SWT NA East Group C - Riddles (Kazuya) Vs. Syrup (Ness) Smash Ultimate Tournament

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[@zacharyh5419]

4:32 "really doubt riddles will get a full stock lead in the first 20 seconds. Riddles then zero to deaths syrup at exactly 20 seconds into the match.

[@dj_senf6741]

Man, that's hilarious!

[@Aflay1]

Commentators curse at it's finest.

[@ricardotrenado1038]

Just like how riddles got 0’d to death in 14 seconds

[@xivinum1044]

@@ricardotrenado1038 🤓

[@lyraandluma5309]

Both players played really well this was a great set I love it when a crazy volatile matchup manages to still go to game 5

[@SkeleXon]

That tech to hitting Ness's PK Thunder from Riddles was GODLIKE

[@sympathy_for_strays]

was looking for a comment about this. such a good job of just going out and hitting the bolt two separate times [that i caught] by Riddles

[@sympathy_for_strays]

i'm glad EE is over his "pun not intended phase" after super blatant puns like the 1 about Syrup getting out of a sticky situation. it lets him just be funny

[@the_bookworm8281]

Ness was also the character that eliminated Riddles at Smash Con. Riddles may need to grind out that matchup more, or find a better character pick vs Ness, cause the way the character was weaving around Kazuya's moves and dishing out punishment seems very annoying to deal with.

[@jackparkinson-bates6763]

i thought he beat scend in a close 3-2?

[@the_bookworm8281]

@@jackparkinson-bates6763 That was Brr.

[@jackparkinson-bates6763]

@@the_bookworm8281 huh?

[@the_bookworm8281]

@@jackparkinson-bates6763 A different Kazuya player named Brr was the one who narrowly beat Scend.

[@the_bookworm8281]

@@porpoise8160 IcyMist beat him in winner's. He then lost to PkChris in loser's to be out at 33rd.

[@ArynBacklogDragon]

Man that auto-turnaround failing and costing Riddles the match was so painful.

[@nucleartree8159]

But there is also a lot of times where auto turn around got him the hit

[@ArynBacklogDragon]

@@nucleartree8159 I mean, that's kinda what it's supposed to do.

[@BBB-pe3ip]

@@nucleartree8159 "His broken steering wheel cost him the race" "But there is also a lot of times where his steering wheel got him the win"

[@nucleartree8159]

@@BBB-pe3ip what I mean is that there is a lot of times where he would've whiffed a hit but the turnaround saved him, sure its annoying that it faults sometimes but in the end it has helped him a lot more

[@LucasDarkGiygas]

What auto turnaround fail? Where did it happened?

[@jerrdnn61]

Halfway thru and Omg these two are Nuts! Back to back 0 deaths at the start for Kazuya, yet Syrups ness answers to come back in the second for a win. 1 to 1 now, this is interesting indeed

[@Ajaylix]

Thanks for spilling out the deats man

[@DogshitArgument]

@@Ajaylix Going to comments before finishing a set that already happened is begging to be spoiled. You know better.

[@jerrdnn61]

My guy∆∆∆∆∆∆

[@CookieGal-]

These two characters with these two players was so incredible to watch.

[@samsee_ca]

I love this set so, so much. The first hit that connects is a random Kazuya forward smash. THREE games start with (very quick!) zero-to-deaths, yet FOUR of them go to last stock, last hit. “Unpredictable” doesn’t even begin to describe how wild this was to watch live.

[@verbage432]

Syrup played amazing but man Ness's kit is so good at shutting down shotos. Advantage Disadvantage Neutral Off-Stage even boxing, the one thing shotos were built to be the best at get outboxed by ness's disjoints. i feel like if it wasn't for Kazuya's raw kill power i don't think this match would have been nearly as close

[@adomali87yearsago.71]

You need to play so much harder than he does

[@Rainb0wDElta]

Obligatory, "Kazuya isn't a shoto"

[@verbage432]

@@Rainb0wDElta I guess the better word is Fgc's a character archetype that has to be facing the opponent for moves to work correctly

[@fortidogi8620]

ive never heard the term 'boxing' for smash

[@chordalharmony]

@@fortidogi8620 You’ll either hear that or “scrapping” which are synonymous

[@piplup10203854]

Syrup really put the work in with that Ness. Utilizing all of his options well. This is a tough matchup for sure. Kazuya is nuts.

[@evanmalin1685]

That game 5 was so brutal for Kazuya. Ness was just rushing him down and every time riddles finally landed on the ground all he could do was hold shield over and over and then get shield poked by the ness F-air train. Sooo hard to adapt to.

[@TheMonkeydela]

I'd like to point out, he did get the stock lead within 20 seconds

[@R0B0Gamer]

Props to syrup getting zero to death but still coming back and making it even, then answering with his own zero to death! Great match!

[@AceGamingProductions]

DLC privilege for sure. They both played great but I mean syrup was combo-ing for an entire 30 seconds for Kazuya to press a couple buttons, stun lock, and kill ness lol

[@Balthazar2242]

8:43 this exchange blows my mind

[@starter497]

9 minutes in and I can already tell that Riddles execution is not on point at all this entire set. Of course its still better than 90% of the kazuya player but you can how Riddles was afraid to do any sort of fast wave dash and chose to do small controlled ones instead. This is uncharacteristic of how Riddles play when he's feeling it. Moreover there were numerous misinputs that "worked out" in his favor such as the aerial side B at 8:30. As a kazuya main, I would hope Riddles had tried to go for aerial down B in that situation because thats a garunteed kill on town and city using platforms. He also did A LOT of down smash instead of electrics because of crossups but even then the cross up should have gave him a Stature kick if he had perform the electric correctly. Whats very important that people need to be aware of with Kazuya you CANNOT maintain that level of execution every game you play. You will have days where you miss key electrics to close out games. This is clear when Riddles did an uptilt 1 into d/f A rather than electric to confirm the kill on Ness or even flash kick during a combo when it clearly was suppose to be a stature kick to continue the combo on ness game 5. He also felt very impatient as the usual riddles trying to up B after an electric when a platform was nearby in Town. Riddles playing on point would normally had just waited for a tech option and then down B to catch the tech situation since up B is not true given ur opponents tech on the platform. A tech chase would have been optimal. At 10:30 was an easy DGF for Riddles in the combo but instead opted to go for an electric because he most likely felt rushed in his performance and auto piloted to an electric in the combo rather than focus on the percent which costed him another kill. It hurts to see this many execution mistakes from Riddles but it happens when you pilot a character like Kazuya. I think Riddles needs to look for a secondary not just for Kazuyas bad matchups but also for when Riddles is not playing on point. It is completely okay to choose a simpler more comfortable character when you are not mentally feeling okay for the execution. Respects to Syrup for winning. I hope that Riddles take this opportunity to choose a secondary and switch in a set whenever his kazuya is not feeling polished. It would benefit the audience and himself to switch if he feels his execution is lacking a certain day.

[@jasonlobo2350]

That aerial side B its not a miss input or maybe the time stamp is off

[@starter497]

@@jasonlobo2350 the one during the combo? Side B does nothing in the combo so maybe my timestamp is off

[@bradleygo1]

Does anyone know how to use ness’s down smash yo-yo attack to make it go forward like he did at 9:25? Every time I press it it goes backward, but I wanna ledge trap people w it, I have to be back turned if I want it to be in front of me

[@savage6844]

I came across Syrup in an arena 1 time.....DESTROYED me..dudes Ness is insane. Best Ness for sure.

[@anthonyhoneine]

4:18 why did it say he only mains kazuya lol *terry and Roy intensifies*

[@alonsogamez5330]

10:11 right in the nuts 😂😂

[@Mufflin]

Does Riddles not consider Terry his secondary? I've seen him on twitter constantly say that Kazuya's Match up spread doesn't warrant him being a solo main.

[@AtiAlive]

watching syrup gets me so hyped, seeing him go for more optimal ness combos is so cool. cant wait for him to get more consistent with held magnet combos.

[@GaryHackettt]

How can anyone not think Kazuya is the most hype character in Smash man? Like fr

[@theexaltedlt8222]

NOOOOO!! Kazuya's slow ass auto turnaround cost riddles the set! He meant to back tilt but kazuya didn't turn so he just did the wrong tilt. Sad

[@doctor_ozone]

Nah bruh. No one thing Riddles did (or Kazuya didn't do) lost him that match. He lost because Syrup was SCHMOVIN

[@theexaltedlt8222]

@@doctor_ozone you literally seen it in game 4 last stock. Riddles definitely meant to back tilt but because kazuya didn't turn he did the wrong one

[@doctor_ozone]

@@theexaltedlt8222 Awwww, slow character did a slow thing and loooost

[@theexaltedlt8222]

@@doctor_ozone back tilt isn't slow? It's actually pretty quick

[@jasonlobo2350]

@@theexaltedlt8222 leave him, hes one of those that thinks hes always right

[@pranker199171]

Idk why but I'm at a high gsp right now and I haven't encountered any ness or Lucas's I don't even see them in arenas anymore. Anyone got any idea why?

[@angel.martinezsauanl4093]

so... no riddles vs vendetta?

[@XCharizard100]

If he loses another match, probably not

[@alfonshedstrom9859]

Riddles were shielding a lot this set, and Syrup managed to capitalize on it

[@Aflay1]

Riddles did the same. He conditioned shield at 6:29 You're not wrong though. Seemed like Riddles lost his composure a bit at the end after his misinput and Syrup really capitalized on that. He exploded in the last match. It's difficult to contend with Syrups massive combo damage and Kazuya's recovery is very exploitable in this matchup. It's no mistake that Riddles wanted to play more defensively but Syrup was just too oppressive and made almost no mistakes opening him up. Good stuff from both of em though. You have to be stupidly skilled to match Riddles combo game.

[@krisorszag9551]

That first stock of the first game though, is there even a bigger flex than starting the match with a sweet spot F-smash? And then a beautiful 0-death afterwards. And then the pain in the following stock of Kazuya struggling to kill when Ness was over 150% (it can be quite difficult to land a kill sometimes as Kazuya since so many of his moves, especially his faster options, have a launch angle which sends the opponent right to the upper corner of the screen, or they just have low or set knockback. Great and hilarious commentary too, “This is a walk in the park for Kazuya, bro, he aint never had a problem killing no kids... His dad tried to kill him it’s just in the family.” Great plays from both players and all that after only watching the first game.

[@zuko8687]

I’m kind of new to this game well not really I just haven’t played it in a year or so, is kazuya op or is he balanced, I really can’t tell from my skill level of a perspective so can someone explain to me?

[@SpeedDemonV4]

0:17 early start knock off riddles😎🔥🔥

[@BigDaddyKnez]

Ah, remember when we used to think that Bayonetta was too strong?

[@kylebentain1]

Syrup is the reason BestNess changed his tag

[@branbelmont326]

That turn-around problem happens to me all the time it's so annoying when Kazuya doesn't turn quickly

[@Flame2aCandle]

What console are they playing on?

[@brau_bj2060]

14:17 that combo cero to death was ridiculous omg

[@InconsequentialGaming]

I wasn't expecting this match-up to be so fun to watch, GG!!

[@georgegkoumas5026]

Is there gonna be a losers match for Riddles Vs Vendetta?

[@Pkay120]

I swear I keep seeing videos of Syrup vs everyone? How did he go so far in this tournament? Every video I’ve watched he’s lost

[@pokesnax7935]

how does syrup move like that? it makes me wanna play more.

[@kfd784]

Both of these players played like absolute gods!

[@Aflay1]

9:00 Holy shit I did not know they gave Ness Tekken moves too.

[@loganggaming957]

What’s the music for last game?

[@gv82089]

Karma, from Tekken 6

[@brucemyers1121]

Syrup was going hard on Riddles. Fun to watch.

[@sk8_bort]

So you're telling me Syrup is not the Canadian?

[@JesusMartinez-hv6kt]

comentators saying its because armada didnt know the matchup but its 90% riddles just being stupidly good

[@ickysticky1872]

Why does one player always stand up after a game and walk over to the switch?

[@EdeYOlorDSZs]

Good stuff, SWT is a blessing!

[@worldsboss]

What an amazing set!

[@POKEMONSMASHSTAR]

What a set!! An awesome demonstration of what these characters can do ggs to both players... Damn! Riddles was so frustrated at the end, that Kazuya kick could finished the match in game three.

[@_______6398]

Disguisedtoast’s Kazuya is crazy

[@sethandrews401]

Easily my two favorite announcers

[@michaelmirza1933]

There is something hilarious about this match up

[@BiG_SorD]

8:40 was sick af

[@lyrics2challenged]

That game 1 was INSANE!!

[@mcrsmash8319]

Syrup tries to be so fancy he needs to take notes from a Awestin

[@tank5175]

"I need all that *and* a Flintstones gummy" 🤣🤣🤣

[@TyreceDL]

Bro people who keep commenting kazuya is a shoto he isn’t I played every tekken since the arcade machine ones. He not a shoto

[@themacca277]

"i really doubt riddles will get another full stock lead in the first 20 seconds"

[@ArcaJ]

Two of my favorites ❤. I feel so torn!

[@TaariqBethea]

I feel like riddles is impatience like he focuses way too much on crouch dash movement instead of footies

[@matthewmilad]

Riddles had so many chances to grab and close out Ness's 2nd stock in game 1

[@sparkfx5874]

"Really doubt Riddles is gonna uh...get another uhh...full stock lead here right in like the first 20 seconds..." Riddles: 0 to death and 1 stock lead EXACTLY at the 20 second mark. XD OD af

[@nightmareyes9998]

Seeing wavedashing in smash is so surreal

[@chony93]

Riddles has the skill to be the best in the world, he just needs a stronger mentality(where Leo is a king), you can see how his game starts to downgrade death after death.

[@realcourier20]

I hope Syrup and Scend (BestNess) cross paths sooner than later

[@BN99239]

I've been watching Riddle's Kazuya back to back because I really think he plays Kazuya extremely well. However, after watching so many matches, Kazuya is a 1 trick pony. A crazy strong pony, but still 1 trick and it honestly gets boring to watch. I'd have to say good job Syrup on this one. It's not easy to get around being killed in 3 hits against the top Kazuya player.

[@BigAP219]

The commentating at the the beginning was funny asl they low key was beefing

[@noemoreno7894]

Riddles needs to calm tf down

[@Kanoog]

4:32 Impressive but let me return the favor 14:16

[@skylerhickman3646]

For once Im happy to see a ness win

[@Aflay1]

, Incinaroar 🤝 Kazuya Happily body children

[@protonjones54]

Damn this Ness is 🔥

[@trentonx]

Itslike impossible to dind moregames in the set

[@Dai3eb]

Another example of Riddles not adapting.

[@Umbra_Nocturnus]

Wow, Syrup's not nessing around

[@nathanmolina3256]

10:12 RIP NESS

[@McEezy94]

Riddles fights like he hates his opponents

[@blaakmage]

Syrup playing like a god

[@Michael-cg5qn]

LETS GOOOO SYRUP. GET HIM OUTTA HERE

[@fesho6370]

came for child abuse, 10 seconds in and I already got satisfaction

[@treflips2158]

There in lies the problem with Kazuya, Riddles was missing a lot of EWGF inputs.

[@jasonlobo2350]

He doesnt Miss, ewgf out of grabs whiff on certain characters ness being one of them

[@GiliAguilar]

what a great fight!

[@SPMask]

End of game 3, my dood Riddles did a low blow to that littlw boy.

[@intellectualblackking162]

Maaaaaan riddles tried to big brother syrup 🤣🤣🤣 booooy ain’t no way ain’t no way he came out like he did them first 2 games 😂😂😂

[@eyedropsimulator]

ban kazuya

[@jerrdnn61]

HOW DID NO ONE COMMENT ON THIS OMG!!!

[@jafet0022]

Ikr, Best match ever

[@theexaltedlt8222]

It was just uploaded

[@alvaropinilla8639]

So glad syrup's Ness ended up winning. Can't stand kazuya

[@BBB-pe3ip]

Why?

[@theexaltedlt8222]

Ness is cringe

[@alvaropinilla8639]

@@theexaltedlt8222 if saying that makes you feel self-confidence, I'm not gonna stop you

[@gv82089]

I mean, Ness is just as annoying lol

[@thehwtw71]

Cool ness!

[@pennycarvalho1223]

i dont respect ness players who spam

[@Kiwi_The_Furry]

Tbh bro idgaf who says what I will never ever in my life respect a ness player there all just annoying and they’ve ruined the character by doing what they always do

[@AlaskaBoyAlex]

sad that they got such a shit commentator for this, the other one (you know who) was just leagues ahead

[@DUCKSWAYBOBWEAVE]

Hard to watch. Riddles is absolutely skilled, he can only mature from here. Those down smashes were over extended.

[@JLjler]

Que vrguiza

[@name-tx5qu]

Ngl I thought kazuya was going to be better and even learned him but now that I actually see kazuya in action he doesn't look like the monster I envisioned I thought he would be like diddy

[@gv82089]

@TatSx ok random guy on a yt comment section

[@schnibist]

Riddles is CARRIED

[@samsalon4202]

lol

[@jerrdnn61]

Syrup dominating the last round for a game set match!!! Riddles just couldn't keep up with the pressure, as syrup looked patient yet quick to deliver blow after blow. This set was amazing, GG to both. Man I love this game!!!

[@yxolyr]

YEAHHHH SYRUPPP WOOOOOO