Shine 2017 Smash 4 - P1 | Tweek (DK) Vs. FOX MVG | MKLeo (Corrin, Bayo, TLink) - WiiU LQ

[@Teck_Leon]

Magically, this set was recommended to me after watching the most recent Tweek Talks featuring Leo huh

[@krdp7240]

same

[@elitheman11steelers]

Same

[@galahadino4017]

Same

[@DaydreamerDex]

same

[@nuttywaif6058]

Yup

[@DairInNeutral]

The fact I got this recommended after Tweek Talks is beautiful

[@kyallon1213]

Leo really begged tweek to pick a top tier omg that was hilarious

[@planeador_]

- PLS CLOUD - NO :)!!!!! - :( And the smashie to the 'Best Conversation of the Year' goes to...

[@Shaheemswaggedout]

Pablo González cheesy

[@dgraxel]

best anime betrayal

[@XoneIsACoolDude]

I'm not gonna lie, that last stock was a heartbreaker.

[@XoneIsACoolDude]

Also, PLS CLOUD :(

[@BlazeTC]

Same lmao

[@fupalover]

This was recommended after watching Tweek Talks. Wft KZbin?

[@zandark5045]

Bruh, Google is fucking scary, just watched the last Tweek talks and now It reccomends me this💀

[@milkyway9413]

Pls cloud, Leo makes me laugh

[@ryngtolu4334]

No :)!!!!!!

[@ckirby3945]

:(

[@grantdong5333]

Wait, was he saying "Please Cloud" as in praying that his cloud will win, or is he just asking Tweek to please play cloud?

[@DapuffStuff]

Imperialdramon He was asking Tweek to go Cloud since he feels more comfortable vs his Cloud than his DK

[@morganthatcher4917]

Leo understands the pain all of us sword mains go through when we have to play a grab character :(

[@sevenharmon6394]

Swordies don't lose to DK. We just have to think and anticipate instead of whiffing hitboxes like we can do against short range characters.

[@morganthatcher4917]

Seven Harmon A lot of us agree swordies lose to Heavies and the percents for use to get Grabbed by DK and Bowser are pretty large. Me personally I hate spacing around DK and Bowser with Marth no less only to get grabbed and die within 2-3 grabs. And I play incredibly patiently but no matter who you are its impossible to play perfectly to prevent a grab

[@Ani-Albanian]

oh yeah all that range must be painful

[@AshtonWinters]

i would never use my marth vs dk lol that MU is trash unless you literally dont lose neutral against someone with the same range as you

[@sevenharmon6394]

Young Thanatos The matchup is entirely possible. They have the same range but heavies typically suck at landing and are very easy to shut down at the ledge. Sure we die early but we keep them in disadvantage.

[@IWish2500]

Leo's starting to make Anti's whole cast-playing game look kinda weak

[@cooper1431]

Brian Stewart he didn't play bad, the fact was that DK is troll lmao

[@funjukebox1324]

I don't know lol. Anti is legit with everyone haha

[@IckyStickyRicky123]

making it look weak when he only took 1 game off tweek? hmm

[@kurnte]

Anti's characters are weak besides his Mario and ZSS

[@toxiclightning5303]

Pablo Escobar ANTi's Cloud and Zard are pretty good

[@HaeriTheThird]

5:26 Stop Leo, you're not CaptainZack

[@rflowers360]

Crazy how Tweek and Leo switched winning records in different games lol.

[@cheers9430]

i mean, their post quarantine set count is tweek favored. so it goes... tweek double eliminated leo at summit 3 (2-0 tweek) into leo double eliminated tweek at riptide the following weekend (2-2) into tweek winning at collision and subsequently winning at summit 5 (4-2 tweek favored)

[@nathaniel6068]

@@cheers9430 now tweek just beat him again at scuffed world tour

[@cheers9430]

@@nathaniel6068 its dominant

[@Walufkinblast]

@@nathaniel6068 tweek it's my boyfriend ok bro?

[@dourix3708]

Following tweek since SM4SH, so good to come back to this, no rivalry like this one tweek vs mkleo sets were so effin sweaty man!

[@mysticsquirtle5109]

How many people came here after Tweek talks

[@novanecros9145]

I mean, I know ma boi Leo was depressed after getting rekt for the umpteenth time by ZeRo, but did he really just taunt with bayo, go full for Glory and then try Toon Link? damn boi on a completely unrelated note, I've never laughed so much during a set in my life

[@echo69286]

How does this get recommended to me THE DAY I watch the new tweek talks episode💀

[@toffee781]

Wow this got recommended to me after the Tweek Talks with MKLeo talking about this same set. KZbin be scary bro.

[@brycenb2994]

Can we all agree the only reason this is in anyones recommended is because of the most recent tweak talk podcast

[@rafisdead]

well thanks for the recommendation now i don't have to look for the set they talked about on tweek talks 😂

[@noxultionis3851]

Since when did Leo use Toon Link

[@icebear6757]

leo please don't go bayo ever again lol

[@buizelfan418]

Why shouldn't he if he need to?

[@gxstly]

Tweek is good against Bayonetta though since his best friend is a Bayonetta main.

[@AlainReyes]

his bayo was good(not great) but against Tweek's DK is just a suicide

[@damage1387]

HIs Bayo lacked extended combos but he was pretty good about not SD after using his specials like many other bayo mains do

[@chidchid4381]

Tweek also has a Bayo (but so do a lot of top players)

[@ayase2992]

Leo's getting his sweet revenge at ultimate

[@kakarotlovesgames6962]

So I see you in came back to see the improvement in mk leo as well?

[@agentglowstick8704]

This is why he reverse 3-0s him every set

[@omegalilbchass8270]

@@agentglowstick8704 he hasn't been doing that recently

[@rayless]

@@omegalilbchass8270 Mhm.

[@Qman716]

leo has a toon link??

[@crzymnky47]

Qwannery I Guess?

[@Annihilatedd]

Tweek talks with Leo took me here :)

[@KaigeLePudding]

EXPANSION Man Tweek's DK makes me so happy and hyped everytime i watch it

[@greenamogus]

When he said "PLS CLOUD" was he asking Tweek to go Cloud? Also, why did Leo not pick his Cloud after losing the first game?

[@sebastianlara2690]

Andrés Dashie because last time Tweek went DK Leo didn't enjoy it in the slightest. It seems Leo doesn't only lose to heavy weights, he feels bad playing them.

[@milkywayflea404]

..did Leo get training from Hyuga? Or was this something he was preparing for a while?

[@colbyhill25]

Milky Way Flea lol no. That was very clearly an FG style of Tink. Not Hyuga.

[@fincost3001]

Red Dischord idk looked Abit the same , maybe that's just all link/toon link play style

[@macmazi36]

Leo just needs to focus on 2 or 3 characters. I feel that now he is becoming way more inconsistent with picking to many characters. Have him pick 3 to really commit to and he will be better of.f

[@braintrope4736]

jhonxiolon But then he would've had to deal with Tweek's Counter-Picks.

[@ShinyKelp]

Does MK beat the grapplers? How so? (just curious)

[@sebastianlara2690]

chibinojose tbh I don't think these "pockets" got more than 3 FG matches spent at all

[@lordofskin]

Sebastián Lara actually, his corrin is monstrously good

[@starleov]

agree

[@ezkillerssb348]

I just found it funny when MKLeo ran out of DLC's. XD

[@sebastianlara2690]

EZKillerSSB Leo Ryu when?

[@PremixedDoge]

I knew from the title when i saw all the character switches the Tweek was going to win

[@BlastPKMN]

KZbin algorithm got me f'd with this after just watching Tweek Talks

[@dreadfury2485]

Leo really needs to work on beating the heavies. Bowser and DK put him on tilt big-time.

[@sidneyhinds869]

Why didn't Leo choose Cloud so he could win against Tweeks Dk ?

[@kingofstuff8148]

Sidney Hinds because cloud gets grabbed 3 times and dies :]

[@EJJTheMiner]

I thought Bayo was a easy cheat character Leo?

[@maddox9511]

Everyone knows Leo can't play without a sword character. Bayo is still dumb

[@between_mistral_and_mahrinui]

ShakeItLikeMichelleObama marth and corrin are dumb characters? ok

[@ryngtolu4334]

Is not the first time he use Bayo against Tweek. Even last time he did not ended well, idk what he was thinking...

[@ubadman1]

Ryng Tolu but "bayo carries players" KZbin, Reddit scrubs always tell me that so it must be true.

[@DefinitelyNotJespin]

Idk, man. The math isnt wrong. Cheap/easy character that carries player + Top 5 player in the world should equal "EZ Win"

[@ubadman1]

That was almost as bad as Mr. R bayo. Almost.

[@Sabbathfaax]

ubadman1 damn I wish it was still almost that bad

[@errikutarantino6019]

wanted to see a cloud ditto :(

[@echospace7347]

6:30 LMAO THATS GENIUS

[@unknown_beatkilla9813]

He can't choose or play cloud?!

[@cullenhutchison6528]

It's almost like school is stressing out Leo or something.

[@Inosculated]

Dang anybody here after Hot Juan’s?

[@Kason76]

Yeah that guy is messed up

[@AlainReyes]

Zero sending Leo to losers - Check Tweek eliminating Leo - Check he needs to overcome those two players or Zero is going to keep getting free wins

[@mixa2482]

MKLeo playing Bayo, so it has finally come to this.

[@ivanzamorano2628]

Mixa2 Your point is...? He lost that match HARD

[@mixa2482]

MKLeo is mainly known for his swordfighters, he's just one of the last persons I'd imagine trying to resort to Bayo.

[@jcastYT]

Seems like Leo didnt care about the tourney anymore.

[@albertvalentine2373]

Yup

[@novanecros9145]

I get him, I can actually relate to his sudden depression after being beaten by ZeRo... again

[@redrose70]

Plexus he just lost let's just give the win to Tweek and stop making excuses for him

[@thewaterman122]

Tweek is Leo's bracket nightmare

[@zaaya7719]

Now its the other way around lol

[@MrCalexv12]

5:56 1 and a half year later this is still relevant! xD

[@Megaguris100]

It really astonishes me how Leo can play so many characters at a top level. Props to Tweek for 3-0ing someone he's had somewhat of a problem with though.

[@stupidkirbyfan6615]

Wrath He doesnt have a problem with Leo

[@musashi7070]

@@stupidkirbyfan6615 this didn’t age well

[@kingofpancakes1278]

@@musashi7070 yeah man, Leo has come a long way. he’s a real diff beast now

[@cooperm4185]

​@@musashi7070 this comment aged poorly too. Tweek is Leo's bracket demon again

[@LocsPapi8910]

I like Leo. But he is running out of espadas.....

[@williamgrace7676]

This is a psa for all comment sections featuring a bayo loss. Yes, people seem to think it's a clear indicator that she's not that good of a character. Yes, those people are ignoring something else about the situation that is the actual explanation for bayo losing. No, it's not worth arguing. (side note: the extenuating circumstances, in this case, are the fact that Leo is by no means a bayo main nor is he all that well versed in the DK matchup)

[@fincost3001]

Okay we all know Leo's bayo suck but why he ever think about going bayo against dk? She stuggles against grab combo characters

[@damage1387]

fin cost she juggles him really hard and DK has a hard time SDI-ing out of her combos. Leo's problem was using WT as a panic option. He got grabbed every time.

[@zaaya7719]

DK was not a losing matchup at all for bayo lolol

[@heavystorming]

Only real ones realized that, leo does no have respect for tweek.

[@heavystorming]

Leo was not scare, just disappointed

[@sidneyhinds869]

That's what I was thinking, but he got bodied for it the entire time lol

[@heavystorming]

Sidney Hinds deep deep down, far far in, you wil be able to see through

[@Forkontheleft]

i love these matchups with lower tier characters like dk

[@timon4339]

Dk isn't low tier

[@misho1614]

Donkey Kong is my main and Toon Link is my second main.

[@Badkitty239]

I am baffled at Leos Bayonetta, but then again 5.99 to win LUL

[@jimniexperience3591]

With that conversation , Tweek admitted Leo is the better Cloud ("No Ditto Pls")

[@kaded_]

No it didn't lol, it just showed that Tweek was comfortable with his DK.

[@edDbalaM]

nahh tweek show he is afraid to get 3-0 again LMAO

[@LordKai1102]

I think he is the better cloud too, but you see that he isn't afraid. He knows that DK is gonna send 3-0s back at Leo. It's like "yeah my match up is good - let's go" I used to play yoshi a lot - and cloud is a terrible match up...so I switch to Zss or even Marth to take a better match up.

[@edDbalaM]

LordKai1102 no boy, even javi destroy tweek cloud on civil ward lmao, and he can't beat komo cloud too,,, plus his dubs performance is not in the same level like leo or komo.. leo almost win g4 and umebura with solo cloud except final

[@LordKai1102]

Stop calling someone boy, I'm 25 already. I already said that I think Leo is the better Cloud, but Tweek isn't afraid. Now please to learn reading and get off, "boy".

[@nonplayercharacter12333]

Ding-Dong, the Witch is dead.

[@焼きたこ-u1q]

この頃まだスキンヘッドじゃなかったんや

[@rasheedserroukh4925]

Mk leo needs to stick to one main. Stop trying to counter pick

[@kingofstuff8148]

Rasheed Serroukh why?

[@starleov]

I think Marth or Mk is a good choice against DK. But it is a rally bad idea to use a lot of characters. Just 2 - 4, nothing more.

[@CaptainFalchion]

Haha, Tweek went DK since he first beat Leo with DK

[@scrumptious6607]

Pls Cloud

[@laurents4015]

As soon as I saw the character list and the time I knew the result of the match SPOILER ALERT At least Tweek came back in that last match by a beautifull edgeguard and by Ding dong GG for the 3-0 keep it going with the yeti my boy

[@MrMorgoth1992]

Taunt to get bodieddd.

[@mexicanmuslim]

Leo just has a hard time against bowser and dk, heavywieghts! His playstyle is countered by the moveset of heavywieghts. MkLeo at most times does outplay tweek and nairo, BUT The comeback factor with heavywieghts is real. They are to strong, and Leo cant handle that at Top level. Even though MkLeo got beat by tweek mkLeo is still the number 1 player in the world.

[@morganthatcher4917]

love leo but he's been moved down to top 5. Zero Salem Nairo is undeniable rn

[@braintrope4736]

Draco Pheonix lol has he won 2 S Tiers this season yet? No? Oh right, only ZeRo and Salem have. MKLeo is great, but as of right now, I'd say top 3 is: 3rd: Nairo 2nd: Salem 1st: ZeRo

[@ryngtolu4334]

Salem has better results this season but i would say Nairo is still better. Anyway yeah, Salem or Nairo for the second place seem legit

[@braintrope4736]

Ryng Tolu Yeah, Definitely.

[@jimniexperience3591]

no loyalty in the smash community .. somehow one month of success means your the best of all time (ahem "Salem") the moment Leo overcomes his DK problem, he'll be the biggest threat out here

[@aubreyyarbrough3003]

Ding dong the witch is dead

[@nyerdk4606]

Aubrey Yarbrough boi thats just crazy

[@gv82089]

You deserve a beer

[@captaindisabled8378]

Oh the feels

[@ryngtolu4334]

Honestly, Leo seriusly do waaaaaaaay too bad against grabbers for being the second best player of the world. He better fix this problem or he can say goodbye to the TOP 3 the next PGR, because right now ZeRo, Nairo and Salem have way better results this season, and this tournament will just increase the gap.

[@Pokefan-zx5pj]

Ryng Tolu you see, leo has trouble against heavy's like Dk and bowser, since his playstile gets countered by their movesets

[@ryngtolu4334]

That's the point. A TOP player having a charter problem is not good, this has to change or he won't be the second best player anymore.

[@Pokefan-zx5pj]

Ryng Tolu ZeRo has bayo trouble :/

[@ryngtolu4334]

Not as much as MKleo, and the only Bayo who really loose is Salem, and we still haven't seen another set since EVO. He also lost one set to Mistake but that is.

[@martinluther123]

I think this is a little bit of a transition season for Leo. Maybe this time he won't make top 3... But I don't think that's a problem. It's not a problem as long as he uses the season to clean up his play. He needs to figure out some characters. He needs to find the answer for DK, he needs to find the best way to fight Sheik (he is pretty much forced to use a different character for every top level Sheik). The same with Sonic. And there are some other characters he needs to work on as well, he needs to become more dominant in some MUs like Pikachu, Peach, MK and Bowser. Those are MUs he usually wins, but he needs to be as dominant in those MUs and in every single MU as he is in the Mario, Fox or Mewtwo MUs. Hopefully he will get there this season if he works on that. And if he does he will most likely be get the 1st in the PGRv5.

[@nejikuchiki_7047]

disappointed in Leo just for going bayo...

[@kmoorelovin1]

No Marth? Dafuq?

[@nerfnut2661]

lol, mkleo didn't take the tournament seriously as soon as he went to losers

[@danielsmith5032]

Sour spot up smash cost Mkleo game 3 haha

[@thomask7441]

yes

[@waaa9084]

Taunt 2 get bodied

[@salva1622]

Funniest Smash 4 set xD

[@afoose]

BTFW!

[@nachot6592]

Damn. This game was slow.

[@yukicraft3210]

I swear, Bayonetta is so stupidly easy and broken lmao. Literally anyone can pick her up and find quick ez success smh

[@icebear6757]

I'd like to see you try.

[@yukicraft3210]

Here's the thing... I can't lmao

[@yukicraft3210]

Who said I'm joking, it's not as if I main the character and have since release or anything lol

[@yukicraft3210]

Bird.SeeD_Pro Im actually not sure how to take that one either lol

[@kingofstuff8148]

His bayo lost to dk wdym.....

[@MoistMarsupial]

Lol this set was awesome

[@josephsmith3508]

I know this is gonna sound like a douche thing to say, but Tweek is carried by DK in the Leo matchup so hard

[@eCstaTicBomB]

Or maybe Tweek is just really good with DK?

[@LordKai1102]

It is not even just douche, it's also completely useless. If you know you enemy is weak to your secondary, you would be considered....well reckless, if you wouldn't use that to your advantage. To say that friendly.

[@toxiclightning5303]

It's called a counter pick my guy

[@solokyou3932]

What kind off logic is that? If anything Tweek carried DK. Getting a 3-0 on Mkleo isn't automatic no matter what character you play

[@codangel9612]

pls cloud. no :)

[@kurtishuang9092]

#cloutgang

[@rostyoz1798]

#hailMKleo :v

[@chef7423]

the british commentator is awful

[@MistaKip]

Wow smash 4 sucks

[@gung-hogabi]

Taount to get bodiesz

[@albertvalentine2373]

MK Free

[@Pipersland]

Why does he tale so long to pick a character, its annoying.

[@frog5247]

LOL leo is a joke now! Second best in the world my ass 😂 watch these leo fanboys attack me lmfao

[@myideology7906]

Light's Ideology used thunderbolt. It's very effective! Juice fainted...

[@imjustaperson5936]

Juice leo stay struggling against heavys. Needs to get a grip.

[@samuelvibritannia4831]

Juice He's definitely number two. The problem he has is with ZeRo and grapplers-practiced grapplers. But if you look at his results, he's recently been showing us that he's still definitely number one.

[@NotOnQ]

Still top five though at least. Needs to stick to his mains and secondaries though imo

[@ryngtolu4334]

How is definitively number 2!? The fact that he has a heavy problem is not an excuse, is one of the reason why he is not first. You have a charter problem? Very bad. And to be fair, Bowser and DK are not even his worse demon. he has not beat ZeRo since ZeRo SAGA. Right now, saying Leo is better than Nairo is absurd, and even Salem is getting way better results.

[@chris-id6vk]

mkleo really cant handle being outplayed

[@MrMorgoth1992]

Just pick a fucking character, jfc.

[@daniellarue1673]

I love Tweek lololol