SSC 2019 SSBU - TSM Tweek (Trainer) VS FOX MVG MkLeo (Joker) Smash Ultimate Loser's Finals

[@itzyaboicloud8735]

Tweek up 2 games. Ah shit, here we go again.

[@memop6679]

Ray Ray Evo flashbacks

[@sinsideology7182]

Ray Ray giorno theme starts playing

[@atlasgalor3583]

Ray Ray Tweek can easily beat MkLeo but he keeps choking hard after getting 2 wins, tweek getting too cocky

[@lcg3092]

@@atlasgalor3583 He had 2 chances, he couldn`t on both, so I guess it ain`t so easy... I can assure you he wasn`t cocky after what happened in Evo. Maybe you can say he was choking, but it could also be Leo starting to get a better read on him. The fact is, that a big part of being a great player is having the mental fortitude to win a Bo5.

[@atlasgalor3583]

lcg3092 He was Cocky, Thinking he could Secure the set since he was up by 2 just like EVO... of course he was still careful and memorized what happened at EVO, but Tweek thinking it wouldn’t happen again messed up his momentum... I personally think Tweek and Mkleo are equally as good, since tweek has shown lots of dominance on mkleo.

[@GRIM0IREG00CH]

*Tweek wins first two games* Me: Oh wow he might actually win this *checks video length* Me: uh oh

[@Charmolution]

Are you talking about EVO Grand Finals or this one?

[@WeinersHG]

@@Charmolution both

[@GRIM0IREG00CH]

Charmolution unfortunately both. I love MKLeo but seeing this happen to Tweek twice is hard to watch

[@F3RAL3NTITY]

This is the truest comment of all time

[@chris40v17]

MKLEO’s idiotic fanboys need to admit that Joker is the best character already. Arsene does need a nerf

[@khalifrouf2579]

Up 2 - 0 against Leo, game 3 Tweek: Why do I hear boss music?

[@hi3209YT]

Cue The Battle for Everyone's Souls

[@JVGreen150]

when you think the 3rd phase is the final one, but the developers had a very different idea

[@seven8090]

I'm sorry, but it's Leo's main theme...

[@zbaltazard]

Did u post this from the Evo comments? Lol

[@deivis6684]

You never see it coming

[@Alexandre-gg7qd]

I think Leo likes going to losers cause he gets to play more lol

[@erickorduno3569]

I’m afraid you’re probably right

[@Matt-gl8ov]

who did he lose to? I didn't see the match

[@randyrakotinirina5924]

Matt samsora

[@TDursa]

Kameme actually won against leo convincingly tho

[@okthen1296]

Samsora got lucky and Leo SD his first stock early on one of the earlier matches of the set

[@7excess]

EVO 2019: The Sequel

[@BartlebyAndroid]

Simón Contreras [spoilers] just wait until they finally upload grand finals...

[@archicube]

EVO 2019: Deja Vu

[@SagradaMascarita]

More like the direct to VHS sequel.

[@Chuc503]

Electric Boogaloo

[@mondelsson]

Evo 2019 2 electric boogaloo

[@playerkiller5100]

EchoFox is actually telling Leo to go to losers in order for the thing to look hyped #smokeScreen

[@g0blinfractal472]

Damn dude i wss thinking the same thing !!!!

[@chris40v17]

MKLEO’s idiotic fanboys need to admit that Joker is the best character already. Arsene does need a nerf

[@lyuuy7477]

Chris you are just salty and can't accept that a player is just good. If joker were broken they'd be a lot more jokers in the top 32. Leo was the only joker in top 32 at evo

[@BottomBasher]

@@chris40v17 if Joker is really OP then why did void drown in pools? There are way more pokemon trainers than jokers in top 32.

[@SuperNero791]

@@chris40v17 nah, nerf Leo maybe

[@lgtagony8991]

Honestly Mkleo's mentality is one of the bests in e-sport

[@darklatios7775]

Why did u guys re-upload this video? we already saw it last week.

[@kazbeard]

LMAOOO

[@pollo20x6]

They shortened it this time for those who didn't want to sit through a lot of matches. Pretty solid edits.

[@chupathingy6472]

Daaaaaaaamnnn

[@gravyhippo]

DarkLatios777 omg

[@CarlosMartinez-xs2bn]

Ha! 😂

[@mrkrabs4976]

You gotta love MKleo but come on man, the same situation twice? I feel really bad for tweek since the exact same thing happened to him twice

[@franciscomartinez982]

The fucked up part isn't even about the reverse sweep, but the fashion in which MKLeo did it in twice. Poor Tweek. This has to really be eating him up.

[@pollo20x6]

Tweek vs MKleo is like racing against Usain Bolt with a 200 meter lead. It's all about hoping you can finish the race before he catches up, or in MKleo's case, figures you out.

[@xGoldenArrow]

Tweek just stops playing when he's ahead

[@allikohcysp]

This is why I love MKLeo.

[@justanotherchris1451]

Yeah it's gotta hurt

[@manuelf2519]

What does MKLeo has against Tweek? This is the second tournament in a row where he makes him believe he can win to just steamroll him afterwards

[@CapTanRomeo]

Tweek used to demolish him in smash 4 and Leo said once his worst match up in smash 4 was tweek

[@sagen06]

Leos a bully. Imma call the suicide hotline now. Poor Tweek. Shame on Leo.

[@danyjames7690]

It is called adapting. Leo is not a bully nor a bad person, he adapts fast to Tweek's explosive playstyle. Also, Tweek tends to loose concentration and fighting spirit once he starts loosing.

[@ericnunnellee6024]

Tweek is a huge lab rat, which leads to a lot of strong starts from him since he'll show up with some new tech or strategy, but Leo can adapt like nobody else and once he's got the download on Tweek's playstyle it's all over

[@LightDriveGaming]

Westley C demolish is a bit of a stretch

[@GoldenLINK1397]

I'm all for Leo but I just feel bad for Tweek man. Keep it up brother, you will defeat your demon!

[@Boomtendo4tw]

Ivan Cawn He used to beat him all the time in Smash 4

[@themange59]

I don't feel bad, dude is a cringy bm salt mine.

[@MH-yp4or]

Tweek's demon IS Leo lol

[@Drakkenlordz5419]

themange59 tweet?

[@victorflandin6813]

I hate leo bc he is a joker Player

[@jokerinsmash9155]

18:08 shoutout to the guys runnin in the back like Joker's win screen

[@angelr-t7608]

😂🤣

[@yum_3055]

At evo Leo reverse 3-0s tweek Leo: wanna see me do it again

[@vincentlira1956]

@@chrislopez5301 fuck off

[@Who-ru6hj]

@@chrislopez5301 Yeah get out of here

[@ryanwen1372]

What did the Chris Lopez guy even say

[@bruhm0ment6000]

6-0 the reset.

[@bonzymew_]

Me: Oh wow Tweek is up 2 games he probably has this one. Leo: _Leo Activated. Target Acquired._

[@thekingbradable]

*Download completed*

[@dhalgat374]

Initiating destruction

[@Hyperstridez]

Mk leo is so good at the game because he adapts to his opponent, he loses the first two sets, learns their playstyle, counters it and then makes the sets equal again. Insane.

[@dubudub876]

That drag down up air has killed more dreams than adulthood

[@ChickenCast100]

Can we just appreciate the joker victory screen imitation by the guys in the background at 18:09

[@mrheisenbird2691]

The most hilarious yet depressing set I have ever watched. Tweek is a broken man.

[@Matt-mv9dm]

Crushing to go up 2-0 in 2 tournaments and get steamrolled reverse 3-0

[@jaceee4154]

Matt1356 more crushing that it’s exactly what happened at evo too

[@thefuzzypickle8277]

@@hamzapper starting from leo's last stock

[@forevorseal]

_Twice_

[@godhand416]

@@jaceee4154 that's what he meant by "2 tournaments"

[@justaguy32112]

Tweek is quickly becoming the nairo to Leo’s Zero for ultimate...

[@meliodas8356]

The same thing happened to Tweek twice lol. I don't think its gonna happen

[@fish3997]

@Elijah McDaniel hes won how many majors in a row? hes already hella dominant in ultimate

[@rafa8911]

Zero won like 65 Smash 4 tournaments in a row. There is no arguing that MkLeo is the best player in Ultimate, and of course he is dominant, but Zero just was on another level.

[@tnert115]

@@fish3997 he's won 9 tourneys and he's on a 2 streak. only 51 off of zero lol

[@sorinnoctis652]

@Elijah McDaniel ken did for awhile but i agree zero is one of the greats.

[@bigdraco4712]

Just looking at tweeks reactions during the last 3 games is heartbreaking, Leo is so clutch that fighting him almost seems unfair

[@judaijaden]

Golden Experience Requiem strikes again.

[@449Pizana]

Lol

[@449Pizana]

And Diavolo keeps dying.

[@kiburedo]

Wha-

[@Abbaschand]

That's Satanael to you, pal!

[@The_GhostWind]

That’s Scarlet Arsene Requiem, Or SAR for short.

[@sharsasuke01]

A certain large Swede needs to take Squirtle notes from this set.

[@MrOmegabob]

Duke pewdiepie?

[@juanreyes6955]

@@MrOmegabob big leff

[@odindarkll3706]

More like every PT player that mains Ivy

[@djpinkteddy]

Ibrahimovic?

[@bryann3744]

pink teddy 😂😂

[@shsb2355]

Tweek has perfected the choke to “up 2-0 buts still loses” kill confirm.

[@candysell]

Tweek should wear a choke collar. It isn't the first time it's happened and based on these past 2 tournaments, it probably won't be the last.

[@ExceedRed]

17:44 "If he can snatch victory right now from the jaws of defeat, this will be a legendary tale-" _Proceeds to end his final stock_

[@Musicadonizetty]

The tale is over

[@chrisb8698]

I honestly think Leo is just messing with Tweek at this point...

[@thehunter1244]

That combo of first hit fair -> drag down dair -> up or down smash gotta be Leo's signature move, and it's frickin beautiful

[@manuelchavira3136]

it's like upsets are allowed for anyone else but when you're ranked #2, you're just not allowed to beat #1

[@chadhawley7050]

Not necessarily true, wizzrobe (#2) did beat Hbox (#5) at SNS5

[@nachorf5254]

@@chadhawley7050 i think u placed the numbers wrong

[@whodis4640]

Well, samsors's no2 now, and hes beaten leo several times

[@tosh3699]

Watching leo is amazing. His place style is so clean. When he looses the first matches i just take that as him downloading his opponents lol

[@super-nils]

Bullshit its tweek losing his focus...

[@BeretBay]

@@super-nils I think what you said is true. You can see his movement get slower. In Game 5 he picked up the pace, but when he was still a stock down.

[@victorokonkwo2041]

@@BeretBay That's what I noticed, by game 3 Leo started playing super fast and aggro, tweek couldn't keeo up with the momentum shift. I swear he does that on purpose

[@mangosauce2918]

Why they use evo footage for this vid

[@JB_CY]

So many 3-2s this tournament. Sooooo CLOSE!!

[@prosniperism]

MKLeo: You could not live with your failure... And where did that bring you? Back to me.

[@detective_0267]

dude Leo just plays with his food lul

[@fullskill7649]

No diga esas mamadas compa lo único que haces es crearle un montón de hate al pobre de leo

[@MerolLord]

@@fullskill7649 nah, esta cagado el comentario, el #1 siempre va a tener un poco de hate, y hay muchísima gente que lo apoya y le encanta verlo

[@fullskill7649]

@@MerolLord ya he visto y leído fácilmente al 60% de la comunidad tenerle hate por estas mamadas compi no está chido que tenga que aguantar eso por algo que el no hace

[@chris40v17]

No you idiot. Leo is just a clutch ass player

[@Obcsqwerty]

@@chris40v17 wtf is up with you

[@FaceFollower]

Nosepass vs ludicolo is always fun to watch

[@lucasargandona4658]

Pokenerd

[@macropyre1066]

Holy shit can’t unsee LMAO

[@lisandroreyes5255]

Goon LOL

[@piloswinegripado8308]

yeah, nosepass is really weak to grass and water :/

[@JB-tb9ho]

Pokeman of culture

[@e4rtmatters]

Twitch chat was having a literal panic attack the entire last 3 games.

[@fernes15]

Up 2 - 0 against Leo, game 3 Tweek: Why do I hear Giorno's Theme?

[@godhand416]

Leo haters: "jOkeR iS bRoKen, L30 iS cArRieD bY jOkEr." Me: "but there is no other joker in top 32 🤔"

[@DittyBoxin]

Big fax

[@Scrattah]

No one else is as good at joker but I do think joker is likely top 5 in the game at the least.

[@rogeliorodriguez8915]

Is true all stupids say, Leo is bad player Leo is carried by joker

[@ReedSavageTheGod]

Leo is a great player playing a broken character. Kind of like zero with vanilla smash 4 diddy.

[@godhand416]

@@ReedSavageTheGod a broken character that no other top player was able to bring to even top 32?

[@adamyohan]

Leo is destroying people in this tournament. Jesus christ. Marss, Zackary, and Nairo. Now Tweek.

[@thieney]

Destroying? Game 5 on a few of em

[@Kevin1229]

And Samsora, don't forget Samsora!

[@hamzapper]

@@Kevin1229 samsora beat leo???

[@omimon]

@@hamzapper No, Leo beat Samsora.

[@darluyfernandez4260]

@@hamzapper Leo beats Samsora. He got a comeback, just like the EVO. Leo is Zeus.

[@MaxMarriner]

*L E O A C T I V A T E D*

[@ThePromG]

Who else was constantly checking the video length to see if it could go to game 5

[@austininflorida]

I love the way these two keep improving by playing each other.

[@frozenpyromania7420]

Tweek has ptsd against Leo I swear, and honestly it wouldn’t surprise me, if you where just one hit away from proving you’re the best in the world and you fall short on the biggest stage in the fgc, that shit would be haunting.

[@monkkind]

Feels sad hearing all the "Joker should be nerfed" comments. Explain why he should be nerfed. There is only ONE Joker having results this good, and thats MKLeo. People should have learned how to get around Joker at this point if they want to win tournaments, like Kameme. The call for a nerf is just a call to nerf a good player, not the character itself. If the character is so broken, why is only one player showing results after months?

[@abdulrahmantabbaa1644]

CP Fan 123 you can say the same about there being only one ZSS having results and one Peach having results. The amount of people using a character is NEVER an accurate indication of how good or bad a character is. Period.

[@monkkind]

@@abdulrahmantabbaa1644 Exactly. I completely agree. Thats why when I see all the "nerf Joker" comments, it just hurts a little inside

[@chinocalderon11]

Tweek: *EVO ghosts intesifies* Leo is inevitable

[@Zireael.0]

Tweek: alright I'm up 2-0 I got this. Mkleo: Hold up, Give me a moment. *Rivers in the Desert starts playing* Tweek: OH SHI-

[@BeretBay]

*Boss music* 1) Rivers in the Desert 2) Ultimate Battle 3) *GIORNO'S PIANO*

[@AtMr8MinutesIsReal]

The ultimate boss music

[@The_GhostWind]

Mr. Música this is the power of requiem

[@soulcakelive]

i dont want joker nerfed but i feel so bad for tweek tho

[@Boomtendo4tw]

SoulCake they nerfed pokemon trainer and pt wasn’t even considered the best character

[@peppy619]

I think the only nerf joker "needs" is how long arsene lasts

[@sijio9718]

@@peppy619 and how much he gets arsene

[@xyliahvortex661]

And Arsene's damage output. Dair into Up-Smash kills from 40-50

[@sijio9718]

@@xyliahvortex661 which ofcourse is stupid for such an easy combo

[@francopellegrin0311]

Amazing match tweek!! But you need to learn how to control your mind, dont get nervous!!👊🏼👊🏼

[@masu5781]

Gotta admit, people are getting closer and closer to beating Leo’s Joker. Timing Arsene out is basically all you need to do and everyone is finally doing it. Sucks to see Tweek have a evo repeat again though, nice job Leo!

[@lonedoey1086]

Man Leo is amazing. Poor Tweek at the end though, it's almost like you could see it on his face how sad he was. Made me feel emotional, just imagining myself and his position with getting reversed 3-0 for the second time. Both of them played great

[@MrProtastic98]

It's so stupid how people keep crying for Joker nerfs. Both sets, this one and the EVO final were so close. I mean in EVO Tweek was one move away from a win. If he did that one move much fewer people would be crying now for Joker nerfs. Because of literally one move that didn't happen. Same thing here. If Tweek had won this set all those clowns would probably have stopped crying by now for Joker nerfs. Leo is the one making Joker broken. Not Joker Leo. There is zero reason to nerf Joker.

[@allofthelightsbykanyewest]

the endless bitching and nerf culture is why i hate the ultimate community

[@ravagestephens1233]

They need to nerf mkleo not joker

[@MrProtastic98]

@@allofthelightsbykanyewest But to be fair, that is not ultimate exclusive, not even video game exclusive. That's humanity in general.

[@MrProtastic98]

@@ravagestephens1233 Hard agree. :)

[@allofthelightsbykanyewest]

Tehiyok it’s especially prominent in this game, one where it’s still getting updated. and nintendo’s fanbase is already whiny as hell.

[@hyunjinjoe3400]

Leo has become my favorite Ultimate player

[@DripLordGogeta]

He just plays so stylish

[@MrArmandioux]

Leo the best player in the world 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽

[@Runmindor]

These two are polar opposites, Tweek starts like a locomotive but starts losing power as the set progresses, Leo starts as a bicycle but builds up power until he becomes the freakin death star, that’s why Tweek has so much trouble beating Leo.

[@Charmolution]

Tweek: "No one beats the breaks off me in Game 4 when I'm up 2-1 THREE tournaments in a row!"

[@nerfednash4581]

I swear the Guile theme kicks in every time Leo gets put down 0-2 in a set. He is actually ridiculous

[@cebada1272]

*Deja vu, i have been in this place before* Starts playing

[@rogeliorodriguez8915]

Jajajajajaja is perfect jajaja

[@GrayWoIf]

Leo the kinda guy you beat him twice you basically know you signed your own death.

[@cokelessname6631]

Tweek definitely a trump supporter after this and evo

[@dragonsword-onepiecemore8902]

😂😂😂😂

[@ethanv7330]

Tweek, can we DLC bob the builder? I need to build a wall.

[@pensologohesito]

Man, Tweek needs to learn how to deal with those nerves. They started showing right at game 3. At game 5 he was already super shook.

[@TheEmmiSkeleton]

For everyone saying to nerf Joker, why would they do such a thing hes already good the way it is, just because you see someone being good with a character doesnt mean its broken its just the player that makes it broken. For example samsora, “they should nerf him” but no just because hes the underdog and hasnt won many tournaments means that they should not nerf her, comenon peach has RNG with the bomb and the stichface. Or Tweek Pokemon Trainer wasnt much but all of a sudden tweek made pokemon trainer good, so that tells me that the player is the person that makes the characters good.

[@louelastic954]

15:26 He didn't survive because of the Ivysaur nerf. He tech'd the spike

[@Dr6or7KraftSingles]

He didnt tho lmfao

[@dolphinpal7863]

God I love Leo, keep doing what you’re doing man!

[@Jamm3z133]

I almost believed Tweek could make that comeback in Game 5, Leo crushing dreams again. Lets pray for Tweek guys

[@sezarsurge9037]

I was like he might do it. than mkleo pulled his signature move out and i was like. it is over

[@MrArmandioux]

Viva leo🇲🇽🇲🇽

[@R0B0ninjaPirate]

Tweek now feeling that Requiem effect.

[@YojimboJames]

The crowd support at the end was so heartbreaking. Once Leo goes god mode, there’s no stopping him.

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

Leo is a demon/god. But honestly i think everyone looks tired. Mostly marss. Leo looks tired too, but i know he can push through, which is why going into this losers bracket, i believed he was the only one to go up against, samsora. Good games though to top 8 conpetitors. They really put in what they had left.

[@GoInGcRz]

Man that ending was amazing yet sad for Tweek, and the way the crowd rallied behind him was just as wholesome.

[@eloypk150]

Look at mkleo’s face at 14:13 when he gets a 3 stock. Even he feels bad lol

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

RIVERS IN THE DESERT intensifies

[@Theodore1999]

Imagine u were 1 input away from winning last week, and one nerf away from winning this week, feel sorry for tweek.

[@darluyfernandez4260]

Ya es costumbre que Leo se vaya a Losers side solamente para conseguir más almas. Es un depredador nato.

[@jms214az]

Leo Activado

[@Nenesmash]

Diosito me lo bendiga uwu

[@fullcoffee950]

taco taco, burrito uwu

[@Psg0000]

Leo is humble, hard working, clearly the best, clutchGOD, rarely pops off, respects his opponents, comes from a different country than where he competes, Leo = smash Goku confirmed?

[@morriscameron10]

Does no one else find it crazy that a Pokémon is fighting a persona character 😂

[@coolninjabroguy]

Smash be like that 👋

[@bryangaldamez790]

Why do people cheer when leo is about to lose, but stfu when pulls through and wins?

[@Rasengan42]

Bryan Galdamez FR bro

[@jokkergar]

Fanboys

[@chibyo9914]

12 year old salt kids who think joker is broken. Lmao imagine thinking a character is broken when literally nobody else gets results with him

[@mandrag4286]

Rooting for the underdog to pull off an upset is pretty common.

[@minxy6121]

It's because of the potential upset. Everyone likes to root for the underdog because it's more hype tbh.

[@depressedman1580]

Something lingering in the air.. it feels menacing almost

[@Navman_]

The thing about Leo at these tournaments is; either he wins or you lose.

[@RXGTP]

Hey look, Tweek is the new Sebastian Vettel

[@Abbaschand]

Nope. He's more of a Fernando Alonso.

[@waverazor]

The comparison we never needed

[@epicbruh8655]

Tweek at here and evo has been like Leclerc in Bahrain and Austria. Looking on course to win but just falling short

[@RXGTP]

@@epicbruh8655 But Leclerc didn't screw up in those 2 races, unlike his 4 time world champion teammate who commited many stupid rookie mistakes in many decisive occasions last year and this year too thanks to the pressure he got after getting mentally broken after the crash at germany, and Tweek is practically screwing it up like him against the pressure of MkLeo, similar to Vettel who can't practically do anything against the pressure of Lewis Hamilton.

[@Bruno_BetaS98]

8:25 Leo just thinking what he is gonna have for dinner

[@nopenopenopepikachu5206]

In between that 4th and 5th match I saw the same expression on Tweek's face. I knew he had lost

[@BeretBay]

If there's one person capable of taking Leo's streak, it's Tweek. Everyone else is just warm up. He even let Samsora beat him so he could challenge Tweek earlier. This guy is the personification of Goku in smash.

[@raiden6122]

Mr. Música Marss beat him recently tho

[@amonmeilleur5775]

the downair to upsmash/downsmash confirm is so painful to watch

[@sijio9718]

Ikr

[@Mystravian]

Tis fast fall upair

[@Hybridwolve]

As soon as I saw Tweek win game 2 I looked at the time left and I knew Leo just repeated EVO.

[@amala1333]

Leo during character select before game 3: *download complete*

[@FatalVindicator]

Tweek almost brought that back. He looked much more composed than at EVO and if he can hone that aspect of his play, he could take mkleo's throne

[@ghiblifanta8634]

Mkleo is just a cheat. He looks so unbeatable. Must be frustrating to play against someone that good.

[@darluyfernandez4260]

Leo is Zeus.

[@didiqqz]

Samsora said no

[@GrEEnF1Re1]

@@didiqqz This didnt aged well~

[@BaconMix42]

nah, hes already showing vulnerability. 5 last hit last stock last game sets this tournament, and he lost to samsora. I seriously doubt he wins Shine, but knowing him he could find a way

[@BaconMix42]

I meant he lost 1 set to Samsora

[@waffletitan5669]

Tweek and MKLeo is my favorite mathcup to watch its so entertaining

[@kohlod]

17:42 Mk leo: well i'm gonna loose 17:53 just kidding lol

[@iifreddzx4619]

14:22 the nigga really just pull a woah 😂

[@leomendoza916]

"Look at how they massacred my boy"

[@kemmorter4732]

tweek was so awesome. I feel bad seeing him lose his spirit that last game

[@outlaw3572]

Tweek wishing that next time he plays Leo, it’s a best of 3 😂

[@XIIGaugeProductions]

“ if he can snatch victory right now out of the jaws defeat, he is tale will legen...” Leo: Slices tale in the speed of light

[@phy_]

Omg. MKLeo is my fav player and I was rooting for his win. But damn do I feel bad for tweek

[@BladeVoltz]

Tweek goes up 2-0 *Ultra Instinct theme starts playing*

[@fortressofsolitude2960]

Camping works against Joker, is his bigger weakness. Why Tweek and Marss doesn't do that?

[@Dr6or7KraftSingles]

Because tweek and marss are the most aggresive players in ultimate lmfao

[@Propenguinftw]

Camping might work against joker but it won’t work against mkleo. Camping only works if you can avoid your opponent effectively and that seems incredibly difficult

[@Random1567]

Camping doesn’t work THAT well against Joker. He has the speed to chase you down and the tools to be in your face with.

[@allofthelightsbykanyewest]

because they enjoy playing the game and not sitting there like a bitch.

[@fortressofsolitude2960]

@@Random1567 I still think they must do camping, at least a little bit to spend Arsene meter.

[@FlaskFlash]

> The technical skill of Zero (Im refering to how "good" he is at the game at a fundamental level, not to be confused with him being the most technical player) > The mentality of Ally. Doesn't matter if he is down 2 sets and is one hit from losing. He'll play the same or even better under pressure. > The clutch factor of Nairo. This can be said of Ally too, but I think Nairo's clutch is legendary. Don't think for a second you've won because he can evaporate your pj with a "random" dair at 20% or some shit like that. > The losers bracket buff of Mang0. There's nothing more frightening that MKLeo in losers AND losing the first matches. > The adaptability of Leffen. You want to win against MKLeo as fast as possible. The more time you give him to adapt the more difficult it will be to win against. That's what takes to be the true succesor of Zero since SSB4. Of course, Zero's legacy will never, ever, be reached. MKLeo is extremely good but Zero was indestructible to the point that after 2 years no one could see him losing a match. But still, a true legend.

[@ArbiterSky]

"Ah shit, here we go again."

[@neerajjoshi8395]

Oh man it's been 2 years

[@neerajjoshi8395]

Oh man it's been 3 years

[@Yampiey]

well, here we go again. typical Leo Style. "It's 0-2 for me?" ... ... ... DLC Download Complete 3-2 Incoming.

[@SplashEazy]

17:20 How would it be best comeback when Tweek was up 2 games to 1 early. He blew his lead and Leo evened it up. Leo being down 2 games and on his final stock at Evo and then winning 6 games in a row will NEVER be touched.

[@lil4skin867]

Leo is inevitable; idk how he does it