VICTORINOX VENTURE - Sandvik 14c28n - KNIFE DESTRUCTION TEST - UNTIL IT BREAKS

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JOE X

JOE X

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@FelixImmler
@FelixImmler 3 ай бұрын
Sorry, is it possible, that not every knife is designed for your special tasks??🤣🤣 In my opinion, the market is saturated with very stable, almost indestructible knife blades for Rambos like you. But there is a reason why this knives are so stable. These knives are so stable because the cross section geometry behind the cutting edge quickly increases in strength. A sturdy, indestructible knife is certainly cool, but it has the disadvantage that the performance for cutting and carving tasks is worse. I and Victorinox had the opinion, that we dont want do the same thing as all the other knife companies. With the Venture we tried to address a different customer segment. These are the people who want a knife, which is designt for what a knife primarily should be suitable for.. cutting and carving. Splitting, prying and chopping are not the tasks the Venture is designed for. I don't know how you got the stupid idea that this should be a survival knife. A knife connoisseur should quick notice that this cannot be a survival knife because of its low weight. By the way, grinding off so much material... it's expensive... no company does that simply for fun. There is a concept behind it. The venture has a thickness of 0.4 mm behind the cutting edge. That is extremely thin! On the other hand, the displacement of wood during carving is low and it penetrates the wood more easily. Your test was like testing a Ferrari on his off-road capabilities and after you say: " Don't buy it, this Ferrari is totally bullshit!" Actually, I'm proud of the knife because the knife started broke at this point, when you started with the brainless part of your test. Up to and including the chopping hardwood, the knife was stable enough. My conclusion: It is okay, if you don't like the knife but it annoys me that you as a "knife expert" didn't realize what this knife is made for. For that you don't need a lot of knife knowledge... just a spark would be enough...
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Your knife is marketed as bush survival, and thats a marketing gag! check your website, i also linked it! And btw. it is true - i am Rambo!!!!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
quote "From hiking and camping to bush survival, it’s all taken care of."
@noname-wt3zw
@noname-wt3zw 3 ай бұрын
Ich glaube Joe ist ein wenig getroffen von deiner Antwort 😂, wer gibt sich selbst ein rotes Herzchen ... ? Ihr habt beide recht, das Messer ist ein Sonderfall und kein Bushcraft Survival Messer. Wieviele hat Victorinox bis jetzt davon verkauft?
@Kyle-bb9zp
@Kyle-bb9zp 3 ай бұрын
Awesome knife Felix I like it. I don't own one but I do like it and appreciate it also be it's 75 dollars that's a really good price.
@FelixImmler
@FelixImmler 3 ай бұрын
@@joex Hey Joe, I followed your link and yes, you're right... in deed they wrote something about "bush survival". What ever that is... i don't know this word. To be honest, i fightet from the first second against the super bad advertising texts. But this is not your problem... this is a problem of a big companie. If you are a kind of person who like to spread negativity and hate, you can take this knife and you can abuse it with insane tasks it's obviously not designed for, you can say 7000 times "Fuck" into the camera and you can tell to your viewers that this is the worst knife you ever held in your hand. Or you can switch on our brain, and say that this knife is useless for destrying a car but because of the fine geometrie you can may be fillet a fish or carve a spoon. Unfortunately the world is so sick that you get more views with the first variant... Seen in this way, you are doing everything right.
@ZILAwelds
@ZILAwelds 3 ай бұрын
I was waiting for that review for over a year !!!! You said it was coming and here it is !!!! 👍👍👍
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah, this one is for you my friend! haha!°
@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc 3 ай бұрын
I love Victorx pocket knives, but this is not to par with my expectations, for price or quality. Thank you for the amazing tests, and your honesty in all you do. Was du machst ist unglaublich wichtig für alle Verkäufer, mil gracias, hermano! abrazo
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i like them too! but not this one! u are welcome!
@thomasjohn1519
@thomasjohn1519 3 ай бұрын
The bane of blades and old cars strikes again. I assume the red handle was for perfectly camouflaging the blood of the user. Let's appreciate the dedication of this man for pushing the limits of blades and performing destruction tests on them.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@russellcharles7839
@russellcharles7839 3 ай бұрын
Basic camp utility knife maybe. Hard use survival no. That thing is heat treated super hard if it's chipping like that with 14c28n.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i think he says it is a Bushcraft knife, but for me there is no differnce !
@Ve-suvius
@Ve-suvius 3 ай бұрын
@@joex Agreed. Only nitpickers will see differences. It should handle all kinds of choirs, in bushcraft and in survival. If a Mora can do it, this knife should do it also.
@2Snakes
@2Snakes 3 ай бұрын
@@Ve-suvius Amen.
@Ve-suvius
@Ve-suvius 3 ай бұрын
@@2Snakes 👍
@greyowl8279
@greyowl8279 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Joe for cheering me up 😁
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
awesome ! Marlboro!!!!!!
@luciosila2183
@luciosila2183 3 ай бұрын
Eres el mejor! Saludos amigo! ✌️
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
abrazos mi amor!
@krov_oseni
@krov_oseni 3 ай бұрын
Great video! Victorinox is not for hard use
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks true!
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci 3 ай бұрын
Correct
@shawnpatrick1877
@shawnpatrick1877 3 ай бұрын
If you mean they're not for low I.Q. dumbasses who don't know how to actually use a knife, or KZbin morons who beat them to chop wood or stab the engine block of cars with them, then no, they're not for that kind of hard use. This thing is clearly overpriced though for what it is.
@Vierzylinderdiesel
@Vierzylinderdiesel Ай бұрын
The stability of the handle material is impressive! Four shots from the Glock to finally get a look inside. I am pleasantly surprised that the tang is larger than expected. I also wouldn't have thought that the small carving knife would punch holes in the sheet metal so confidently. And I had feared that the thin tip would already break off during battoning, which it didn't do. All in all, I am very satisfied with the performance of the Venture, which is of course not a survival knife. Thanks for this test! I like my Venture!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
cool!
@8626John
@8626John 3 ай бұрын
Joe X is the worst thing to happen to Switzerland since the Black Death.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
they are our Eidgenossen!!
@8626John
@8626John 3 ай бұрын
​@@joexAnd yet, you showed them no mercy!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
@@8626John
@Gedankengeist
@Gedankengeist 3 ай бұрын
Oh shit, the blade is not the hit, Frau Schmitt !!! 😁 - Best tester ever! - Always give this: 👍❤ Nice greetings to all - Gedankengeist was here! 👻
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
danke!
@alidengastonmartinez3116
@alidengastonmartinez3116 3 ай бұрын
The best of los best..... aguante el venture loco
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
gracias!
@vibeslide
@vibeslide 3 ай бұрын
I'm going against public opinion here and call the Venture's performance quite decent. Victorinox calls it an outdoor and Bushcraft knife and not a survival knife. You also have to consider the geometry, it's rather thin, has a full flat grind and is stainless, which is like the worst combination possible for toughness but very nice for crafting, cutting, and food prep.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
ok! understood! but i hit some nerves out there!
@michaelwaldeck7081
@michaelwaldeck7081 3 ай бұрын
Actually 14c28n is suppose to be a lot Tougher than say 1095.
@vibeslide
@vibeslide 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelwaldeck7081 Possibly, but there's still the matter of geometry, and heat treatment.
@highplains7777
@highplains7777 3 ай бұрын
Hmmm...14C28N is a tough steel, up there with carbon steels like 80CRV2 and 52100. I say the heat treat was suboptimal, but your points about geometry and intended purpose are correct I believe. If you look at the grain structure of the broken blade, it looks a little rough to me, like maybe they soaked it too long during heat treatment. I am specifically referring to @21:37.
@vibeslide
@vibeslide 3 ай бұрын
@@highplains7777 I'm not an expert of and therefore not able to give a qualified comment on the grain structure. What I do know is, based on roughly 30 years of using and abusing knives, that full flats are by far the most utilitarian and best for everything except woodwork and batoning, but also the ones that break the easiest.
@druids84
@druids84 3 ай бұрын
Awesome review, thanks Joe X! Indeed, marketing it as a "bush survival" knife in their official knife description is a bit too far of a stretch. Even the designer (awesome guy) admitted that the edge grind has been chosen very thin (0.3-0.4mm) so that this knife would be extremely good at cutting and slicing, so you compromise on ruggedness. Combine that with the fact that they tempered the Sandvik 14C28N to very high hardness, and you get thinly ground, brittle knife. But I was actually surprised that it even got through the log battoning, as other reviewers have had the edge roll even on hard use against wood. Overall - a good camp/companion knife, assuming you have another hard-use tool with you - at least a hatchet or a 6-8"+ knife. If someone absolutely hates Scandi grinds, then this knife would be an OK alternative in lightweight hiking/camping, if you need to count each gram of gear. But as you said - you pay more and get less durability than the Mora Companion HD.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks for the info! www.victorinox.com/en/Venture-Collection/cms/venture-collection/ i checked it, it says "bush survival" !!!
@retardno002
@retardno002 3 ай бұрын
​@@joexhahahaha "bush survival" but it comes with tweezers. Tweezers are essential in a survival situation after your knife breaks, because you can pluck your eyebrows to look pretty for all the boys who are going to Marlboro you.
@brotzeitmensch8204
@brotzeitmensch8204 3 ай бұрын
those who read original manufacturer data clearly have an advantage: the producing company and the designer emphasize the benefits of a sharp cutting tool for camping, hiking and KITCHEN use. look it up on the manufacturerers page, there is a manual to the knife. This knife ist NOT designed as a "survival" knife. so i don't understand the critics on it not being one. as i can see from your awesome tests, it works well on wood, it doesn't break on the first brick hit, so it will survive falling down on a rock, that is enough for my uses of a camp-kitchen knife. unlike other knives you brought beyoung their limits. thank you for your work showing us the limits.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
as i said, a kitchen knife!!!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
my tests are like this, check my Mora tests! cheaper blades and better performance!
@retardno002
@retardno002 3 ай бұрын
​@@joex this is very close to a Mora in terms of handle and blade materials, just better suited for abuse. The Mora is shorter, thicker (spine), and narrower (blade width), but the steel and handles are almost the same. I'd rather bushcraft with a Mora and cook with a Victorinox, which is what they're made for 😅
@xavieroudin2791
@xavieroudin2791 3 ай бұрын
at the very beginning, it was a knife but at the end it is a toothpick... thank you Sir !!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
u are welcome, well said!
@dasta7658
@dasta7658 3 ай бұрын
Maybe this is how Victorinox is now making their toothpicks for their Swiss Army Knives 😆
@GP-d3n
@GP-d3n Ай бұрын
Eher nur altmetall 😊
@nathanwhite5602
@nathanwhite5602 3 ай бұрын
Good job on the video the toughest part of the knife was the handle
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
exactly!!!
@aliveandkicking1977
@aliveandkicking1977 3 ай бұрын
I like it, not red, maybe yellow, thanks for the destructtest.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
u are welcome my friend!
@dreadnaughttactical
@dreadnaughttactical 3 ай бұрын
You dont like the red one? - are you not woke..? Are your pronouns not "Them" and "Her" like Joe X..?
@aliveandkicking1977
@aliveandkicking1977 3 ай бұрын
@@dreadnaughttactical There is one wok that I like, and that is the one that is placed on the fire.
@rossboss14
@rossboss14 3 ай бұрын
Cool test Amigo ! 👊🏻 🌵😎
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks!
@sigmundklaus
@sigmundklaus 2 ай бұрын
amazing, you should start reviewing guitars... testing how good they sound if you play them with drum sticks. That would just as relevant as this knife test.
@joex
@joex 2 ай бұрын
yeah good idea!
@ajaxk5522
@ajaxk5522 3 ай бұрын
Wow. I didn't expect those chips and the tip breaking so easily. 14c28n is supposed to be quite tough, maybe bad heat treatment?
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
it was a weird test!
@TheDavewatts
@TheDavewatts 3 ай бұрын
I think companies leave themselves wide open when they call their blade a survival knife, especially when it chips so easy.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah, this one is marketing!
@brotzeitmensch8204
@brotzeitmensch8204 3 ай бұрын
it is not marketed as a survival blade.
@2Snakes
@2Snakes 3 ай бұрын
@@brotzeitmensch8204 Should be marketed as a "suckers blade" for the price you pay.
@brotzeitmensch8204
@brotzeitmensch8204 3 ай бұрын
@@2Snakes i do not share your opinion. as i life in more-or-less-urban environment, this knife is probably more likely to be part of my picknik equipment than a cold steel trail master or a varusteleka skrama.
@GP-d3n
@GP-d3n Ай бұрын
Der griff ist das beste an dem messer😊
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
richtig!
@Truth1144
@Truth1144 3 ай бұрын
What knives would you bet your live on?
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
none!
@thegreyghost2789
@thegreyghost2789 3 ай бұрын
A paring knife maybe but not something to take into the woods and stake your life on. I have a mora with the same steel and the Mora is much softer. It seems to me that Victorinox made the blade much harder than they should have, thus making it brittle.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
those Fanboi KZbinrs are promoting this butter knife! unbelieveable!
@volodymyrstudenets
@volodymyrstudenets 3 ай бұрын
JOE X, is posible test Spanish knife Joker Nomad? Thanks for best test steel vidoes.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
maybe!
@notafuckinsnipa1314
@notafuckinsnipa1314 3 ай бұрын
Hi Joe, what do you think about reviewing the Spyderco Paramilitary 2 s45vn? It’s a pretty famous knife and also one of people’s favorite EDC. I know it won’t survive your test because of its fragile blade structure, anyway it would be a great video. Let me know. Bye
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i dont know, i dont like big holes in blades!
@GP-d3n
@GP-d3n Ай бұрын
Ich dachte nicht das es schlechter ist als ein mora gut gemacht joe
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
danke!
@Дмитро-ы8ю
@Дмитро-ы8ю 3 ай бұрын
I never trusted Victorinox by my guts 😂😂. Thanks for your video 💪💯🏆
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@heyarno
@heyarno 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if that steel is overhyped, or if it's too hard to do the proper heat treatment. But my stainless Garberg already arrived with edge damge. I banged the spines of the stainless Garberg and a companion together, to see if the Garberg steel is really stronger. The garberg got dents and the companion was fine. While the carbon steel Garberg arrived in perfect condition. I once thought I arrived at a knot in a piece of wood. So I got a bigger baton. And the carbon Garberg went through without any edge damage. It turned out, there was a screw in the wood. And the Garberg just went through.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
this blade is overhyped by all the YT fanbois!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Garberg is 10 times better !
@heyarno
@heyarno 3 ай бұрын
@@joex I have only seen one guy who play pretends survival and does some arts and crafts with the knife.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
ok!
@SteinzVsKnives
@SteinzVsKnives 3 ай бұрын
Joe my brotha much love and always Marlboro
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!!!!
@Robertssurvivalsystems
@Robertssurvivalsystems 3 ай бұрын
Awesome vid. Looks like they made a light duty knife
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks!
@steverose3318
@steverose3318 3 ай бұрын
Anyone who has hunted on the move and lived out of a backpack can tell you the value of a " lite" knife. Going as ( lite) as possible is crucial. I'd bet there are more old school hunters who have actually been in real survival situations and didn't even acknowledge it, as opposed to all the " knife - boy survivalists " of today. The youngsters of today must stay within cell service range and be able to play Halo in their $19.99 Walmart tents.
@alien70nsew
@alien70nsew 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for what you are doing, you saved a lot of money to a lot of people. Victorinox is a good brand for casual use, I have a lot of them. My opinion is that they should change their steel if they want to compete on the market. I've switched to Ruike brand - made in China, not perfect but very good quality and they are affordable. They are literary a Boker copy/paste, but better and cheaper. Victorinox should really rethink their strategy. Keep up the good work.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
u are welcome! glad to have u here!
@MarkSenger
@MarkSenger 3 ай бұрын
Glad you're still working with knives and hope you would test some puma knives to failure. Ive had a few for 25yrs or more from my father's supply.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
cool, thanks a lot! maybe i do that!
@8626John
@8626John 3 ай бұрын
My wife and I were looking at some rural property today and we saw an abandoned car and my wife said "Joe X would stab the crap out of that thing." Lol
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
hell yeah! she is so right!!!!
@torsten4757
@torsten4757 3 ай бұрын
Im impressed at minute 7:13 that this camp kitchen knife can split these piece of acacia tree..... But I don´t buy one 😛😛😛 Gruß aus DE !!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
splitting was nice! servus!
@MT07long
@MT07long 2 ай бұрын
GJ
@TheUnseenPath-X
@TheUnseenPath-X 3 ай бұрын
Appears to be much worse than the Mora Garberg, in the same steel. But the price is also much lower. Good video!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
much worse!!!!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Garber is a beast, this one is a chicken sheat!
@TheUnseenPath-X
@TheUnseenPath-X 3 ай бұрын
@@joex :))
@here_be_dragons9184
@here_be_dragons9184 3 ай бұрын
Idk if you shop around you can find the garberg for about the same price.
@colosse83
@colosse83 3 ай бұрын
2 different styles of knives. victorinox would be much much better as a food prep knife than Ganberg
@Nick-lm5lz
@Nick-lm5lz 3 ай бұрын
Why should I get this over a Mora ?
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
no reason for that!
@Nick-lm5lz
@Nick-lm5lz 3 ай бұрын
@@joex what fixed blade for not a lot of money would you recommend ? I have 5 Mora knives already
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Cold Steel Outdoorsman did good!
@Ve-suvius
@Ve-suvius 3 ай бұрын
@@Nick-lm5lz More Mora's. 😋 Hultafors? Hultafor GK .
@flemishlion69
@flemishlion69 3 ай бұрын
My first knife i got when i was a boyscout was a Victorinox i always felt they where crap knives.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i like the folders, but this one...........
@4850937
@4850937 3 ай бұрын
14C28N knives: Eafengrow EF-125, ZT0170, Schnitzel Tri
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
ok cool!
@elpequeniogranmatondelainterne
@elpequeniogranmatondelainterne 3 ай бұрын
Bancando los trapos desde Ciudad Evita
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
gracias amigo!
@Mortem_Tyrannis_24
@Mortem_Tyrannis_24 3 ай бұрын
You better be careful what you call a survival knife, especially if Joe X gets a hold of it!😮😂😂😂😂
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i think they called it bushcraft but who cares!
@Mortem_Tyrannis_24
@Mortem_Tyrannis_24 3 ай бұрын
@@joex👍🏻👍🏻
@greencanopybushcraftsurviv6713
@greencanopybushcraftsurviv6713 3 ай бұрын
I agree that Joe X tests are very extreme and don't really mirror real-world usage for bushcraft and survival, however, they really show IMO the structural stability and endurance. I have many knives, cheap and expensive, from small manufacturers and larger ones. I use these often on survival and bushcraft adventures on a regular basis. I have been shocked at times how a knife with "super steel " and costs 250 euros breaks out when a cheaper knife with "standard steel" doesn't. And yes, sorry, a knife should be able to baton a little if required (not extreme, though) and be able to be used for prying, if it is marketed as a survival knife. Otherwise, it is just a camp chore and food prep knife. I was considering buying this victorinox some months ago but decided that it is not just the right knife for my usage or requirements. It's not a bad knife (not perfect, though), although i find a bit expensive and has many innovative features, but it needs to be marketed with a more honest description. I think Joe X's videos are very entertaining and does show at to what level a knife is capable of in stress tests. I see them as a kind of scale for the toughness and durability of a knife. Every knife will fail eventually, but the question is when and how. @Felix - don't get stressed, and don't take it personally. Just market your"knife" for what it really is and be happy with it (lowering the price would be also not a bad idea). @Joe X - keep up the entertaining videos, they are funny as hell. But maybe not be so nasty with the remarks 😂
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
nasty? this is normal speech! if i would be really nasty i would be banned from YT!
@greencanopybushcraftsurviv6713
@greencanopybushcraftsurviv6713 3 ай бұрын
​@@joex😂👍
@bryanteal
@bryanteal 3 ай бұрын
I would think that Victorinox wanted to compete with the Mora Garberg..... Wow, not even close!!! Thanks for what you do, JoeX!!! 🤜🗡🤛 Bryan from Nova Scotia
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i really think so too! but more with the HD from Mora!
@ziggarillo
@ziggarillo 3 ай бұрын
How about the Boker Vigtig in Magnacut?
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
never heard of her"!
@DeathMetalSon
@DeathMetalSon 3 ай бұрын
If you want something similar for a much lower price try Sanremu s708. It's a great secondary to a bigger, heavier knife
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
ok cool!
@elgrandjefe4661
@elgrandjefe4661 3 ай бұрын
I thought JoeX blood would melt the steel. JoeX you may be needing nutrients, blood not acid enough. Edge was very brittle, and of course it snapped off the tip. Better the knife than... other stuff.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i drink the blood of my fanbois!
@rupertkoyd9944
@rupertkoyd9944 3 ай бұрын
What is your favourite knife?
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i hope mine soon!
@rupertkoyd9944
@rupertkoyd9944 3 ай бұрын
​@@joexwhat?
@rupertkoyd9944
@rupertkoyd9944 3 ай бұрын
I like your videos😂what knife you like?
@rupertkoyd9944
@rupertkoyd9944 3 ай бұрын
​@@joexI also hope mine soon😂k bye
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
the JOEX blade is a work in progress!
@charon207
@charon207 24 күн бұрын
My favorite brand is victorinox. especially victorinox swiss champ..., but I would not take this knife into the forest for survival. Venture is presented as for survival, but in reality it is not for survival, but only for light work or for the kitchen. I like videos with victorinox, but I would take a better knife for the forest that can universal work.
@joex
@joex 24 күн бұрын
ok cool!
@Minuteman-gj5rl
@Minuteman-gj5rl 2 ай бұрын
I'd like to see a review of Victorinox paring knives. Ed Calderon used a small Victorinox paring knife as a fighting knife.
@joex
@joex 2 ай бұрын
Victorinox is done for a while, i can stand the wining of this fat dude!
@The_jungle_boy
@The_jungle_boy 3 ай бұрын
Would love to see a test on the yoshimi machete by condor. I absolutely love your videos, before I buy machetes for jungle expeditions I watch your videos first.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
discontinued!
@The_jungle_boy
@The_jungle_boy 3 ай бұрын
@@joex that’s sad to hear, keep up the great work though!
@Waldschrat22
@Waldschrat22 3 ай бұрын
The Reasson for such easy Breaks is the Hardness, and the full flat Grind...i can't understand why Victorinox makes such a thin Spine...for that Grind ( full Flat) is a thicker Blade much, much better for a Bushcraft Knife!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah, thanks for the info!
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci 3 ай бұрын
This guy is having a fist fight with his capslock button
@kkdm7611
@kkdm7611 3 ай бұрын
Will you ever test cold steel super edge? please be honest with me :)
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
@@kkdm7611 no
@Hazmatt4700
@Hazmatt4700 3 ай бұрын
Glocks are the best for logging and opening handles.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
exactly!
@aryanaryanaryan
@aryanaryanaryan 3 ай бұрын
Seeing some videos about the Muthos Homura Prominence MH-001 bushcraft knife and Joe x being such an awseome guy... I'm just thinking out loud here :D Danke für deine Arbeit und Grüße aus dem Bayerwald
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
gerne! schau ma mal!
@TheGunsNBlades
@TheGunsNBlades 3 ай бұрын
That shit stick fought back but you showed it who is king👍👍🇺🇸
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
hell yeah! little motha we had were!
@elpequeniogranmatondelainterne
@elpequeniogranmatondelainterne 3 ай бұрын
Tendrian que recubrir la hoja con el material del cabo...
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
vale!
@hayrettinankarali6946
@hayrettinankarali6946 3 ай бұрын
Ik heb slagers messen en uitbeen mes van en aardappels dun schiller goede prijs kwaliteit verhouding en snel scherp ,dat mesje is om te camperen niet een jungelmes
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
claro amigo!
@aaronzierke9920
@aaronzierke9920 3 ай бұрын
Thank you joe-x. I might buy their army knifes but not that one.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
good idea!
@aaronzierke9920
@aaronzierke9920 3 ай бұрын
@@joex was looking at one too. So like I said. Thanks.
@tchristensen8154
@tchristensen8154 3 ай бұрын
Yup, I knew it. Victorishitnox.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i think so too!
@thefishinglor6931
@thefishinglor6931 Ай бұрын
still love mine and I got two lol
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
sorry to hear that!
@muskett4108
@muskett4108 3 ай бұрын
Surprised it did as much as it did, but still rubbish. Where marketing gets way beyond what is polite, as this blade is not fit for purpose as a "survival knife". It might cut a load of salami and cheese for lunch, but really shouldn't be described for anything more. Even a survival expert would struggle to get enough work out of it in a survival situation. The real insult is the price of it. It's this kind of stupidity that will give Victorinox a bad name. Why do it? As an Anglo Swiss this knife annoys me, not because of the knife but its description. A Tereva 120 is a Bushcraft/Survival knife, which even Victorinox could make. Buy a Victorinox Huntsman for half the price, as it is a far better "survival tool". Not much you can't do with one, just takes a lot of time, but at least you might have it on you if SHTF.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i must agree!!! this blade is a marketing gag, with fanboi youtubers who praise it to fk heaven!
@siegfriedwashburn3484
@siegfriedwashburn3484 3 ай бұрын
Huntsman and Spartan are good. Maybe Joe will try Leatherman Sidekick or Rebar, to check it out..But my test was very shirt. To break it wasn't a big deal.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
@@siegfriedwashburn3484 maybe i will do that!
@siegfriedwashburn3484
@siegfriedwashburn3484 3 ай бұрын
@@joex Maybe it will be a good challenge for power lifting with their players and sereitors.
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci 3 ай бұрын
Correct
@JCOwens-zq6fd
@JCOwens-zq6fd 3 ай бұрын
Yeah...once I heard Immlers "it's a precison tool" speech, I pretty much expected it to be a quite delicate bushcraft knife. Someone needs to make a modernized copy of the HJ knives from WW2 Germany. I have thought about doing so myself but I mostly make reproductions from the medieval to Napoleonic era. WW2 & modern stuff aren't really my specialty but it would still make a good knife. lol
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
who would survive in a survival situations, immler or me! i think we know the answer!
@ChrisH.79
@ChrisH.79 3 ай бұрын
Moin. Es ist halt ein leichtes Beimesser und nix für die harte Tour zum biegen, brechen oder Autos erstechen. Joe du musst den Woodpecker in n690 von Messerfieber ordern.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
hello! den woodpecker habe ich schon getestet, video kommt bald!
@ChrisH.79
@ChrisH.79 3 ай бұрын
@@joex Sauber.
@KMV007
@KMV007 3 ай бұрын
Victorinox can still save this knife by changing the geometry (to a scandi or saber grind) and doing a better heat treatment. The steel itself is quite good, so that’s not the issue.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
they should make a "Mora"
@ZILAwelds
@ZILAwelds 3 ай бұрын
This knife is a real champion compared to the tops ….😂😂😂
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
true!
@mistersmith3986
@mistersmith3986 3 ай бұрын
I have a Honesuki knife in my kitchen that would out perform this knife in the outdoors and indoors.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i believe u!
@squick1842
@squick1842 3 ай бұрын
What about the Muela Venecia (bowie), 50-60 euro. Popular and high regarded Spanish knife maker(made in Spain). Looks and feel tough.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i am done with muela for now!"
@eagleone-ff9lz
@eagleone-ff9lz 3 ай бұрын
Which one the strongest one among hundreds knives you butchered it
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
WTG ARES
@hdsamte
@hdsamte 3 ай бұрын
Done any falkniven legends??
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
sure thing1
@Pjotr1982
@Pjotr1982 3 ай бұрын
Overpriced kitchen knife for vegetables.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
surely good in the kitchen!
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci 3 ай бұрын
Correct
@2Snakes
@2Snakes 3 ай бұрын
@@DinoNucci Keep up the good commentary DinoBOY.
@Дмитро-ы8ю
@Дмитро-ы8ю 3 ай бұрын
Yes, in the kitchen it is the best place for this toy. Although, for me Mora is better and cheaper 😂
@theproduceking
@theproduceking 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Rambo
@johann1348
@johann1348 3 ай бұрын
Joe X , your test was too late for me, I have allready bought one. If I have seen your test before I would have saved 70€. Danke für deinen Eisatz und Ehrlichkeit. Der Griff ist wirklich aussergewöhnlich, schau mal mit einer Lupe drauf, da sind ganz klein Victorinox Buchstaben und Logo drauf.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
ok danke, das wusste ich nicht! komme leider immer zu spät!!!!! haha!! lg
@johann1348
@johann1348 3 ай бұрын
@@joexmacht nichts, für Männer ist es ungünstiger wenn sie zu früh kommen , haha
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
du sagst es!
@johann1348
@johann1348 3 ай бұрын
Nebenbei, das ist das erste Victorinox Messer welches mich enttäuscht hat. ich hab, bzw hatte jede Menge , das Älteste ca.50 Jahre, oft verwendet und noch gut in Schuss. Wieso haben die nicht die Klinge vom Hunter Pro genommen (hab ich auch aber mit Alu Griff) Ich.glaub mit dem warst du recht zufrieden.
@axistec
@axistec 3 ай бұрын
You can't deny the brilliance of Victorinox SAKs. I have a Huntsman that my Oma gifted me in the early 90's still going strong. But JoeX exposed this knife which is overpriced and not fit for purpose as a survival knife. I knew the outcome would be this.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i like the folders, this one not so much!
@Herpetile
@Herpetile 3 ай бұрын
The kansbol mora may also be better ?! But I do really like the look of that blade maybe that’s why they got fan boys on it
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i am not so sure about that!
@Herpetile
@Herpetile 3 ай бұрын
@@joex you would know better than I good sir ! Marlboro !
@Laurarium
@Laurarium 3 ай бұрын
Well this is obviously because Victorinox products are of bad quality, not because the knife is thin and the edge is super thin😅
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
this one is a bigger blade, broke more easy than their pocket stuff
@Laurarium
@Laurarium 3 ай бұрын
@@joexWhat I want to say is, the poor performance in your testing does not indicate that victorinox quality is low, since the design is simply not for that type of work. It would be sonsensical to conclude the other way.
@dbratof1
@dbratof1 3 ай бұрын
Yes
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!!!!
@2fast2block
@2fast2block 3 ай бұрын
Another wimpy knife to stay away from. Thanks Joe X!
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@tundra.runner
@tundra.runner 3 ай бұрын
You're tough Joe X, it's a kitchen survival knife, just for cutting ham and spreading butter on your toast. 🤣🤣🤣
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i think so too!
@martkbanjoboy8853
@martkbanjoboy8853 3 ай бұрын
It's for bachelor pad jungle survival? 😅
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci 3 ай бұрын
Correct
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
@@DinoNucci
@siegfriedwashburn3484
@siegfriedwashburn3484 3 ай бұрын
Unbelievable 😢... If I was norm about this model, now its a little problem: Felix Immler, the constructor, is my old good friend. So, I can say, he made it for the bushcraft only. I was sure, it won't be long, but I hope, he will understand it right.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah, i know i said survival, but for me survival and bushcraft is the same thing! this is a kitchen knife, nothing more! i think he can take 1 negative video, there are about 100 Fanboi videos out there!
@siegfriedwashburn3484
@siegfriedwashburn3484 3 ай бұрын
@@joex 😉
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci 3 ай бұрын
Wat?
@Ve-suvius
@Ve-suvius 3 ай бұрын
Felix is a great guy. I've seen many video's of his. He's creative, and knowledgeable.. The knife isn't as impressive. That's true. But Felix, 👌👍.
@siegfriedwashburn3484
@siegfriedwashburn3484 3 ай бұрын
@@Ve-suvius I'll never write no shit about Felix. If I need his help, I know, where I can find him. Basically, I am neutral and peaceful guy, so better to be more patient about things. One week ago my dad punched his wheel, and my Vics Spartan was unable to help. So I took my old good Recon Tanto 😎. I was on Joe's side, when he had some troubles, but now I found my 2 friends are fighting... "Beat it, beat it, no one wants to be defeated! Show them how funky and strong is your fight, it does matter who will win a fight, so BEAT IT!".
@roninshogun4eva
@roninshogun4eva 3 ай бұрын
Should get some temu knives for shts and giggles.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i will look into that bro!
@scdub
@scdub 3 ай бұрын
Knife steel will be MORE DURABLE in hot weather - FYI…
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
ok i thought so too!
@KB-py6jd
@KB-py6jd 3 ай бұрын
Ok someone's gotta ask it. Might as well be me. One blade only for the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE? Small, media or large? And why. I see the Tops knife as your number one but what about for the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE?
@KB-py6jd
@KB-py6jd 3 ай бұрын
Subscribed
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i did some vids about that!
@BladeWalker77
@BladeWalker77 3 ай бұрын
Oh no! the swiss guy will cry a lot, poor man.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i am so sorry!!! no!
@heyarno
@heyarno 3 ай бұрын
If only they would advertise it as picnic and camping knife.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
kitchen!
@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke
@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke 3 ай бұрын
14c28n from any respectable manufacturer does not miss, it seems. But calling this lightweight narrow little thing a survival knife is sure a miss. Bushcraft though, sure.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah! kitchen!!!
@ethicalwarrior4996
@ethicalwarrior4996 3 ай бұрын
WTG V44X next please
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
dont have one!
@МотоМини
@МотоМини 3 ай бұрын
Coolio
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks!
@JT-466
@JT-466 3 ай бұрын
Try a A.G. Russell Sandbox Dagger - DM1 Tough :D
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
send it in bro!
@JT-466
@JT-466 3 ай бұрын
@@joex I don't have it, but they have sick videos on youtube. It bends like crazy with no issue.
@gizmocarr3093
@gizmocarr3093 3 ай бұрын
Made for Victorinox Fanboys, You are paying for the Brand name and multi-function design features. The basic knife design cost more and the accessories double the knife price. It should have a thicker Scandi grind blade at least.👍
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
thanks Giz! i think so too!
@brettt1268
@brettt1268 3 ай бұрын
There’s no way that it’s 45 Celsius in Austria that is hotter then Las Vegas and Phoenix ya right
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
in the sun it is like 50 C
@Ve-suvius
@Ve-suvius 3 ай бұрын
It's boiling temperature in the mask. 😁
@pro_stat1993
@pro_stat1993 3 ай бұрын
JOE X
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!!
@bushforme
@bushforme 3 ай бұрын
"A knife has to know it's limitations ".....
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
true, limitation is joex
@steverose3318
@steverose3318 3 ай бұрын
The knife is used until it's time for the real survival tool. The razor sharp hatchet.
@bushforme
@bushforme 3 ай бұрын
@@steverose3318 that was actually a quote from a Clint Eastwood movie,I just swapped man for knife...
@bushforme
@bushforme 3 ай бұрын
Magnum force..hey..I'm old:)
@jonbeck5945
@jonbeck5945 3 ай бұрын
Super thin blade stock. They call this a survival knife?! My Esee 3 has thicker blade stock than that. Damn Joe. That’s nuts.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
ESEE 3 is so much betta!
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 3 ай бұрын
Glock 78 and Buck 650 Nighthawk (not stupid TOPS version with the stupid holes) is all you need. EDIT: This knife really didn't do well.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
nice blades! this one is for fanbois!
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 3 ай бұрын
@@joex It didn't have to be this way. I liked your message at the end. They had a chance to do it right.... But they failed.
@Orweliannightmare
@Orweliannightmare 3 ай бұрын
Listen carefully, you can hear the knife cry 😂
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci 3 ай бұрын
That's ur m o m
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
i heard it, loved it!
@Zach_D
@Zach_D 3 ай бұрын
Hmm, should I buy that or seven Mora knives? 😂
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
1 Garberg or 5 HDs
@Hi-wy7qo
@Hi-wy7qo 3 ай бұрын
Cold steel 5max
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
never heard of her!
@andreaburroni2213
@andreaburroni2213 3 ай бұрын
didi you ever find any damage on edge after batoning? I think no. That's why is not impressive when blades have no damage on wood. I would be impressive if there are rolls or chips.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
sure!
@Rasenkrieger
@Rasenkrieger 3 ай бұрын
The kitchen knife experts should do a proper survival knife.
@joex
@joex 3 ай бұрын
yeah it will be fantastic in the kitchen!
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