FOX MVG | MkLeo (Ike) vs. Advo (Dark Samus) - Pools - Frostbite 2019

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@robertoordaz7938
@robertoordaz7938 5 жыл бұрын
Leo taunts "how dare you?" Advo taunts "cool taunt bro"
@MysticOnePiece
@MysticOnePiece 5 жыл бұрын
I think the taunt was to make Samus more agressive in the match up
@ArtoriasSamus
@ArtoriasSamus 4 жыл бұрын
My man out here wearing masks before it's cool
@Jean-ws9hm
@Jean-ws9hm 3 жыл бұрын
Yes How ?!
@user-am34
@user-am34 15 күн бұрын
Bro he might’ve been sick wdym ‘ before it’s cool’
@haidynwendlandt2479
@haidynwendlandt2479 5 жыл бұрын
Samus: Pulls off complex string that looks awesome Ike: Hits three times for the same amount of damage in half the time
@colbymoody4877
@colbymoody4877 5 жыл бұрын
As a Samus main, I can relate
@NoumiGabe
@NoumiGabe 5 жыл бұрын
His speed coupled by his ganon sword range make it way too stupid safe to play ike like he only has two moves
@kidday4864
@kidday4864 5 жыл бұрын
this guy did nothing complex, all he did was neural b and then wait leoto jump into forward air range, really boring and mediocre gameplay
@haidynwendlandt2479
@haidynwendlandt2479 5 жыл бұрын
@@kidday4864 you obviously only watched the first 2 minutes
@kidday4864
@kidday4864 5 жыл бұрын
@@haidynwendlandt2479 it was was entire game of just that, thats says more than enough about his game play
@nategwright
@nategwright 5 жыл бұрын
Samus: Cool and innovative combos and mixups Ike: NAIR NAIR NAIR NAIR UP AIR Even still, I like Ike
@Xrelent
@Xrelent 5 жыл бұрын
I was gonna point out that Advo did a lot of Fairs but then I realized that was b/c of Leo's Nairs lol
@John_Smith_
@John_Smith_ 5 жыл бұрын
Xrelent you don't really want to do any other Samus' air attack when you're on the stage....
@Xrelent
@Xrelent 5 жыл бұрын
@@John_Smith_ That's true. What about dash attack, grab, and bomb? Are those viable moves at their level?
@John_Smith_
@John_Smith_ 5 жыл бұрын
Xrelent Samus' bombs might be good to sneak out of combos and her grab is a nice option to attack mid air, but all the moves you mentioned have too much end lag, making them really easy to punish :/ the dash attack is the faster but also the weakest
@u.m.g4299
@u.m.g4299 5 жыл бұрын
Samus: run-charge-shoot ... over and over again
@RavenThryfe
@RavenThryfe 5 жыл бұрын
I mean I can see why people say Ike is boring, but MkLeo's Ike definitely isn't boring at all imo. His movement is so damn good and that makes all the difference to me.
@LeoRizoLeon
@LeoRizoLeon 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! He is a genius. Probably best Ike in the world. People are just haters
@vince7256
@vince7256 5 жыл бұрын
best Ike yet he seems a little predictable doign always the same things. I think if dark samus did some perfect shield on the neutral air he could won that
@ToluDude
@ToluDude 5 жыл бұрын
@@vince7256 Easier said than done.
@danielsnoopeh1807
@danielsnoopeh1807 5 жыл бұрын
@@vince7256 I think the more the player get better and learn perfect shild etc. Ike gets worse
@nicholasstrazzulla4670
@nicholasstrazzulla4670 5 жыл бұрын
Lol if he’s predictable do you think you can beat him?
@McBabe12329
@McBabe12329 5 жыл бұрын
MKleo fights for his friends.
@flare1547
@flare1547 5 жыл бұрын
Nair for my friends
@dez0002
@dez0002 5 жыл бұрын
Nair is off the charts
@iluminaciondelcielo.995
@iluminaciondelcielo.995 5 жыл бұрын
Me explicas?
@Mazao210993
@Mazao210993 5 жыл бұрын
And also for heroin
@pretty-young-kyla6079
@pretty-young-kyla6079 5 жыл бұрын
McB12329 no mkleo nair for his friends
@Dr.Alligator
@Dr.Alligator 5 жыл бұрын
Epic sauce Dark Samus vs blue boy with big sword
@austininflorida
@austininflorida 5 жыл бұрын
Advo did a pretty good job. I haven't seen much high level Samus, let alone one that did so well against Leo.
@kidkoopa6389
@kidkoopa6389 5 жыл бұрын
He never tried to set up one charge shot resulting in only hitting with his best move like 10% of the time
@Unibiasx13
@Unibiasx13 5 жыл бұрын
How about all those neutral get ups from ledge forget zair fair fair bomb ledge hop whatevs
@Zerolinked
@Zerolinked 4 жыл бұрын
Then you got to see Quik with his Samus.
@live2die694
@live2die694 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zerolinked yb is better
@sinkbacteria7749
@sinkbacteria7749 4 жыл бұрын
@@live2die694 Joker's Samus plays a lot less lame imo
@jaredbeckwith
@jaredbeckwith 4 жыл бұрын
Homie is masked up before COVID
@kevinsantos1381
@kevinsantos1381 5 жыл бұрын
8:41 It's moments like these when I feel the most empathy for the Samus mains out there... Punished for landing a jab at 90+% 😔
@quotastrider801
@quotastrider801 5 жыл бұрын
WHY HASN'T IT BEEN FIXED YET
@danielbailey211
@danielbailey211 4 жыл бұрын
@@quotastrider801 It's not broken. The tips screen say its designed to not connect
@quotastrider801
@quotastrider801 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielbailey211 so it's intentionally broken .w.
@spacefreak0010
@spacefreak0010 2 жыл бұрын
@@quotastrider801 yep it's intentional but Nintendo has never actually provided a good reason as to why it happenes
@latincear4558
@latincear4558 5 жыл бұрын
Omg I SOO want to see more of that Samus gameplay. The only other samus I liked is Esam's
@Azarios
@Azarios 5 жыл бұрын
Look for YB his Samus. He's the best one I've ever seen by far. Ofc it's personal, but thought I'd share it with you buddy! ^^
@373Sneak
@373Sneak 5 жыл бұрын
Esam 4head
@tailesque
@tailesque 5 жыл бұрын
Seconding YB. Most impressive Samus play by far, imo.
@kakueiyamada2980
@kakueiyamada2980 5 жыл бұрын
Yes YBs Samus is crazy. He got his own playstyle for her which is just crazy. The bombs are actually rly good
@thorinhannahs4614
@thorinhannahs4614 5 жыл бұрын
I really liked Esam and YB until I found Cruzloops. His bomb movement is amazing. YB has wavebouncing and Esam has really solid aggression.
@emilianobarrientos705
@emilianobarrientos705 5 жыл бұрын
Me imagino A Leo diciendo : "Ahh con que te gustan tus pinches misiles, pues a mi me gustan los aéreos" XD
@sa-x0047
@sa-x0047 5 жыл бұрын
We need more samus gameplays like this
@_wave2278
@_wave2278 5 жыл бұрын
Eww no lol Id rather not watch a spam battle
@Succubus_L0li
@Succubus_L0li 5 жыл бұрын
Its stressfull to play as samus especially against characters that can aproach fast and also snakes
@Rodri92Irdor
@Rodri92Irdor 5 жыл бұрын
@@_wave2278 what about nair upair ike
@seabreeze2275
@seabreeze2275 5 жыл бұрын
「YB」is a No.1 Darksums player. from Japan.
@Nathan-yu7cu
@Nathan-yu7cu 5 жыл бұрын
Fair spam?
@IceeSwirl
@IceeSwirl 5 жыл бұрын
Got Leo to 1 stock both games. Definitely have my respect.
@FilthyVA
@FilthyVA 5 жыл бұрын
This match sponsored by N-Air...
@JorgeBordam1
@JorgeBordam1 5 жыл бұрын
People who say "leo's Ike is boring" is because Leo wins pretty much all the time. Haters start getting "bored" because they wanna see him lose. Nothing to do with the character. LEO YOU ROCK!
@Ari.1460
@Ari.1460 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure people call Ike boring because to be viable you have to fish for landing Nair which is boring as hell
@vanillaGreen1
@vanillaGreen1 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, it’s boring watching a character win because of one or two powerful moves. As soon as Ike hits a nair, the audience can predict what will happen next (Ike hits nair, hits follow up and will kill with up air or back air). It’s the predictability that makes Ike boring to watch. But I guess Leo abusing the bread and butter set ups also contributes to it, idk. Or maybe Ike’s kill confirms are just boring on their own
@biffyguybiffy6292
@biffyguybiffy6292 5 жыл бұрын
I have no problem with Leo, I actually really like his other characters but something about his Ike is just so repetitive.
@vanillaGreen1
@vanillaGreen1 5 жыл бұрын
Biffyguy Biffy i wouldn’t say its Leo in particular, it’s Ike that’s the problem. Leo is just playing optimally. Ike is just so bread and butter, it’s boring to see that all Ike has to hit is a nair and it’s gg to the stock
@DinzoArchonic
@DinzoArchonic 5 жыл бұрын
TAH TAH TAH TAH TAH TAH TAH TAH. Is that fun to listen to?
@lagalil
@lagalil 5 жыл бұрын
Plup is an anazing commentator. He had grear synergy with tk too.
@oct1629
@oct1629 5 жыл бұрын
Leos ike is the only ike doing big things so idk y people complain so much. Also marss has a clean ike aswell
@tommy3268
@tommy3268 5 жыл бұрын
People will complain about anything lol, people will complain that leo bought a turkey sandwich for lunch. People are dumb
@aintfalco7968
@aintfalco7968 5 жыл бұрын
You have a VERY small window to avoid getting hit by his up air. It makes it very possible to lose to a bad ike player, which is always frustrating. Personally I think there are much more infuriating characters, but that's why.
@Ktoe13
@Ktoe13 5 жыл бұрын
PrinceofGames it’s not bro
@zecular3677
@zecular3677 5 жыл бұрын
Erik but isn’t that true for all kill confirms, like inkling up throw up air? I personally think it’s just that using nair looks like “spamming”, so people hate that. It can be very annoying to deal with an attack that can just be thrown out which not only is safe on shield, but leads into kill sub 100
@aintfalco7968
@aintfalco7968 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not talking about in his confirm, I'm talking about juggling.
@tgcbuilt9096
@tgcbuilt9096 5 жыл бұрын
When in doubt, Nair.
@sillymcwilly4866
@sillymcwilly4866 5 жыл бұрын
An awful lot of people defending Nair > Nair > Nair> Nair > uair. How is that not boring to y'all I get you like Leo and he's amazing but good God man lol
@chibyo9914
@chibyo9914 5 жыл бұрын
Silly McWilly it’s satisfying to watch
@rorobear1940
@rorobear1940 5 жыл бұрын
He’s trying to win a tournament, not entertain neckbeards on the internet. What difference does it make if it’s boring?
@blank7137
@blank7137 5 жыл бұрын
@@rorobear1940 that wasnt the argument
@omarkhan135
@omarkhan135 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think you know how difficult it is to connect a string of combos like that to kill.
@omarkhan135
@omarkhan135 5 жыл бұрын
@@blank7137 but he won it anyways haha
@LucarioDXAuraStorm
@LucarioDXAuraStorm 5 жыл бұрын
I'm only watching this just to watch my baby, Samus, perform. He did well! 💕
@deangel9128
@deangel9128 5 жыл бұрын
-UM EXCUSE ME THATS DARK SAMUS-
@John_Smith_
@John_Smith_ 5 жыл бұрын
LucarioDXAuraStorm SHE
@John_Smith_
@John_Smith_ 5 жыл бұрын
Omega Pirate and that's your problem with his sentence!?
@tjflamezz4083
@tjflamezz4083 4 жыл бұрын
Advo rocking the mask. He knew
@cirotorres9666
@cirotorres9666 5 жыл бұрын
These guys were being so biased against Leo
@CaptainKnee
@CaptainKnee 5 жыл бұрын
Nice game, that Dark Samus made it interesting, he has great mindgames using that mid tier.
@BenjaminIMeszaros
@BenjaminIMeszaros 5 жыл бұрын
Advos Samus play is insane. So tight. His map control is so on point
@Kenet-de5ep
@Kenet-de5ep 5 жыл бұрын
Nair the videogame
@pretty-young-kyla6079
@pretty-young-kyla6079 5 жыл бұрын
Ike the new smash 4 meta knight
@davecambrian7726
@davecambrian7726 5 жыл бұрын
You must have 400 iq to nair as Ike
@hatsunemiku8007
@hatsunemiku8007 5 жыл бұрын
First Ike then Joker MKLeo is my favorite play- ResidentSleeper
@John_Smith_
@John_Smith_ 5 жыл бұрын
Dave Cambrian or you can half jump it all the time. that... kinda works since his sword hits you everywhere and far away, right?
@alejandroa7195
@alejandroa7195 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of people hating on Ike's nair as if it were truly broken. Put some respect on this man. MKLeo is also just the best player in the world. His Lucina is great and his wolf is no joke too.
@Boomtendo4tw
@Boomtendo4tw 5 жыл бұрын
Alejandro A they need to buff Samus. There are other projectile characters like Links and Olimar who aren’t punished the way Samus is. Ike does as much damage with two moves as it takes Samus to charge up for
@aintfalco7968
@aintfalco7968 5 жыл бұрын
It's because samus is so strong in a casual context, (which this game is designed around.) Seamus is straight up great in multiplayer FFA, especially on campy tourney banned stages. If they were to make her more competitively viable, they'd have to tone down her charge beam.
@TheCleanProphet
@TheCleanProphet 5 жыл бұрын
Erik Samus is competitively viable tho if you just play patiently.
@Daphung_
@Daphung_ 5 жыл бұрын
Boom tendo Samus definitly doesnt need a Buff tho
@pumpingreps1518
@pumpingreps1518 5 жыл бұрын
It can easily be punished by parry but people don’t take advantage of the mechanic
@danielherrera7362
@danielherrera7362 5 жыл бұрын
Great Dark Samus play. MKLeo adapted well, Avdo just needed to change it up some more.
@KayronTho
@KayronTho 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny the people dogging the samus. You can clearly tell they've never played as her. Smh. The samus did well.
@lutetiunn
@lutetiunn 5 жыл бұрын
Samus did very well, but even I as a Samus main who is ok (other people say I'm good but fr I ain't lol) I think he should have mixed it up a bit more. More bombs, missiles to pressure, and dash attacks were missing. Same for up tilt and down tilt, but there was some in a match. Besides that it was very clean gameplay.
@simonzhang7008
@simonzhang7008 5 жыл бұрын
@@lutetiunn i was able to feel his stress and in that situation against leo? XD i think we all would have made same mistakes
@lutetiunn
@lutetiunn 5 жыл бұрын
@@simonzhang7008 No yeah me too. I've done the same thing many times against people
@victorortega1036
@victorortega1036 5 жыл бұрын
@@lutetiunn totally agree if he had played more in his face like he did at the end of the video he would've won he did do waaay too much charge shots that's why MK Leo adapted and took such a big advantage
@Tletna
@Tletna 5 жыл бұрын
@@simonzhang7008 I was moderately good in Melee, very practiced at Samus, but not tournament level.. In tournament, I would have made the same mistakes, but I would have still tried more than he did. Good or not, he play was pretty basic and predictable. I don't know if Samus is still nerfed in Ultimate, but I still think this guy could have done more. I just don't get why he let Ike get in at all if he was going to do basic Samus, he should have at least stuck to his boring game plan.
@scottmcrae4427
@scottmcrae4427 5 жыл бұрын
Sword characters do a good job of out prioritizing almost all of samus' attacks
@emery1057
@emery1057 4 жыл бұрын
This matchup was surprisingly fun to watch
@beyondgoogle6642
@beyondgoogle6642 5 жыл бұрын
People saying Ike is boring ... who the hell cares if he’s boring ... Leo is playing to win and this character is consistently getting him w’s
@DBZSeanzie
@DBZSeanzie 5 жыл бұрын
Jorge Morales Ike’s nair is playing to win, the character is broken
@beyondgoogle6642
@beyondgoogle6642 5 жыл бұрын
DBZD do you know how many characters have broken nairs? lol stop complaining
@Itotia413
@Itotia413 5 жыл бұрын
DBZD “I don’t know how to parry”
@xxBurnsss101
@xxBurnsss101 5 жыл бұрын
Gives me hope for all of us samus mains.
@Kallen_ZSS
@Kallen_ZSS 5 жыл бұрын
Plup commentary also godly
@marcosmora5198
@marcosmora5198 5 жыл бұрын
I like how they say ds style is simple but hes fighting a ike ...really
@benjacobs1010
@benjacobs1010 5 жыл бұрын
Call it boring all you want, this man wins
@Silverthemystic
@Silverthemystic 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@truv_
@truv_ 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Jacobs i think people accept its winning but its still boring to watch, just like meta knight/ all of brawl boring to watch but meta knight wins (im not comparing which character is better btw)
@jpoblete11
@jpoblete11 5 жыл бұрын
Don't you say
@ethanbradberry5050
@ethanbradberry5050 5 жыл бұрын
It is sooooo boring... and I’m talking about Samus ofc it’s like watching melee Samus again wavedash back down smash wavedash back jab... so laaaaaaame
@getoffmylawn6275
@getoffmylawn6275 5 жыл бұрын
Samus, Belmont’s, and Olimar super boring characters.
@monkeyking1150
@monkeyking1150 5 жыл бұрын
Jump, attack, jump, jump, attack, jump....
@gameslayer5449
@gameslayer5449 4 жыл бұрын
Can we just pause for a moment and say how legendary that guy played with Ike, like daaaaam. He was like Goku going super saiyan.
@joshuacacatzun5264
@joshuacacatzun5264 4 жыл бұрын
Can we just pause for a moment and say how this mans wearing a mask and this video was posted a YEAR ago?!
@jonathan3132
@jonathan3132 5 жыл бұрын
MkLeo in first match,Commenters - "He has a huge lead" MkLeo-"You underestimate my power"
@nataliedanae8151
@nataliedanae8151 5 жыл бұрын
damn Advo is actually better than i thought
@TSEizure
@TSEizure 5 жыл бұрын
Complaining about Ike's nair? What about when Leo faced Light's fox at winner's semis at Glitch 6? Light destroyed Leo - even made him switch to Cloud. And fox has a NAIR TO UPSMASH combo and Light has been frequently placing high (sound at all similar to nair to UP AIR?). Where are all the fox nair complainers? I think neither character should be nerfed tho. Parrying seemed to be a big part of Light's success against the "ike spam" - so maybe people need to stop complaining.
@HotBoii91
@HotBoii91 5 жыл бұрын
Savante Estabillo do u realize how fast Fox is too tho lol
@vroomvroomfam309
@vroomvroomfam309 4 жыл бұрын
Savante Estabillo I get you commented this a year ago but Ike has a disjoint and a rather large one at that and that’s why he’s annoying. Fox doesn’t have a disjoint so you can go in rather than having to play defensive.
@TSEizure
@TSEizure 4 жыл бұрын
@@vroomvroomfam309 what's up. I think it's more than worth mentioning fox's nair comes out on frame on frame FOUR whereas Ike's comes out at frame TEN. Also, fox's run speed and air speed is 2.402 and 1.11 respectively. Ike's run speed and air speed is 1.507 and 1.134 respectively. Fox can effectively get in much faster and has faster moves. Sure Ike has disjointed moves, but that comes at a price - look how much slower he is compared to Fox. You might bring up Ike's airspeed being SLIGHTLY better than Fox's, but this is cancelled out due to the fact that both character's typically run and short hop when initiating, and by comparing the dash speeds, it's much easier for fox to do so compared to Ike as fox has almost double the run speed as Ike. So why is fox, AGAIN, off the hook? Maybe ten frames seems unnoticeable to you or me, but it's obviously noticeable to the top players - top player's have consistently stated how Ike is basically a parry test - this is made much easier due to Ike's moderate movement. To reiterate, a year later, I believe in this post even more as Fox seems to be outperforming Ike at the high level. I also believe neither character should be nerfed atm.
@vroomvroomfam309
@vroomvroomfam309 4 жыл бұрын
Savante Estabillo fair enough point my guy. Granted for average players like us Ike is a lot more annoying than fox but at the pro level it’s completely different
@EggmanlandResident
@EggmanlandResident 5 жыл бұрын
I like playing as both Ike and Samus, but I always root for Samus because she just can't ever be high tier in these games.
@JARVISK600
@JARVISK600 2 жыл бұрын
THE GOAT MAN……its crazy
@thecowcowclash
@thecowcowclash 5 жыл бұрын
Where was Samus's back air that game??
@lalalabizola
@lalalabizola 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting how Samus actually plays like a Smash fighter, trying to use all her tools, meanwhile Ike's just another broken swordsman character "press A to win".
@kidkoopa6389
@kidkoopa6389 5 жыл бұрын
Ike nair has very little risk and high reward since it is one of his few combo starters. Dark Samus could have won if he stopped firing full charge shot so quickly. Zoning characters are beast in this game
@thejinxlet525
@thejinxlet525 5 жыл бұрын
I think you aren't taking mkleo's actual skill into account not very fair to say that imo
@anonfalco7880
@anonfalco7880 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, Samus actually has B moves she can use, whereas in all fairness, what B move can Ike use in Neutral? He can only use Neutral B at ledge and Up + Side B to recover. And counter is barely a move.
@legreatpenguino445
@legreatpenguino445 5 жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious to see everyone complain about how boring the match was. I was actually very interested and impressed with the way Leo adapted. It was an interesting match. Not every match has to be about sick hard reads or insane zero-deaths.
@jordanbutler6702
@jordanbutler6702 5 жыл бұрын
Being completely honest, when a Samus/Dark Samus player starts making plays against a top player, it's really hard to contain the hype!
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 5 жыл бұрын
that dsamus is a WALL
@zentember
@zentember 5 жыл бұрын
wow i never seen leo taunt that much. he must have needed to make a reply to the crowd i guess
@xMrxsunshinex
@xMrxsunshinex 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone please give me tips on how to approach Samus? My main options for getting in past the projectiles is jumping, dashing in and shielding, and rolling. But it seems no matter how much I think I'm mixing those options up they always have an answer. If I jump over, they fair me, if I shield they shoot and then grab me, if I roll in they have time to escape and at that point I try to read where they'll go but it's a lot of work. Any tips would be appreciated
@salsashark4133
@salsashark4133 5 жыл бұрын
Jordan Cornwell Maybe try reading them, if you jump right as they're firing you should have time to punish. Also go into training mode and get used to parrying projectiles, I feel like it catches people off-guard even if it doesn't actually give you more reaction time. You can bait the charge shot out to get it out of the equation as well, missiles are much easier
@felixgutierrez993
@felixgutierrez993 5 жыл бұрын
My BOY Ike flexin! WE LIKE IKE!!!
@ProlificPops
@ProlificPops 5 жыл бұрын
I'm tryna get into Dark Samus. Any more good Dark Samus mains I can watch?
@Jof-
@Jof- 5 жыл бұрын
Esam plays regular Samus but still really cool. They’re 99%the same character anyways
@Matter_Of_Fact
@Matter_Of_Fact 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Jay
@Champuru2
@Champuru2 4 жыл бұрын
i love plup commentating here.
@v257to
@v257to 5 жыл бұрын
Love seeing leo playing ike
@stubbornmarbles
@stubbornmarbles 5 жыл бұрын
people calling Ike boring while Samus is camping spamming charge shots? please explain.
@EduardoFlores-bt4fo
@EduardoFlores-bt4fo 5 жыл бұрын
Because that Samus is reacting to Ike's attack. That's adaption.
@trashcant4678
@trashcant4678 5 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Flores That samus also lost, very nice adaption.
@augustcelineiii946
@augustcelineiii946 5 жыл бұрын
@@trashcant4678 Okay you win against Leo. 😊 That Samus took Leo to last stock both matches. I would like to see you take even one.
@trashcant4678
@trashcant4678 5 жыл бұрын
August Celine III Taking 1 stock from a top player isn't difficult, beating them is way harder. The samus player played really great but he did progressively worse throughout the set which isn't really adaption.
@Zimran03
@Zimran03 5 жыл бұрын
Nic Hume Yea this Samus could have used grab against Leo multiple times or dash attack to get out of pressure. He made himself very predictable when he relied on charge shot and didn’t even move around at all.
@themigs
@themigs 5 жыл бұрын
complaining that all samus is doing is spamming charge shot is like saying all capt. olimar does is throw pikmin
@lutetiunn
@lutetiunn 5 жыл бұрын
This comment is it chief.
@DBZSeanzie
@DBZSeanzie 5 жыл бұрын
Michael M well the jab is trash, and they nerfed missiles, what do people expect? Meanwhile mkdiabetic is almost exclusively using nair. He’s using a character that is busted
@masterhand20
@masterhand20 5 жыл бұрын
DBZD The character isn’t busted, it’s just a good Samus slayer. Normally Samus does well with tanks such as bowser because her attacks require larger hit boxes, but Ike is able to put distance Samus, so she has to resort to perfect set ups and projectiles.
@DBZSeanzie
@DBZSeanzie 5 жыл бұрын
Master Hand I’m fine with the Samus character, and player, it’s the Ike that is bullshit. The character needs to be banned or nerfed.
@masterhand20
@masterhand20 5 жыл бұрын
DBZD I’m aware. I’m saying that it’s inaccurate to suggest Ike is nerf worthy. Or at the very least I haven’t seen anything that would justify it.
@BrandonDoinTheDamnThang
@BrandonDoinTheDamnThang 5 жыл бұрын
Okay okay weather you guys think Ike is boring or not..... LOL WHO TF CARES. This is Leo’s CAREER he’s not gonna stop playing a character he is really successful with and making a lot of financial profit playing for you bums. This is a financial business to this huy my friend. .
@Boomtendo4tw
@Boomtendo4tw 5 жыл бұрын
Strong Moves beat reliance on setups
@Noba46688
@Noba46688 5 жыл бұрын
As for up air, well, THAT doesn’t kill until legit 170%, and that’s with the person you’re hitting being at the very top. Yeah Samus/ dark samus need a buff
@XxxDarkContinentxxX
@XxxDarkContinentxxX 4 жыл бұрын
4.8B Views if they nerf her laser than they can buff the jab and the up air they just have to nerf the laser
@Frandoll08
@Frandoll08 5 жыл бұрын
Leo is too damn ... nvm either i don't want to be cut endlessly by the sword like that
@user-gx4vc6bx7t
@user-gx4vc6bx7t 5 жыл бұрын
Advo looking like a anime character
@Iridescent079
@Iridescent079 5 жыл бұрын
Spamming Nair is fair when they just charge shot everything
@mr.a6862
@mr.a6862 5 жыл бұрын
MelsTheInkling dark Samus was baiting Ike, isn't that "fair"
@minjun335
@minjun335 5 жыл бұрын
Yea they’re just using their best moves
@TheCleanProphet
@TheCleanProphet 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh Ike gets free anything from nair. If Samus challenges Ike and misses she’ll most likely get hit with nair into a combo or death so she really has to rely on charge shot and basically all her anti air options when he jumps. That’s virtually all she can do in this matchup.
@ghostface5559
@ghostface5559 5 жыл бұрын
no because you can punish a charge shot. how are they remotely the same?
@DBZSeanzie
@DBZSeanzie 5 жыл бұрын
MelsTheInkling you’re an idiot
@darthcrisis4964
@darthcrisis4964 4 жыл бұрын
Was the coronavirus out at this time🤔
@giggitygiggitygigism
@giggitygiggitygigism 5 жыл бұрын
That Samus definitely been watching a lot of YB
@GlubWub
@GlubWub 5 жыл бұрын
YB?
@tylertanner5853
@tylertanner5853 5 жыл бұрын
@@GlubWub Youth Basketball
@giggitygiggitygigism
@giggitygiggitygigism 5 жыл бұрын
@@GlubWub The Samus God that every samus player aspires to be like kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZeWpXx4YsejgZI
@robg6501
@robg6501 5 жыл бұрын
This comment seems that you only wanted everyone to know that you're aware of who YB is.
@curtisbrown547
@curtisbrown547 5 жыл бұрын
woweee A button the character sure pulled out a high skill high effort victory vs this samus
@AbeDorf18
@AbeDorf18 4 жыл бұрын
curtis brown its almost like the best player in the world us actually good at winning.
@DanielGonzalez-ge7ez
@DanielGonzalez-ge7ez 4 жыл бұрын
He said Leo was scared! Haaaa
@animetool101
@animetool101 5 жыл бұрын
Nair nair nair all I see if nair
@xzgears929
@xzgears929 5 жыл бұрын
The old "boring to watch" line. You people complain about any character on stream. :/
@Boomtendo4tw
@Boomtendo4tw 5 жыл бұрын
XZGears the boring thing is when moves are just obviously strong and win and other characters don’t have access to easy kills that way for no reason. At least Luigi zero death combo required precision input and practice. Stuff like Ike up and neutral air and Fox up smash just kill and are easy to go for. So it gets boring seeing the same moves cause they are so easy to kill with
@beyondgoogle6642
@beyondgoogle6642 5 жыл бұрын
Boom tendo who cares if it takes “ this or that “ mk Leo plays like 6 different characters
@colebutler4442
@colebutler4442 5 жыл бұрын
I see you on most smash videos with a new complaint in every comment section.
@xzgears929
@xzgears929 5 жыл бұрын
Cole Butler This isn't complaining, this is me pointing out the majority of this comment section.
@quotastrider801
@quotastrider801 5 жыл бұрын
Ike's Nair is fun to watch when you see how mkleo utilises and plays with it
@theapistevist8128
@theapistevist8128 5 жыл бұрын
Nice stuff, Advo.
@victorortega1036
@victorortega1036 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not an expert or anything but I feel Advo overcomitted a little bit too much on that charge shot if he only stopped charging the charge shot so much and switch up his gamestyle and played the way he did at the end of the video, more up at his face, he could've probably won the game. Ik it ain't that easy Ike's N-air is to be respected but it is what it is and it isn't like Samus does'nt not have hit boxes to contest that.
@ericgonzalez3317
@ericgonzalez3317 5 жыл бұрын
Man dark samus could’ve adapted to ike but it’s not easy with mkleo behind the controller. I love samus my favorite character!
@freshyeska9875
@freshyeska9875 5 жыл бұрын
Plup commentary 👌
@joecoolberry911
@joecoolberry911 3 жыл бұрын
Ike: Nair and up air....that’s it
@wringlespottomire9140
@wringlespottomire9140 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if what you see is boring; Leo is playing to win. I don't know the guy, but I can assume his priority isn't to impress the masses by playing a lowtier or some other character everyone wants to see. When there's a cash prize, why would you not play an objectively good character???
@riotron1026
@riotron1026 5 жыл бұрын
Wringle Spottomire the issue with that line of thinking when it comes to spectatorship and competition they both go hand in hand. Without enough spectators there are no sponsors or huge cash prizes so spectators pretty much have the players by the balls. If players have the “always pick the best character” mentality it kills variety and spectators interest and ultimately makes the game less enjoyable overall. Look how Smash 4 went out, not well. They need to improve on balancing to avoid this issue.
@wolfthemagnificent2966
@wolfthemagnificent2966 5 жыл бұрын
Should have used morph ball and zair to space better
@JorgeBordam1
@JorgeBordam1 5 жыл бұрын
What stage is that ? like to put the platforms like that? is not battlefield.
@laogon09
@laogon09 5 жыл бұрын
Town & city
@moomanchu608
@moomanchu608 5 жыл бұрын
People complain about ike being boring but look at samus, gross.
@DBZSeanzie
@DBZSeanzie 5 жыл бұрын
Iron Wolf Man what’s Samus supposed to do against a spam storm of broken nairs?
@jasonRhawt
@jasonRhawt 5 жыл бұрын
Is he consider the best Ike?
@jankowelt2790
@jankowelt2790 5 жыл бұрын
Legion Slots Yes by far
@mohammadmehtab3684
@mohammadmehtab3684 5 жыл бұрын
I would say marss is up there
@Ktoe13
@Ktoe13 5 жыл бұрын
Mohammad Mehtab where’s Marss at tho
@tylertanner5853
@tylertanner5853 5 жыл бұрын
Leo, Mars, ryuga top 3 in order Marss is by far the most interesting to watch though. He plays ZSS and MegaMan as well, with ZSS probably being his real main. Ryuga is more interesting than Leo to watch but Leo is just easily the best actual player of the three. He just doesn't take risks like the other two do. He's a very safe player compared to them
@DBZSeanzie
@DBZSeanzie 5 жыл бұрын
Legion Slots just the fattest
@calleschoffelmeer2765
@calleschoffelmeer2765 5 жыл бұрын
Why does advo have that mask on?
@cobaltskeleton5878
@cobaltskeleton5878 5 жыл бұрын
the samus wasn't using any bombs. if he did he wouldve got a lot of little damage done, or better yet kept distance. kinda hurting to watch lmao
@highwind6325
@highwind6325 5 жыл бұрын
Cobalt Skeleton exactly what I was thinking, bombs break up one of Ike’s biggest strengths, spacing.
@Xrelent
@Xrelent 5 жыл бұрын
Especially in the last half of game 1 when MKLeo was rushing Advo down. In the first half Advo was playing correctly. I also wanted to see more up-bs but idk if up-b is good in ultimate.
@u.m.g4299
@u.m.g4299 5 жыл бұрын
Mkleo: definition of a god against any character
@jeffreypeguero4418
@jeffreypeguero4418 5 жыл бұрын
Nair nair nair nair oh my god.
@lilseb3436
@lilseb3436 4 жыл бұрын
Who else misses mkleos ike
@bechirhouas5253
@bechirhouas5253 4 жыл бұрын
When you are too good with Joker, Byleth, Cloud, Marth and Lucina but still want some challenge...
@Ilikefreibier
@Ilikefreibier 5 жыл бұрын
Why is he wearing that mask?
@greatstaro9255
@greatstaro9255 5 жыл бұрын
1:15 Wow Leo. You really fell in that trap?
@ImHoldingDownBack
@ImHoldingDownBack 5 жыл бұрын
Jump. A. The two brain cells needed to play ike
@SuperRandomPeach
@SuperRandomPeach 5 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend that you watch Izaw's 'The Art of Ike' video. Ike has many weaknesses. Learn to exploit them.
@KeithRhandell
@KeithRhandell 5 жыл бұрын
Why don't you enter some high skilled tournaments and get easy prize money?
@Ekim2F94
@Ekim2F94 4 жыл бұрын
No bombs m8?
@赤ぱぷりか
@赤ぱぷりか 5 жыл бұрын
YBダムスのほうがつよいかな
@はんま-d5e
@はんま-d5e 5 жыл бұрын
YBさんとあばだんごってYBさんのほうが強いって思ってる俺ってへんかな?ザクレイさんにはYBさんも勝てないだろうけど
@赤ぱぷりか
@赤ぱぷりか 5 жыл бұрын
@@はんま-d5e あばだんごは強キャラを見極めて相手に有利なキャラを選んでるけど YBは単キャラだからなぁ 純粋なテクニックならYBのほうが上だと思ってる
@pieminator6969
@pieminator6969 5 жыл бұрын
Battle of the spammers.
@stereoplayerdx2308
@stereoplayerdx2308 5 жыл бұрын
Don't piss MkLeo off
@poolplexer
@poolplexer 4 жыл бұрын
I wish my Ike was half as good as MKleos
@mickeymouse-wv4sq
@mickeymouse-wv4sq 5 жыл бұрын
Finna pick up Samus 😳
@daglizzygobbler7441
@daglizzygobbler7441 4 жыл бұрын
Anybody else think it was foolish to choose Ike versus Dark Samsus but the Ike started Schmoovin'?
@AdRaptor616
@AdRaptor616 5 жыл бұрын
Like for that samus
@firetigersage
@firetigersage 2 жыл бұрын
Advo relies too much on that charge shot. My 2 cents
@michaelcameron3902
@michaelcameron3902 5 жыл бұрын
I would be so mad if I had to play ADVO’s Samus
@aaronmeeks6323
@aaronmeeks6323 5 жыл бұрын
I THINK THIS IS THE SAMUS THAT NAIRI FACED ONLINE
@yaz7539
@yaz7539 5 жыл бұрын
Aaron Meeks what video?
@miami-855
@miami-855 4 жыл бұрын
That’s yeezy busta
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