Larry At The Movies EP 1 - 'Heat'

[@petermsull]

Hi, I'm the guy who made the gun sounds for this film. In this scene production sound *was* used (I lent Lee Orloff the "right" mic's for it) but we are augmented for extra punch. Remember, part of what we are "trained" (by watching so many films) to need the crack (sonic boom) which, of course, blanks can't provide. We worked like fiends on this scene!

[@Viewer-ld5rc]

Amazing. Great work!

[@petermsull]

@@Viewer-ld5rc Lee Orloff, the production mixer, deserves the lion's share of the credit.

[@Viewer-ld5rc]

@@petermsull You all did great!

[@freesteamer3462]

Pretty cool to be involved in the best fire fight gun scene in film history in my opinion

[@officialrhythmicthoughts]

You nailed it

[@matthewkluge5441]

One of the best sounding shootouts in movie history .

[@coyote5735]

Yes, indeed the echo of the building gave it something. My favourite shoot out scene.

[@BudgiePanic]

That's because they used the actual audio from the blanks when they filmed it, so you get the echos off the buildings.

[@redeye118]

Public Enemy also done the same with real blanks and I believe Die Hard 1 as Bruce Willis is partially deaf from the scene where he mag dumps on the bad guy under the table.

[@effes514]

Finally a loud firefight

[@kentallard8852]

They used the real location recorded sound of the blanks because of the way it sounded echoing against the buildings rather than do sound effects.

[@octopuliander6291]

Mick Gould, SAS, was a technical advisor on this. He's a personal friend and I was told during their training Val Kilmmer was the beast. Took to training very well and got everything pretty quickly. Love the guy...

[@josephfoster6313]

Regardless, very good firearms fight choreography and training. The first time I saw " Heat" I knew some major league pros were involved in training the actors.

[@octopuliander6291]

@x c Not sure if they worked together or what but Mick designed the armored car and street shootout downtown and also did the course with the actors up in the mountains...Mick also closely trained Tom Cruise for the Collateral...

[@sweaty7012]

They were both involved.

[@andersa3448]

Subject Matter Experts (SME): "The SAS will bring in experts in specialized fields who may or may not have served in the military....It’s more than likely that they will come from government agencies, teachers/professors or those that have written books about the particular subject of interest."

[@ozthegreater9320]

This needs to be a regular segment I love this

[@EdwinYee1]

How about the mini gun scene from T2? Lol jk but on a serious note a director like Mann is Spielberg of Saving Private Ryan and Munich were one of main themes in gun fights is Murphy's Law Love it if you would do these 2 movies Larry

[@JockoJonson17]

yesss

[@gladiator_games]

Agreed

[@itzalion]

Sadly not many movies that worth discussing.

[@greyc8420]

My favorite guy in the Industry doing my favorite Movie. Needless to say I've never clicked on a link so fast in my life.

[@christophera8030]

IMO, Pacino's firearm handling is perfect for his character. Competent, but not practiced regularly with a carbine. Cops don't sit on the range perfecting firearm technique.

[@ChuckBeefOG]

Only special tactics guys do. My friends brother is on a State wide response team and he goes to the range more than he patrols.

[@riffbaama]

I will delete my comment since you said it better. Thanks.

[@MagicSkeleton]

Pacino's character was a US Marine, if I remember rightly. They go through his CV at one point.

[@dylanhealy8126]

Shit not even Infantrymen get the range time we need. The tier 1 guys do, but being regular line Infantry in South Korea and Ft Drum, I attended more sexual harassment PowerPoints than went to the range, sad tbh

[@tembakaugunung6139]

I tought so ... Mann must be had a reasom to show the way Pacino Reloading his arms. Its bit odd for a sec, but when you connect overall things from the charavter, - it is what it is, pacino is that character so he do what he do ...

[@CharlesHoop]

Surprised he didn’t mention that Val Kilmer tapped his fresh mag against the car bumper before putting it in. Very easy to miss but shows he trained a lot with experienced guys.

[@AlexG1020]

which is actually not necessary at all. just like people who tap their cigarettes.

[@ElderonAnalas]

@@AlexG1020 so what is the tapping supposed to actually do? make sure the mag spring doesn't jam with a side hit? and it didn't look like an intentional smack, more just how he was removing it from where it was stored face down and he flipped it over to load

[@CM-dq4jq]

@@ElderonAnalas some do it to seat the rounds towards the rear of the magazine.

[@matthewshannon6946]

@@CM-dq4jq Yep- AR/M4 mags can let top round or two creep forward during dynamic movement and could foul up a reload if Murphy shows up...

[@AlexG1020]

@@ElderonAnalas It's supposedly to 'seat' the cartridges better to aid feeding and/or let dirt fall out of the way.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Great new series and what a great movie to pick!

[@buckeyebanshee]

YeastyGeorge somebody is salty!🧂🧂

[@justincase4382]

YeastyGeorge hahaha

[@Mr_Makina]

@YeastyGeorge someone's triggered, take your bullshit, homophobic, shit to fuck

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

I say review The Wild Geese, 1978, imdb.com imfdb.org .

[@DustyGamma]

Perfect movie to pick. Larry did amazing things with a CAR-15 after all. (Why am I saying this a year later? Who knows...)

[@darknagaadventures7884]

Hanna presents exactly as the character was designed. He made mistakes and wasn't as sharp because he's a cop, not a dedicated operator. The Heist crew was clearly training regularly and kept up their military discipline, whereas the Cops were using Cop tactics.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Lt Hanna was USMC combat veteran, SE Asia. Rifle fire is not a new thing. BTW, the "real" SIS would train constantly. Flinch or recoil would not be common.

[@darknagaadventures7884]

DL Lambert I counter your assertions with those are all perishable skills, he was a Coke user (see the commentary), and that most cops train yearly not regularly. SWAT trains regularly. So odds of SIS being that fresh is low. Particularly prior to the North Hollywood Bank incident (inspired by this film) which did change the training schedule. I don’t think Hanna had anywhere close to the time, or energy to train at that level in the early 90’s. Likely not today.

[@brucewayne-ej3cx]

💯

[@strappedwithkrylon]

Cop tactics is firing blindly into a bunch of civilians? I seriously doubt that any police officer is ever given the order to fire blindly onto traffic when there's a bunch of civilians in the line of fire... sounds more like something that the US military would do. Even less likely when this is nothing but an armed robbery and the robbers have literally zero chance of getting away since their escape route is by land and they're essentially blown the moment they rob the bank.

[@jimbob465]

@@strappedwithkrylon if you start watching police shootings you will quickly realize cops regularly piss lead at people regardless of who or what is behind their target or wether or not their target was a deadly threat in the first place.

[@slash0014]

Very interesting segment. Keep it up Larry!

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

It's one of the few movies with decent firearms use

[@kurvaonwheels]

I think the fact that Al Pacino's character isn't that proficient with gun manipulation actually makes sense. He is supposed to be a detective and not an SF guy, maybe they did it on purpose. And I love these videos so definitly keep doing it.

[@ratagris21]

Supposedly he was a decorated Marine according to the movie and had taken down many crews in his career around the country. He's suppose to know what he is doing.

[@palmettolpop4148]

I agree completely. Reloading with your dominant hand was standard at that time, for military and police. Only tier 1 operators in a few first world countries trained with the concept of reloading with your off hand. If Director/Producer staff felt strongly enough about authenticity to fund having 2 former SAS guys to come on board to train the actors, you can believe they taught the bad guys one thing and the good guys another. I firmly believe Larry is wrong about Al Pacino and his character's choice of rifle. In my experience, detectives in the US were and are generally allowed considerable leeway with their EDC and weapon selection, including long guns.

[@adrianthayer4591]

Good point. In 94 I had to show a rural deputy how to clear my AR-15.

[@andresu8167]

pacino also supposedly burned his hand with the M-16 while filming Scarface

[@ubcroel4022]

@@ratagris21 Marine Infantry don't train like Special Operations guys do, he was infantry then went to LAPD. The way he reloaded gun is fine, Police and Infantry don't train like Spec Ops.

[@g__wizz]

i think the lack of training for Pacino is part of the story. the bank robbers are pros, Pacino is the "normal guy".

[@austinryan9382]

Exactly

[@zambo978]

no pacino is a former marine in this one

[@austinryan9382]

@@zambo978 ....good point!

[@Leo___________]

He's still doing well. Just makes the FNC choice a bit odd.

[@zambo978]

@MENTAL although i served another army i think the marksman badge usually refers to 600meters shots not 20 to 50 or even 100

[@TheMucky88]

I can confirm, in Marine Corps boot camp at MCRD San Diego in around Late July/Early August 2006, they had us watch this scene and my Senior Drill Instructor said "if you can't reload as fast or faster than this actor you do not belong here and we will weed you out".

[@zrockstar]

Oh so we watch movies in boot camp now? Good to go. We'll pay later.

[@daviddistefano7520]

@Nick 718 Damn dude, that's soooo not true...

[@user6008]

@HIGHWAY TO HEAVEN Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine, but he couldn't shoot for shit.

[@user6008]

Except that DI's are nowhere to be found when qualifying occurs. Recruits are turned over to the guys who's job is to make sure everyone passes. Those who don't get a second chance to qualify, even in the Marines.

[@benwilliams6221]

I can back you up, I was in PI that summer and we were also shown that part of the movie.

[@MrBuddylove50]

"Law enforcement officers wont take shots that could hit civilians" LAPD: hold my beer

[@jctai100]

i spit my food out laughing at this

[@234assman]

LAPD: is that a challenge?

[@forrestgumball]

FBI Hostage Rescue Team: "Cant have a hostage situation if there is no hostage."

[@theshocker4626]

@@forrestgumball Hostage Roasting Team, best BBQs since 93.

[@Gman-109]

LOL! Like the time they were after that black former officer, shot up 2 old Chinese ladies delivering newpapers, then a truck that was similar to the suspects with no warning at all, and the occupant was a white guy. Unreal.

[@robteaster2446]

Now how cool is this? The sound guy who worked on creating the great scene jumps into the comments. Heck that alone makes my day by just getting read his comments.

[@archierose1432]

The Pacino eye over will have been a film choice. They want to see his eye. Especially with the left eye closed. It’s a camera awareness thing from Pacino as well

[@nateburns5933]

Thing is that's gonna pull you off target more and more as distance increases up to apoint

[@BossManSays]

@@nateburns5933 but this is where they Hollywood it up.

[@phillydelphia8760]

Did you not listen to the explanation he gave? Or the detail of weapon training for that film? Pacino ain't that ego centric

[@64kdawg]

HEAT is amazing. Classic legendary movie.

[@rodfarva6749]

I remember watching this when it came out on vhs in 96. I looked at my dad after this scene and said woah, that was intense. He replied, that's exactly how its sounds and looks.

[@JO-ly3hi]

LOL I saw it in the theater...sound was awesome!

[@KeanonGilliamSlang369]

Michael Mann has always made an effort to make his gun scenes realistic

[@pauliegualtieri4314]

Agreed, all the way back to "Thief"

[@tylerryancoleman]

@Erich Von Wachter Best firearms movie directer even in the more cerebral mid-80s movie Manhunter (first movie with Hannibal Lecture remade as Red Dragon) Mann takes a moment to introduce and explain Glaser safety slugs to add a little real world gun tech and to increase tension in a later scenes.

[@TheHylden]

Yup, and definitely with the sound. This was about the most realistic gunfire had ever sounded in movies.

[@jordanfrancisco27]

Yes!

[@leonardotavaresdardenne9955]

@Tobias Rieper Oh yeah what the fuck as that, was he asleep trough the whole shoot? I think the second unit filmed the whole film in 4 days, only explanation.

[@thejalderman]

Hey dude, I haven’t checked in on the channel in a while. You’re looking really healthy these days. Stoked to see it. Keep on truckin man. Thanks for the content

[@borismuller86]

John Alderman yeah he’s definitely dropped a lot of weight. He’s looking very fit.

[@JOHNDOE-ut1bw]

Looks like a different person. That's what dropping weight does to ya everyone!

Yup, yup. Good effort, good result!

[@hugovader6727]

i was thinking the same

[@Fluyarn]

My three years as an active soldier in the swedish army tought us that you want to use your palm to hit the bolt release instead of the thumb, because the muscle memory is easier to remember and use when in a high pressure situation with bad guys shooting at you and alot of adrenalin flowing through your body. To summerize, You are less likely to hit it with the thumb when you are stressed and filled with adrenalin, you have 900 other things to worry about. Great video, you have my subscription!!

[@kylesprengeler5965]

exactly i thought the same thing. im glad someone said it

[@Swiat34]

I was taught the same in the US Marine Corps but we didn’t use our palm, we use the heel of our palm. In a firefight in Al Anbar, Iraq in 2004, I made 5 mag changes evidenced by the empty mags...I don’t remember doing a single one of them.

[@Swiat34]

David Macdonald Not with an AR. That’s a good way to cause a stoppage by getting the charging handle caught, bound, or ridden back toward battery where in those instances it won’t seat the bolt.

[@Swiat34]

David Macdonald I didn’t say it doesn’t work “bud.” I said it’s a bad idea in combat for multiple reasons. Keep plinkin!

[@Fluyarn]

@@Swiat34 i guess my english isnt the best but ofcourse i meant the heel of the palm!

[@stevemc6010]

The standoff from Wind River would be great. I was surprised how it shows body armor.

[@TheJokerx420]

I like how that whole sequence goes down like how it would in real life, no build up and done within seconds

[@drakecard84]

It would be cool for Larry to review that seen too.

[@deagle44mag]

I 2nd that. A great unusual movie shootout scene for sure.

[@jakehansen3418]

Only flawd part of that scene was the people flying when hit by the 45 70 other then that that scene is one of the most realistic I've ever seen.

[@maxjones503]

@@jakehansen3418 There is some explanation for that in the fact that the bullets were custom made with heavily increased filling but I agree they were still exaggerated a bit.

[@maximumcarnage186]

I remember my first time watching HEAT. Had a good sound system, this scene almost blew out the speakers. We no longer have that TV and surround system. Great movie!!!

[@Patriiiiick]

I remember watching this in the classroom/auditorium during basic training in the British armed forces. Hardest place i've ever experienced trying to stay awake in some presentations because it was so warm in there(especially after you've done a 12m tab) that I was happy for some really loud footage of something interesting to watch.

[@breed4659]

The audio from this shootout was so dope. I remember the first time i watched Heat i had the stereo cranked up and it literally gave me chills

[@TheRealPDizzle]

That’s because the director chose to stick with the actual sounds of the gas expulsion and all that reverberation and echo off the city landscape. You’re not getting any post-production sound filtering or crappy studio filler here.

[@devlinallistair5147]

Saw it in the theater. Wow.

[@christianlight8511]

Heat is one of the greatest dramas ever made. The acting is superb, the screenplay is a great and well written story, and Mann is an amazing director/producer as well who does a great job of getting the audience to fell sympathy for the bad guys. The bank shootout and even the armored car robbery at the beginning of the film are action scene masterpieces. Watching them use basic military tactics in the bank robbery shootout is awesome. There's a scene (can't remember when) where you can see an Eagle, Globe, and Anchor tattoo on De Niro. So the movie implies that at least some of them had military training. Supposedly this movie inspired the guys that did the real North Hollywood bank robbery in LA. Every time I watch it I still wish that De Niro would stay on the highway toward the airport with his girl instead of taking the detour to kill Waingro. Damn you Jon Voight! However, seeing De Niro kill tha POS Waingro execution style is extremely satisfying. Of course, with most Hollywood movies there are parts that would seem to be unrealistic in real life. As former Security Forces in the AF I find the part where Pacino headshots Tom Sizemore while Sizemore is holding the little girl to be problematic. I don't think many officers would risk taking that shot and possibly shooting the little girl. However, it is very apparent that none of these guys would probably allow themselves to be taken alive. It's always interesting to think about how you would have acted given these type of scenarios.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

A Austin Texas PD sgt 👮🏽‍♂️ shot a rifle armed suspect with 1 .40S&W JHP, factory stock M&P. The range was measured at 104yd! 😲 that was a ✅ pistol shot.

[@chaddelong998]

well, Sizemore gave him the atypical silhouette cutout pose at close range approx 15 yards. hostage in one arm, gun down, full upper torso. if any of these parts were different, i could see refusing the shot. center hostage, gun up, half frame. = no shot.

[@Lifechanging99999]

DL Lambert the guy is/was in the air force, they don’t shoot well. Give him a break.

[@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401]

We want Heat remake

[@CAIDENROX]

Pachino's character was supposed to be a coke addict (it was cut from the movie) which would've explained his more wreckless decisions.

[@Shadoefax760]

1:57 I fucking love that part of the film where Kilmer just throws down without a millisecond of hesitation

[@christianlight8511]

His smirk right before he raises his rifle is epic.

[@96t5wagon]

Say when...😎

[@thawk1435]

I'm your huckleberry.

[@jon8336]

100%

[@luisvaldes1568]

Yes I will never forget that, it has stayed with me since the first time I saw it back in 94.

[@DrewishAF]

I think the first time I saw this movie was right around the time it came out on VHS with my grandma who was a HUGE fan of Di Nero and Pacino. I remember this being a big part of loving firearms and tactics when I was a kid. I remember not having a clue about what the FNC was but loving the way it looked. My grandmother was a trip because she was fascinated with guns and gunfights (at least in movies) and would buy me all sorts of GI Joe vehicles and the big packs of guns for them. This just brings back some good memories.

[@yagopone7404]

Last vid I watched was your vid on working out. You look really good, Larry! Keep up the good work!

[@adam45011]

Yagop One Hell yeah he is!

[@slappymcgillicuddy7532]

"You can tell he is shooting blanks" -my ex wife

[@s.g.3042]

cheer up buddy, no child support for ya

[@jakeroo71]

over watch?..............pepper potting....

[@paladro]

oh the irony of a getaway driver that sells me auto insurance... great movie, excellent breakdown.

[@christianlight8511]

haha I never put that together before, good catch. I always remember him as the president in the 1st season of 24.

[@kore6078]

Snake doctor from the unit

[@omardaniel1]

Ya ll must be young. Thats Cerrano. Up your butt jabu 🤣

[@luisvaldes1568]

yes!

[@angeldesigns1385]

Dennis haysbert Is one of the most best underrated actors (much like William Fitchner Who ironically Played Roger Van Zant in this movie as well) and always struck me as a real Lincoln town car guy! In fact, he is the guy that sold me on buying my first one back in the day which was actually a 96 very identical to the one in this movie.🚀✨🚀✨🚀

[@MrShtbrick]

One of the most amazing things about that scene, listen to it with a good set of speakers or earphones.

[@pauliegualtieri4314]

When this was in theaters, I went to see it a second time only to experience the real theater surround sound of that shootout, was excellent.

[@devlinallistair5147]

One of the greatest action sequences I've ever seen.

[@SalvoSix]

Best thing about this scene was how loud the audio is. You never see this in movies

[@timmooney7528]

The theater I saw John Wick 3 in cranked the audio. After the film, my ears rang like I spent 2 hours on the range without hearing protection.

[@luisvaldes1568]

I had forgotten that. I remember my ears ringing when I saw this in the theater back in 94. And the scene kept going and going and going.

[@chasecross6063]

I'd love to see you do the (criminally underrared and under-seen) Proof of Life!

[@d3ltaohniner261]

That was a really good movie, very underrated!

[@neilegg1]

Excellent movie!!

[@germaxicus6670]

Great shootout scene towards the end. They set up an overwatch. Observe and call out targets. Well done indeed!

[@WALancer]

best part about that movie was the SAW gunner was actually the military advisor they hired. They gave up on the actor he was trying to teach and used him instead.

[@chasecross6063]

@@WALancer SAW gunner was legit! "Who am I?" "You're an asshole!" Classic.

[@bcary12]

He is right, USMC OCS shows this scene to candidates when I went through. I think this was the only screentime I had the entire school haha

[@Robert.Deeeee]

Trained by former SAS? Did Di Nero ask "What colour is the boat house at Hereford? " lol

[@808INFantry11X]

I loved that movie too.

[@frankmunn6168]

Lol...there is no boat house.

[@daa3417]

How the fuck would they know?

[@tierone4761]

Robbie Desiato One of the SAS Guys was Andy McNab I believe. Good Day to You!

[@theshocker4626]

@@tierone4761 Andy McNab played by Sean Bean in Bravo 2-0.

[@eleks12]

Hope you do the John Wick movies Larry :)

[@jorgejefferson8251]

Vickers would lose his mind looking at those dumb as* Wick movies

[@surfingtothestars]

Lone Survivor would be better

[@EvolvinEvo]

kirk mullings How can you not like John Wick?!?... Larry already said he’d like to break down some parts in the first John Wick in one of his replies in his Collateral/Tom Cruise briefcase scene video

[@JeremyShibby]

@Phillip Mullis I remember reading that all the Delta guys said Shughart was the smartest Delta guy there for using his M-14 because a lot of the somalis were on drugs and the 5.56 wasn't taking them down as fast as the 7.62 from the M-14.

[@Divine_R]

@@EvolvinEvo Yes I remember Larry saying he wants to do John Wick. People like Kirk take things way too seriously when it comes to guns in film.

[@AnonyMous-jf4lc]

“Fully automatic fire doesn’t have a lot of merit in the real world”... Except when used as a means of fire superiority to effect egress, as depicted in this scene. You are not trying to put a few well placed shots on target, you are trying to keep them behind cover as you escape. Fully automatic fire is a great way to accomplish that task. That is why we have SAWs and 240Bs.

[@solidsnake2910]

He said casually to Larry Vickers.

[@AnonyMous-jf4lc]

@@solidsnake2910 he's not the only guy that has ever been in group.

[@G58]

I agree. Having once pressed an Uzi into service to lay dow suppressive fire when the GPMG jammed, well placed revs of full auto not only keep heads down, they can account for effective hits.

[@AnonyMous-jf4lc]

@@G58 It's why we mounted 249s with chicken plates on the quads we had scouting. They could toss it in reverse and lay down z pattern fire to get out of the kill zone. The MATVs with RWS would push up and take care of the problem. That scenario played out many times. A Ma Deuce and Mk19 did wonders. And both of those used auto bursts.

[@sbreheny]

Yes but he made that comment in response to Kilmer's character initiating fire upon cops who were not yet ready to fire back. In that case, a well-placed shot or shots would have been more effective. Later on, when they are doing the bounding overwatch, yes, full auto makes sense.

[@bengalsfan312]

When you tell your grandkids this was before John Wick.

[@Pariahmary]

"See that blonde guy with the ponytail? He's batman"

[@bullc4]

Jhon wick is so lame 🤦

[@HamsterK37]

@@bullc4 how so?

[@trenzu2]

Raz Colt are you high?

[@brianmejia447]

@@bullc4 no u

[@MiketheMadness]

11:58 Pacino didn’t flinch. They edited two shots together because apparently he got a stoppage but they wanted to use the footage

[@Demothean]

I love these videos with former special forces critiquing shootout scenes and giving a breakdown of what’s going on. Much love and respect ✊🏻

[@r.e.dkuato5812]

They showed us this scene before we hit the range to practice bounding overwatch.

[@mungo75]

Way back when in the UK, the term our instructors used was 'pepper potting' . It was standard British armed forces doctrine at the time.

[@palmettolpop4148]

@@mungo75 What specifically did "pepper potting" refer to? Was it the bounding, the tactical reload, combination, or something else? And do you have any idea how that became the term for it? Also, when did you last hear the term? Just trying to get a frame of reference for it. Thanks! Greetings from the States! (South Carolina)

[@mungo75]

The kind of leapfrogging forward as one party covers another, then one takes cover as the next one advances and so on. We were originally taught it as part of a section assault on a enemy position. Usually two four man fire teams, if I remember correctly. Advance on a suspected enemy position in a extended line slowly and carefully, upon contact (effective enemy fire) take cover then pepper pot forward up to a section assault on the enemy position. No idea on the origins, sorry mate. It was probably around 25 years ago give or take, sorry I can’t be more specific! Our training team at the time were all Royal Marines. As far I can remember it was in the manual as standard training for all British infantry at the time.

[@FirstNameLastName-ng1sv]

The Town, last shoot out at the stadium. Would be a good one to review.

[@Liface]

"not necessarily something you're gonna wanna do in the real world" Perfect, I'll keep that in mind next time me and the boys rob a bank!

[@Mr45Bullitt]

Met Mr. Vickers in a local store by chance. Really nice man in person! It was awesome.

[@FunninGunnin1]

The sound captured in this scene is also what makes it one of the best. No dubbing. What you hear it how it went down.

[@ThejollyFrenchman]

One bit of attention to detail I love in this scene is the way De Niro fires off to the sides during the car park sequence. At first I thought he was just panicking, or maybe the editors had messed up and made the scene too chaotic, but I realised that De Niro's character is spraying bullets around randomly to flush out civilians. If he was just firing at Pacino, the civilians would have just kept their heads down, but because of the bullets flying near them, they lose their cool and run in front of Pacino's rifle. Most movies would just explain through dialogue that the character is a skilled tactician, but Heat shows us through the character's actions.

[@attist178]

This is the series I've been waiting for my entire life.

[@jamesjanson6129]

If that had been a real shootout, Pacinos character would have been deskbound until retirement sorting out the paperwork on this incident. Accounting for shots fired by him with full auto around civilians and his team,lawsuits, inquiries,and general paperwork tonnage.The rather unsexy side of policework post a shots fired incident,that is never shown in the movies.

[@guillermo7298]

Pacino only shot semi tho

[@barret-xiii]

@MENTAL "Police work is not all glamour and guns. There's an awful lot of filing to do." -Inspector Thompson (Adventures of Tin Tin, which also starred Simon Pegg)

[@blitzkrieg459]

Paperwork was my favorite part, easy money.

[@LibertyPrime1982]

@@blitzkrieg459 you're crazy. That's the worst part 😂

[@Year_of_the_Dell]

@@barret-xiii Simon pegg is a great actor

[@heyimgoingtoplaysomegames]

Love how detailed you are on how much time the actors spent training. Whole new perspective on this. Thank you!

[@tanit]

the flinching and shitty handling of pacino's AR actually makes the movie more realistic IMO. The character wouldn't be extremely experienced with ARs and being in firefights.

[@saborwolf]

I think the flinch actually comes from a cut, using two different takes of him firing the weapon

[@PartTimeRonin]

The character is ex-marine so I'm not sure about that.

[@doughroasterbushcraftandsu3947]

Pacino is using an FN

[@cal5000]

A veteran robbery homicide cop wouldn't be experienced with guns? Really?

[@tanit]

​@@cal5000 No. Why would he? How often do cops get into firefights with rifles or train rifles? Basically never. Only group I would really anticipate skill with these sort of weapons are SWAT, SMART, SRT etc. Especially back when this movie was made it was essentially unheard of for cops to carry rifles in their cars or to qual with them normally.

[@donnibrasko1]

Best FATHERS DAY present yet! TOP THAT FAMILY!!!!

[@Divine_R]

LOLL you are being way too unfair on your family :D

[@TrinidadJamesWoods]

Honestly, I think the most impactful aspect of the shootout is the sound of the long guns reverberating off of the buildings. It puts the audience right in the action.

[@michaelb6729]

Do one of Commando when John Matrix invades Belvedere island ! 😄

[@gp-vl3gk]

@@kylelaughinghouse1893 When "Matrix" drops "Sully" off the cliff, on the way down "Sully" is screaming "Ooh la la". Once who hear it ypu can't un-hear it. lol ;)

[@thewedge8823]

Belvedere Island? I thought it the country of Val Verde ?

[@moto1p1]

@@gp-vl3gk He promised he'd kill Sully last... That lyin' sonofabitch!

[@michaelb6729]

@@kylelaughinghouse1893 ..... let off some steam, Bennett !!!! 👊

[@gp-vl3gk]

@@moto1p1 LMAO :)

[@thewedge8823]

Larry should be a gun consultant for hollywood movies

[@timmooney7528]

A gun consultant is only as good as the director who is willing to listen to him. Most like to suspend reality and choose to create the perception of reality versus the boring details of the real thing.

[@timmooney7528]

@Jacob K Another good walkthrough on this scene is by Dom Raso in NRA's Media Lab series. Back to cinematic accuracy it's doesn't seem like the big things affect the suspension of reality. It's the small details. That's where an advisor such as Dale Dye or Larry would be great so they can at least equip the actor's properly so someone who really knows their stuff can watch a movie without getting hung up on the little stuff that doesn't look convincing.

[@charliemac12]

The Wedge consultancy was done by former SAS sgt A.MCNabb

[@bravskii10]

He should be the firearm technical advisor for all realistic gun movies

[@karanvirkooner1993]

I’d hire all firearm specialists as consultants even conceptually as a form of common courtesy

[@flexgado249]

This is my favorite movie of all time and this scene is the best

[@skunkwrxs]

Awesome! Next up... Den of thieves? Appreciate you LAV!

[@johngalt234]

Really? They had a red dot on a pistol but irons on a rifle. That should tell anyone what they need to know about that movie.

[@muddyhotdog4103]

@@johngalt234 There's also a scene where Gerald Butler is shooting his SCAR in the last shootout, but he has no magazine in it haha.. I mean com'n

[@johngalt234]

@@muddyhotdog4103 With the rear sight down and everything. www.imfdb.org/images/5/5b/DenOfThieves_SCARL_NoMag.jpg

[@gh-gv8mx]

The collateral video was awesome! Keep them coming!👍

[@BonesTheCat]

The other thing that makes this scene legendary in movie history was the sound of the shootout. Nothing had been heard like that before and you really need solid surround sound to hear it.

[@abnr1983]

Larry, I hope you also review the scenes from Den of Thieves.

[@j.b.708]

huge factor on the shot on sizemore is paccino has been running for several blocks.

[@Original-Juice]

can't believe this movie is 25 years old now. still one of the best films ever made.

[@danmac247]

Great video. Surprised you didn't mention the Sound Design. Commonly discussed as being very "accurate" as far as loudness and realism. Thoughts on that?

[@CoconutSteve22]

The audio was recorded during the filming while they were shooting blanks. so it sounds like urban gunfire because it is urban gunfire

[@C-M-E]

I still consider this movie as the only big shootout movie that actually got the sound right. Loud, unsuppressed and reverberating off the buildings. Why another movie in this genre (or any for that matter) has never been able to match this level of sound authenticity astounds me.

[@Noobleif]

The gun sounds in the movie Black Hat is even more impressive than this movie, I would say

[@sanchezzz1]

@@C-M-E Micheal Mann my friend.

[@randyvuchsas436]

They recorded live audio for this scene, lots of reverb off of those big ass structures

[@davidnelson7505]

Please do Sicario, Lone Survivior, Zero Dark Thirty. Thank you for the awesome content!

[@AnontheGOAT]

David Nelson you forgot 13 hours!! 😤

[@koopspook]

anon I love how 13 hours just quickly passes through the scene where some dude's body is straight up dismantled by machine gun fire.. just dropped in pieces no big deal I guess LOL crazy!

[@fathead8933]

Den of Thieves also.

[@fathead8933]

Tobias Rieper the weapons handling was on par though. The one handed reload, the peel, even the entrance into the bank was outstanding.

[@borismuller86]

David Nelson Black Hawk Down too!

[@rubenjimenez5213]

By far the best shoot out sene, my alltime favorite action movie💪💪👍👍

[@sik59rt]

Every home theater I designed got this scene played on it immediately after I was done.

[@chadl.981]

Hands down best firearm audio to ever exist in a Hollywood film. Even the shape charge scene placed on the armored truck was phenomenal.

[@sik59rt]

@@chadl.981 Saving Private Ryan's opening scene was pretty great too since they had emphasis on the incoming fire. i played that scene for my customers after the wife left the room since they never liked the gore

[@taxin2476]

Do you guys know Mr. Michael MF Mann shot that scene on Mothers day on a Sunday Afternoon. Apparently people all over the city were freaking out, especially those down a few blocks who might not have known they were shooting the Greatest Movie in my Opinion. Michael Mann is my favorite Writer, Producer, Director. I own all but maybe 3 of his movies. Ali, Hancock and The old Miami Vice type movie he made way back in the day, And i don't own Lucky. Everything else i own. Blackhat got no real credit or respect, i think because it went over most people's heads. Great shooting scenes, Prison style stabbing on the streets, i could go on and on. Thank you Vickers

[@PLGooner]

Do you own mann too?

[@brettbarker8444]

Taxin 24/7 yes Mann is the man. He demands his actors be comfortable with firearms and do it right (cops act like cops, veterans like veterans, taxi drivers like taxi drivers). Heat is the greatest and most realistic movie I’ve seen. Den of Thieves was almost a scene for scene rip-off of Heat but if you can accept that, it is also a good shootout movie.

[@TrinidadJamesWoods]

Yeah, Mann is an exceptional director. I also was underwhelmed by Blackhat on first viewing, but watched it again and really appreciated it. You can always count on a Mann movie having great shootouts. He also directed the Depp movie Public Enemies about John Dillinger, which was very underrated.

[@jonhaskins617]

I was there. Lots of discussions between shots. It was Saturday morning. Got paid.

[@taxin2476]

Will Johnson : Deep Breath, Listen William I'm going to be civil because like you said you are a Mann Fan but you are out of line. Heat is Mann's masterpiece but he has been at his best since Miami Vice and Thief and from then on he has owned the crown. Last Mohicans, The Insider, Collateral, Ali, Miami Vice Movie, Public Enemies, The Kingdom and Blackhat, Oh and drug wars which is the original Narcos Mexico. Take Thief he meet with highline criminals and hard-core cops and used there intel, Then he cast them but he didn't stop there he had the real life criminals play the cops and the cops play criminals. That right there puts him at the top. Watch Blackhat again

[@SPFAlpha]

gotta love how fond people are of this great film. It was the first R rated film I ever saw and it was fantastic. Thanks dad, thanks

[@jamielucky6600]

I love this!!! One of the best videos I've seen in ages! I think lone survivor would be a great one for larry to analyse!

[@BERETTA9mmUSA]

One of my Top Picks for movie Recommendations. Thanks for the Review and you thoughts Larry. Our Best to you. B9USA Sr.

[@LeoWhalen1933]

Thanks for doing this video and thank you to everyone involved in the movie HEAT. Just an absolute masterpiece.

[@kragaliciuos9476]

Ill never forget the first time i saw this scene. So badass.

[@d0sitmatr]

this is absolutely one of my all time favorite firearm scenes in any movie Ive watched. thank you for breaking it down and adding incite to its tactical awareness. my favorite explosion scene would be swordfish, if you havent seen it, they do a slow motion 360 perimeter around a (Claymore ?) explosion and it is just fantastic (not sure how realistic, but still fantastic cinematography)

[@marktehresman]

Had a Company Commander back in the day that had us watch this back in the day. For the time it was a good way to get the boys spun up. Thanks.

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

British SAS 'Andy McNab' gave advice on the scenes.

[@ib3scope]

Mick Gould

[@bajs3666]

still the best shootout scene ever made period, but thanks for the good points

[@danielmarshall4587]

As always thank you Mr Vickers, great to revisit this video.

[@superiorflannel9063]

Do 13 hours! Loved the video. This is something I can share with my friends that aren’t to much of gunguys in to gunstuff, tsctics and get them interested.

[@drum57yellow]

Sicario bridge scene next please!

[@appliedperformance773]

Malcolm Thomas . Yep I’d like to hear his thoughts on going into a gunfight with your bolt locked to the rear😂.

[@christaylor6085]

Excellent summary of different shooting, techniques & firearms used on Heat movie

[@charlesalberti563]

If this would have been in Florida the cops would have just blown up the road, civilians and all

[@jasonarmstrong5750]

At this point I’m convinced Florida is just one giant meth lab

[@AQUAPHREESH193]

Charles Alberti 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tlshortyshorty5810]

I love my state

[@karanvirkooner1993]

Heat(1995) is action filmmaking perfection and a masterpiece it’s in my Top 5 favorite movies for all you writers and directors take note this is how you do an excellent action movie

[@8kigana]

Michael Man is the man when it comes to excellent scenic movies, the best in the business.

[@sw1412]

I saw this movie in a theater located in urban Philadelphia. The shootout scene was accompanied with incredible sound that was overwhelming. I was at full alert because I seriously thought someone in the audience was going to open fire as well. This might sound weird to some......some that have not been to Philadelphia.

[@PltAnt]

Excellent episode and concept, Looking forward for more

[@joffy9373]

This video came in my recommended and seeing that robbery scene got me instantly hooked. I've now just finished watching this movie and it was superb, brilliant. That street fight scene gave me eargasm and the acting and pace of the movie overall was brilliant. My rating of it would easily be 8/10 and I'm gonna buy this movie on blu-ray (if that exist) for sure so I can watch it again with my dad.

[@joelmuller358]

Interesting thing, as I watched this movie during my military service (Swedish Army) with my training officers (who praised DeNiro's shooting over Kilmer's, the latter tending to wave his rifle around while shooting, in a bit of spray-and-pray manner). Doubly interesting since we were trained on the AK5 (Swedish FNC) and were taught the same reload procedure as Pacino uses (ie racking with your trigger hand). This was how it was taught around the turn of the millennium though, and when my brother went in, about five years ago, he was taught to turn it over on rack with his off hand (and was taught a completely different shooting stance).

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

The AK5 is going to be replaced soon by AR platform. Both Norway and Denmark standard issue rifles are AR's, Hk416 and canadian Diemaco AR. My brother is in the swedish navy and he uses a HK53 with collapsible stock, and other use HK G36k

[@cripplehawk]

Wes Studi who plays one of the detectives (The one that puts Kilmer out of the fight at 7:10 ) was a combat veteran in Vietnam in real life...Just FYI.

[@DB2A7]

This is great Larry. We need one for The Town next.

[@daviddistefano7520]

Damn Larry, you lost a Ton of weight there brother...

[@Hamzat22]

Great episode, I want more! Best regards from Poland Larry! PS i have a Galil SAR:)

[@tanveerzahoor816]

This movie was on tv last week. First time i watched it. That shooting scene was epic. Sounds effects were spot on. Val kilmer and de niro nailed it.

[@Axl3121]

Please cover the North Hollywood shootout! Not a movie but changed the law enforcement game nonetheless

[@bware5433]

Axl3121 sure did. In a huge way

[@Finance357]

Here is a TV Movie about it, www.imdb.com/title/tt0362389/

[@SpaghettiFPV-tg3qh]

fuckin runnin to a gun store for ar15's... hard times

[@spookypunky]

@@SpaghettiFPV-tg3qh yeah, thanks California for allowing criminals to have full auto weapons and NONE for SWAT. Good idea

[@J_Braz_]

Paul Harrel has a great video disecting the encident.

[@gkft]

Heat? Vickers? Today's my lucky day.

[@charlesvaughan7148]

Just finding this segment. Great breakdown of the scene. Love for you to do more.

[@Knight_of_the_Old_Code]

Would like to see a video like this on "Den of Thieves." Nice video, sir.

[@bricketdabrown9607]

Catlin Young that’s a modern day heat, excellent movie.

[@Knight_of_the_Old_Code]

@@bricketdabrown9607 Yep. Some of the tactics used in the firefights were legit...

[@James2001]

Bricket DaBrown you mean the movie where the badass police operator uses red dot optic on his duty pistol, but irons on his SCAR? Yeah, great realism there.

[@sethvicious]

Would love to see your take on Sicario!

[@kilomike4380]

Informative and Fun thanks Mr.Vickers👍👍👍

[@FrankPetersonIII]

"Taking off, back's wide open, groceries pouring out the back." I love how matter of fact you were about that. lol