What’s the Difference Between Appropriation and Appreciation?

Cultural Appropriation: A triggering debate that permeates the modern conversation, both online and IRL. Why do fashion brands come under so much scrutiny when it comes to displaying clothing from ethnic backgrounds aside from their own? How much damage can cultural appropriation really do? And what’s the difference between appropriation and appreciation?
We asked London creatives from fashion, photography, art, magazines and music for their take on the term; and ask how we, as a society, can do better.
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[@gabfortin1976]

Dread-Locks are not race-specific. Sorry. Native-Americans had dreads. Hindus have dreads.

[@politikz8128]

GAB Vikings had dread locks as well. Thinking their exclusively African is 100% false

[@youngsavag666]

True they b lacks really think they own everything

[@tsxlis2299]

@@youngsavag666 🤣🤣 do we 🤦‍♂️ Stupid boy 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@wrathofel2796]

I can wear Dreads. I'm 100% Scandinavian (DNA test verified) and Vikings wore dreads.

[@avatar8953]

Politikz where are you getting this information from?

[@Melina-xk9gj]

I've literally come here, as a black girl, to see if maybe I'm not understanding...why I'm not raging when I see white people wearing things like box-braids...I still don't get it?? I've read the definitions and I am soo with standing up for the black community but this...? What is wrong with it? I believe as long as someone is taking the culture seriously, they are aware of the roots...and they present it in a respectful way then there's no problem. I really don't understand why people get dragged for things like this...

[@Melina-xk9gj]

Genuinely, I am asking for someone to try to "enlighten" me, but as of now I'm still not seeing eye-to-eye with this one.

[@user-sp5ck4fs1n]

Because you’re not crazy, and want to victimize yourself when you get the chance. Because you can see deeper than race and don’t absorb your whole being into it.

[@lindamonay1442]

Robyn H um what’s that supposed to mean ? It’s their culture if they feel like it’s disrespectful then it’s disrespectful.

[@user-sp5ck4fs1n]

Linda Monay no. That’s their opinion. And it meant exactly how you read it. I could look at something red and say if blue. Just because I’m wearing a red shirt doesn’t make me right. If they think it’s disrespectful then oh well they feel that way.

[@lindamonay1442]

Robyn H yes. Like I said if it’s disrespectful to them then it’s disrespectful. It’s their culture. it’s not okay to just “borrow” aspects from another culture. And that doesn’t mean their crazy or want to victimize their self. literally WHAT ?

[@STAHLSOUND]

Imagine someone tells you about them "owning a culture".

[@yeah_yeahwhatever]

Thanks for that. Well-put.

[@ajtam05]

Imagine the Chinese government calling the Italian government and saying they appropriated their noodles. Or calling the UK and saying they appropriated tea. Lol...the list could go on endlessly with so many countries. Oh wait...there was no such thing as a term called "cultural appropriation" for thousands & thousands of years. For some reason...the dumbest kids of our generation must know better. God I'm def not bringing any children into this cluster-fck of a world. We're all fkd if these are the issues we're discussing.

[@helloagain6243]

@@ajtam05 hahahahahahahahaha

[@ajtam05]

@@lolsarah4297 Oh so somehow your criteria for who and when a human can "copy" another one is the right one. You do realize how dumb that is and dangerous that way of thinking is in practice, right?

[@mizzou1016]

@@lolsarah4297 or wearing Asian hair

[@ShimmySchimeon]

Culture Appropriation is different with everyone, I still dont see a point of it.

[@vinceabbott5438]

To seem morally superior by inventing those morals and then telling you your's are out of style. It's the exact same thing that happens with fashion, someone decides this isn't trendy anymore and this new thing is where it's all at. Except instead of fashion it's being offended.

[@unnamed7158]

@@vinceabbott5438 By the same logic MLK, Darwin and Galileo should have stopped trying to seem superior by inventing new ideas and telling them old ones are wrong

[@poochy]

?? This thread is a bit garbage 😅 Imagine if a whole race of people colonized an area, and said your most important holiday is now about our god. And over time, the original meaning was lost. That’s what happened with Christmas. Jesus, by all estimations, was born in the summer. This is a different thing than building off of the ideas of others, even ideas that originated in cultures you don’t belong to. It is using meaningful cultural elements without understanding, and the decontextualization of these elements. Smh

[@JST03]

​@@rexventura4603 why didn't you just say you didn't know what culture appropriation was? What you described was cultural exchange not cultural appropriation. Culture appropriation is the inappropriate, ignorant, or disrespectful adaptation of a culture. If you were to portray a fraudulent performance of what you take them for, or mock them and their experiences by using something they hold dear such as a hairstyle, then it would be culture appropriation. As well as an uneducated representation of another culture to which one may also make fictitious, sometimes personal, claims. Especially to then be dismissive of the very same people you appropriated.

[@JST03]

It's different with everyone because people have the definition mixed up. I interpreted the good definition a bit more throughly than what soem would believe. Some have somehow taken it as merely partaking in another culture when that is not what it is.

[@BlueMasteress2012]

It feels to me in these cases as "cultural" is used instead of race/colour, as white people aren't allowed to complain about appropriation. I'm Norwegian and as white as they come, and nobody gives a flying-F about the way my cultural heritage is being used and abused all across the globe: The vikings. I'm proud of my heritage and the great things the vikings accomplished (though not so proud of the bad things they did), and I'm happy for others appreciate them too. Okay, so they didn't have horns on their helmets, the show Vikings gets most of their "facts" wrong, and Marvel?; they got the names correct and that's about it. But people love the viking culture and that makes me happy.

[@aasta6873]

ye i dont like how Disnay is seling "bunad" as frozen cloding

[@Draftspike]

Exactly! Also I’m British, where are my reparations you oppressor?! (Shit joke)

[@kali7906]

DGalaxy what show? Vikings? They did braid their hair though.

[@DaigodonDarkstar]

@@kali7906 ya in shitty pig tails all those intrakit braids have African origins non curly hair can't even stay in for more then a day lol we've been braiding since the dawn of humanity

[@kali7906]

DGalaxy pigtails? No they used French braids and tight rows. They also kept their hair clean and combed. Of course they wouldn’t wear them for days because they washed and combed their hair in between stylings.

[@linchan7271]

It's getting to a point where no one is allowed to show interest in other cultures apart from their own, but at the same time is expected to be an expert on every other culture than their own. People don't want others to be shallow with their beloved traditions. I get it. But people invent new things, new forms of thought through looking at something, putting it in a different context and creating something new. It's called creativity and human cultural evolution. And it does not mean that racism does not exist. It just means that culture is not a secluded thing in a box, especially not in a globalized world with access to the internet.... And if it is, it's kinda sad. It's creating segregation

[@sophiaalessandra5826]

i agree i think that the more people call out celebrities/people about wearing or showing another culture online, it causes a divide within different cultures. for me personally i would love to see people wear and do dances that my culture does because 1. it keeps the culture alive and 2. its fun to share with others. i also notice in the kpop community that kpop idols are being called out for wearing cornrows or braids, but i see it in kind of a positive way. if popular celebs show younger generations different cultures and styles wouldnt that allow the future to be more connected with each other?

[@jaellemorganrose5715]

@@sophiaalessandra5826 I agree, and I think the biggest thing is just acknowledging the roots of the practice. Culture is shared, any definition of culture you find will call it shared. It's meant to be shared, it should just also be respected. If we can respect and properly acknowledge cultures as we share them, we will be able to better connect with one another.

[@helloagain6243]

Humans cannot appropriate human culture

[@MY-cv2xr]

this illusion of control works well for Americans but when I hear stuff like this, as a Moroccan, I just laugh, Morocco is the ultimate example of a melting pot with berbers, arabs, africans, jewish, europeans n more cultures... racism exists but at least although people are different shades, they don't get harassed or killed like they do in the US because everybody gets along after centuries of sharing: hairstyles, clothing, dishes henné, jewels... it's all shared, people with less curly hair can do braids too without being called racists for it too... sometimes people of color in the US are the most toxic, i feel like it's almost a revenge trope for them to start these debates and create this modern form of racism. I hope they can find peace in their own heart one day and they can speed up the sharing process cause it's exhausting to see them trying to influence the whole world with such a wrong message.

[@Viviza1092]

FACTS

[@Vlad-sj5yw]

I would have liked an interview with a Scandinavian person about Americans turning one of their Gods into a superhero.

[@serpentupo655]

I can't speak for every Scandinavian, but I don't know a single person who believes in the old Nordic gods.

[@Vlad-sj5yw]

@@serpentupo655 No I wrote that as a tongue in cheek joke. As far as I know even the ones who officially are a part of the old Norse religion don't actually believe in the Gods but follow the values, traditions and stuff. It's still cultural though. A better example if it was meant to be a bit more serious would be the American Football team The Vikings. I'd still have a very hard time imagining a Scandinavian having anything against that though. Would be different if Scandinavians was a minority in the U.S. that had been discriminated against over a long period of time. Definitely makes a difference. It's the same with the girl in the Chinese dress. I've seen several videos of people interviewing in China and everyone loves it. But the Chinese minority in the U.S. that was discriminated against for so long of course have another relationship to it, or at least some of them.

[@tenitri5023]

Very good point.

[@lain4016]

Vlad I’m a Wiccan that very much believe in Norse mythology and I think that I would have accepted them embraceing our culture if they had given more insight in the religion and history behind it. Seeing major companies turning our gods and goddesses into action characters and superheroes is a disappointing. There are so many series about Vikings but none of them provide any realistic information about the history or origin. I’m more than happy sharing my opinions and tell me if you disagree! (This is coming from a Swedish Wiccan)

[@Vlad-sj5yw]

@@lain4016 It's an interesting point of view. Of course, since I don't follow any religion, the aspect about the Gods (although being a part of my culture) is not something I personally have anything against, except for maybe the apparent lack of understanding that it's still as much a part of *another* culture that is Americanized as many other things people seem to get offended by. The classic "I didn't want to go to the party but I'd like to have been asked" kinda deal. Being Danish and having studied history, I completely agree with you about the portrayal of vikings in popular media. Not only is it a part of my (our) history but if you on top of that actually care about history it's sometimes frustrating watching someone turn a sophisticated and intriguing society into a simple rabble of killers and rapists or war crazy maniacs. I rarely see anything about their amazing skills at establishing and maintaining trading with various cultures. Also, although I completely understand why they'd feel more angry about it because of the treatment Native Americans historically have had; if Washington *Redskins* is cultural appropriation, so is Minnesota *Vikings* And for plain curiosity, when you say you "believe in Norse mythology" do you mean that you actually believe the Gods are real, like physically (or metaphysically) real? That they have will (free or not) and the ability to influence our world? Or is it that you "just" follow their values and use their stories to better yourself, your life and so on? Sorry for the long comment, got interesting. (Edited a couple of typo's)

[@linchan7271]

At one point in history people thought that women wearing trousers was offensive. Culture evolves and there's nothing you can do about it

[@JST03]

This had nothing to do with culture appropriation. Cultures evolving or exchanging is not culture appropriation.

[@zawarudo93]

I really don’t get this because everyone in the world borrows from different cultures daily...whether that be food, music, customs etc. If people wear clothes from my culture to purposely make a mockery of it then I see a big issue but if someone wanted to simply wear a cultural costume/style with out any intent to offend then I don’t see any issue why someone of a separate culture can’t wear something from a different culture......

[@CaptainAmercia]

That’s how cultures develop and expand which is why you can link so many cultures to each other they separated and became something new which is beautiful. The Romans are a great example of a culture created from the elements of many different cultures.

[@alissab2496]

THIS

[@ylntsdynp251]

I don't get it either. The rest of the world has been doing this for thousands of years, why is this becoming a problem know?

[@thesparks00]

@@ylntsdynp251 YOUSAIDIT

[@gelou9680]

Exactly! I got told to read the history first and be more knowledgeable about it before having the hairstyle I really love otherwise, I'll cause issues. 🥴 Can't they take it positively and appreciate that I love their hairstyle rather than taking it as an offence? 😐

[@Moana_moo]

I am White from Europe and my grandpa was Morrocan and Nigerian. My Take on cultural appropriation:when someone takes something from another culture and claims they invented it. For example you can wear cornrows if you’re non black but don’t call them boxer braids. Just like fashion designers appropriated Romanian traditional clothing and claimed it was a new style. Like wear it as much as you want but don’t claim Christian Dior invented it

[@organges]

This comment needs to be seen by more people.

[@deleterkun2706]

Yeah this is a good definition.

[@JST03]

My interpretation: Culture appropriation is the inappropriate, ignorant, or disrespectful adaptation of a culture. If you were to portray a fraudulent performance of what you take them for, or mock them and their experiences by using something they hold dear such as a hairstyle, then it would be culture appropriation. As well as an uneducated representation of another culture to which one may also make fictitious, sometimes personal, claims. Especially to then be dismissive of the very same people you appropriated.

[@JoshuaOtusanya]

Wishing whoever is reading this a great day today :)

[@MisterCovek]

My culture wished people a great day first, so stop appropriating my culture.

[@plasticlope7995]

@@MisterCovek LMAO 💀

[@user-bd9sf9qz2i]

Ignore these toxic people, I wish you a great day too! :)

[@m.rosariomartinez9492]

Thank youuuuuuu!!! You wished me a great day today, 5 months ago. Hope you're having a nice day yourself, today, and that you're safe and well 🍀🍀🍀🍀

[@PIFF50]

Well... it’s a great day now Joshua ✊😎 Hope you had a great day 6 months ago & I wish you great days until your last 🙏❤️ Don’t forget to enjoy your evening as well, brutha ✊😎

[@codysimpson143megan]

How can you look at someone who is wearing something or has a certain hairstyle that is not part of their own culture and assume they're being hateful(if they clearly aren't acting that way or making fun of it I mean😊) . Wouldn't someone who is doing this be appreciating it since they chose to wear it? Whenever I wear traditional indian clothes (sarees, salwar kameez) on hindu festivals , or even just casual kurtis and palazzo, sometimes people think I'm trying to be something I'm not. I'm not trying to be Indian. I got these clothes because my husband and I are hindu and we appreciate his own culture. As long as you acknowledge where it comes from and aren't being hateful I don't even understand why this is even a thing... People in india really love seeing foreigners wear their clothes in a respectful way

[@boomborgoyari5781]

I'm an indian and only cultural appreciation exists here. The concept of this "cultural appropriation" and hate towards people adopting other's culture is very much foreign and unheard of.

[@lolsarah4297]

maybe because you were wearing it in an appropriate setting

[@boomborgoyari5781]

@@lolsarah4297 and what would be the "inappropriate setting"

[@Mighty.Matcha.]

@@boomborgoyari5781 yea. It’s good you guys aren’t affected by this whole issue. Which IMO is not even an issue but a product of people who just wants to start shit and discriminate other people for fun.

[@fwoop4848]

Indian here! I don’t mind foreigners wearing Indian traditional clothes as long as you appreciate the culture and people behind it and not just because it’s a trend or something, and also acknowledge you’re not actually Indian, basically don’t be like Oli London lol

[@JotMaxi]

Yep, after having another debate about this enter my life I've come to study the issue again and am reassured by the 95% of people who agree that those who point the finger when it comes to cultural appropriation are causing another form of racism. Culture is to be shared. Making it exclusive on a personal level is elitist which is going full circle and becoming just like the capitalists who really do exploit minority cultures. Of course it's important to know what we are representing, where it came from and how it might be seen by others, but this should be done through kind education not anti-racist racism which just breeds hate. None of us chose where we were born and any of us could be any of us.

[@thesparks00]

agree.

[@rsantana389]

It's funny because I consider myself pretty progressive but I still don't understand the concept of cultural appropriation, it seems such a conservative concept to me. Groups of people demanding others immunity to their symbols, symbols that are circunstancial and relative. Embracing life means experimentation, expression, performativity, transformation, etc. As long as you are not trying to be offensive (and following the law) what's the problem about dressing the way you want? Isn't that what it means to live in a free society? I think the real problem for minority groups is racism and social inequality.

[@chaennelchaennel]

I perfectly agree.

[@helloagain6243]

I love you

[@lolsarah4297]

why are people like you so entitled to OTHER peoples culture??

[@self..destroyer]

'Cherry picking clothing and items from other cultures, using references to ultimately sell products - Err yeah, that"s how fashion has been operating since the dawn of fashion

[@dragonofepics7324]

Ivan FKK More like the dawn of the fashion industry. Not disagreeing but fashion used to not be an industry that had fashion designers. It was mainly just women at home(in the west atleast) for weeks to finish one garment. The only thing close to fashion designers back then was tailors. Atleast tailors did actual work and has actual skill. But yeah people should really just not take the fashion industry seriously. People should pay attention to the actual cases like when a fashion magazine sold a blatant ripoff of a garment this Native American women’s ancestor made.

[@gretchenshopadoodledoo8126]

That doesn’t mean it’s a good thing...

[@nakkadu]

@@gretchenshopadoodledoo8126 but it doesn't matter....people can wear what they like

[@gretchenshopadoodledoo8126]

Nakadu the point is that white people make fun of and discriminate against cultural clothing all the time, but then it only becomes trendy when a white person does it. So it’s basically saying “We like your stuff but we don’t like you and we aren’t going to let you profit off of the thing you created”

[@nakkadu]

@@gretchenshopadoodledoo8126 yeah....making fun of something is different....but white people are literally being told they can't have dreads or wear hooped earrings.....which is so stupid.

[@citytrees1752]

The brilliance of extremely young uninformed people being given a platform to express undeveloped ignorant opinions.

[@KimberlyLetsGo]

@... can you explain that?

[@arimdu1408]

As a black man watching a black woman with straight pink hair tell me about cultural appropriation sound insaine and laughable

[@tobyloveard380]

in my opinion, cultural appropriation is when someone takes something from another culture and calls it their own. there was a video where a black woman went inside a boba shop asking for the manager who was ASIAN saying they're culturally appropriating because boba is an African thing when in reality it originated in Taiwan. cultural appreciation is when someone takes something from a different culture and spreads its good name as well as maybe supporting the person of that culture (eg: getting a Chinese takeout from a Chinese business).

[@boomborgoyari5781]

it's something ignorant and narrow minded people created.

[@TheBadGuy15]

I think I remember seeing that somewhere but it wasn’t because of the boba. The one I read was upset because she looked up black owned businesses and that was in there, she got upset because the owners weren’t black. Could be a completely separate case

[@AWMusicChannel]

You could easily be a historian and still could not answer the origin of many things. Chinese people would say that spaghetti was inspired by Chinese noodle while others consider it was from middle east-west Asia. Chinese accused Dior appropriated their skirt whereas similar style appeared far early from the Egyptian culture while the martial wool was not a east Chinese thing until much later. The problem of culture appropriation is ignorant people gate keep and police on others while they actually know nothing.

[@Apriluser]

Yes. It’s like Black people straightening their hair so that they look like the rest of the world, whether Asian, Caucasian, etc.

[@twiceuuimida3847]

This reminds me of the time this Dutch guy called Jans Roosgen apparently claimed that he discovered injera in 2003 (a well known food in Ethiopia) even though we've been eating it for way longer than that.💀💀. Hoping for karma to get him back.

[@jannchavez9257]

What the hell, is culture copyrighted? Damn, I thought I'm living in a globalist world.

[@doodlemunchkin2222]

So...tattoos. Bald hairstyles. Feathers. Guess we can’t touch those anymore.

[@linchan7271]

I guess black americans breathe air. Maybe we should stop with that too

[@bribri6300]

@@linchan7271 You're obsessed with black ppl aren't you?

[@Hello-rp4gy]

@@bribri6300 they are literally the ones that bitch and moan the most about cultural appropriation, i've never seen any other country or culture give two fuck about This stuff

[@unnamed7158]

@@linchan7271 Only took a short scroll to find that all the weird racist undertones in the comments were by... racists! Don't forget you are from a country that puts minorities in camps and that regularly steals and resells western products.

[@JST03]

​​@@linchan7271 "Culture appropriation is not a new concept, nor specific to the US. The term is relatively new, but not the concept. People of the states, including black people, love to share our culture. However, no group of people likes culture appropriation. Yall just choose to listen to the few closeminded voices rather than the rest of us telling you different.

[@bchandruu]

So now every time I wear a suit and or consumed antibiotic, I need to give credit to Brits. That tiring.

[@gelou9680]

Ikr 🥴😂

[@vipermad358]

Too bad. Them's the "rules"!😂

[@gemmarium4337]

This video summed up: if you are white you are not allowed to wear anything of any culture other than stereotypical European styles.

[@daca6094]

You can't police this kind of thing. That would literally be thought policing.

[@karallynstreit]

and yet, that is what is happening. It's reminiscent of 1984.

[@angeiang7006]

this is actually communist behavior

[@unnamed7158]

to an extent true

[@dougtaylor2803]

Well, Joe Biden could establish a huge bureaucracy, funded by more taxes, to literally investigate allegations of cultural appropriation and then levy fines, the funds from which could help pay for more investigators. This is the "paradise" that the totalitarian woke folk would love to impose.

[@benjenlf3927]

Those people probably don't even know their own culture. Yet to talk about ''owning'' a culture. That means nothing.

[@scottbishop6471]

This comment is severely under liked.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

The left says "culture" when they mean "race" to avoid showing how racist they are.

[@tieflingcorpse9817]

And you do?

[@crazycutielious]

@@Dennis-nc3vw no thats not true. There was just a “debate” over Congolese people wearing traditional Nigerian clothing to their own weddings. And they’re all black people. So many cultures in the world. Even within the white race theres different cultures and traditions.

[@mars7612]

When people describe cultural appropriation like this and try to set all of these knit picky guidelines to cultural use, it divides humans even more. A beautiful part of humanity and how intertwined we are is how we can share and exchange cultures (like we've been doing for literally thousands of years). So, to act this way about culture is just segregative and divisive.

[@growingsoul30]

We need to share culture. That’s what it is to be human. Embrace our differences so we can come together.

[@krissmi5041]

you mean exploiting minority civilizations for the benefit of colonizers...? don't forget that part of History. slavery didnt end too long ago, and many countries got independence in the 1900s... many of these peoples' uniqueness were exploited, so sue them for wanted to retain their beloved traditions. when will the entitledness end

[@mars7612]

@@krissmi5041 I wasn't talking about or addressing any of that at ALL.. wrong comment to bring that up on 🤷‍♀️ My point was completely unrelated.

[@gemer6994]

Nah man as a German i am VERY offended by 1: people driving German cars like Mercedes or volkswagen 2: Russia or other countries trying to start world wars (skill issue Russia lmao)

[@Admiral_Bongo]

@@gemer6994 As a Russian, I'm offended by Finns outdrinking us.

[@PeteS_1994]

The black girl has hair that belongs to a different culture from her originally.

[@NihilVacant]

I'm curious, what culture is this? Because I've seen that black people said that is black culture

[@PIFF50]

Olga Nihil Pondo it’s American culture

[@monazite5488]

@@PIFF50 what does american culture refer to?

[@PIFF50]

@@monazite5488 it’s a melting pot of all cultures

[@bribri6300]

It's most likely synthetic and straight hair is genetic.

[@W..949]

Only people of colours culture can be appropriated though right?

[@AbsoluteMiniacGena]

Surely the black woman with the pink hair haas taken that from the sub culture of punks. I just wonder if she would get angry if I, belonging to the punk sub culture were to wear corn row braids in my hair!

[@Jojo-sx5ec]

Got it in one my friend! A Muslim girl can wear western jeans,t-shirt and have her hair loose and skin on display and that is fine. She may be incoperating western culture into her style,in fact her entire aesthetic may be entirely western, but that still doesn't count as appropriation. But if a white girl admires another culture and, say,gets her hands tattooed with henna paint then that is cultural appropriation and is disrespectful and offensive. Remember Obviously racism against whites doesn't exist. Obviously western culture cannot be appropriated. Remember if you're white you can't play the victim card. If you're white you will always be the villain when it comes to race.

[@pierrelecoq4945]

@@Jojo-sx5ec a bit cringy but i agree with you, this is ridiculous

[@imjustnia1692]

Count Hustle not true

[@W..949]

@@hustle6850 your name "count" is a title of European nobility, your picture is from one of the most successful pieces of european literature in history and the language you speak is European..... is none of that white culture?

[@yeah_yeahwhatever]

Oh, I get it. Some people can do whatever they want because they're "living their truth", and other people have to do what other people want because someone's offended. Seems to make complete sense.

[@yeah_yeahwhatever]

@Roxie Rockstar101🤟🏼 Hey, make up whatever rules you want, but it's okay.

[@yeah_yeahwhatever]

@Roxie Rockstar101🤟🏼 Of course it is, because you say so. And who are you? No better than me. So sell your crap somewhere else. Travel to a few countries, read some history books, and stop letting today's media do your thinking for you.

[@yeah_yeahwhatever]

@Roxie Rockstar101🤟🏼 You're a bumper sticker. Give it ten years, the world will show you.

[@yeah_yeahwhatever]

@Roxie Rockstar101🤟🏼 World traveler, anthropology and English Lit major, so you and your agenda can suck it.

[@yeah_yeahwhatever]

@Roxie Rockstar101🤟🏼 No one has to do what you want.

[@DoritosHotSauce]

Black people didn’t invent dreads and braids. Vikings and Celts did it in their culture too.

[@JST03]

My google didn't say that. Black people invented it. Nonetheless, that has little to do with what culture appropriation is anyways seeing as it's a bit more than simply wearing something.

[@DoritosHotSauce]

@@JST03 no one cares what your google doesn’t say when millions know it in history. Dread locks and braids are not race specific. You don’t know much about history and culture in other countries clearly.

[@ksc7957]

Imagine someone tells you that you should just stay in your culture and dont step out of line.

[@gr33kfr3ak8]

In that case, I’m Greek, I want democracy back.

[@linchan7271]

You guys mix up "belonging to a culture" and "owning a culture"....

[@andytanaka9136]

Americans: THATS NOT YOUR CULTURE!!! literally every one else in the world: nice outfit

[@aotgoat3267]

😂😂

[@theshockerpit7274]

I look something up and apparently braids originate from every single country even Europeans had braids

[@adiellaishere]

When I see ppl wearing black hairstyles I feel proud not offended Edit : I understand y'all's points of view if it's pulled off well then I feel proud but if not then I would be embarrassed as well. I think we shouldn't be bashing other races for wearing our hairstyles but asking them to be informed and respect black culture yk.

[@OsweebMosley]

I feel embarrassed.

[@superiorpanda6449]

@@OsweebMosley why? It’s not embarrassing if they’re doing the hairstyle justice

[@keobooks]

Yeah like if ur gonna do it do it right

[@OsweebMosley]

@@superiorpanda6449 It's embarrassing.

[@superiorpanda6449]

@@OsweebMosley You’re the only one that’s embarrassed

[@YoungTthailand]

When I was a kid, I learned English from Soul music. As a Thai, I'm very happy to see people of other nationalities doing Thai Boxing (Muay Thai). And as a tourguide, I'm very glad when my clients (no matter where they're from) buy Muay Thai shorts and bring them home for Holloween or for any costume party. Life is too short to be offended. Enjoy your culture and open it to others.

[@deleterkun2706]

I think that’s amazing!! I think it’s even a subculture of English language learning to have someone learn through soul or because of rap or something. I’m a black person and I think that’s cool.

[@fabrizio483]

Well, who's the Pope of black people who could authorize these uses?

[@bassbird]

Ja Rule

[@rhettk8527]

Chief Keef

[@helloagain6243]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@edennis8578]

My Irish ancestors were making hoop earrings 4,000 years ago, so you owe me an apology, as well as Italians, Koreans, Chinese, Egyptians, and people from India. That's most of the world's population.

[@christophchristoph6720]

I'm sorry

[@christophchristoph6720]

I'm so glad you are here! I was just about to take a shot of Irish whiskey when it dawned on me did I get permission from the Irish to drink there whiskey? Do I understand the deep spiritual significance it has to the Irish shamans who use it in there druid pub rituals? So I ask you with all due respect sir, do I have the permission of your people to drink the soma ?

[@Trumpmurica]

Imagine letting a black person telling you you can’t wear dreadlocks 😂😂😂

[@taeyongs_tiny_waist]

I'm black but I gotta say you're right

[@Brindlebrother]

I take it a step further. I wear dreadsocks.

[@superiorpanda6449]

There’s nothing wrong with wearing locs. Anyone can wear them but when a black person wears them there’s always a bad stigma that follows. “They must be a thug.” For example when Zendaya wore locs someone had the gall to say she looked like she smelled like oil. Most people honestly don’t know what cultural appropriation is and just want so say it. Wearing locs isn’t cultural appropriation. But there’s a problem when Miley can wear locs and still be Miley, however Zendaya wears locs and she’s a smelly gas mechanic. People just want equality. so when for example I’m called ghetto for wearing nails and Sarah is just fashionable, people would rather gate keep nails all together. It’s more like “If we can’t be the same then you can’t do it”. It’s childish but when you’re desperate for a solution anything goes

[@imsogirly5702]

@@superiorpanda6449 preach

[@bchandruu]

Mostly won’t and well knowledgeable in world cultures. This is tiny minority given platform by VICE. Not wrong but that doesn’t mean not immune from backlash

[@mynamemylastname1835]

Will you all refuse the antidote for corona virus when another "culture" invents it and make it???

[@brianl7535]

There are obviously too many people in this world who love getting offended by everything, the key is to have a positive outlook in life and see the lighter side of things. If someone does something silly according to your culture or your ways of living, simply have a laugh because they may have a different interpretation or view to you. There is no need to jump straight to the conclusion of "exploitation" and play victim. We need more people in this world to be strong minded, stand for your way of thinking, your values, but also be willing to listen to one another and use each other's ideas to advance together.

[@mixrable1212]

I love it when people wear Indian clothing but are not Indians, because the alternative would be to tell them to stick to their own kind which sounds like something the kkk would say

[@kaydence9799]

Are you comparing the KKK to someone appropriating your culture🙃 you do know what the KKK did right ? People aren’t lynching other people because they can’t wear certain clothes goofy🤣 the kkk doesn’t even have nothing to do with you so why would you compare it🤣 that’s embarrassing💀

[@mars7612]

@@kaydence9799 Bruh chill, they were just making a comparison. They were just stating that if you say to someone "oh you can't wear that, stick to your own kind" it sounds mildly racist and segregative. Which is true.

[@imsogirly5702]

@@kaydence9799 exactly

[@bchandruu]

@@mars7612 true indeed.

[@helloagain6243]

@@kaydence9799 and now you silent again ha

[@iloveyouamberappel]

Appropriation isn't a real thing. As long as you don't hurt others do/wear what makes you happy.

[@HG-yu7eq]

How can you say it’s not a real thing and then say as long as your not hurting others it’s okay. Cultural appropriation hurts other so it’s valid.

[@iloveyouamberappel]

@@HG-yu7eq What? Appropriation isn't a thing. Wear dreads, it's not appropriation. Wear a traditional Chinese dress. Hell even wear a headdress. I am talking about physical pain or maybe something that is clearly offensive, like a shirt that says "I hate (insert group) not about someone getting upset because a white girl put a dress that isn't her culture.

[@aasta6873]

i dont think coltural people like when people rake from ther coltuer

[@iloveyouamberappel]

@@aasta6873 cultural people?

[@helloagain6243]

@@aasta6873 how many apples does John have? 😂

[@FijiLaw]

Vice at it again encouraging people with mental disorders, in this case victim mentality, learn to share cultures and appreciate others who admire different cultures, why so greedy and bitter? I see black artists imitating other cultures too and no one throws a hissy fuss

[@robertlanc2239]

So, if I wear saddles, I have to include a disclaimer that I spoke to an Egyptian, and got their approval. Is that how this outrageous stealing of identity is supposed to work? Let me know when the form has be completed so I can get proper authorization, or what??? You'll burn my house down, right?

[@unnamed7158]

Cultural appropriation is when you make money from another culture while at the same time preventing someone from that culture to earn a living and claim it came from your culture or you disrespect the culture.

[@owlfrogelephants]

​@@unnamed7158I think renaming the term to cultural exploitation or paving would greatly help

[@lazuriidkwhattoputhere8719]

As an Asian, I give everyone the Cultural Appropriation Pass

[@lazuriidkwhattoputhere8719]

@Brazilian Goddess True I don't live in the states (I live in the Philippines) and I never heard of Cultural Appropriation until now. I do not understand what is wrong with just doing another culture. If these guys are truly liberals they would think a culture doesn't have a boundary and that everyone can openly celebrate it

[@tenitri5023]

Hermit Crab *bows* sank you very much sensei. Me rike your culture very much. 🥡🥢🍚🐲🍱🥋

[@robloxianalamat1019]

Tenitri wtf he’s a Filipino

[@plasticlope7995]

FR nobody in Asia cares. Some of us are actually grateful that people notice our cultures.

[@plasticlope7995]

@Ada i went to bali and got dread locks there xD

[@HEXhibitionist]

Indeed, how dare Asians, Africans, south Americans etc. wear Levi's jeans. You're mocking the North Americans here.

[@ripscuds4467]

0:50 what the hell was she saying, she made no sense.

[@citytrees1752]

none of it makes any sense. these are confused kids who have been given a platform to share undeveloped and uninformed opinions.

[@yahya123ftw]

The fact that she thinks Bella badid wearing a “headdress that resembles the hijab” at 2:00 is “doing it right” (1:52) is actually insane. Associating the hijab with an almost naked model wearing lingerie is the complete opposite of what the hijab stands for. She doesn’t know what she’s talking about. In fact everyone in this video are being ridiculous. Anyone can wear what they want. Who exactly do you ask permission to wear something cultural? As long as your not wearing something cultural to disrespect it then what does it matter. Wear what you want!

[@ee.es00]

The whole world has appropriated european modern technology. So either renounce that or shut up.

[@hedifakhfakh2653]

By definition cultural means "relating to the ideas, customs, and social behavior of a society" basically meaning how we act how we dress ect; so for example if I go to Japan to live their I would start to adapt their culture in to my daily life and at some point it will be a part of my culture so no cultural appropriation is not thing. Oh and so you dont come at me saying "your white trash" I am Arab :)

[@gammaraider]

Thanks Vice, I learned a lot. You don't just get to pick and choose from someone else's cultural heritage like it's a gift shop. That's why I expect anyone that feels like they really need to wear jeans, drive a car, or wear glasses, to tell the people around them the story behind those things. They are proud symbols of my cultural heritage as a European and it's deeply inappropriate when other people just use them as if they were theirs.

[@helloagain6243]

Yeah the comment sections will be the next to go 😂

[@johnnytrapantino78]

This. People are only looking at what others are doing but never considering their own actions. When I moved to the States, was my family supposed to only eat Ukranian food and dress in traditional Ukranian clothing and only speak Ukranian and celebrate Ukranian holidays? Go feed the hungry or take care of orphans, things that actually matter, some person having dreads is not a real issue.

[@ruzzsverion2728]

Agreed, black people needs to stop using cars.

[@bapanxume6805]

i dont think jeans and glasses are are cultural attires but nice try tho 😂.

[@mikeystorm8124]

Yep on point

[@RetroMagnus761]

Sharing and appreciating other cultures is a concept that has been around for thousands of years. It's what makes us human. No group of people born into a certain ethnicity "owns" any specific part of a "culture". That's not how society works.

[@sarahcooper5741]

I’ve been watching a lot of videos about this topic lately because I’m white and have been considering dreading my hair. I have my own reasons for it, but the majority of videos I see are from black creators who say that as long as you are respectful and give credit to its origins then it’s okay. And also not to perpetuate negative stereotypes. I was always confused by people getting upset about locks but I still try to learn. They say it’s because they get discriminated for it but if more people do it and acknowledge the roots of it then wouldn’t it normalize it and help get rid of that discrimination? I fully plan to acknowledge the roots of the hairstyle and keep my hair clean and tidy to not fuel those negative stereotypes and I can only see that as a helpful thing at this point. I also heavily stand up for the black community in the best ways I know how. I went to several BLM marches this year, I’ve had difficult conversations about race with other white people, I voted in this election as well. I want this hairstyle because it would benefit me in certain ways, and I think it is absolutely beautiful. I just hope I don’t run into too many people pointing fingers and saying “appropriation” without actually wanting to hear my side because that would make me want to get rid of my locks.

[@Mondo.]

Just do it unless you have

[@babymae2222]

This is exactly what I’ve been feeling. I love corn rolls because it keeps my hair out of my face and I love the way it looks. But why can’t we be allowed to wear the hairstyle and educate the world with it?

[@chaennelchaennel]

@@babymae2222 I perfectly agree! I don't get it!! This became reversed discrimination, like, what the heck? If everyone starts to braid their hair at the African style, for example, then our beloved Africans would not get anymore discriminated because of their hairstyle... I mean, so it is okay to use it as you give credits?? should a put a tag on my hair? 😂😂

[@user-lt3nx2ys6u]

Tbh they will cast the stone first before they will listen to you. You will expend your own happiness, if you constantly try to find validation from others.

[@V305G]

It’s a free country. No one truly owns a culture. Locks came from the Vikings, which came from the Egyptians and so on. This is just liberal, PC crap. They always have to find something wrong with the world and create an outrage

[@niuu6281]

I'm indonesian and honestly cant relate with culture appropiation things. When i was in school, there was a day that students need to dress up with indonesian's traditional outfit. You can dress up with javanese's traditional outfit, balinese's tradutional outfit or any traditional outfit. It not must be perfect and play-by-play. With these costumes we went parade around school area. Sometimes we also did fashion show. As long as i remember, this activity also has been done by kids in playgroup. Just sharing. Sorry for my bad english

[@ravaprasetyo7368]

Ikr, Indonesians can only relate with cultural appreciation

[@Yayanhaan123]

Basicly because our ideology (Pancasila) had high tolerance value. That's make us feel happy, proud etc when see another foreign people appreciate through learn and practice indonesian culture. As long as they respect the culture. And more, our nation had a lot of aculturated / mixed / used another culture like, mie gomak, mie soa, kwee tiaw , mie ayam (the roots of noodel cuisine from china), rijstafel (indonesian cuisine with european-dutch style eating), jengki house (architecture style after independence that put american style housing in it), modern east indonesian music that using afro culture (mostly rap/hip hop or reggae) but the lyric was East indonesian Accent to show life style, love life and proud as east indonesian and more .

[@fofosyrie3798]

Just as a Muslim girl let me just say Bella hadid wearing hijab and lingerie ist not okey Hijab is about covering your body Hijab is also not a part of the Palestinian culture hijab is a part of my Religion Maybe bring educated people next time you do a video like this

[@user-sm5zk9ir3j]

Bella's dad is Palestinian... And Muslim...

[@fofosyrie3798]

@@user-sm5zk9ir3j yeah but hijab is not something that is a part of the Palestinian culture Hijab is religion and women wear that to cover their bodies not to show lingerie thats why it's wrong and offensive

[@PIFF50]

🇺🇸 is a free country though... you’re free to live however you wish. As am I. While we don’t have the right to enforce our perspectives on others... I’m glad that you shared your points of view. Also, VICE is a terrible news source. Particularly, on social issues. I would even argue that VICE journalism is largely responsible for increasing the gap between far left ideologies and everyone else... VICE journalism is an ideological pandemic that spreads the regressive world views of fringe groups. But, the journalists who founded it in the beginning during the isis days were groundbreaking. & now I perpetually chase that dragon ... 🤷‍♂️

[@fofosyrie3798]

@@PIFF50 that's great I totally agree with every point (not the first one because I am not American and also from an outsider perspective America doesn't seem like a free country to me but u do u boo believe in whatever u wanna believe in) yeah vice is not the greatest news source because if they were they would've cut that part from the video but we all know they r in it for the money sooooo Yeah i didn't attack anyone BUT that specific item was highly offensive and I have the right to Express my opinion and educate ppl about the topic Have a nice day and yeah we should all respect each other and our beliefs ✌🏽✌🏽❤

[@zo5679]

@@fofosyrie3798 its feels strange when i see her using hijab with lingerie lol.

[@jpvanden1]

No one owns culture, including clothing, hair, and decoration styles. Here is how to deal with the 'issue'. Step 1: You dress how you want, cook what you want, decorate how you want to, etc, according to your individual tastes and preferences. Step 2: If anyone complains about it, or accuses you of 'appropriating culture', you politely tell them to fuck right off. Step 3: If Step 2 doesn't quiet the racist screeching about appropriating because only people of a certain race or culture 'own' a thing, you simply ignore the idiocy and continue to do you. As a bonus, feel free to mock them, either openly or in private, as is deserved.

[@CosplayInternationalisGroup]

People have a problem with this concept precisely because the majority from that culture is encouraging those of the "dominant"(no one should consider their culture, or a culture dominant, or more important] culture to wear, use, and learn about their way of life. But what happens/happening is the minority has an actual problem with it or is offended when they misrecognize something that is the start of mutual understanding, harmony, and acceptance as offensive. I'm living in china and a year or so ago people here were outraged because the west had someone of chinese haritage represent china/chinese culture. They were outraged because they saw that person as not beautiful and a poor representation of chinese traditional beauty. For people in the west it was a choice of someone that was beautiful according to standards of accepting wemon for their naturual beauty along with correctly choosing a model with the correct heritage. Did they look into why the west chose to do so? no, the most didn't. Did the west look into what china would find appropriate, or culturally accurate? no, most companies wont. I brought that up because; is it always correct for us to assert our ways of thinking, or ideals on another's culture, just because our's, the west's, the US's culture demands it based on only our past? It is almost as if the say, feelings, or even the original culture doesn't truly matter to those who aren't careful about mislabeling what is and isn't appropriate and offensive. Most of the time ending up with the origin being labaled, "ignorant". In another video on youtube about the same subject, a lady commented on people being penalized for wearing a certain style, or dressing a certain way. While on the other hand celebrities being idolized for the same style, even if that style isn't in their ancestor's culture. I agree that this is diabolical. But are we going about it the right way? Is making sure that two group's cultures are separated going to help? Will keeping a group of people of a "dominant" culture away from a culture they previously made fun of help? Do two groups of humans not always find ways to be ignorant of the other, or in denial of the other throughout history? Will those people truly come to appreciate it if they don't try other cultures, or things themselves? could you appreciate a privelage, a food, or a place without experiencing it yourself? If you are kept in the dark about something, you will more likely feel paranoid about it, curious about it, or even satirical towards it. Sadly people are innately afraid of things they don't know. Kid's will often make fun of things they are unaware of, thinking it is weird. Think about it this way, if people appreciated, or were open to other cultures in the first place, there probably would be less of a problem now. Why perpetuate the problem, or why keep continuing a cycle of misunderstanding, and guard dogging against outsiders. Dont keep thinking that people in china, or other countries are ignorant of social issues. Here in china, most universities require a professore to have experience abroad in the west, or such. china has thousands of years of history. history ranging from oppressing thier own minorities, 75 minorities, not including the "Han". and being a punching bag of the west. how do people believe that they don't have the right to choose who can take interest in their culture? is the west assuming the rest of the world is too dumb to have a word about this topic? People in the US, West, need to be careful of only seeing their world. And be more open to the problems and wishes of the rest of the world. Sometimes your problems might seem like a mountain. In reality it is only one, in a range of mountains. People need to be careful of creating more locks on doors that would otherwise lead to helping a people or culture break out as trends. Your offense might be a lock created from your own personal problems. You might just be putting a lock on others just like yourself. Ramble ramble rambe, yadda yadda yadda. too long, but that I think the point is accross. It's my opinion, anyone can have their own.

[@babymae2222]

I get it. This was a different perspective that was good

[@kilgoretrout413]

So glad this isn’t an issue in my country 😅 Anyone is welcome to appropriate my cultures indifference to this nonsense 👍🏽

[@coconut8800]

Y

[@marcuscisneros8528]

Where are you from?

[@kilgoretrout413]

@@marcuscisneros8528 Milan m8

[@scottbishop6471]

The amount of people in this video complaining about cultural appropriation while wearing western clothing amazes me.

[@kaydence9799]

Western clothing doesn’t have a cultural significance goofy🤣

[@helloagain6243]

@@kaydence9799 says who?

[@tamnicco]

Different cultures are not based on races, more like countries and their own traditions. An american white has totally different cultural references than a spanish, swedish, german or hungarian. There are common thing we learnt from each other, but we all have our traditions and cultures. As I said, it's not a racial thing, so why they make it into a race war again?

[@kaedunbrown-weaver8169]

I thought this video was giving me life in the beginning, but them they literally dragged anyone who did something out of the ordinary and then I lost respect for the video...

[@Jojo-sx5ec]

Why is a white girl having such admiration for another culture that she incorperates it into her own style ,why is that disrespectful and "cultural appropriation". But a Muslim girl wearing jeans and a crop top and not covering her hair is fine? I don't think jeans and crop tops are part of Muslim culture...in fact they are from western culture. So isn't a Muslim girl wearing them disrespectful and cultural appropriation?? Personally I think cultural appropriation is a load of bollox. Everyone should wear what they want and the ppl who get offended need to realise there are far bigger things to get offended over/passionate about. However, regardless of what society decides it has to be the same across the board. Either everyone sticks to stuff only specific to their culture and doing otherwise is cultural appropriation OR we all stop getting our knickers in a twist and appreciate the beauty in other cultures. But it can't be one rule for white people and another for the rest of the world. It's not fair, and it's incredibly ignorant.

[@yeniheriyani6640]

Theres no muslim culture wtf islam is all over the world its a religion not a race lol

[@Draftspike]

Yeni Heriyani well there kind of is, in a sense. Like the religious clothing

[@yeniheriyani6640]

@@Draftspike wdym religious clothing? Those white robes?

[@alanilynn2304]

Bruh you can't compare wearing a hijab (a sacred religious and cultural thing) to wearing western clothing. Of course it's not appropriation to wear western clothing. Is there culture, religion, or actual meaning behind it?? No

[@tasneemc3208]

hijab is NOT cultrual its a RELIGIOUS peice of clothing to show modesty , crop tops are not from any culture its a fcking peice of clothing

[@ripscuds4467]

I'm pretty sure the whole black culture in America came from several different foreign cultures. Soul food has mix of French and Caribbean, and most of the rest of culture developed on plantations as slaves, so depending on the nationality of plantation owner, that's where it came from.

[@KALLER76]

How is it possible, that there is no european people in this video? We have cultures too. I'm german. Our culture includes Christmas trees (yes, we invented these things). Is it ok, to have one without beeing german? Is it ok, wear a necktie, if you aren't from croatia? Is it ok, to play soccer, if you aren't from england? Is it ok, to sing silent night, if you aren't a german? Is it ok, to bake croissant, without beeing a french or austrian? What's about furnitures from IKEA?

[@eccentricPlays]

Just like with anything else if you act with respect and good intentions I really don’t think there’s a problem

[@benjaminlin6214]

I just see a bunch of crybabies telling the world why others should care how they are offended by nothing.

[@OGPimpin]

Bout sums it up. Bunch of cornballs who didnt grow up in the 80s or 90s

[@mister_grizzlee5105]

I remember when a couple of years ago there were some news here in Romania about foreign designers (Tory Burch and Dior ) using traditional Romanian wardrobes and patterns for some of their collections. But the fun part is that they kinda just copy-pasted it on everything. We were both happy and kinda annoyed at them. Happy that someone finally used our patterns on their clothes, and they were seen by lots of people, annoyed that they didn't bother to at least say or present them as being Romanian =))) (and if i recall correctly at first they said that it was original design or smth like that). We didn't cared that much about it ,since well was free publicity, and we were happy that they choose our traditional clothes for their collections

[@taufuuhkh]

Wtf is this? I am a Chinese and I feel very proud and happy when I see others outside of my race wearing Sam Fu or Cheong Sam. It's even cooler when they make some changes to the style of our traditional wear to fit their culture. Like WTF, why is everyone so sensitive about everything. Grow up, please

[@annabellelee4535]

Hmmm, that woman died her hair pink and claimed it's her "culture". Pink hair isn't black culture, white culture, Asian culture. It is personal expression and it saddens me that so many people are ignorant.

[@kg4st]

Segregation is the new inclusion.

[@danielb6766]

These people are gatekeepers withholding cultural evolution, creating a more segregated world 🌍

[@tredaoge9336]

TL;DR version: Cultural exchange isn't so polar that folk can just go around judging people so blindly. The video focuses on the fashion industry, and in that light, everything mentioned is valid. These comments however go beyond that to a certain extent. Like, if I were stationed in Japan and ended up learning Japanese and eating Japanese food, that would me assimilating (not appropriating), as my life would be less convenient if I didn't speak Japanese there. On that same note, me eating Japanese food at some restuarant in Canada would be cultural drift (not appropriation but not assimilation either) - drift being long term historical interaction between cultures resulting in cultural elements just being left there. Another example, there'd be a huge difference between me wearing my hair in a style that's native to the Black American community having been around the culture or having a personal connection with people of that culture (appreciation) vs me wearing it because I saw it in a movie and want to look "edgy", "different", or I'm being tongue-in-cheek "gangster/hoodrat," knowing that at any time, I can take the hairstyle down - at that point, it's understandable why people from those communities might be uneasy. With the way media has become so widespread, though, I'd like to believe that what a lot of finger pointers and call-outers are deeming as "appropriation" is actually just modernised cultural drift. People are coming across culture via media, which is great considering that it allows folk to realise just how connected we are as human beings, but sucks when folk misunderstand, misinterpret, or adorn the elements to reinforce stereotypes they come across. I saw a lot of comments on this video of people saying they should be able to wear whatever they want. And that's true. No one can tell you how to dress, but suggesting (read as "passive-aggressively demanding") that people of a community "share with you" something that holds a significance that they might not have the time, patience, interest, or vocabulary to articulate ought to be handled with a bit more grace.

[@HelenEk7]

I have never met a person who is upset with black people straightening their hair..

[@dmb8690]

Find something, anything else to cry about...

[@imjustnia1692]

The Ghost find something else to troll.

[@sheba1307]

I found your face

[@imjustnia1692]

She Ba I know I’m that beautiful

[@apocalypsepow]

@@imjustnia1692 ill appropriate whatever i want and there is nothing you can do to stop me

[@imjustnia1692]

apocalypsepow okay don’t cry when you get your ass beat 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@d.6823]

cultural appropriation brands minority cultures as exotic, sacrosanct, pure and primal - which results in utmost otherization.

[@Potatocrime24-7]

Cultural appropriation is a passive way of being offensive to a persons culture. By adopting a style look or even cuisine without knowing anything about the meaning or use behind what you are adopting and using it in an inappropriate way to stereotype or discriminate against that culture. Cultural appriciation is respecting and taking an interest in a culture wearing a certain clothing to an apropriate event or enjoying native cuisines and even making an attemp at preparing cultural food yourself, and overall understanding the culture while taking part in it. A white girl with dreads isn't cultural appropriation nor is it appriciation because african culture goes deeper than a simple hairstyle. Cultural appropriation; a person wearing a native american head dress, chief uniform, and face paint running around screaming and making a fool of himself. Using elements of native american culture to stereotype an entire group of people. Cultural appriciation: wearing a kimono to a special japanese event, trying the local foods and educating yourself more on japanese culture. Sharing an interest in a culture and enjoying it is one thing but using it to harm and stereotype is another.

[@courageagbeyebiawo4104]

I see a white woman wearing braids and I go like that's cute. Well that's just me, I just don't see anything wrong with it.🤷🏾‍♂️

[@kathleenkayelozada6073]

Sometimes this is just too much. :( Cultures have been mixing way before. Like for example, Philippines has assimilated cultures from China, India, Spain etc.

[@CaptainAmercia]

That’s how cultures are created and how cultures become something new many cultures are linked to each other somewhere find their timeline they separate and become something new a different people with a culture. This is why I don’t believe in this we are using elements from different cultures all the time that’s how these peoples American culture was found.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

This is about hating white people. Filipinos are safe.

[@unnamed7158]

America is still a very segregated country and tbf a lot of groups don't like each other so this is a big issue for them

[@tzyagamalyezer5983]

snowflake society bro

[@benitomussolini8544]

Based

[@eelcoremmers9628]

The black woman talking about white people copying Afrikanen hairstyles while she is wearing a wig of caucasian hair, right!

[@jayy2949]

I don't understand how ppl don't get wearing another cultures sacred items especially isn't problematic. There's a huge history of minorities not legally being able to wear their own sacred items and any of their cultural clothing for my ppl, Native ppl, and Chinese ppl as well, along with African tribal ppl enslaved here and on and on through their generations of Americans. When we can barely wear our things finally, speaking as an indigenous person, it's hard and rage enducing to see ppl wear our regalia as costume though it's fake it doesn't matter. It's not appreciation when the original ppl who to this day hold their regalia sacred don't appreciate the use. It's using things improperly, for selfish desires " oh I want to so I should be able to too" nonsense. Especially when celebs and companies use our imagery (fake regalia) to profit off it

[@unnamed7158]

True

[@madisondequilla6599]

im just confused at this point

[@mp-rz2ju]

me not watching the video but reading the arguments in the comments 🍿

[@v1deo.hunter.d317]

People who complain about "cultural appropriation" are being segregationist, stop trying to claim things are reserved to a certain group. Humans mix cultures, this is a good thing, being segregationist is a bad thing

[@AWMusicChannel]

As long as it is not plagiarism, the only difference between appropriation and appreciation is that only dump and ignorant people believe in "cultural appropriation". If I ask one to identify and give credit to everything that happened in, helped to form, and inspired one's work, one will fail 100% to do that, except that she/he was a cultural historian. Seek help please.

[@thatadam1418]

my culture is not your holiday, dont celebrate Halloween if your not irish!

[@ok-je1jf]

Halloween comes from the Celtics, it was called Samaín

[@ruzzsverion2728]

@@ok-je1jf Eh yes? The irish are Celts.

[@ok-je1jf]

@@ruzzsverion2728 not all Celtics are

[@itzhen7032]

Fun fact, kimoni is actually originaly from chineese design, does that meen that the japanese one is a cultural appropriation?

[@linefire9870]

Maybe its just me, but if someone missuses my culture, I'd just correct them. I'm Chinese, I was flabbergasted when a white girl wore a really nice qipao, tailor made from China to her prom, but the asian americans were not supportive of it. Like, there is no context clash for wearing a qipao AT ALL. ANYONE can wear it, for any occassion, at any time. I'm not from the US so please educate me.

[@andreaanonymous5474]

To the woman with the pink hair in this video. It can be usetting to see something you have always done suddenly made popular by a celebrity or a designer, especially when you or your culture were overlooked for it. But that's your ego running the show. It's a part of life. We all do it. Every day. When we grow up we have to realize that it's our wounded ego/pride that causes this problem. It's not something that we should really get upset about. EVERY single human being EVERY single day is taking something or using something from another culture. The tennis shoes you wear, the car you drive, your hair color, the spaghetti, pizza and tacos you had last week for dinner etc. The phone you are using, the electricity to give it power... the list can go on and on. Anyone speaking about culture appropriation needs to realize that. I am a natural blonde, it's part of my culture and where I came from, am I going to throw a fit because fifty percent of women dye their hair blonde? No. I'm not. That would be petty and childish. Did my ego when I was younger wish people wouldn't dye their hair blonde. To be honest, yes. Who's wrong here, me or them? I was. Emulation is a compliment. People wear my hair color because they like it. You have to mature and rise above your ego perhaps to understand this.

[@selenophile410]

Appreciation - trying punjabi food , trying vodka, visiting churches, trying on kurtas , salwar kameez, trousers, Approprition- wearing a nun headrest, sikh turban without being either

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

I have yet to see one drop of outrage at the glut of Sexy Nun Halloween costumes that have been marketed for as long as I've been alive.

[@linchan7271]

Appreciation: trying Punjabi food, trying vodka, visiting churches, trying on kurtas, salwar kameez, trousers Appropriation : doing all of this at once

[@sophiaalessandra5826]

@@linchan7271 how do you do it all at once anyway?

[@multifandomtrashygrassyehe2715]

Lesson learnt I’ll just stay away from cultural clothes because I legit have no idea how to wear cultural clothes without getting people to hate me 🙃

[@ramenlover334]

“ I’m a victim!!! “ Shut up and dress how you like and ear whatever you like.

[@erictaylor5462]

While working at a resort I met an Irish family, I said, "Well, if you're from Ireland I have to ask: How's the craic?" I made no attempt to use a fake accent, and from their reaction I think they saw it as I intended, a sign of respect. I don't normally ask people about the craic because that is not a thing here. But by knowing this obscure cultural greeting, I showed that I know something about that culture. I encountered a Hmong woman once who told me she was Hmong and said, "Not like you've ever heard of my people." in a rather rude fashion. You should have seen her face when I said, "You mean the Mountain People in Vietnam who allied them selves with the US and then got totally screwed by the American Government when they left Vietnam." To say she was shocked would be an understatement. I admit I didn't know much about them but I knew something, and that impressed her. She was upset about some misunderstanding and as I worked in security it was my job to sort it out. She saw me, a white man, and just assumed I would be biased against her. Actually, she wasn't in the wrong, and I was able to settle things fairly, in a way that satisfied both sides.

[@spageyro4802]

As a French man I get offended that people throughout the world use parachutes, stethoscopes, take photos, use aspirin, antibiotics, blood transfusions, modern dentistry, that they pasteurise items, put food in cans, drink champagne, that they go to cinemas, that they eat baguette, that they use blenders, calculators, metric system, that they drive in cars, diesel vehicles or helicopters, that they wear denim, bras, bikinis, raincoats, polo shirts, that they use sewing machines, ball pens, pencil sharpeners, staplers, hair dryers, that they read braille, play bagpipes, tarot, roulette, oboe and piano.....not Oh and I rock that keffieh that my Morrocan brother in law offered me for my birthday because I love it 🖕

[@maxlurya4227]

I'm offended that you think all those things came from France

[@spageyro4802]

@@maxlurya4227 Well I'm offended that you're offended. Not your country, not your antibiotics !

[@maxlurya4227]

@@spageyro4802 lol

[@poppi510]

You know Rudolf Diesel was actually German, he was born in Paris, but Rudolf doesn’t sound very French does it? Like Straßburg but that’s a different story.

[@nzappazapp8360]

Culture has nothing to do with clothing or any superficial appearance. What someone wears or how the do their hair is their own business and no one should be offended. My culture is about my beliefs and my ideas they can not be stolen,

[@KimberlyLetsGo]

Right. And traditions too. No one owns these things. No one should be an elitist and believe no one else can express these things except for themselves. Denim was invented by a Jewish worker who wanted to make a cloth that could withstand the treatment it got from doing physical work. So, what would happen if the Jewish people said that wearing denim was appropriation? EVERYONE would have to stop using/wearing denim if that was how appropriation works by the beliefs of some of the people commenting here.

[@pabloalvez915]

Part of the conflict is tied to a lack of distinction between cultural exchange and cultural appropriation. If one wants a society with a variety of intermingling cultures, it's inevitable that people are going to adopt various cultural features.

[@BlueberryDragon13]

I think we could benefit from cultural exchange if we gave people from other cultures a chance to participate in creating mass culture. Like, instead of selling a Chinese inspired dress with a cheap dragon print, hire a Chinese fashion designer to add the aesthetics of traditional Chinese clothing to contemporary fashion.

[@sschw68]

I always thought cultural appropriation was when a person pretends to be something they are not it's more a person claiming to be Native American to get something from being an actual Native American like that college professor who presented herself as African descent when she was in fact white the wife of AB who introduced herself as being from Spain Elizabeth Warren claiming Native American heritage that is cultural appropriation wearing a hairstyle or clothing is cultural appreciation even if as a designer you make money off of it, unless you claim that it is your heritage, it is appreciation imo

[@waterbottlecompany]

**naomi campbell appropriating indonesian culture by wearing a sunting, a traditional wedding accessory, to turn heads at a HALLOWEEN PARTY** ehhem sorry what was that?

[@jeanniem76]

Why isn't anyone talking about gender appropriation? It's pretty damn offensive when a biological man claims he identifies and understands womanhood. When you've gone through at least one of the following- month after month of period cramps and bleeding and the hormonal changes from menstruation, the intensity of pregnancy and giving birth, or the horrors of menopause- only then can we talk about how you "feel like a woman".

[@user-pu9ym3bc9f]

This video is ridiculous. First, no one owns a culture. Second, if someone sported fashion from a different culture aren't they admiring/advertising that brand? Thirdly, you can't force someone to wear a certain style of clothing anyway, it's none your business. The list goes on and on.

[@donaw1067]

You sound ignorant. People own a culture. You probably were never discriminated and killed bc of what you believed in or what you look like and how your dressed.

[@user-pu9ym3bc9f]

Elizabeth W How did you come to the conclusion that I was probably never discriminated against? You have no idea who I am, where I come from, or what race I am, stranger. Who’s the ignorant one here?

[@ElZamo92]

Elizabeth W so, because I’m Mexican I own sombreros? Fuck that. Sombreros are one of the coolest souvenirs you could buy if you come visit.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

@@donaw1067 I'm sure you've never made a peep about "Sexy Nun" costumes, which are all the rage every Halloween.