nymaz]

Wren died 13 and a half years ago. Every time you see him in a video since, it's been a digi double. It's only lately that they have had the time and rendering power to start aging him.

[@d-emprahexpects]

Because he jumps a lot. Keeps him young and active

[@blahah123]

The restaurant gun fight scene in Push (2009) would be a neat breakdown

[@juansantoscid8337]

Minute 10:40 is actually is Hagrid the Giant, a big actor they use. If you see it closely in that shot Hagrid is not moving his mouth, because Hagrid the giant is wearing an animatronic mask.

[@gilgermesch]

That was still the dead-head, not the animatronic: had they had the animatronic, they could have moved the mouth, but this was the first version that was essentially a fancy mask!

[@crzytygr1517]

This!! ^^^^^^

[@venom7111]

Thank you editor. I was worried my reward for pausing was gonna be not worth the effort I put in, but thank you for being sweet enough to make up for the 10 minutes it took me to get that frame. It was worth it. I will stay for a minute or two. Thank you.

[@jeffswords645]

Dear Corridor. OMG! I made the comment about showing the magic cleanup spell!! When you claimed you would look into it I just decided that you never listened, but OMG you actually listened and talked about a scene which I have NEEDED a good explanation for ever since I saw the 'artists react' shows

[@GamePhysics]

wonder how long it's been since they missed a saturday upload.

[@2011Scarecrow]

I believe they once said that they have never missed an upload. That is, until now

[@stevenbergom3415]

Something to think about Last Starfighter: The images were rendered on a Cray YMP, the fastest, most powerful supercomputer of the time and it still took weeks to render all of the images for the film. Today we can render all of the frames, in real-time with better quality on a smartphone.

[@zeljkokuvara6145]

@@stevenbergom3415 and FX were not the best part of the movie. Now we have great FX movies and low charm/charisma/entertainment/relatibility movies.

[@biomike01]

People dont understand just how far we have come, the Cray was half the power of an X-box, its mind blowing how powerful it was

[@Marc_Fuchs_1985]

@@zeljkokuvara6145 You name it, pal. The tech-factor of movies is as high as could possibly be, while the content-factor is at an all-time low. Stories are bad and boring, characters are incredibly shallow, rehashes left and right and Hollywood being creatively bankrupt. Even those movies we still like, aren't really good. All the Sonic movies are a joy to watch, but when you really break it down, they are not very good movies. But I guess they work, because they simply aren't pretending to be the new bestest thing on the planet, that everybody needs to see. They are perfectly fine, dumb entertainment.

[@rossbooth4635]

My 9 year old just finished the last Harry Potter book a few weeks ago, so we're binging them all right now and it's impressive how much the CG evolved over the course of just 10 years. It really speaks to how much it advanced in the '00s.

[@isaackim7675]

I was right at your kid’s age when Harry Potter became popular

[@BadOsaru]

Last star fighter was my favorite movie for years. I'm glad you finally recognized it.

[@teemuve]

FINALLY some of that sweet The Last Starfighter acknowledgment. A 11 year old me seeing the film for the first time totally blew me away.

[@Bruno_Felipe]

Please, do a episode about Skeleton Crew. The visual effects team are doing a amazing job.

[@FatherMerica]

are you all okay? isn't there a giant fire going on?

[@9fran9rosatti9]

25:06 Poor editor didn't know how you can move through frames using , and . while the video is paused, never miss any more frame-long easter eggs!

[@turnoffthetv7709]

Here's a tip for people trying to see the one-frame gags, you can use the < and > keys on a keyboard to skip forward and backward exactly one frame.

[@Dysan72]

I love that comment atr 25.06. Espically because it shows that at least one of the editors doesn't know that KZbin has frame step. Pause the video and use < and >.

[@shaunm6383]

Serious Black should have been animated in the fire the same way both times. It was good the first time. I don't know why they changed it.

[@Dreagon-yc3zq]

Goblet of fire had a director who didnt even read the books, he literally wanted to burn the forbidden forest down. Order of the phoenix had a director who cared about the books a lot, and in this case made a mistake because of it

[@AlexanderMRoth-hr7rd]

Films to react to: Queer - miniatures, vfx the melding of two bodies in the back half of the film, there is a lot to unpack. Nosferatu 2024 - opening sequence of shadow in curtains to the hand across the city. So much. Nosferatu episode. Original vs Herzog vs Robert Eggers

[@POTTERANDMATRIXFAN]

When I read the books for the first time, I imagined people's actual heads emerging out of whichever fireplace they went to. I still keep wondering how that would actually look like, and if it would be too goofy.

[@Mnought]

I'd imagine it'd be like the head in wizard of oz

[@crypticcorgi8280]

25:06 [What it said in that quick frame.] _"What? You want an award? You're really good at pausing, big whoop. Nah seriously, way to go though. I'm just jealous I can't pause that fast. I've missed out on so many frame-long easter eggs on KZbin videos over the years and I'll never know what I'm missing because of my dumb slow fingers. Enjoy it while it lasts. Stick around for a minute or two even. You earned it."_ I played back the part to see what he said before the quick frame pop. Then I slowed down the frame rate 0.25×, waited for him to finish the sentence, and did quick taps. With a small pause each double tap (to unpause and pause again quickly) to make sure I didn't accidentally unpause when I got it. Use the time stamp above to practice if you want. It's like a save point.

[@Rey_y_punto]

way more easy: use the "," and "." to move frame by frame in a youtube video 😉

[@crypticcorgi8280]

@Rey_y_punto Useful. O: I don't have a computer currently. Just a phone. But I will keep that in mind.

[@joshuaandrews7766]

Dude vfx is so unbelievably crazy... the history of it blows my mind every time I see another fun shot.

[@Dagwagon-o7]

love to see some history of FX software and hardware, like Alias|Wavefront Power animator on an SGI Octane for example.

[@Moosenuse]

Actully FUN FACT! look at hagrid in this sceen, dose his face look a bit stif? well thats because u guys were wrong, they had a super tall rugby player to do all the big hagrid shots, and he wore a anamatrocic hagrid head, this shot uses that hagrid animatronic, its in a really cool behind the sceens of hagrid documentry i watched :D so yea na wasnt a comp hes actully there! 10:59

[@howkel]

That "guy" drawing was Ron Cobb.

[@scaryoldstories]

Indeed, Cobb is not just “a guy”

[@blutobutt9169]

I love the Corridor channel, but sometimes they lack a sense of their own history. Anything before 2000 is ancient history. Young people, ....hmph! Ron Cobb was a giant.

[@howkel]

@@blutobutt9169 naw, it was just an oversight. They're busy guys always making fun, quality stuff. They have a reverence for what came before. That's actually why I was a bit surprised.

[@automotiverenderings]

​@@blutobutt9169Yeah it's a big oversight. They should bring him in and do a whole episode to apologize 😂

[@automotiverenderings]

Oh snap ... He passed away during the Pandemic 😢

[@ZapProd]

I love Jordan being on the Corridor React videos, he fits in so well

[@realJacobNichols]

I really enjoy them using the effects at the same time they are taking about them. (Nico “teleporting”).

[@LogicalNiko]

The reason the cray at the time was built into a C shape was actually to minimize the length of the cross cabinets connections on the inside diameter. By building each section in a wedge shape they shortened cables by a few inches. This may not seem like something that was significant, but the cray systems were pushing bus speeds, power density, and voltage limits at the time. If they were to design the original units in a linear setup they would have to up power levels to the point where components would de soldier themselves and the EM levels would cause problems throughout the system. As the models advanced semiconductor technology and tolerances improved. Power requirements per chip lowered. So the later models just maintained the shape because it was distinctive. Eventually Cray systems went back to a conventional rack system.

[@gerardsays]

Wow.. no post on saturday??? What’s going on?

[@cleverusername9369]

Um... idk if you know this, but Los Angeles, where they are, is on fire...?

[@MrAlfable]

Sunday morning and still no new episode? How long do we wait before calling the police to file a missing persons report?

[@mrj8429]

The Last Starfighter. Finally! Thank you. This was the first the movie I ever purchased. All those years ago on VHS. I've just purchased it on 4K. My number 1 favourite movie. You guys should re-do the CGI for this, just to see how it looks.

[@MaiTai16]

Very nice react today y'all. Wishing Corridor Crew a happy holiday and healthy new year.

[@CoPaMundiaL1909]

this series is so great to watch. Hopefully the second part of HP comes out soon. Really love it