LMBM 2023 Top 8 - MkLeo (Joker) Vs. Tweek (Diddy Kong) SSBU Ultimate Tournament

[@vgbootcamp]

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[@leafy2797]

22:32 Leo’s reaction! He probably said “okay that was nice” Idk if it’s just me but during this set Leo was smiling a lot, he was enjoying the game, he was having fun, even Leo said he sees tweek as his rival. I love to watch these 2 play c:

[@xviinaichi3793]

Nah fr that exactly sells their rivalry. Their dynamic and you can clearly can tell they respect eachother allot as competitors

[@Nehiel17]

Back in smash 4 he said tweek was his demon, idk why people are so surprised. Leo wasnt wrong

[@Luis-ub9mg]

Bro the shit that happened right there was so garbage he was prolly annoyed as hell

[@nathanlevesque7812]

@@Luis-ub9mg literally smiling

[@toxiclightning5303]

@@Luis-ub9mg how was that garbage? He down tilted into a banana peel, that was his own fault.

[@PuppetMasterIX]

14:29 Actually wild that Tweek survived this.

[@masonc66789]

yeah, i think any stage without a wall to ride diddy dies here.. its usually SO bad to get hit out of barrels, excellent presence of mind here

[@redwiz2144]

Tweeks combo at 22:27 was insanity. He was pinpoint accurate on his reactions. Tweeks Diddy has truly evolved.

[@abcrasshadow9341]

It was all done from a z-catch fumble which is unfortunate for Leo but a super stylish punish and chase from Tweek.

[@NinjaKiero]

Even Leo in the camera was like "Jesus Christ, man..."

[@TheCHEESE333]

amazing play. i watched it on hungrybox's stream and he lost his shit after seeing that

[@Luis-ub9mg]

Idk man i think it was more of a panic scramble in that situation just spamming banana throw and dtilt Pretty sure i have done the sams sequence before

[@jontaii152]

@@Luis-ub9mg I’m sure most players have done the same sequence as a pro at one point what’s your point

[@l.n.3372]

We've seen this Tweek vs Leo matchup so many times with so many different characters. Only recently, it was Diddy vs Byleth/Pyra. Now, Diddy vs Joker. Will always be a classic no matter the characters used by them.

[@inmybestdaysidontdocrack]

Tweek has finally beaten Leo’s Joker. Also Sparg0, Leo and Tweek might just be the best 3 again.

[@rainharrison7735]

@@inmybestdaysidontdocrack they definitely are. I was just saying that myself.

[@mrjollyguy25]

@@inmybestdaysidontdocrack Probably, though can't forget acola. I think those 4 are undisputed top 4 right now, kind of hard to order them.

[@Xainlrd]

Probably because Leo is a loser that just uses the OP DLC characters. This was a joy to see Leo bodied

[@siddshivakumar9008]

@@Xainlrd Yea a loser like you who just blames him for being the best in smash lol

[@theothernodude3139]

There’s a point in Smash matchups where it becomes less about trying to beat the crap outta each other and more of a genuine game of chess.

[@johnasamoah8668]

Exactly and we can tell at the start of game 1 with Leo having so much percentage in tweek. The way they were playing was so safe because if one of them gets just one combo starter, easily 40% or more. It’s nuts.

[@hwangseungmin6413]

Tweek Leo sets always hit different 👌👌😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@bendbzs8023]

Tweek beats Leo convincingly but Leo just smiles and acknowledges Tweeks skill when he loses a stock. Leo is such a great and wholesome player

[@requestofficial]

Lol it’s cuz he’s high

[@czyu3361]

@@requestofficial Not this again

[@requestofficial]

@@czyu3361 look at his player came the whole set.. “🥴😵‍💫😵😂”

[@lashen4129]

@@requestofficial you are so weird lol.

[@RedDenim]

@@requestofficial everyone that's too young doesn't understand lool

[@vin9235]

Tweek is just pushing Diddy to another level in all fronts: recovery, combos, neutral, kill confirms, shield pressure, oos... what an insane showcase of the character

[@MaximeFrjq]

These two keep pumping out classics

[@onetakehoovie5955]

SPOILER ALERT: I dont really watch a ton of ultimate but I always watch Tweek v. Leo because it is such a great rivalry and great play between these two as always. Wish it went to game 5 but tweek's diddy is just too good

[@SparkyForce]

Big fan of the spoiler warning, but I hope you know that the first line of the paragraph isn’t hidden. Not a problem here just wanted to avoid any awkward situations in the future where you think it’s hidden but somebody gets spoiled anyway lol

[@onetakehoovie5955]

@@SparkyForce thanks for the heads up

[@loveandalchemy]

Two hypest character player combinations hands-down

[@flamingoflyer8009]

Tweek Leo’d Leo. I don’t know how exactly to describe it, but it felt like Tweek was in control of the set almost the entire time. Game 4 Tweek went superhuman!

[@antoniovillanueva1119]

I'm sure that heartbreaking loss from 4 years ago was fueling him.

[@FirstLastname604]

Leo will have used the entire smash roster against Tweek by the year 2026

[@dripfoe_3307]

Yeah, it's a wrap. Leo needs to just get better but before that he needs to realize that nobody stays number 1 forever. Once he no longer feels the pressure of being number 1 then I think he'll start playing more comfortably.

[@morningcoffee4384]

Funny since it was Tweek the one changing characters trying to crack the Joker back in 2019, going from Wario to Roy to Joker to PT to Wolf.

[@danielgonzalez6518]

@@dripfoe_3307 i felt the same, sort of like he doesn't feel the need to grind because he's won everything and has a lack of ambition. the joker was definitely not up to his standard, but he'll get there

[@dripfoe_3307]

@@danielgonzalez6518 I honestly think that was some of the cleanest Joker play, especially those gun conversion which is stuff he didn't do before, nobody did because nobody knew gun was that good. It seems as though Joker oos isn't that great, especially against Diddy. I hope Leo digs deep and really finds what he's looking for, because I know he can do better, if not Diddy is rrally that top tier like the Japanese have been saying.

[@deleonfountain8220]

@@dripfoe_3307 “Leo needs to just get better” you realize what you’re saying or???

[@xxvolcomxx56]

Leo is a master class of exhibiting sportsmanship

[@CaptainFracture]

By being a normal person? Why you dick riding him doing the bare minimum that most players do 💀

[@xxvolcomxx56]

@@CaptainFracture Does it make you feel better spreading toxicity on the internet. Why do you have a problem with fans complimenting their favorite players?

[@octaviodelbarrio]

21:08 omfg leo did the evo 2019 roll read (against tweek in grand finals) and he literally had it if he did it a little bit faster. Incredible set by both players

[@RedDenim]

@@fatboyz3929 my thoughts exact

[@khyrongrant2510]

@@fatboyz3929 he has practiced joker

[@Ssolar0]

@@khyrongrant2510I do think regular practice is different from using solo joker for the first time in a while. Especially when the first tournament back is a super major

[@khyrongrant2510]

@@fatboyz3929 im pretty sure when he said he was going joker again he was practicing

[@khyrongrant2510]

@@Ssolar0 what do you mean regulard practice? im sure he is practicing with top players

[@spiritualak5147]

Dam tweek is insane when he threw that banana at the ledge and regrabbed it I was like wtf 🥶

[@TONyjustRoCks]

Not saying Joker is a bad character, but I've always thought the Arsene meter nerf for damage taken was pretty significant and nobody mentions it. I think it shows clearly in this set.

[@hwanniggles187]

To me, the Down Air Gun nerf was what really hit Joker hard more than the Arsene nerf. D-Air Gun was stupid broken when stage spiking was guaranteed

[@likenoother6561]

it just brought him down from being very good to very good.

[@militarygradepotato]

Any nerf joker has gotten is negligible, the real nerf is people not getting so tilted by arsene anymore because there is worse cheese

[@mrjollyguy25]

@@militarygradepotato The meta evolving to making Arsene not so intimidating definitely hurts Joker, but part of that is also the nerf that Arsene disappears faster now (as he should) if you keep successfully hitting him. The Eiha end lag nerf also somewhat hampers Joker's (still amazing) zoning capabilities.

[@nydeity9100]

Arsene is broken.

[@sailgoat4733]

I'm extremely impressed with how composed Tweek has become, this tournament really showed it. One of the most talented players to ever hold a controller and it seems like he's finally getting over mental barriers, you love to see it

[@HitPeace]

Ultimate has such a deep lore. Gotta love seeing this matchup.

[@imnotapathy]

That add after game 1 killed my hype

[@elgo93]

Yeah I wish there was an easy way to fast forward

[@imnotapathy]

@@elgo93 at least categorize the video so we can see where the ad ends

[@militarygradepotato]

Game 2 sfar 10:53

[@Moegivesmelife]

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[@Jfoltz39]

22:55 “what’s in that hat?” Is so funny lmao

[@iamabigboyhaha]

Damn, I was cheering for Leo the whole game, but Tweek’s DK combos have gotten so good… this really is the year of Tweek

[@st.toussaint4632]

This aged poorly.

[@AviorGloria]

@@st.toussaint4632 How

[@retierashia]

Looks like Tweek’s practice is paying off

[@jakestout5489]

22:27 was nuts

[@delitatactics6721]

Tweek going full mastered ultra instinct on Leo

[@simonanderson4858]

We've been waiting for this match up for so long. People thought we might finally see it at Smash Summit 3. That was August 2021!

[@kevinli717]

why are ppl booing this is optimal gameplay from both amazing players

[@ghoulrunnings]

not booing, its the "TWEEEEEK" chant the commentators did at summit5

[@TheCHEESE333]

they are chanting tweek's name, i thought it was booing as well when i first heared it ;D

[@surdine6671]

It was the crowd saying “Tweeeeeek”, it’s a tri state tournament so they were rooting for Tweek.

[@firewall5189]

el clasico 👌 Really wish we could have gotten a game 5, i was hyped the whole set

[@kennyg2610]

This was like seeing Obi Wan fight Anakin. So happy for Tweek!!

[@mylastnamescox]

Bro so many comments on a video that just came out. Everyone was just waiting for this lol

[@GLOCRIVERS2900]

Been a diddy main now for a min but Watching tweak just reminds me of the untapped potential I have with this character. #TWEAAAK

[@bellamiepeterson620]

Leo played great still, it’s just crazy that this didn’t go to game 5 and the anathema set did! ( Tweeks favorite matchup in the game. ) What a timeline!

[@santiagogarcilazo1431]

If i'm being honest, i can't remember the last time leo won against tweek, he has at least 7 or 8 consecutive losses to tweek since last year

[@surdine6671]

He hasn’t beaten him since Riptide 2021. Which was Early September 2021. Tweek has beaten Leo 4 times since.

[@kavonsamadi8418]

Wow tweek best recovery I've ever seen in a setting like this!! Great game play too, keep crushin foos!

[@sergiooliva2517]

Now that arsen vanishes faster when Joker gets hit, you can tell the difference vs when arsen lasted longer, tweek is the best!

[@danielx1224]

I can't remember the last time Leo beat Tweek

[@lol1013]

I think everybody remembers frostbite lol

[@albertseldon4974]

Riptide

[@huangnguyen9529]

Riptide 2021. Tweek been destroying Leo since

[@Barca864]

Leo still best player in the world, asshole

[@takeiteasy1133]

@@lol1013 xd

[@xoonn9]

So happy for tweek beating joker game 4 leo! Leo is still the best but there is a fine line between healthy and unhealthy confidence. I feel Leo has to realize that being the best is something that is won everyday

[@ninjaoflight908]

Tweek just slayed Game 4 Joker Leo. Let that sink in.

[@peytonbond4886]

I know people said “wow, there’s no rust on this Joker” but at the end of the day, it’s Leo’s Joker’s first tournament back, it’s not adjusted yet. If he sticks with Joker, he’ll be taking a few tournaments within the month after he adjusts to the meta with his Joker.

[@peytonbond4886]

Also, I want to see Leo work on his banana peel usage, because Tweek was giving it to him a lot

[@skii7774]

EVEN LEOS JOKER CANT BEAT TWEEKS TALKING BING CHILLING DIDDY KONG

[@cooper1431]

banana

[@kestrelynn]

Leo hasn't beaten tweek since riptide 2021, That's insane! I can't wait till Leo's back on top but I love seeing tweek on top form like this

[@rm13201]

If tweek or spargo keep dominating like they are rn, they could be the goats of ultimate along with leo

[@firewall5189]

theyd need multiple years of utter dominance to be contenders for the title of greatest of all time lol. current best, theyre just about there already. goat is a term that should be used far less lightly.

[@pbp2906]

@@firewall5189 coincido contigo, solo leo se puede llevar ese nombre

[@rm13201]

@@firewall5189 yes, thats why I said they could be, they need to have that dominance that leo had these last few years but we’ll see

[@TunaSubAlert]

If there were to be a smash ultimate mount Rushmore showing the four greats throughout the entirety of ultimate's lifespan, Leo and Tweek would definitely be on there. The other two heads are to hard to determine imo, there's too many good options but spargo is probably up there.

[@oscar5012]

wow, not only has tweek recently 3-0’d Leo but now he’s beaten the game 4 Leo on his joker! Leo was playing kinda rough but maybe it’s just tweek showing the difference between them

[@xanander4693]

I think Leo was playing rough bc he hasn’t played Joker at a tournament in a while and Joker is a character that’s very hard to pick up again.

[@oscar5012]

@@xanander4693 I heard he’s been playing him offline on the side but also whenever he plays against Dabuz and in a crew battle he did. his joker didn’t play that well today though for sure

[@nydeity9100]

Stop insulting Tweak and his win. It wasn’t cuz Leo wasn’t doing great, he won because he played better than Leo.

[@WypsotorNyloff]

Just here for the Leo vs Tweek set that happens sometimes in majors

[@Cozmix-7]

I just got that “who do you think you are I am-“ reference at ~21:35 Love me some absolutely cultured commentators XD

[@osalmaag_o-S]

Would've been epic that Twerk drawn Poke just for nostalgia

[@Real_temmie_undertalo]

TWERK- 💀

[@spiritualak5147]

@@Real_temmie_undertalo 💀

[@AsmitaElric]

Unfortunately, whoever had the super smart idea of forcing the advertisement in the middle of match, killed the excitement of seeing who will win. Whoever is ahead at game 3, will win the match. Bad decisions By the way, I’m downloading Flash Party, but not from this link just because of that. Directly from the App Store

[@AsmitaElric]

@@factandsuspicionpodcast2727 Exactly. It is ridiculous! That greedy attitude it is absolutely disappointing

[@SN-gv9zw]

y’all realize VGBC actually needs the money right? after the SWT cancellation, glitch and double down were both cancelled bc the the channel/org could be in jeopardy entirely. ludwig’s scuffed world tour was literally held as a fundraiser for VGBC. I agree that the ad is pretty long and takes me out of the viewing experience but it’s not greed in any way

[@AsmitaElric]

@@SN-gv9zw It is greed in all sense. Justified or not. But it will hurt more than anything. In my case, I just stopped watching the videos, which is less views for them and hurt them, and I know for a fact, I'm not the only one. If they need to make money, they could be smarter than this.

[@SN-gv9zw]

can’t @ both of you but I never justified the ad being 4 minutes long, I even said that the ad is too lengthy and will take people out of the video. my point was that VGBC desperately needs the sponsorship money because they as an org and channel could be in serious danger of shutting down

[@SN-gv9zw]

@@AsmitaElric specifically replying to you for this one because you realize ‘greed’ would mean that VGBC would’ve always been grubbing for more money with sponsored ads from a long time, right? it’s not greed because they’re only doing it as of late and out of necessity.

[@ribeserythrocarpum918]

22:28 the ankle breaker

[@Ick.-]

Excellent commentary, excellent gameplay and storyline. This is a classic set.

[@elchupacabra1406]

Yo how about the Leo Wolf tho lol, kinda funny how Diddy actually beats all of Leo's characters right now

[@RedDenim]

Dude both of them mixed tf out of each other

[@krontexpit]

14:28 the wildest recovery ever

[@TunaSubAlert]

That game 4 man, tweek is a machine

[@Jero1020]

Best rivalry since Goku/Vegeta I mean tweek even keeping track of the SSY form for us. Nothing like a good anime.

[@johnsoncats504]

Banger set. Commentator sounds like Anders Holm

[@Contrary22]

They wanted the Leo Joker. And it did not hold up. So now, hopefully, the Joker will go back on the bench.

[@michaelhagen4610]

Leo gets 4th with a rusty Joker against the best in the world and it's time to give up? Adapting is a myth I guess...

[@dantecv5380]

10:24 skip ad

[@wawazawi]

Now that was some good smashy bros

[@Troy270]

Mi dream Leo's Joker vs Tweek's Pokémon Trainer:(

[@lukraniom8731]

Love tweek. He’s probably my fav player next to marss

[@BolaOver9000]

I always knew Tweek could beat Leo since evo 2019. But ggs to both I will always respect and appreciate Leo's sportsmanship. Both godlike players for sure

[@SShaBazzz]

Yo, we officially have a three way deadlock. I believe that Tweek, Spargo, and MKLeo are the three best players in the world in smash. And they have a deadlock. Tweek beats MKleo MKLeo beats Spargo Spargo beats Tweek.

[@maxs.6517]

acola

[@kajin2422]

THATS WHAT I FIGURED TD LOLOL

[@SShaBazzz]

@Max S. acola is great, don't get me wrong. Just from what I see, Yweek, Leo, and Spargo are the top3. A tier under them would be Riddles, Onion, Acola, Gluttony, Light.

[@GioHimonPro]

@@SShaBazzz Japan bonus. No other region gets so much wank.

[@maxs.6517]

@@SShaBazzz honestly love that they’re at the top, watching Leo joker vs tweek diddy made me so happy man

[@ajoker960]

I find it hilarious that Leo has struggled with both of the monkeys across smash 4 and ultimate

[@spiritualak5147]

One thing I noticed is that Leo wasn’t really edge guarding tweek like that. I assume it’s from fear of getting banana z dropped or down throw banana in to a spike Leo probably has nightmares of that ish

[@cooperm4185]

He tried it a couple times, Diddy is just really hard to gimp. In game 2 for instance Tweek Monkey Flips into a wall cling at the bottom of PS2 in order to recover.

[@odstagent1070]

Wait, was this a Top 8 and not even finals? Man, that was insane, gotta breath fresh air

[@oscarcalles4117]

Hey guys it’s VG bootcamps very own Logic here.

[@sandersirpa8391]

Recuerdo ver este torneo en vivo, no puedo creer que ya hayan pasado 5 meses, pasé todo un semestre de la U.

[@flamingfury287]

"The best in the world" bro he was even tryharding lmaooo 😂

[@luceskywalker716]

Everytime when I think these pro players are already bring out the full potential of a character, they manage to surpass that even more.

[@mundo_top]

Tweek is inhuman with the banana.

[@Walufkinblast]

XDDDDDD

[@bidoofftw]

Tweek is such an insane player

[@rickdawn5682]

So is yo mom she did the whole team💀

[@transformerssurprise7563]

I think Tween can change his tag to Version 5 after this set. I really feel like he transformed. That last game really felt like Goku going super sayin. Actually Gokus name is WuKong in chinese. Wu is five and he played Diddy Kong. So if it was the fifth version of his Diddy you could say it was WuKong. So he really must be a super sayin.

[@pierce3622]

Amazing set. This rivalry is crazy!

[@christopherrodriguez3646]

Mkleo smiles as he gets bodied @22:30

[@dripfoe_3307]

Yeah Tweek has Leo's number. As much as it pains me to say it but I think that's it folks. The gap between Leo and other top players is no longer huge. Leo needs to buckle down, stop worrying about being number 1, put in the work and most importantly just play and have fun. I think we're gonna see a Tweek and Sparg0 arc, where Leo is still gonna place well but not win when he feels like it. I bet when the weight of being number 1 is lifted off his shoulders, he's gonna start playing better.

[@emergencelive6194]

Sparg0 the Gohan of Ultimate Leo the Goku

[@dripfoe_3307]

@@emergencelive6194 Simply Perfect 👌.

[@Ktoe13]

mfs say this everytime then he wins from losers the next tournament ☠️

[@emergencelive6194]

@@Ktoe13 Idk why ppl sleep on Leo

[@zMoirax]

Ludwig was pretty recent, do you realise? You’re over exaggerating lol

[@edsantosc]

I really enjoy how Tweek plays way more than Leo. It's so entertaining!

[@ひで-t1m]

tweekやっぱ対leoうますぎ

[@nadieimportante9119]

someone put the timer for skip the ad for game 2

[@V1ktorVaughn]

I can confirm, big moves were made

[@L3thalShad0ws7]

And to think Leo came up playing against ZeRo's Diddy Kong, but Ig Tweek is just different🤷‍♂🥶

[@Yunidude]

Tweek's composure is so impressive...

[@emptybodyfm]

I remember the time Leo talked to tweek via the name change asking for the dK that was just so weak atlest leo now takes it like a man

[@sionbarzad5371]

Leo's Joker gathered some dust and it shows vs 1st caliber adversaries like Tweek! GG

[@Nutles212]

It is a fact that currently Leo's Byleth is his strongest doll.

[@macroglossumstellatarum3068]

Hey guys it’s me VGDB Logitech here, just reminding you now that this ad break is a great time to hit the 🍃 pen again. Have a nice day

[@Livinglikelary97]

Tweeks diddy is just different

[@b2e297]

tweek talks leo listens is too much lmao

[@vndrwP]

This set was fkn amazing

[@unlmtdsam]

Tweek might not be the current best player itw but I truly think he has the highest peak. When he is on he is basically unstoppable

[@drewboden6981]

Literally the Goku and Vegeta of Ultimate

[@ConejoZing]

None of that malarkey here, sir. Seriously Tweek on coffee clinic.

[@respinoza89]

14:31 ultra instinct activated

[@Geozone117]

Clowns really be overhyping joker.

[@cesarreinoso2203]

Nooooo way😂😂😂😂. Tween legs were shaking like a blender

[@AroundWayOther]

fantastic set!!

[@SaladinLeo]

Starting to think PandaGlobal was right with these stupid VGBC ads lol

[@DavionLane]

Why not play the ad at the beginning

[@sayoto2ch1123]

異次元すぎる😂

[@アボカドベジー]

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