Victor Newman Argument 2

Victor argues with Jack and Jill

[@DeepScreenAnalysis]

"I am NOT overjoyed... I AM INCREDULOUS!"

[@travfdy]

😂

[@cuzitsnecessary]

When Victor opens his rant with "I don't give a damn" it's time to run 😁

[@laminage]

I love your Pic. Shell A with Sheila & Brooke. Once they were BFF's and former Wives of Eric Forrester now Brooke has washed her hands of her.

[@colinwilliams553]

"Eric Braden is KING!!"

[@angelmarie2281]

Bill Bell was a genius. He can make business storylines so captivating.

[@laminage]

Yes, it still does. They dropped the ball for awhile. Now there's Jabot, who are affiliated with Fenmore's, Brash & Sassy, GC Buzz. I know that Vicor is going to go ballistic when he finds out what Abby did buying the Warehouse for The Computer Start Ups. It's not going to work. I just know it.

[@angelmarie2281]

laminage When I wrote this it was before Bill Bell's protégé came back. I agree with you!

[@laminage]

Oh Gee Whiz. Thanks! I have a feeling that Chloe is going to spend the rest of her life in Prison, Kevin will be banished to another Country, and he will discover that Billy Abbott is Bella's Father and not Kevin. Abby is such a Whiner. I sometimes feel she doesn't measure up because of how she was born. Having Ashley steal Victor's Sperm and putting it inside her to make up for the Baby she aborted back in the day.

[@laminage]

Yep. In comparison to Guiding Light, you actually see people working. Even The "Extras" looked Glamorous and Sophisticated. Spaulding was once a powerhouse as was Lewis Oil/Construction but it became a shell of it's former self. Even when Spaulding acquired Lewis Oil, you never saw Billy Lewis & Josh Lewis trying to get it back.

[@intellisquid]

Yes!

[@maxwellraboin5345]

When you see the first sign of Victor Newman's explosive anger, thats when you know its time to run

[@debraking4923]

i ❤ Victor in these scenes. He is Soap Opera Greatness! He is a Smart & Great Businessman. When Victor screamed at you then you knew your time with him was over.

[@kathyguinto4585]

Eric Braeden's a great actor,especially in the role of Victor Newman,supurb!.John M Guinto

[@laminage]

Yes but don't forget he is riding on The Sholders of The men who came before him. George Reinholt (Ex Steve Frame Another World), Michael Zaslow (Ex Roger Thorpe Guiding Light). It's irrelevant but look at Taylor Swift, folks make a big whoop de do about her but they forget that "before" her there was Brenda Lee, Little Peggy March, Lesley Gore (RIP), Debbie Gibson & Tiffany). For Beyonce it's Little Eva who did the "original" Version of Locomotion. Then Stacey Lattisaw who kicked the door open not only for her, but Shanice, Monica, and Brandy.

[@MrNotbadyou]

Not one single dollah! Victor rules.

[@amsmith4]

I always laugh at the words Victor uses, "Incredulous", "Temerity". I'd be there hearing him yell, but also have a dictionary open to try and figure out what he was saying. Plus insert *Storm Troopers running away from the room* for any secretary walking by the room to deliver papers....like "I'll come back later" lol

[@bratton79]

I used to have to break out my dictionary too, but I credit Victor for helping me to build my vocabulary when I was in high school. I’m a bit more erudite as a direct result of watching Y&R!

[@ThreeLions82]

Once Victor decided on something that was the end of it.

[@marcelparker6755]

YOU GOT THAT?!

[@laminage]

Yes. Another Catch Phrase was Erica Davidson on Prisoner Cell Block H (later remade as Wentworth), where she would always say "Come In" to anyone most notably The Guards. Then Peggy Mitchell would scream "Get Out Of My Pub!" Dennison Vanguard was a disaster especially when the product that they marketed tanked.

[@terrygyimah1956]

See that is why Victor can't trust Jack because he does underhanded things like going behind Victor's back when it is Victor's company

[@laminage]

Terry Gyimah Yes. Did Victor still own Jabot at the time?

[@terrygyimah1956]

I think he did but I am not exactly sure but Jack went against Victor's authority both him and Jill and they can't do that

[@laminage]

Word! Hey do you remember when Jill, Jack, and Keith Dennison got read the Riot Act because A Product they marketed got crushed by The Competition. Victor picked up and put down that Black Book so many times, he was so furious. Also do you think that Marissa is Victor's Daughter by Ramona.

[@RamonaHaygood]

Oooh Vintage Victor

[@jamessanto9745]

Miss those days ❤️, Victor Newman in charge 👍

[@KH-lw5ze]

Victor is my favorite character. Good man.

[@jamessanto9745]

@@KH-lw5ze Yes, I'm a big Eric Breaden fan, love him and Victor Newman always

[@visionairetv149]

3:07 "I don't give A DAM"!

[@MrCraigblaze]

The one from 1996 was a good one ..When Jill left Victors office you could see her seam trails...XD

[@destinclemons5603]

MrCraigblaze Yeah I think you are talking about the one When Jill tried to stand toe to toe with Victor an he told her I am Your Worst Living Nightmare Lol! Then later on Victor gets Shot! Everyone Thinking it was Jill but Mari Jo was the suspect

[@RukudoSage69]

Hiding behind Jill won't save you jack lolz

[@biannwilmer27]

I loved Jill as a businesswoman

[@cjermainesmith5229]

Ferocious

[@RY-fe3rt]

Compare this to the way Y&R is dragging... Er... handling their business stories in 2023. I don't know a damn thing about business but was emotionally invested all the way through. Stellar work!

[@bilalahmed2123]

I really liked the old Victor. His children and Nikki have made him too mellow !

[@kathyguinto4585]

Victor Newman reminds me of a german dictator every time he gets mad and starts yelling,he makes me laugh when he blows his top like that.John Guinto

[@KH-lw5ze]

Victor was great here. Had me shook lol. This was early 1997.

[@laminage]

Please pray for Eric Braeden who is now battling Prostate Cancer.

[@scootover7]

Definitely praying for him, He is Y&R to me what Roger Thorpe was to Guiding Light

[@laminage]

@@scootover7 Amen! Also when Michael got a posthumous Soap Opera Digest Award, he as well as David Canary (Ex Adam/Stuart Chandler) stood and paid homage to him. They knew that in his own way they were riding on Michael's Shoulders. Michael as Roger Thorpe can make you hate him but then feel sorry for him because all he wanted was to be accepted but he goes around doing it the wrong way over and over.

[@fantasybouthour6679]

I won’t lie Victor was scary. 😂

[@laminage]

Oh but he was! 😂. Remember when he, Keith Dennison, Jack & Jill had the meeting and Victor had a Black Book and he kept throwing it up and down over and over. Their Product bombed (although we didn't know what it was) while the competition was singing all the way to the Bank. I'm sure that Dennison Vanguard was a Company alot of competitors were happy not to have.

[@Matlockization]

Victor appeared very sharp in the right amounts.

[@johnwest1688]

I think Victor would have been a good actor on Dallas him and Jr going head-to-head

[@bilalahmed2123]

I miss the old Victor Newman.

[@KJTV67]

He's the only one there is!

[@bilalahmed2123]

Me too

[@seanb6230]

Victor had me shook 😂😂

[@laminage]

Joan on Mad Men said the same thing about folding their tents when they were ogling scarlett.

[@Manuel-zo3wg]

Eric Breaden Victor Newman is incredible actor . 🙏 🕊️ He beats cancer Geez

[@fantasybouthour6679]

Would you kindly repeat just what you said😱

[@mjj1434]

So Victor gets mad they made the deal. !

[@danilang3504]

Oh gosh! Watching this scene with Jill interacting with Victor just makes me wish the venomous Brenda Dickson version went up against Victor back in the 80s. Now I love Jess Walton's Jill but Brenda, though campy, could hold her own in fight better than Jess'. version. Man what a fight that would have been between her and Victor. Two ruthless business people going against each other. And yes Brenda's Jill was a better business person than Jack.

[@laminage]

Yes but unfortunately Brenda Dickson is Persona Non Grata. She has an affair with Bill Bell and is now Blacklisted like Victoria Rowell. She ended up Homeless and even in Prison. Heartbreaking. Another person who was on the cusp of Homelessness back in the day was the late George Reinholt who played Steven Frame on Another World from 1968-1973. He rented his House out to a Family and converted his Garage into an Apt.

[@ThreeLions82]

Victor would have crushed her.

[@laminage]

@@ThreeLions82 They would have had a screaming 😱 match.

[@userfridaywiggly18943]

@@ThreeLions82 nah Brenda’s Jill would’ve eaten victor Alive !

[@personaldove]

@@userfridaywiggly18943 Nah. Jess was already going head to head with Victor anyway.

[@MrJawstherevenge87]

What the hell was wrong with the company they bought?? Victor acts like it was selling babies on the black matket

[@personaldove]

He just hates that he was not asked for permission by his subjects. He always had a gigantic ego.

[@laminage]

​@@personaldove He had no interest in Dennison/Vanguard from the get go he made it clear but Jack didn't listen. Also it was a professional embarassment because it would eventually go bankrupt.

[@FaytLinegod]

Did Victor ever say why he was so opposed to acquiring this company?

[@laminage]

This is why Jack can never match up to Victor's Business Expertise. He doesn't "Listen", he believes his own hype and that's why Victor got so angry. I don't blame him one bit.

[@cecilharmon1832]

This is Young And The Restless

[@johnharris750]

I had to put on close caption every time Victor was on⭐️I had a hard time keeping up with him⭐️

[@BeeABaw]

All Jill and Jack would have to do is take it to Kathrine and she would eat Victor's profit alive, poor bastard would be begging for it back.

[@ccapcapu6615]

Where is the first vidéo (argument 1) ?

[@mjj1434]

@ETM ETM - So who was the deal with? Keith Dennison!

[@laminage]

Yes! he owned dennison vanguard and he agreed to sell it under the newman umbrella. victor "said" he didn't want any part of the company but jack and jill still went and did it. takecovers and sales are trully bonechilling. in 1987 berry gordy sold motown to polydor for 88 million who in turn sold it to mca/universal for 300 million. that means any motown records from back in the day have to go through mca/universal that owns nbc, and bravo as well.

[@skynetprime82]

As the c.o.o of victor's company jack had the legal authority to make deals which would've been profitable for newman enterprises

[@laminage]

+Vincent Thompson Yes but Victor told Jack from The Get Go that he didn't want to acquire Dennison-Vanguard. That's why he got so angry.

[@skynetprime82]

laminage even I have to admit that victor was hilarious in this clip though lol

[@laminage]

Yeah, Victor is Gangsta! Did you ever see the Scene where he screams at Jack, Jill and Keith Dennison over a product that tanked while a Competing Company made bank on the Similar product. He picked up and threw down that Black Book over and over again.

[@skynetprime82]

+laminage nah, I missed that one lol

[@ronniewoodssr.8939]

Victor Newman is the man. He will set the straight. Jack Abbot hides behind Jill like a scared puke. He has to have her fight his battles and he still loses.

[@edwardbennett7813]

Sure pissed him off good

[@RamonaHaygood]

U thought wrong!

[@christophercummings4502]

The great Eric Braeden

[@omnielectron9616]

I bet Jill and Jack went to change underwear after this argument.

[@travfdy]

Sooo... What happened next? 😄

[@bratton79]

Unbeknownst to Victor, his son Nick, who had begun training as an executive at Newman Enterprises had worked on the Dennison Vanguard acquisition deal. Nick experienced the full brunt of Victor’s ruthlessness when Victor found out that Nick was involved in the acquisition. Victor bellowed at Nick, and made it perfectly clear that NE was HIS company and no one, not even his own son has the right to negotiate business deals behind Victor’s back. Victor and Nick have been at odds with each other ever since.

[@laminage]

@@bratton79 Yes, but Nick got more cart blanche than he should have. When Ryan McNeil and Neil Winters started at Jabot shortly after The Takeover they worked in The Mailroom then worked their way up. Also Victor "did" tell Jack that Nick was not to get any special treatment although he was Family. Remember he had to work under Neil Winters.

[@cre8tivity87]

@@laminage I thought Neil was hired in a management position. Doesn't he hold a business degree from Harvard or somewhere else?

[@Vereid]

@@cre8tivity87 that’s how I remember it as well. Neil was higher up. Drucilla started in the mail room when John hired her and that’s how she met Neil.

[@laminage]

​@@cre8tivity87Neil graduated from Stanford with an MBA. He started out in The Mailroom along with Ryan McNeil at Jabot then Neil & Ryan would later work at Newman Enterprsies. However unlike Ryan Neil became a member of the Board.

[@darkoanton5]

You thought wrong. I don't give a damn. 😊