GOML X TOP 8 - Mango (Fox) Vs. Jmook (Sheik) Smash Melee - SSBM

[@klnmn3722]

the camera match warmed my heart with nostalgia

[@skullkrusher4418]

The composure from Jmook to bring it back after being down in game 3 is insane. Really impressive showing from him.

[@il100374]

Game 3 gave me depression, anxiety, mental instability, erectile dysfunction, herpes, genital herpes, PTSD, OCD, a meth addiction, aids

[@zachsteiner]

Damn, AIDS too?

[@6ix925]

😂😂😂😂😂​@@zachsteiner

[@EasterDude]

concerning amount of STDs on that list bud

[@il100374]

@@EasterDude Bud

[@soulrebellion]

Best comment ever. Even before seeing game 3

[@PalPlays]

I wore a huge smile on my face when they switched to the camera feed. Kept that smile for the whole game. Good on ya GOML production for not panicking in the scramble!

[@squidfather]

The end of game 3 is exactly why a player like Cody is outperforming Mang0 rn. Simultaneously it is also one of the reasons Mang0 is more loved than Cody... he does not just play it safe.

[@il100374]

Facts

[@Budymryo]

Nah Cody’s just corny 💀

[@jinto540]

I mean... Rn? Or last year? Because Cody didnt outperform shit at goml

[@Aefax]

corny schwab aint outperforming dick rn

Getting reversed 3-0'd when he was up 3 stocks to 1 in game 3 is the most Mang0 thing ever.

[@Nunya1721]

what...losing?

[@samskott2344]

The pause was unfortunate, but you can't say that's the reason Mango lost. Let's not forget that he was up 3 stocks to 1 in game 3 and it looked over for Jmook. If anything, we should be commending Jmook's composure, not many players would be able to hold it together like that.

[@joecoolberry911]

Jmook is definitely the most disciplined of all the high level smash players

[@zjmullan]

jmook having the falco icon is so funny for some reason

[@XiJinPiggie]

I do believe top players are not getting worse, but everyone else is getting better at a much faster rate and reaching the skill ceiling sooner. The game is always full of surprises and the lore will always be ripe.

[@ninjendo1087]

11:43 is what cost the entire set for Mango 🤧

[@Emil-Roma]

These "icing" and "pause" comments are just insane to me. Are you suggesting your favorite player's mental game is bad enough that a couple of minutes is enough to make him lose? It's downright disrespectful to the player you're trying to support.

[@matlit1859]

Amazing comeback by J. Great play from both

[@mitchellvillo3125]

i hate how biased melee commentary is towards mango. sick stuff from jmook tho!!!

[@man-ku1pc]

I wouldn't say I hate it but yeah it took yoshi about to win the hardest tournament ever to break the bias temporarily

[@andygranados63]

The cope in the comments is palpable. No good is going to come from leaving a angry comment. Just like Mang0, we have to hold that L.

[@KalebSDay]

Holding production accountable for their mistake so they don't interfere with an already going set in the future is all anyone is trying to accomplish. Same with how production was dumb to put the decision on Moky if the game should be replayed when Jmook had controller problems before.

[@diegomo1413]

@@KalebSDay if a little icing causes you to get reverse 3-0d, you don’t deserve to win the tournament

[@Flip-a-dip-dip]

There’s arguments on both sides I feel like. Top players always talk about momentum, and how important it is to their current mental state. Production on the other hand should handle stuff better yes, but technology is finicky and just fails from time to time. I feel like nobody wins here.

[@zsabermaverick6390]

Great set from Jmook! For everyone b"ching around bout the pause: Mango is a pro, even though it could break his momentum, that's something that could happen and if it affects him, it's gonna be used against him, cause everyone can "stall" in between games (Wizzrobe kinda used to do this on the past).

[@meneks6739]

at 15:56 that DI to get the grab was sick

[@derrickmeme1093]

good catch damn I didn't even see that, it was sick

[@AyamineMISC]

Where did No Johns go?

[@Boilerguydave]

Sick set

[@l0af_o]

Game 3 hurt my soul damn

[@kaptep01]

Mang0’s so sad after that man, you can see it all over his face. Good stuff to Jmook tho. The 3 stock comeback on game 3 and a reverse 3-0 to finish it. I will say it is a little jank tho they had to take a break mid set. I can imagine that would mess with your nerves a little in a high pressure top 8 set like this lol

[@Valdivia9494]

Mango basically repeated his famous combo against Plup, only on the other side of the stage

[@gadischneider9231]

i think commentators that are incredibly biased towards mango should not be able to commentate his sets

[@TheRealOmniscient]

Nbs. Also mang0 meatriders are just as annoying as hbox fans. Both same coin, different sides

[@carlthewellendowed]

Agreed. I enjoy watching Mang0 as much as the next, but the bias was just so clear on this one.

[@BlueRiging]

Going to be difficult because very few aren't mango fans. Also, some of these sets weren't commentator at all, did they have enough staff this tournament?

[@ColeBresnehen]

@TheRealOmniscent this is also true about them as players

[@BSeeD06]

Ok that was insane

[@humanperson001]

Cameraman is the real goat

[@Skantaq]

You run high profile sets off stream: FUCK PRODUCTION You pause a high profile set to stream it: FUCK PRODUCTION I guess the issue is that it was a midset pause but feels bad for everyone.

[@GUT5S]

the pause sucked but that's paying the fox tax I reckon

[@Charmolution]

Mang0 enjoys losing. It's the only explanation for his play in the second half of this set.

[@js3phh192]

He got iced by production. There's another possible explanation

[@BlueGrovyle]

@@js3phh192 I'd be tempted to agree with you if he hadn't been in complete control of game 3 and choked it all away by being extremely impatient to end the set right then and there. That is not to say that I am in agreement with the original comment. It's quite silly in its own right.

[@jadonplox]

or its his first fox tourney back after years and years

[@GUT5S]

​@@jadonploxhes been playing fox for hours a day bro

[@Mustang_Click]

@@GUT5S very different playing in practice and playing in an actual bracket, especially in top 8

[@Chiplinked]

The chump checking is real

[@kuhyugaa]

manga fox goated

[@paxtonkocka3803]

I do not like shiek

[@shinji136]

Cry more.

[@paxtonkocka3803]

@@shinji136 lol

[@claytonhazelrigg8512]

Spoiler blocker

[@追加Y]

19XX

[@nathanby5835]

Getting a few minute break after going down 0-2 is so bullshit lmao

[@marquistf1996]

When your playing at this level you can't account things like this as a reason for a win or loss. As you may recall even after the "break" (which was actually technical difficulties out of the players control) Mang0 was up three stocks to one. The game was basically over. Until he gave J a inch and he ended up taking an entire mile and the whole set as well. When Mang0 shakes his head at the end he's not made at J or staff he's mad at himself.

[@nathanby5835]

@@marquistf1996 i have played fighting games at this level, and yes that kind of break absolutely gave jmook an advantage. The extra time to think about a gameplan or strategy is huge, it is why people used to hate wizzy for it

[@josephblight9421]

​@nathanby5835 what fighting game have you been a top 10 player in the world in exactly

[@marquistf1996]

@@nathanby5835 but you can't build careers off of lucky breaks or happenstances. If you've competed at this level then surely you would agree. Whatever advantage Jmook received (which is debatable) it cannot account for a 3-1 stock reversal followed by a reverse 3-0. Mind you the same way wizzrobe took breathers in between games Mang0 could have asked for a small break as well. It's not the reason he lost this set bro.

[@gfrgmcfluff9710]

@@nathanby5835goofy ah comment

[@Volffgor]

I mean mango is good but bro, this is championships, and champions are more than good.

[@Greyes316]

Superbowl 47

[@oscartoons.]

My greatest disciple almost had this in the bag :(

[@space_coope1785]

Production 1 , Mango 0

[@space_coope1785]

Jmook played nuts doe, if you don’t like him you don’t like melee

[@calebrobinson6406]

Everyone wishes their Fox was cool as this combo 14:20

[@robertorobatomoreno1970]

nooooo Mang0000

[@Rh1thmz]

Mango deserved that one and he knows it Was written all over his face game 5 Jesus

[@shinji136]

If he "deserved" that one he would have won, but he didn't. Jmook played better, so he deserved it. Stop coping.

[@mortaljason]

Me when I'm a competitive competitor in a tournament and I "deserve to win" (I got reverse 3-0)

[@savaget2058]

California got JMook looking rough. Ain't no barbers out there? 😅

[@Imbmob]

I stop to watching after game 3

[@Nunya1721]

Then you missed the best part...

[@JB-wi1ym]

The incompetence of the GOML production staff is staggering.

[@wirl940]

wow chaingrabs are so stupid

[@marquistf1996]

Have you played this game bro? Melee is stupid lol.

[@josephblight9421]

I bet you can tech chase like that can't you

[@bibbyboxx2219]

techchasing =/= chaingrabbing

[@josephblight9421]

@bibbyboxx2219 have you ever actually played melee? Go chain grab fox with peach then tech chase fox with sheik. See how consistent you are with one vs the other. Shine and up throw up air are both 5000x more stupid than chain grabbing or tech chasing too. If you don't want chain grabs or tech chasing go play ultimate

[@bibbyboxx2219]

@@josephblight9421 I know man. I was replying to the guy complaining about “chaingrabbing” even though Jmook was techchasing. I love Melee

[@D.A.-Espada]

I dont care what anyone says. Regrab tech chasing is ruining the game. Without it Jmook is clearly not as good as Mango as a player. It carries him vs spacies

[@zsabermaverick6390]

You "mango nation" guys should chill. He plays the most broken charecters on the game and sheik's grabs weren't a problem before he started loosing.

[@davidgrischuk5454]

@@zsabermaverick6390 reaction tech chases are not affecting the game if they never happen. they were mostly dropped in the first three games they happened in the last two games then jmook started winning.

[@zjmullan]

nice rage bait

[@davidgrischuk5454]

@@zjmullan I'm genuinely confused. can you explain where the rage bait is?

[@simanolastname2399]

Every top tier character that isn't called Falco and Peach love regrab techchasing, especially fox

[@KalebSDay]

Another production L. You don't stop people from playing because of your failure to keep the stream going. Icing someone out and giving time for the guy who is down to recompose is stupid, just fix the stream after the set it over.

[@samskott2344]

I mean, Mango was on the verge of 3 stocking him after the pause and he choked it away. Yes, the pause sucks, but dumb stuff like this happens from time to time. To blame Mango losing 3 straight games because of the pause is pretty absurd.

[@surfingraichu7594]

If you have been a top player for almost 20 years now like Mang0 and you still can’t keep your composure or stick to your winning game plan just because of a 2 min break in the set you don’t deserve to win shit. That said, I don’t think Mang0 let it affect him and it’s all his fans coping super hard. Melee survives because people pay to see it, the people who are in the crowd probably doesn’t even cover the venue fee so good streaming conditions are absolutely necessary.